Underwater drones of the US Navy threaten the security of Russian SSBNs

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Perhaps our readers are surprised why we devote so much time to the state of the Russian Navy, its problems and prospects. Unfortunately, not everyone understands that the Impact, if, God forbid, ever happens, will come not in the form of NATO tank wedges, but from the sea. The problem is that the potential adversary has the most powerful navy, but this cannot be said about the Russian Navy today. The quantitative and qualitative lag can play a very cruel “joke” with the “great land power” as a result.

Russia has four fleets and one flotilla, the Caspian. It is no secret that all Russian strategic submarines are divided into two ocean fleets, the Northern and the Pacific. Moreover, most of the SSBNs are located precisely on the North, which is considered safer for them due to the fact that combat duty is carried out under a powerful ice cap, and the difficult acoustic situation makes it difficult for enemy hunter submarines to search for and destroy the submarine. We will return to this point in a little more detail.



Pacific Fleet


As we have told, in the Pacific Ocean, the Russian Navy keeps 4 SSBNs, as well as several SSGNs and diesel-electric submarines, which form the basis of Russian strike power against Japan and the United States. A couple of days ago, during a Pacific Fleet exercise near the Kuril Islands, an American Virginia-class nuclear submarine was discovered. It was reportedly identified by the joint efforts of the Il-38 anti-submarine aircraft and the Russian submarine participating in the maneuvers. "Virginia" ignored the order to emerge and fled, using special equipment to create a false trail.

There is a good chance that the Pentagon purposefully “lit up” a submarine created specifically for hunting Russian submarines in order to divert the attention of the Russian Defense Ministry from the western direction, where all the most combat-ready military units and ships of the Navy are concentrated.

At present, in the Pacific Ocean, to cover SSBNs, we have one relatively combat-ready frigate "Marshal Shaposhnikov", the modernization of which raises certain questions, the outdated BOD "Admiral Panteleev", which actually does not have an air defense system, and the old destroyer of the "Sarych" project, plus in four corvettes of projects 20380/20385 take part in the maneuvers, which have a fairly decent Redut air defense system in terms of performance characteristics, which has a rather modest ammunition load. This is about the possibility of the Pacific Fleet to ensure the safe deployment of SSBNs in the area of ​​​​combat patrols, where numerous anti-submarine aircraft will operate against them, as well as inconspicuous hunter submarines of the Virginia or Sivulf type.

Northern Fleet


The Northern Fleet is objectively the strongest and most combat-ready in the Russian Navy. It is here that the most powerful surface ships and the largest number of SSBNs and SSBNs are located. In the zone of his responsibility is the Arctic. It is no secret that Russian SSBNs are on combat duty in the Arctic Ocean, which gives them a lot of advantages: anti-submarine aviation is simply useless, without a nuclear icebreaker, multi-purpose destroyers and frigates of the US Navy and NATO simply have nothing to do there. Only hunter submarines remain, but their activity is also complicated by the unique hydroacoustic environment created by continuously moving ice floes.

This allows the North Sea submariners to look at the Pacific Ocean with sympathy. But will it always be so - that's the question at the cost of Russia's national security. Is not a fact.

At first, the Americans conduct regular exercises called ICEX (Ice Experiments), during which they work hard to find and destroy (Russian) submarines under the Arctic ice. US Navy nuclear submarines conduct under-ice firing of the latest torpedoes in the most difficult hydroacoustic conditions and terrain.

Secondly, they develop advanced Technology to search for lurking submarines and apparently achieved significant success in this. This needs to be discussed in more detail, since a technological breakthrough by the United States and the NATO bloc in this area can pose a real threat to the strategic security of our country.

"The first squadron of uninhabited underwater vehicles" (UUVRON-1)


Since 2016, the Pentagon began to actively involve scientists specializing in robotics, namely from Bluefin robotics, owned by General Dynamics, to the ICEX exercises. Autonomous uninhabited underwater vehicles (AUVs) were created, the dimensions of which allow them to be fired through the submarine's torpedo tubes. Underwater drones have been conducting research on the sound conductivity of various layers of water under the ice. It is not difficult to guess why the Americans needed this: in this way it is calculated exactly where it is more convenient to hide from the lurking hunters for Russian SSBNs.

But, alas, this was not the end of the matter. In 2016, a new unit was created in the United States, called the First Squadron of Unmanned Underwater Vehicles (Unmanned Undersea Vehicle Squadron 1). What exactly it does can be understood by comparing the available open data.

In 2019, the military division of the Boeing Corporation received an order to build four Echo Voyager unmanned submarines. This is an uninhabited diesel-electric underwater drone weighing 50 tons. Its autonomous cruising range reaches an impressive 6500 miles. According to the developers, Echo Voyager will be able to destroy submarines and ships, conduct electronic warfare. The dimensions of the device allow you to install a fairly powerful sonar system (HAC) in its bow, as well as various weapons in a special compartment. It can be, for example, torpedoes.

Or not torpedoes, but uninhabited autonomous underwater vehicles. AUVs will be able to act as reconnaissance either autonomously or through a remote control hose reel from the Echo Voyager, which will act as a carrier, being tens of kilometers away from the drone. Several of these autonomous submersibles will be able to create an entire reconnaissance network, three-dimensional. Echo Voyager will be able to carry out torpedo strikes on its own or transmit target designation data to controlled "hunters" such as "Virginia" or "Sivulf". Similarly, submarines themselves will be able to remotely control “on a leash” underwater reconnaissance robots, using them, for example, to destroy bottom mines, underwater cables and other targets.

All this is quite realistic and very dangerous, because it makes the Arctic Ocean a very unsafe place for submarines. The question of the stability of the Marine component of strategic nuclear forces is becoming more and more topical.
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  1. -7
    15 February 2022 11: 56
    -Moreover, most of the SSBNs are located precisely on the North, which is considered safer for them due to the fact that combat duty is carried out under a powerful business cap, and the difficult acoustic situation makes it difficult for enemy hunter submarines to search for and destroy the submarine. At this point, we will return in a little more detail.-

    Is the author sure that SSBN crews can carry out basic activities under a "powerful business hat"? Not having adequate quantities of MAPL?

    Only hunter submarines remain, but their activity is also complicated by the unique sonar stop, which is created by continuously moving ice floes.
    This allows the North Sea submariners to look at the Pacific Ocean with sympathy.

    Is the author sure about this?

    At KTOF, the situation with the detection of Japanese submarines is unsatisfactory. And the Japanese crews of the beautiful modern Kawasaki P-1 PLO aircraft are depriving our submariners of the chances to occupy their assigned positions in the areas indicated by the fleet headquarters. The task of Japanese operators is simplified by the meager number of Russian nuclear and diesel boats in the KTOF. One MAPL 971B project is combat ready, and two 877 projects, two 636.3 projects are combat ready.
    The UMKA-2021 exercises showed that KSF submariners are far from using drones, robots, and the latest torpedoes. Even more so in ice conditions. Until 1991, in ice conditions, the KSF never performed combat exercises with torpedo firing by crews of battleboats. And now, even more so. Whether the Russian submariners from the SSBN and MAPL, SSGN crews will be able to successfully carry out torpedo attacks under the ice, with such experience, with such torpedoes, is still a big question.
    1. -2
      15 February 2022 12: 18
      Is the author sure that SSBN crews can carry out basic activities under a "powerful business hat"? Not having adequate quantities of MAPL?

      Is the author sure about this?

      The author tried to answer these questions in detail in his article, which is desirable to read to the end and evaluate as a whole, without pulling quotes out of context.

      At KTOF, the situation with the detection of Japanese submarines is unsatisfactory. And the Japanese crews of the beautiful modern Kawasaki P-1 PLO aircraft are depriving our submariners of the chances to occupy their assigned positions in the areas indicated by the fleet headquarters.

      I'm afraid to ask, do you really need aircraft carriers for air cover? Or is this bullshit unnecessary?
      1. -5
        15 February 2022 14: 04
        We need not only aircraft carriers. They were needed 30 years ago. Now the situation is such that a couple of aircraft carriers, with combat-ready air groups, with very qualified line crews, cannot improve things. Another 10 years of such fluttering, and in the history of KTOF it will be possible to put an end to it. KSF is also close to such a final. MO sat with a very puzzled appearance in front of the Supreme High Command, and even in civilian clothes. This has not happened for a long time. High-ranking military men have a sign - the appearance of the authorities in civilian clothes, for an early resignation.
      2. -4
        15 February 2022 14: 29
        The author tried to answer these questions in detail in his article, which is desirable to read to the end and evaluate as a whole, without pulling quotes out of context.

        ICEX was mentioned lightly. The torpedo training of the North Sea submariners is offended by inattention. Although it is modest, and in severe ice conditions, it boiled down to firing a single SET-72 torpedo (long ago taken out of service) to get a hole. Now there is no such thing.
        On the topic of the post. For 10 years, North Sea residents may not be afraid of the use of foreign drones in the Arctic. Somehow, the reports of news agencies with the verb "will" about the use of all sorts of "Juno" and "Harpsichords" subsided smoothly. Apparently the budget failed.
        1. 0
          15 February 2022 14: 50
          Do you Gunya have access to combat training documents? Where did you get such selfless rubbish on any military topic? Appointed himself as an expert and analyst?
          1. -2
            15 February 2022 17: 11
            You are missing something to refute.
            1. -1
              15 February 2022 17: 24
              I'm your Russophobic rubbish and will not refute. Gurgle, let the bubbles just don’t stain people with your physiological secretions. Herr Gunnerminer.
              1. -2
                15 February 2022 17: 36
                That's the same. Read, be enlightened.
  2. +4
    15 February 2022 15: 03
    As long as generals and senior officials in various branches of the military will steal billions allocated for the modernization of the army, and not their yachts, palaces and family businesses, we will fall behind and fight back with what we have. Just recently, another businessman and swindler in general's uniform was brought to trial. But whether the loot was returned is unknown. A term of 4 years and a fine of 800 for theft of 000 billion caused bewilderment among the vast majority of Russians!
    1. +4
      15 February 2022 15: 09
      And this is not just theft, it is undermining the defense capability of the army and, accordingly, the article should be appropriate, for life with the confiscation of everything acquired, including relatives. And he was convicted as a common swindler. Serdyukov, too, not only did not sit down, but also received a very profitable position. What is this if not sabotage
    2. -2
      15 February 2022 17: 13
      Higher officers don't steal much. They're not supposed to.
  3. -4
    15 February 2022 15: 21
    What was it? What text, what comments. You might think that two operatives of the admiral from the main headquarters of the Navy started a dispute here. And really couch amateurs with the task of cheating our fleet! Looks like it pays well!
    1. +2
      15 February 2022 15: 25
      No one cheats anything, it is directly stated about the existing problems.
    2. -2
      15 February 2022 17: 15
      You are an even bigger operational admiral. And you don't get paid. You are among the friends of the fleet.
  4. 1_2
    -3
    15 February 2022 17: 32
    underwater electric drones of NATO will be hunted by underwater drones of the Russian Federation with a nuclear power plant, they will be on duty for months, destroying expensive US drones, in the end NATO will be forced to stop this circus with horses
    1. -1
      15 February 2022 17: 41
      In 2014, Igor Vilnit (General Director of the Central Design Bureau Rubin, then he was the commercial director) promised that on March 01, 2016, a working sample of VNEU would be ready. Nearly 6 years have passed. There is no working sample of VNEU. Rubin did not succeed with underwater dons either.
      1. 1_2
        -1
        15 February 2022 17: 50
        there is VNEU both on hydrogen fuel cells and with a closed-loop turbine.

        and with a compact nuclear installation (Poseidon), the choice is great - the eyes of the RF Ministry of Defense run wide
        1. -1
          15 February 2022 20: 17
          There are no Russian VNEUs ready for serial production. Projects will last for 50 years. Tell the pre-conscripts of the youngest age about Poseidon. Maybe they will listen without laughing. The MO already has its eyes wide open from the news from the KTOF.
        2. +1
          19 February 2022 16: 48
          Quote: 1_2
          there is VNEU both on hydrogen fuel cells and with a closed-loop turbine.

          1. Under what power?
          2. With what price tag?
          3. How old is OCD (because what it is is an EXPERIMENTAL sample, and from it at least to EXPERIENCED as before Beijing with cancer)?

          Quote: 1_2
          and with a compact nuclear installation (Poseidon), the choice is great - the eyes of the RF Ministry of Defense run wide

          don't bullshit her hurt
          this ONE-TIME DRINK (satisfaction of scientific curiosity at the expense of the state) has nothing to do with the NPA or the real defense of the country (more precisely, it has UNDERVERTING it)
  5. -2
    16 February 2022 18: 10
    Marzhetsky needs to write for avia.pro.
  6. +2
    16 February 2022 18: 13
    And we all sing praises to our Poseidons. We all squeal how something will be built with us. And they don't stand still either. All these publications only distort the real picture of our lag in naval forces. We still need at least 30 years to rebuild the fleet and all its components
  7. 0
    16 February 2022 19: 46
    Quote: Cambustiologist
    And we all sing praises to our Poseidons. We all squeal how we will have something built. And they don't stand still either. All these publications only distort the real picture of our lag in naval forces. We still need at least 30 years to rebuild the fleet and all its components

    Alas, that's exactly what it is. It is better not to be fascinated, so as not to be disappointed ...
  8. 0
    17 February 2022 10: 37
    Ready for the last war again? Today I can’t be shy, that I can’t touch my own waters and the sky, but tomorrow, if single megatons fly in the sky?
  9. +1
    19 February 2022 16: 19
    Quote: Kedrovich
    Marzhetsky needs to write for avia.pro.

    Look at the fee.
  10. you
    0
    20 February 2022 17: 13
    Your author is another imitator of Rezun, juggling numbers, HF numbers, an abbreviation, distracting the attention of an ordinary reader, erasing himself to make him believe in the plausibility of what was written.
    Well, this is nonsense:

    Quote: gunnerminer
    "Since 2016, the Pentagon began to actively involve scientists specializing in robotics, namely, from Bluefin robotics, owned by General Dynamics, to the ICEX exercises. Autonomous uninhabited underwater vehicles (AUVs) have been created, the dimensions of which allow them to be released through submarine torpedo tubes."

    Scientists were attracted in 2016, and already at the moment these AUVs have already been created, how is it?
    Usually, scientists have been working on new generations of technology for decades. All new developments in the field of weapons presented by Russia have deep Soviet roots, it’s just that during the years of their development, there were no technologies and new developments in science for implementation, as they come in, all this is being implemented. I think this is the whole secret of the cheapness of new products.
    Now about who is bluffing. The United States built all its victories in new military developments on a bluff, take at least the Star Wars program, but the leadership of the USSR fell for it. All military victories are also built on deceit and bribery. Let the author name at least one real US war that she won without resorting to bribery and deceit.
    So let's leave the newly appeared weapon, which the author boasted here, since neither he nor we have access to these secrets, and at the moment we, alas, do not know if this is a miracle weapon and who possesses it. That is, we cannot verify what the author wrote, but we all know what successes the United States has achieved in its modern military policy
    1. -3
      21 February 2022 11: 51
      Russian AUVs are of no use to the Russian Navy. Fraud toys. In the best case, torn from foreign samples. The captain of the 3rd rank of the reserve Maxim Klimov wrote enough on this topic.