Europe demands to eradicate "harmful masculinity" in Russia


Recently, the confrontation between our country and the "collective West" has begun to turn before our eyes from a series of bright demarches into a process that exhausts the nerves and soul, promising to be quite long. In addition, let's be frank, its results are completely uncertain today. Contrary to the hopes of individual optimists, the "cavalry raid" on Washington, London and Brussels was not successful. Ahead is an extended period of rather tough “turbulence”, and how it will all turn out, one can only estimate. In this regard, no, no, and voices are heard: “Well, why do we need all this? Is it really impossible to somehow agree amicably, to yield in something, and, in the end, to get along with this very West, somehow adjusting to it?


Firstly, “somehow” and “a little bit” here, sorry, will not work. Russia has crossed a certain line and now it has only two ways - either to the end, to the fulfillment of its requirements (whatever price it has to pay), or ... The second option, as you might guess, is complete and unconditional surrender, even if it is will not be initially framed in such a categorical and absolute form. Sooner or later, our country will have to fully accept all the “principles”, “values” and “narratives” imposed on it, strictly following the course prescribed “from above”. And given the full awareness of our "sworn friends" of their mistakes committed in the 90s of the last century, this will happen sooner rather than later. Today, shivering in fear of new sanctions, the ruble exchange rate fluctuations caused by them, or other similar problems, many simply do not think about what kind of exchange rate it will be. And it would be worth it.

World "rainbow" dictatorship


This article will not talk about the truly unprecedented robbery that awaits Russia if it begins to lose ground in the current fight. Although, in the light of the energy crisis that has now unfolded in the world (which, as experts predict, has every chance of lasting for years), there are plenty of applicants for the natural wealth of our Motherland. However, as already mentioned, we will not talk about this, but about things that are not as material as oil and gas reserves, but, perhaps, even more global. Sometimes some of our compatriots, coming across in the media on reflections that the "collective West" from a certain point in its development "turned the wrong way" and is now rushing at full speed towards some completely new reality, which is utterly similar to the most "black » dystopian science fiction writers, considers all this an exaggeration. "Anti-Western propaganda", "intensification" and "exaggeration". Alas, this is by no means the case.

In order to prove this statement, let me introduce you to some of the provisions of Resolution 15425 adopted by the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE). This document was approved (obviously as an evil mockery) exactly on Catholic Christmas - December 25, 2021. Its title is just as false and hypocritical as the vast majority of PACE's "creations": "On the fight against the growing hatred of LGBT people in Europe." Listening to this, one can really believe that the unfortunate "blue", "pink" and the devil knows what else there are mercilessly persecuted and exterminated in the Old World. At the stake, as in the days of the Holy Inquisition, they burn and create similar horrors.

But you and I know that nothing of the kind happens at all. Whatever the day, then news a news feed about all the new "parades", "prides", "coming outs" and other similar obscenities. All kinds of "non-traditional" now do not languish in gloomy prisons and do not stay in deep underground, but very often sit in parliaments, hold positions in governments and pass laws. It is clear what kind. So why the hell do they still?! According to figures from PACE, the "rainbow" ideology, of course, is advancing in Europe by leaps and bounds, but with all this, for some reason, it "meets fierce opposition" in some places, including "at the state level." About the state, let's clarify, regarding Russia, Turkey, Poland and Hungary.

Let's take a closer look at the latter. There "non-traditional" downright terribly spread rot. Their "marriages" are given the official status of "civil unions". Unnatural connections are not prosecuted by law in any way, and it is allowed to enter into them from the age of 14! Moreover, discrimination based on “orientation” and other gender principles is strictly prohibited in all areas. And what's wrong? The wicked Budapest decided to ban the propaganda of perversions and gender reassignment for minors! Moreover, this cannot be done both in the process of school “sex education”, from which all kinds of “rainbow” NGOs were excommunicated, and through the media and other advertising media. Hungarian law protects the sex of a child at birth and protects him from the imposition of flashy LGBT propaganda. And this, from the point of view of PACE, is a grave, unforgivable crime against "advanced ideas and European values", for which the "wrong" leadership of the country should be punished with all severity. By the way, exactly the same accusations are being leveled against Russia, though with a bunch of other "in the appendage".

"Destroy harmful masculinity..."


It should be clearly understood that today the war for "LGBT values", even if they are thrice wrong, is not at all at the level of the abolition of some individual prohibitions, norms or against preventing the "self-expression" of a particular bunch of perverts. No, the "rainbow" evil spirits go on a global offensive on all fronts. And then it's either us or them. Let me quote verbatim paragraph 18 of the Resolution we are considering:

A paradigm shift in social and cultural understanding of gender equality, mischievous masculinity, and the rights and freedoms of LGBTI people is still needed in many societies to achieve true equality for LGBTI people.

"Harmful masculinity" - how do you like it? However, femininity, motherhood and similar "survivals" these creatures intend to throw out "to the dustbin of history" in the same way as the normal orientation of males. "Shift in public consciousness" - that's what they want! Acceptance by humanity of a new model of the world, in which there will be no men, no women, no mothers, no fathers, no sons, no daughters - only asexual (or all-sex?) biomass. Do you want such a future? And it's coming. Its adherents are by no means prophets and martyrs - rather, they act in the best traditions of totalitarian sects and extremist movements. "Who does not agree - to the nail!" And these are not empty words. In paragraph 14.2 of the Resolution, its authors demand that “motives related to sexual and gender orientation, identity and self-expression” become a serious aggravating motive for considering any, even the most ordinary ordinary crimes. The policeman will catch the thief, and he: “Uncle, don’t touch me, I’m“ blue ”! And he will let go as a pretty one, because it will be more expensive to get involved. And then the killer will be released in the same way ...

Perhaps the most brilliant example of “rainbow justice” today can be considered a lawsuit initiated after a Finnish lady posted on her Twitter post with a quote from the letter of the Apostle Paul “To the Romans”, which sharply condemned perverts. The most piquant thing is that the lady is Pärvi Räsänen, the former head of the country's interior ministry. She cited a literal quotation from Scripture on social networks, in the course of a discussion on a purely church topic. It would seem - exclusively private sphere. But no - she was quickly “sewn on” no less than “discrimination and humiliation”, the police that once obeyed her opened a case, and now Ryasyanen is waiting for a trial. It will be fun if they really put them behind bars. From this to the bonfires from the Bibles (and from the Koran too - he does not approve of the "rainbow" abomination at all) in the main squares of Europe is no longer a step, but half a step. Moreover, the authors of the Resolution directly declare:

Religious leaders are perhaps the main instigators of hatred against LGBT people and their detractors.

But the leaders only broadcast to the public the tenets of the faith they profess!

We are not talking about those who deviate from the completely unambiguous things set forth in Scripture in this matter - these are clergymen with reduced social responsibility. True believers and, even more so, priests are unshakable here. It is with them that PACE demands to fight, and in the most merciless and uncompromising way - so that "no hatred is sown." Fascism, you know, it's not necessarily brown. He is now multicolored. And he comes.

In its paragraph 12.3. The PACE resolution requires:

All states that have laws against LGBT propaganda should repeal them immediately, ensuring full access to objective information about any form of gender orientation, identity and self-expression for all persons without exception. And, first of all, for minors.

Everything vile is for children! More perversions for them - good and different! This is not funny, gentlemen. This is scary. Clause 14.5. all the same Resolution requires organizing special training for police officers, prosecutors and judges, so that in any situation they have no alternative to be on the “LGBT side”. “Rainbow families” (this vile term is not my invention, but, again, a direct quote from the document), should enjoy special care and support from the state. It, according to PACE, is obliged to protect and protect not the disabled, veterans, large families, but all sorts of perverts, making every effort to ensure that their ranks grow, expand and multiply with each new day.

However, the matter is not limited to this. All "progressive countries" without exception must turn the "promotion of LGBT values" and perversion in all its forms into a state ideology. The resolution prescribes for this “the creation of national strategies, the development of appropriate action plans”, and also requires that “the interests of the LGBT community be at the forefront in all key legislative, political and other measures." Does this sound like "protection from hatred and oppression" in any way? In my opinion, no. Rather, we have before us a step-by-step plan to establish a global and total "rainbow" dictatorship - cruel and uncompromising. Alas, in the West it is already being implemented at an accelerated pace. Russia definitely does not need such a “future”. Demanding today to leave our country alone and let it choose its own path, its own values ​​and priorities, we are fighting back, among other things, from these “rosy” prospects.
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  1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 11 February 2022 10: 05
    -25
    Friends in Switzerland have also not heard of any "to eradicate" harmful masculinity ".
    Perhaps all this struggle for / against is only in the articles of the specialized media.

    Has anyone seen live a promoted Chechen "Lgbt activist? That's the same, no one ever ....
    1. Pandiurin Offline Pandiurin
      Pandiurin (Pandiurin) 11 February 2022 10: 20
      +11
      Quote: Sergey Latyshev
      Friends in Switzerland have also not heard of any "to eradicate" harmful masculinity ".
      Perhaps all this struggle for / against is only in the articles of the specialized media.

      Has anyone seen live a promoted Chechen "Lgbt activist? The same thing, no one ever ....

      Everything is right, first of all, this is achieved at key points in the formation of public opinion and political course. First, they build politicians, the media, draw up a legislative framework, then the security forces, the army and the police, only then they go to the "apartments". Schools and kindergartens are the same propaganda at the initial stage, massively harsh punishment (on the LGBT topic) with deprivation of parental rights will begin later.
    2. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 11 February 2022 10: 24
      +11
      In a Madrid park, I noticed that a lot of male couples are walking with a child, a boy.
      Maybe it's a mod or something.
      But I think it's gay men in a legal union who are ditching their legally adopted child.
      1. Orthodox Offline Orthodox
        Orthodox (Orthodox) 11 February 2022 11: 22
        +25
        Save, Lord, all helpless children from violence! And be damned forever and ever all pedophile male couples!!!
        1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 February 2022 12: 15
          -19
          And be damned forever and ever all pedophile male couples!!!

          I do not want to act here as an LGBT human rights activist smile But basic education is required.
          To be fair, not all gays are pedophiles. To put it mildly. These are completely different phenomena, intersecting in rare cases.
          1. Cherry Offline Cherry
            Cherry (Kuzmina Tatyana) 11 February 2022 12: 49
            +4
            Feel better right away!
            1. Monster_Fat Offline Monster_Fat
              Monster_Fat (What's the difference) 11 February 2022 13: 17
              -21
              Hmm, someone gets in the way of gays - yes, this is a problem, so a problem, horror, not a problem ... most likely simply, someone has a clear fad about this. wink Naturally, LGBT propaganda is much worse than calls to cut off the heads of those who disagree. yes
              1. Dear sofa expert. 11 February 2022 14: 11
                +15
                Hmm, someone gets in the way of gays - yes, this is a problem, so a problem, horror, not a problem ...

                Yes, I would not belittle this problem so much.
                Because this “small heart-rending super-aggressive minority” is already beginning to infringe on the rights of all other (normal, biologically destined) people.

                I don't remember where (on the Internet), but I read:

                ..only those who feel oppressed have in an advanced society the right to vote, the right to demand and the power to coerce others.

                arguing, screaming in pain and demanding concessions is the only way for the oppressed to exist at all. For as soon as they stop arguing, and shouting, and demanding, they will immediately cease to be oppressed and, consequently, cease to be masters of the situation.

                The source is the Internet.

                A sort of caste of "privileged oppressed" who do not even want to reckon with the fact that their rights must also end where the rights of others begin.
            2. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
              Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 February 2022 13: 45
              -11
              This is good. Ignorance breeds wrong behavior.
          2. Dear sofa expert. 11 February 2022 13: 01
            +6
            I still think they overlap.

            In normal couples with children, incest is excluded, this is a taboo at the level of instinct. There is no aversion to incest in a same-sex couple..

            https://ria.ru/amp/20190624/1555796886.html

            1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
              Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 February 2022 13: 48
              -15
              Once again: I do not advocate the rights of gays to adoption or adoption, this does not concern me at all. And I do not presume to judge what it will be like for children in such families.
              But I consider it unacceptable to label all gays with the same brush as pedophiles, because this is not true.
              1. Dear sofa expert. 11 February 2022 13: 58
                +2
                because this is not true.

                Do you have any statistical data, facts that would confirm the inconsistency with reality, what would you say?

                And the eminent biologist most likely has them, since he writes scientific papers on this topic.

                So which of you two do you want to believe?

                PS By the way, I don’t understand why you downvoted me?) For the fact that I gave a link to the article?
                1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
                  Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 February 2022 14: 04
                  -15
                  Do you have any statistical data, facts that would confirm the inconsistency with reality, what would you say?

                  PS By the way, I don’t understand why you downvoted me?) For the fact that I gave a link to the article?

                  I see no point in continuing the discussion on this issue. hi
                  Everything I wanted to say, I said.
                  1. Dear sofa expert. 11 February 2022 14: 27
                    +4
                    I see no point in continuing the discussion on this issue.

                    Oh yes, for God's sake! You gave me the opportunity to express my opinion. And it is important for me that it would be heard here. Thank you for this. The rest is all lyrics

                    Oh, by the way .. maybe it will be interesting to someone (well, for general development):

                    A court in Germany acquitted Professor Ulrich Kutschera, who was tried for statements about a direct connection between "those" and "those"
                    https://ifamnews.com/ru/sud-v-germanii-opravdal-professora-ulriha-kucheru-sudimogo-za-vyskazyvaniia-o-neposredstvennoi-sviazi-mezhdu-gomoseksualizmom-i-pedofiliei/amp
                    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
                      Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 February 2022 14: 32
                      -12
                      Oh yes, for God's sake! You gave me the opportunity to express my opinion. And it is important for me that it would be heard here. Thank you for this. The rest is all lyrics

                      The normal approach. hi The topic of adoption of children by LGBT people is complex and controversial. The article is not mine at all. I just saw a wild, in my opinion, comment and considered it necessary to comment. I do not like it when someone is indiscriminately recorded in bulk somewhere.
                      Calling a person a pedophile for no reason is a terrible insult, in my opinion.
              2. Ugr Offline Ugr
                Ugr 12 February 2022 01: 11
                +7
                Definitely, among gays, the son will become gay, just like with lesbians, the girl will become a lesbian ...
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            2. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
              Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 February 2022 14: 22
              -12
              I still think they overlap.

              They must intersect somewhere. But no German (British) scientist with his own opinion is sufficient authority to automatically record millions of people as pedophiles.
              1. Dear sofa expert. 11 February 2022 14: 33
                +7
                But no German (British) scientist with his own opinion is sufficient authority to automatically record millions of people as pedophiles.

                If a world-famous scientist, a specialist in this particular direction, you have no authority, then WHO ???
                Well, let's start trusting Wikipedia then.
                1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
                  Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 February 2022 14: 36
                  -10
                  There will always be another scientist for one scientist. hi
                  There are such words in your article by a prominent scientist that in a hetero family in.. cest is excluded. Oh really?
                  In "Game of Thrones" I saw something completely different. smile
                  Some very controversial thesis, don't you think?

                  Ulrich Kuchera is far from being an ordinary teacher at a provincial university, but a scientist of international renown. Author of about 300 scientific articles and 13 books, he, in his own words, "knows how science works." Specialist in plant physiology and evolutionary biologyKuchera made many important discoveries in his field. He received a special prize from the American pharmaceutical company Pfizer for his doctoral dissertation.

                  But is he an expert, what does it take to make such judgments?

                  The author of the "New Chronology" Fomenko is also a world-famous scientist, an academician. But this does not prevent him from bearing any heresy.
                  1. Dear sofa expert. 11 February 2022 16: 09
                    +5
                    But is he an expert, what does it take to make such judgments?

                    read your:

                    …Specialist in Plant Physiology and Evolutionary Biology

                    Focusing on “letter combinations”: evolutionary biology.

                    Evolutionary biology is a branch of biology that studies the origin of species from common ancestors, heredity and variability of their characters, reproduction and diversity of forms in the course of evolutionary development.
                    Wiki ..

                    We focus on the word "reproduction".

                    How would it intersect a little with the "productivity" of same-sex partnerships, or not?)
                    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
                      Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 February 2022 16: 42
                      -6
                      How would it intersect a little with the "productivity" of same-sex partnerships, or not?)

                      Very little overlap. hi
                      Moreover, it was about pe..philia and the upbringing of children by potential ge..mi, and not about the birth of children ge..v from ge..v. This is a question at the intersection of psychology, psychiatry and s...xology.
              2. Dear sofa expert. 11 February 2022 14: 55
                +3
                But no German (British) scientist with his own opinion is sufficient authority to automatically record millions of people as pedophiles.

                By the way, I re-read it again and found where your dissonance arose.

                The scientist did not claim that all "millions of these" are "those". He substantiated the "intersections" with inverse statistics, namely: in 95% of cases of ****philia, there was homo*ism.
                So don't let your "millions" take offense to heart.)
                1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
                  Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 February 2022 14: 58
                  -8
                  So don't let your "millions" take offense to heart.)

                  These are not my millions. As a basic lawyer, I stand for justice.

                  By the way, I re-read it again and found where your dissonance arose.

                  I don't have any dissonance. I generally answered the Orthodox. It was you who threw in this article by this plant biologist, interested in LGBT topics, and began to link to it
          3. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 11 February 2022 13: 33
            +6
            Will a boy raised in such a "family" be happy?
            1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
              Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 February 2022 14: 17
              -9
              Damn, I don’t want to go deeper into this topic, but I have to. A counter question: will a boy brought up without any family at all in an orphanage be happy, where older comrades, or even not only them, can scoff at him?
              Have you seen the movie Sleepers? One of my ex-colleagues once conducted a check on one juvenile colony. According to him, exactly the same thing happened there. From the people in charge.
              Of course, a correctional institution and an orphanage are not the same thing, but still ...
              P.S. I am not saying this in defense of LGBT adoption rights, but in relation to the question of where the unfortunate single child can be happier.
              1. Valera75 Offline Valera75
                Valera75 (Valery) 11 February 2022 15: 02
                +10
                A counter question: will a boy brought up without any family at all in an orphanage be happy, where older comrades, or even not only them, can scoff at him?

                that gays that pedophiles and those and other sick people, and therefore both of them are strictly forbidden to adopt (adopt) and raise children.
                1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
                  Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 February 2022 15: 04
                  -7
                  Well, it seems to be forbidden in Russia. This is the theme of the West. So why should we worry?
              2. Dima Offline Dima
                Dima (Dmitriy) 12 February 2022 16: 31
                +1
                Let me put in my 5 cents. As a person who has gone through the adoption procedure, I can confidently state that in recent years in Russia it is difficult to find relatively healthy physically and mentally children suitable for adoption. And this goes for any couple. So, no matter how strange it may seem, in Russia, in large cities, a whole line of people who want to take children for adoption, or permanent guardianship, and flying after them from St. Petersburg to Krasnoyarsk, or Yakutsk, is quite a common thing.
                For some reason, many are sure that since the child is in an orphanage, then he can be adopted, unfortunately everything is not so simple. We cannot adopt one of the brothers / sisters, you need to take everyone at once, and this can be three or five people, since this can cause moral trauma to the child, or his brothers / sisters. Plus, there are frequent cases of temporary deprivation of parental rights while the mother / father is sitting or drinking. Leave the zone, take the child back. So it turns out that many healthy children live for years in "children's homes".
        2. consultant Offline consultant
          consultant (Vladimir) 11 February 2022 20: 11
          +4
          Quote: Orthodox
          ...And be damned forever and ever all pedophilic male couples!!!

          and women too! they are no better!
      2. Cherry Offline Cherry
        Cherry (Kuzmina Tatyana) 11 February 2022 12: 58
        +3
        I woke up at night and couldn’t sleep. I turned on the TV - it was turned off on the TLC channel and turned on on it. And I see on the screen - a man is giving birth. The rest of the sleep has gone. ... dear!" I thought that I was still sleeping and having a nightmare. But no! An aunt not converted into an uncle really gives birth, and a man converted into an aunt encourages. Then the aunt not converted into an uncle breastfed the child. Now I definitely saw everything! I saw it on our TV!
    3. Cherry Offline Cherry
      Cherry (Kuzmina Tatyana) 11 February 2022 13: 01
      +3
      Do you remember how mothers in Georgia dispersed their blue sons from the parade? How were they cursed? If you were born in Chechnya and realized that you are slightly blue, then it is better to leave immediately.
  2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 11 February 2022 12: 45
    0
    The charms of Western culture, so colorfully painted by the author, can only threaten the West itself, which will become the winner, finally solving the Russian question.
    We, as the vanquished, are threatened not by Bavarian beer, but by something completely different.
    We'll have to remember the concentration camps, which were designed to destroy unnecessary peoples. After all, the problem of overpopulation of the planet needs to be solved somehow.
    Yes, and the Russian question the West will have to decide already finally. So that he doesn't get up again.
    The technology of this business in civilized Germany was worked out to perfection in the last century. In our time, it will be added to receive benefits from disassembling people for organs for transplantation. Western morality, as always, obligingly bends.
    For those who doubt, I advise you to review films about concentration camps in Germany.
    For those who consider the current West incapable of this, I advise you to once again watch the wonderful feature film "Dogville" in 2003 directed by Lars von Trier. This is a self-portrait of the West
    1. Ugr Offline Ugr
      Ugr 12 February 2022 01: 16
      0
      The West will not have time to attack Russia, they will be swallowed up by the Arabs within 30 years
  3. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 11 February 2022 13: 18
    0
    In its paragraph 12.3. The PACE resolution requires:

    And why is the Russian Federation still in PACE if it does not share its views?
    1. Cherry Offline Cherry
      Cherry (Kuzmina Tatyana) 11 February 2022 15: 48
      +2
      To be in the know. So to say, to follow the enemy from the inside is quite legal.
  4. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 11 February 2022 13: 26
    +5
    Quote: Monster_Fat
    Naturally, LGBT propaganda is much worse than calls to cut off the heads of those who disagree.

    Protecting LGBT people on the basis that there are even worse things is questionable.
    Enemies explain their policy this way - they say gays are better than thugs.
    Only this is all pida.kaya lie. The choice does not consist of two options - between LGBT and cutting off heads.
    It is quite possible to choose family values, mutual assistance, friendship, etc.
  5. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 11 February 2022 14: 01
    +6
    Quote: Marzhetsky
    But I consider it unacceptable to label all gays with the same brush as pedophiles, because this is not true.

    And who is recording? The conditions for a new society are simply being created.
    It's like declaring drugs neutral substances. Not everyone becomes a drug addict, right?
    Tolerance. Why restrict people's freedom of expression? So?
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 February 2022 14: 07
      -5
      And who is recording?

      Tov. Orthodox wrote. Here is the quote:

      And be damned forever and ever all pedophile male couples!!!

      The conditions for a new society are simply being created.
      It's like declaring drugs neutral substances. Not everyone becomes a drug addict, right?

      This new society is being built in the West. This is their choice. After all, no one forces you to suck with men, right?

      Tolerance. Why restrict people's freedom of expression? So?

      Russian children are no longer sent there. What are you so worried about? They rot and fall apart faster. Do better things in your country.
      Personally, I'm more worried when people are kidnapped, undressed in front of the camera and mocked. And all this goes unpunished. hi
  6. Joker62 Offline Joker62
    Joker62 (Ivan) 11 February 2022 14: 05
    +3
    These LGBT people should be impaled immediately! So that it was disrespectful to others!
    They have become completely obnoxious, and Russia is already pointing out its lack of prosperity as "masculinity"!
  7. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 11 February 2022 14: 46
    +4
    Quote: Marzhetsky
    A counter question: will a boy brought up without any family at all in an orphanage be happy, where older comrades, or even not only them, can scoff at him?

    What about only two options? An orphanage, without a family or a gay family?
    It seems that many normal families want to adopt children. Is not it? Yes, and children's homes need to be dealt with more carefully, and not look for a way out by non-standard means.
    Well, or at least it will be limited to allowing adoption / adoption only of the opposite sex. Why not an option?
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 February 2022 15: 08
      -8
      What about only two options? An orphanage, without a family or a gay family?
      It seems that many normal families want to adopt children. Is not it?

      Am I arguing? Let hetero couples adopt. My original comment was not about this topic at all.

      Yes, and children's homes need to be dealt with more carefully, and not look for a way out by non-standard means.

      And with all sorts of closed institutions, you need to carefully understand and monitor what happens there regularly.
  8. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 11 February 2022 14: 51
    +1
    Quote: Marzhetsky
    Tov. Orthodox wrote. Here is the quote:
    And be damned forever and ever all pedophile male couples!!!

    I will sign it.
    But just let male couples live in peace, if by agreement.
    Pedophiles, sorry, I don’t like much, even if they are individuals, even if they live in pairs.

    However, if the Orthodox considers all gays to be pedophiles, then he is wrong. Here I agree with you.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 February 2022 15: 09
      -5
      However, if the Orthodox considers all gays to be pedophiles, then he is wrong. Here I agree with you.

      It was precisely to this that I made a remark initially, which I planned to limit myself to.
  9. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 11 February 2022 14: 57
    +2
    Quote: Marzhetsky
    This new society is being built in the West. This is their choice.

    Not certainly in that way. Russia is being pressured to ensure that our gay laws comply with their norms. In any case, our media constantly write about it. Lie, probably?))))
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 February 2022 15: 10
      -5
      It seems that our national legislation is now higher than international. So who and what can demand from Russia then?
      1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 11 February 2022 15: 20
        +2
        If there were no sanctions on this matter, then there certainly will be.
        1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 February 2022 15: 24
          -4
          For some reason, we are sometimes afraid of sanctions, sometimes we are not afraid. I would like some consistency.
          1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 11 February 2022 15: 29
            +3
            Personally, I am not afraid of sanctions. I just feel bad that someone dares to impose sanctions, and even on such occasions that I want to spit in their faces.
            1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
              Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 February 2022 15: 30
              -1
              I will answer this: pederasts. Well you got it smile
  10. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 11 February 2022 15: 00
    +2
    Quote: Marzhetsky
    Personally, I'm more worried when people are kidnapped, undressed in front of the camera and mocked. And all this goes unpunished.

    So we, maybe, will vote what worries us the most. And everything else will be ignored.
    Meanwhile, there are more than two or three articles in the UG. Well, you probably know about it for sure?
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 February 2022 15: 10
      -2
      To be honest, I did not quite understand what you wanted to say. hi
      1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 11 February 2022 15: 16
        +2
        You contrasted kidnapping, stripping and bullying with crimes against children.
        The opposition is false.
        All crime must be stopped. Regardless of what bothers someone more or less.
        1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 February 2022 15: 18
          -2
          I didn't oppose anything. I tried to explain with a concrete example that the problems of Russian reality are closer to us than the imaginary problems of Spanish children. And he advised me to pay attention to our internal problems.
  11. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 11 February 2022 15: 06
    +3
    Quote: Marzhetsky
    Russian children are no longer sent there.

    I'll tell you a wild thing. I feel sorry for the Spanish children. And even Moroccan.
    However, all the children of male couples were of European appearance. Maybe gays are racists winked
  12. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 February 2022 15: 16
    -2
    Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
    I'll tell you a wild thing. I feel sorry for the Spanish children. And even Moroccan.
    However, all the children of male couples were of European appearance. Maybe gays are racists

    Indians don't care about problems, but do Spanish children care? smile This is me, being ironic.
    You have a choice: stop thinking about it, because nothing depends on you, or start fighting for the rights of children adopted by LGBT people in Europe. I don't know how to fight.
    Maybe you will collect an online petition and send a collective appeal to the European authorities, expressing your position. This is my free legal advice. hi
  13. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 11 February 2022 15: 23
    +1
    Quote: Marzhetsky
    Indians don't care about problems, but do Spanish children care?

    Far-fetched, in my opinion, the problems of the Indians are not interested.
    But I saw the adopted (probably) children with my own eyes.
    And that was 6-7 years ago. Now they have grown up.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 February 2022 15: 25
      -2
      Well, I've told you everything I could about that. hi I hope these guys are doing well now.
  14. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 11 February 2022 15: 26
    +1
    Quote: Marzhetsky
    You have a choice: stop thinking about it, because nothing depends on you, or start fighting for the rights of children adopted by LGBT people in Europe.

    You are essentially right.
    But when reading / commenting, either we get excited beyond measure, or we let off steam.
    I let off steam.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 February 2022 15: 31
      -5
      And here I am wasting my time and mental energy, which could go in a useful direction. Half a day of work down the drain ...
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  16. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 11 February 2022 15: 36
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    Quote: Marzhetsky
    And here I am wasting my time and mental energy, which could go in a useful direction.

    Why don't you need feedback? Personally, I get 60% of the benefits by reading comments.
    No offense will be said to you.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 February 2022 16: 10
      +1
      So the article is not mine. I came here by accident.
      I just don't like injustice, so I couldn't keep silent.
      Personally, I had a chance to really deal with a pedophile, put him in jail. One gypsy showed "tricks" to the boys at the entrance. Bad person. Then he tried to look like a psycho so that they would take him to the foolhouse.
      In general, I didn’t like that all gays were treated like this with the same brush. hi
      1. Yuri Palaznik Offline Yuri Palaznik
        Yuri Palaznik (Yuri Palaznik) 12 February 2022 04: 05
        +2
        And in vain they will not calm down until they establish a dictatorship of free asses. And the anus has only one function. Whoever is just beginning to allow an alternative in his mind has already begun to turn his mind.
  17. it is necessary to return the article for sodomy, which was under Stalin. It seems that they gave a common fund for 3 years
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  19. Yuri Palaznik Offline Yuri Palaznik
    Yuri Palaznik (Yuri Palaznik) 12 February 2022 04: 01
    +3
    In the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, it is imperative to return the article for sodomy. The Bible calls gays people of a corrupt mind. This is a mental injury. You can't allow LGBT people to do anything. If you give your finger, they will bite off your hand. Sodom and Gomorrah were burned with fire for the sin of sodomy and other perversions. Of rotation. It also speaks of turning the mind. So, the West fell into the same sin. Who knows... The fire once already burned up the debauchery in Sodom. The West needs to think.
  20. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
    Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 12 February 2022 12: 41
    -3
    How Russians are concerned about the topic of same-sex relationships, this is something. How many comments dashed off.
    Anecdote in the topic:

    - How do you feel about supporters of same-sex relationships?
    - I do not belong to them.

    PS Same-sex families (female) raising children are quite common in Russia and it is only a matter of time before this de facto becomes de jure.
  21. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 13 February 2022 03: 55
    +3
    Quote: Oleg Rambover
    PS Same-sex families (female) raising children are quite common in Russia

    I do not know. I live in the regional center, but have never come across. So what about fairly common in Russia exactly a lie. Maybe there are such families in Moscow. But about Russia - just a lie.
    1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 14 February 2022 06: 41
      -3
      https://www.gazeta.ru/social/2014/03/12/5947085.shtml
      They are not only in Moscow. No one knows the statistics, but they are.
    2. Fourth Offline Fourth
      Fourth (Fourth) 14 February 2022 10: 28
      0
      Political scientist Ekaterina Shulman believes that same-sex marriages are "the same traditional family." She stated this on the air of the author's program "Status" on Ekho Moskvy.

      In a legal sense, same-sex unions are not a family in our legislation. In the public sense, marriage is legalized relationship between a man and a woman recognized society.

      What Oleg Rambover said family is not. He assumes that our society recognizes such families. But it's not. Oleg is deceiving you.
  22. Nicolas Offline Nicolas
    Nicolas (Nicolas) 13 February 2022 11: 17
    0
    In recent years, we have seen the birth of a new civilization. Conventionally, it can be called transgender-pederastic, the conductor of which is the collective West. Our task is to resist its spread to our territory.
  23. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 13 February 2022 12: 37
    +2
    Quote: Nicolas
    we see the birth of a new civilization.

    Rather, the decay of the old. Nothing is new under the sun. The Roman Empire similarly died.
    1. Ksv Offline Ksv
      Ksv (Sergei) 13 February 2022 19: 21
      0
      Quite right! The "enlightened" pederasts could not fight off the "stupid" barbarians. What exactly we are now seeing in Europe! How interesting is the Europeans enough?
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