France and Germany do not want to support the US and go against Russia

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The latest rounds of high-level diplomatic talks, held this week in Moscow and Washington, have demonstrated that the positions of France and Germany towards Russia are significantly different from the negative agenda that the United States is pushing. At the same time, official Paris and Berlin not only refuse to follow in the footsteps of Washington's anti-Russian hysteria, but on the contrary, they are doing everything to form their own agenda.

Macron tries on a new role


French President Emmanuel Macron is obviously claiming the role of "dove of peace" in relations between the West and the Russian Federation. It was he who was the first of the GXNUMX countries to come to Russia amid the escalation of the situation around Ukraine. However, in the case of Macron, state foreign policy interests ideally coincided with personal domestic political interests. In just two months, the next presidential election will be held in France, and Macron will have to work very hard to become the first French leader since Jacques Chirac to be re-elected for a second term. And the image of "Makron" France in the geopolitical arena, no doubt, plays one of the primary roles in this.



It is obvious that the status of an American satellite, which the Baltic republics and Poland wear with self-forgetfulness and honor, is simply unacceptable for France, one of the leading European powers. So it turns out that it was Macron who first decided to demonstrate his independence to Washington and the French voters. In France, unlike all major countries bordering it, there is not a single American military base. Well, that is, literally - in the UK, Germany, Spain, Italy and Belgium there are US military facilities, but for some reason they are not observed on the territory of the Fifth Republic. It is likely that the point here is the legendary French leader Charles de Gaulle, who withdrew his country from the military structure of NATO in 1966. During the Second World War, De Gaulle led the French resistance, so he knew firsthand how difficult it was to drive the invaders from their territory. And, apparently, he had no desire to replace the expelled fascists with the Americans who came in large numbers. Of course, times are changing, and under Nicolas Sarkozy, France nevertheless returned to NATO. However, Sarkozy's recent conviction for corruption has certainly cast a shadow over that decision. As a result, in today's France, the opinion is becoming increasingly popular that the country needs to independently determine its external policieswithout regard to Washington.

The Europeans, thanks especially to the President of the Republic, have an independent position on Ukraine and different interests from the Americans. And it needs to be made clear to our American allies that we have different interests in this crisis. Our goal is neither threats nor confrontation, but dialogue and de-escalation

- said on February 8 the minister economics and Finance of France Bruno Le Maire

In addition, the topic of relations with Russia is currently extremely popular on the French political agenda, which is especially evident during the presidential race. Thus, the candidate for the country's highest post from the Republican Party, Valerie Pekress, on February 6, during a television interview on air France 2, spoke in Russian, calling on the people of Russia "to build peace in Europe together." In turn, the presidential candidate from the National Rally party, Marine Le Pen, on February 7, declared the fallacy of waging a cold war against Russian President Vladimir Putin. The most textbook is the position of another candidate for the highest French post - Eric Zemmour:

I just think that we should be friends with Russia. We must stop being an instrument of American manipulation... I mean, America is wasting its time turning European countries against Russia.

- he stressed.

"Like it, don't like it - be patient, my beauty"


Speaking about the position of France, one cannot fail to note how much it resonates with the position of the Kiev authorities, who, on the one hand, are striving for Europe, and on the other, stubbornly want to go against the Russian Federation. Thus, during Macron's visit to Moscow, Russian President Vladimir Putin drew attention to the words of Zelensky, who "recently stated that he did not like a single point from (...) the Minsk agreements." The Russian leader stressed that "Minsk-2" must be implemented, since there are no other alternatives to these agreements, citing the expression "I like it, I don't like it - be patient, my beauty."

As it turns out, "Beauty" not only does not like to fulfill her obligations, "she" also tries to dictate her own terms to other countries, which is perceived by them accordingly

President Zelensky canceled his meeting with German Foreign Minister Annalena Burbock because she refused to say that Germany would give up the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline if Russia invaded, and because Germany refused to provide Kiev with any military help

- said on February 7, the host of the American television channel CNN Jake Tapper.

He also noted that officially the cancellation of the meeting was explained by changes in the schedule, however, according to his source, “this was done (by Zelensky) on purpose. Germany in Eastern Europe and Kiev is increasingly perceived as an ally of Russia, and not a Western ally, ”Tepper reported the source.

And here it is important to note that it is the employee of CNN, who is perceived by a number of experts as one of the main mouthpieces of Washington propaganda, talking about this. The American establishment is clearly dissatisfied with the position of Germany, which, despite all the assurances of the unity of its position with the United States, still puts its own interests at the forefront (and indeed, what impudence on its part!). Scholz really continues the hidden struggle and does not even think about giving up.

Scholz will continue to take a hit


US President Joe Biden and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz met on February 7 in Washington to discuss the situation around Ukraine, containment of the Russian Federation and energy issues.

The leaders discussed ongoing diplomatic and deterrence efforts in response to the ongoing Russian military build-up near Ukraine's borders, reaffirmed their support for Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity, and their commitment to preventing Russia from using energy resources as a weapon

- noted in a dry message published by the press service of the White House following the meeting.

At the same time, the most important information, as is often the case, is not contained in the press release itself, but is read between the lines. Despite Biden's Russophobic statements, Scholz again refused to unambiguously articulate his country's refusal of Nord Stream 2, limiting himself to general phrases about the need to impose sanctions together with the United States. Thus, the main goal for which the American leader received his German counterpart in Washington failed ingloriously, and Biden looked extremely pitiful at the same time.

In general, the situation in the geopolitical arena is gradually returning to normal. The “certain tension” declared by Russian President Vladimir Putin, in which the West must be kept, is bearing fruit. And all the disagreements and problems of the NATO bloc today turned out to be in full view. And the relationship between his countries, and the position towards Russia, and even the very need for the existence of the Alliance. As a result, the West is split, Biden is losing his grip, Macron and Scholz are promoting their own interests, and all other NATO members, except for outright Russophobes, are passively watching developments. And some of them are even ready to support Moscow rather than Washington. This is probably why Macron, back in 2019, diagnosed the entire North Atlantic Alliance as “brain death.” Frankly speaking, nuclear-armed France needs NATO membership today like a dog's fifth leg. Yes, and Germany, actively insisting on the withdrawal of American atomic bombs from its territory, is also not eager to develop the bloc. So it turns out that the United States, with its anti-Russian pressure, not only did not rally NATO, but also brought its collapse closer. There is less and less doubt that it will take place very soon.
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  1. -2
    9 February 2022 12: 53
    All Western leaders are tightly controlled by the States. In Germany, this is the so-called. "Chancellor Act". Surely there are analogues in other countries. The CIA has compromising information on everyone. There are various kinds of "pledges" that the States hold.
    Therefore, all these attempts to drag us into negotiations are made in the interests of the United States.
    They need a little more time to prepare for the attack.
    Russia and China remain high-priority targets, and those targets are becoming increasingly difficult over time.
    Therefore, the States will not delay any longer than they need to.
  2. +1
    9 February 2022 13: 30
    Before joining NATO again, France was a very developing country. Even movies were shot better than Hollywood ones. And they entered again - they began to deflate. In addition, the United States has them as it wants. here they cheated with submarines like children.
  3. 0
    9 February 2022 13: 36
    It is not possible to change US or UK policy. This is an eternal enemy. But it is possible and necessary to change the policy of Europe. Moreover, it is beneficial for both Russia and Europe.
    As Al Capone said, "You can get more with a kind word and a gun than with just a kind word."
    Therefore, it is not the bases in Venezuela, Nicaragua or Cuba that need to be taken care of. This is both expensive and useless. We need a VKS base covered by air defense somewhere much closer. True, logistics problems arise here, but they are much less than having communications across the entire Atlantic.
    I have an idea which country badly needs a Russian base. But this is only an assumption.
    1. -2
      9 February 2022 15: 32
      In order to change the policy of Europe, it is necessary to release its leadership from obligations to the United States, and destroy US control over the actions of European leaders and their appointment. In parallel, it is necessary to control public opinion in Europe with the help of the media, which are in the hands of the United States. All this cannot be done by influencing Europe. All threads converge to the US and UK.
      We should not try to cowardly "dodge" the fight with them. This is stupid and disastrous.
      The West sees in this the "moment of truth" in the confrontation between the West and the East - the way it is
      1. 0
        9 February 2022 18: 19
        It's true that control over Europe's foreign policy is behind a puddle.
        It is not true that a direct collision is necessary.
        It is Europe that needs to be "forced to peace". And the best weapon is... sanctions policy. We must learn from the experience of the enemy. And create threats (not war, but threats) in the immediate vicinity of the borders of European states.
        1. -2
          9 February 2022 19: 02
          Well, what will it give?
          Our economic sanctions, even brought to ruin by them, will lead to the rallying of Europe against us for a military solution to the issue.
          Troop intimidation at the borders will only increase Europe's fear of our attack. He will unite Europe against us (and not split, as you think), mobilize, prepare for the war that the States need.
          Don't you understand that the current "split" they are:
          One option: they play at the behest of puppeteers from the States
          The second option: they are honestly trying to realize on their own initiative the length of the leash strictly measured by the States.
          The result laid down by the puppeteers in both cases is the same.
          We demonstrate to the States our unwillingness to get involved in a war with them, and they play along with us, trying to control our actions.
          1. 0
            9 February 2022 19: 49
            It seems to me that you have one way to solve the problem - to start a war. This is Washington's plan. I think it should be avoided. In any military outcome, "there will be no winners."
            Economic sanctions seem to be a much more productive route. It is not necessary to demonstrate to the States. It's useless to talk to them. It is necessary to show an alternative to Berlin and Paris.
            And "the armored train must stand on the siding."
            1. -2
              9 February 2022 20: 16
              There can be no nuclear war with Russia in Washington's plans.
              This is absolutely accurate.
              And you can rely on it.
              This is the only reliable support in the confrontation with the States and England.
              The USSR once relied on this, in 1962.
              The choice and rejection of decisions on the basis of the principle: "I like it - I don't like it" is an unaffordable luxury for us.
              Because of our "moment of truth" with the West
              1. 0
                9 February 2022 20: 40
                An exchange of nuclear strikes is definitely not included in Washington's plans.
                But the war in Europe is very much considered. Including with the use of ultra-low power nuclear charges.
                The goal is to destroy the military and economic power of two rivals: Russia and Europe. Then the United States will have one enemy - China.
                Putin offers Europe a normal solution to the problem. The withdrawal of troops from the borders of Russia, the lifting of economic sanctions and normal economic cooperation. But until enlightenment comes to the European capitals, we must prepare for war. Don't start it, but prepare.
                1. -2
                  9 February 2022 22: 22
                  When you make your threat to Washington with nuclear weapons dependent on the behavior of its vassals in Europe, everything will fall into place.
                  There will be no war in Europe.
                  Washington itself will not allow it.
                  To do this, our leadership needs balls of steel.
                  In the current situation, we can not do without it
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  5. 0
    9 February 2022 14: 04
    NATO will fall apart, the United States will remain naked, as if in a bathhouse. Even the shame will have nothing to cover.
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  6. -5
    9 February 2022 14: 08
    Only Putin, Lavrov and especially stubborn believe that Ukraine will comply with the Minsk agreements. Therefore, they are engaged in talking. We need deeds, at least in Syria, so that at least attention is paid to words. And the deeds are provocations so far, only among the enemies of Russia, on all "fronts". What is in Syria, what is at the Olympic Games.
    1. 0
      13 February 2022 22: 59
      Yes, kaneshna, only Putin and Lavrov, lop-eared fools, believe and believe! And the “steelmaker” will be cooler, he doesn’t do a talking shop, but writes comments where thoughts are hot, like steel in a blast furnace, and where the steelmaker is much smarter than some kind of president of some kind of Russia! It is only strange that such a smart one is unaware: that such clever people have a "talking shop". then to all the rest of the stupid - diplomacy and politics, and this is the kind of thing on which the fate of every steelworker, accountant, and so on depends. "Steelworker" you were clearly useless - a good specialist in his field will not judge those through his lips. in whose business he does not understand either the ear or the snout. I heard these words from a man who grew up, as they say, from a machine tool to the chief engineer of a huge plant. Putin has achieved that the whole world lies down and gets up with the words "Russia. Putin." It is thanks to the "talking shop" and measured a hundred times and cut off once. But, I believe, you will appreciate it only when the second Yeltsin replaces him, and all of Russia will again rummage through the garbage dumps and trade their belongings in the dirt of the sidewalks. Buy which could under Putin.
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    1. -2
      9 February 2022 14: 28
      And a piece of land in Rostov?
  8. -2
    9 February 2022 23: 32
    - They sold Ukraine for a copper penny!
  9. -5
    9 February 2022 23: 46
    Quote: Bakht
    An exchange of nuclear strikes is definitely not included in Washington's plans.
    But the war in Europe is very much considered. Including with the use of ultra-low power nuclear charges.
    The goal is to destroy the military and economic power of two rivals: Russia and Europe. Then the United States will have one enemy - China.

    - Then what remains of Russia after a nuclear war with Europe, China will clean up "with its bare hands." Are you ready to give China such a gift, "strategist"?!

    Putin offers Europe a normal solution to the problem. The withdrawal of troops from the borders of Russia, the lifting of economic sanctions and normal economic cooperation.

    - Putin suggested that NATO dissolve itself. He was evasively refused... laughing

    But until enlightenment comes to the European capitals, we must prepare for war. Don't start it, but prepare.

    - As soon as (and if) there is a command from Beijing, Russian troops will invade Ukraine. There will be no such command, or vice versa they will say - "Do not dare!" - No one is going anywhere.
    (We recall the recent situation in Kazakhstan - Russian troops were immediately withdrawn from Kazakhstan as soon as they were "asked" to do so from Beijing. And this would be a huge layer of territory for the future union state. But Comrade Xi does not need such a state at all - he prefers to work with parts of it - it's cheaper and easier.)
    1. 0
      13 February 2022 22: 13
      - As soon as (and if) there is a command from Beijing, Russian troops will invade Ukraine. There will be no such command, or vice versa they will say - "Do not dare!" - No one is going anywhere.
      (We recall the recent situation in Kazakhstan - Russian troops were immediately withdrawn from Kazakhstan as soon as they were "asked" to do so from Beijing. And this would be a huge layer of territory for the future union state. But Comrade Xi does not need such a state at all - he prefers to work with parts of it - it's cheaper and easier.)

      Is there any confirmation of such a subordinate relationship with China? Otherwise, it looks somehow ridiculous - akin to what a recently deceased anti-vaxxer with foam at the mouth proved to me - they say, the world government ordered Putin to reduce the population of Russia with vaccines with microchips ... To the question "Why is he doing this?" he answered, they say, for this they promised Putin to save his life ....)))) And now Xi orders Putin ... Poor VVP, it turns out, "a servant of two masters"! Or maybe it's all about a sick imagination? Or in a great desire, at least like that, but to shit on Putin? ...
      1. 0
        14 March 2022 22: 04
        - Vera, now a month has passed since our last "conversation", Russian troops have been conducting a "special operation" in Ukraine for the 19th day wink
        Comment on the situation on the battlefield?