Unacceptable exchange: How three NATO aircraft carriers "fell into a trap" in the Mediterranean Sea

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January 24, 2022 on the "Reporter" came out publication with the title "In the Mediterranean, the likelihood of a direct clash between Russia and the United States is growing", where we considered the balance of forces of the Russian Navy and the US Navy in the region. Two weeks later, it can be stated that from a purely hypothetical event this event has already passed into the plane of quite practical. What goals are the parties trying to achieve, and what can it cost them?

In the "wild-wild" West


It is easy to guess that the background for the extraordinary militarization of the Mediterranean region was the situation in Ukraine and the so-called "Putin's ultimatum" demanding that NATO not expand further to the East at the expense of the former Soviet republics. Judging by how many Russian troops are now concentrated along the Ukrainian borders, the Kremlin fully admits even a forceful solution to the problem, which is clearly 8 years late.



Geopolitical opponents are also on the alert. The United States began moving additional troops to Eastern Europe, and samples of American anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons began to arrive in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The US Navy's Sixth Fleet has been replenished with the aircraft carrier Harry Truman, with an escort of several multipurpose destroyers and cruisers. To enhance its strike capabilities, an Ohio-class nuclear submarine was also sent, converted to carry 154 Tomahawks. Located in the Adriatic Sea, the Nimitz demonstratively conducted the Neptune Strike 2022 exercise (Neptune Strike 2022). From the Eastern Mediterranean, if necessary, its carrier-based aircraft and cruise missiles of escort ships, as well as submarines, can strike at targets in eastern Ukraine if the situation there gets out of Kiev’s control.

Note that "Harry Truman" is not the only potential problem for the RF Ministry of Defense. The American AUG came under the direct command of NATO for the first time since the end of the Cold War. In addition to it, Brussels has in the AUG region of the French Navy Task Force 473 (TF 473) as part of the Challe de Gaulle aircraft carrier, the Horizon type air defense frigate (destroyer) Forbin, the FREMM air defense frigate Alsace, the FREMM frigate Normandy, the Arleigh-class URO destroyer US Navy Burke USS Ross, Spanish Navy Juan de Borbon-class frigate Álvaro de Bazán, Eli Adrias-class Hellenic Navy frigate and two submarines. In addition, together with the American and French allies in the NATO bloc, Italy and its aircraft carrier strike group ITS "Cavour" Strike Group took part in the exercises. U.S. Navy Rear Admiral Kurt Renshaw commented on this unity as follows:

The capabilities of the American carrier strike group are enhanced if they operate together with our allies and partners.

The response of the Russian Defense Ministry indicates that the Russian leadership fully admits the possibility of a real collision with them. In the Mediterranean, there is currently an unusual accumulation of Russian "Atlantes" - missile cruisers "Varyag" and "Marshal Ustinov". It is expected that Moskva will soon join them from the Black Sea. In the Soviet period, Project 1164 was considered precisely as an “aircraft carrier killer”, thanks to the most powerful P-1000 Vulkan anti-ship missiles, which each cruiser can carry 16 pieces on board.


And now in the Mediterranean Sea there are three ships of such a “lethal” class at once, two of which, in fact, are the flagships: the Varyag of the Pacific Fleet, the Moscow of the Black Sea, and the Marshal Ustinov, the second most powerful on Northern Fleet after "Peter the Great". Several BODs, Admiral Tributs and Vice-Admiral Kulakov, will be responsible for their anti-submarine cover, our most modern frigate of project 22350 Admiral Kasatonov, corvettes Stoykiy and Smart, equipped with sea-based air defense systems, will be responsible for their anti-aircraft cover. Redoubt”, as well as combat aircraft from the Khmeimim base in Syria.

What can Russian ships do to the NATO fleet? Pretty much.

A huge advantage of the AUG is the ability to operate from a safe distance for yourself by the "far hand" of carrier-based aviation. However, the Mediterranean is just a “big puddle” where you don’t run much. The base range of the Vulkan anti-ship missiles is 700 kilometers, while the cruisers Moskva and Marshal Ustinov after modernization are 1000 kilometers. Located in the Adriatic Sea, "Harry Truman" actually found himself in a trap, and if he tries to take an active part in the hostilities in the East of Ukraine, he may be sunk. It is possible that Russian cruisers will even be able to sink both French and Italian aircraft carriers if they decide to intervene.

Let's be realistic. After this, all Russian ships in the Mediterranean will inevitably die, given the wide aviation capabilities of NATO in the region (there simply won’t be enough anti-aircraft missiles for everyone), but such an exchange may turn out to be unacceptable for the NATO bloc. Are Washington and Brussels ready to destroy several not the newest Soviet-built cruisers and BODs, losing from 1 to 3 aircraft carriers? Doubtful.

Somewhere in the Far East...


It is obvious that the Pentagon really does not like such layouts, and therefore the Anglo-Saxons, in their Jesuit style, began to “pull apart” the Russian forces.

So, by an interesting coincidence, it was yesterday, February 7, that Japan celebrated the day of their so-called "northern territories", our Kuril Islands. US Ambassador to the Land of the Rising Sun Rahm Emanuel made an important statement:

On this day, February 7th, when Japan celebrates Northern Territories Day, I want to be very clear - the United States stands with Japan on the issue of Northern Territories. And they have recognized Japanese sovereignty over the four disputed islands since the 1950s.

That is, in fact, the Americans are pushing their allies to seriously think about the transition from talk to action on the issue of the annexation of the Kuriles. Now, when Russia and NATO are on the verge of a direct conflict, all combat-ready units of the Eastern Military District have been deployed to the Ukrainian border, and the flagship of the Pacific Fleet is in the Mediterranean, the situation is developing exceptionally well for Japan. At a minimum, we should expect large-scale military exercises from the Maritime Self-Defense Forces. The Russian Defense Ministry will have to respond to this by hastily returning the Varyag cruiser and the Admiral Tributs BOD back to the KTOF, weakening the strike potential in the Eastern Mediterranean.

Once again we come to the conclusionthat the size of the Russian army and its navy for a country like ours, with such unfriendly neighbors, is clearly insufficient.
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  1. +6
    8 February 2022 12: 24
    and 8 years ago Russia was ready to resist NATO? and Ukrainians who would have to be fed were at least 10 million more. It is beneficial for the United States and its allies that Russia put Ukraine on its balance sheet ... fuck you laughing The arms race and the gluttonous smaller "brothers" are one of the reasons for the collapse of the USSR. All sucked out of Russia.
    1. -6
      8 February 2022 17: 06
      Well, take out the nonsense
      1. -5
        8 February 2022 17: 52
        you are talking nonsense in your article. Do you have any idea how many missiles are needed to break through the AUG air defense? Volcanoes, with their dimensions, will glow on radars like Christmas trees, this is a rocket of the last century, morally obsolete and the chance to disable an aircraft carrier is minimal, not to mention sinking it. Taking into account the presence of AWACS aviation in the AUG, the launch of missiles will be noticeable almost immediately, which will allow the air defense systems of the AUG order to prepare to repel the attack and raise additional aircraft into the air.
        1. +7
          9 February 2022 02: 36
          You really have grief from your mind, what's the use of binoculars if you put a gun to your head and it doesn’t matter that the cartridges in it are outdated. They explained to you that the action takes place in the Mediterranean Sea, where there is no operational maneuver and the launch of missiles will be observed not by an AWACS aircraft, but by a watchman on the bridge of an aircraft carrier, and what can be done during this time? In such a situation, under the Union, the Americans realized the real danger, not only from a missile cruiser, but from an artillery destroyer of project 56
          1. -1
            9 February 2022 08: 01
            Yes, our "navigator" has something personal for me.
        2. -5
          9 February 2022 02: 44
          A missile attack by any US ship will be followed by a retaliatory attack, with the likely sinking of the attacking Russian ship.
          "Upstairs you, comrades, all in your places! The last parade is coming! .."
        3. -2
          9 February 2022 07: 46
          Well, other readers have already answered for me. hi
          1. -1
            9 February 2022 07: 48
            and 8 years ago Russia was ready to resist NATO?

            8 years ago, NATO was not ready to confront Russia. It was Ukraine that became the point of bifurcation, showing the stability of the Russian leadership and its unpreparedness for a real confrontation.

            and Ukrainians who would have to be fed were at least 10 million more. It is beneficial for the United States and its allies that Russia put Ukraine on its balance sheet ... fuck you

            And about feeding Ukrainians - this is generally fierce propaganda nonsense.
        4. +1
          9 February 2022 10: 36
          The chances of the US Navy AUG to intercept even supersonic anti-ship missiles are close to zero, hypersound is not "taken" at all. When attacking from one direction, the AUG's air defense breaks through with a half-kick.
          1. -2
            11 February 2022 16: 19
            Where do these calculations come from? Or do you have experience?
            1. 0
              12 February 2022 09: 34
              What is there to expect? AUG now - 3-4 surface combat pennants, not counting the aircraft carrier itself. In reality, they do not cluster together, as in the front photos, but are located tens of kilometers from each other. That is, "feed" from one direction will be received by 1, maximum 2 URO ships. This is no more than 5-6 targets per AN / SPY-1 canvas. The characteristics of the American naval missiles SM-2 and SM-6 are such that the interception of "Granite" and "Volcano" is already on the verge for them. And Kh-22, Kh-32, "Onyx", "Zircon", "Dagger" will simply not care about them. In general, it will be enough, say, one 885M and one 22350 to complete the task.
      2. -2
        9 February 2022 07: 36
        please respect your opponents, and not use your immunity! there is no desire to chew on the obvious.
  2. -5
    8 February 2022 12: 44
    The USSR in 86 had the largest fleet in the world and an army of 5.5 million, and this did not save him. The main enemy of Russia is Russia itself, its internal problems.
    And stop using the hackneyed stamp already: the killer of aircraft carriers. Have you killed one? At least tried it?
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    2. +2
      8 February 2022 17: 56
      In the Battle of Midway, 6 aircraft carriers were sunk at once!
      1. -2
        9 February 2022 07: 58
        Midway was a very long time ago and in a completely different war.
    3. -3
      8 February 2022 18: 31
      the main enemy of Russia - SOBRIETY! Here Mishka Humpbacked vodka banned - and please, revolution of 91, Tsar Nikolashka in 14 bungled dry law - and - bitte, revolution of 1917. So we draw conclusions and go to the store! Vodka is strength, dead wood is a grave!
      1. -3
        8 February 2022 18: 57
        So everything will be fine, according to Rosstat, the Russians began to drink more again. The other day the box reported. Stability guaranteed.
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          +1
          10 February 2022 08: 55
          So everything will be fine, according to Rosstat, the Russians began to drink more again. The other day the box reported.

          Dreaming laughing It doesn't seem to be good for you. As they say that the Russian is good, then ...

          Vodka consumption per capita in Russia in 2021 increased by 2020% compared to 2, to 5 liters per person. The Center for the Study of Federal and Regional Alcohol Markets calculated this indicator based on data from the Unified State Automated Information System and the population in the Russian Federation. Izvestia got acquainted with the information. At the same time, Rosalkogolregulirovanie reported that sales of all alcoholic products increased by 0,7% last year. According to experts, in our country the trend to reduce the consumption of strong drinks continues, a statistical increase is provided by the fight against illegal alcohol.

          https://iz.ru/1285235/evgeniia-pertceva/stopki-signal-v-rossii-vyroslo-potreblenie-vodki

          Stability guaranteed.

          Indeed, stability is guaranteed. That's right, the drunkard, as usual, fills in about Russian Yes This UN explains what vodka is. The only country that has been identified guess 3 times.

          Alcohol - ethyl alcohol, ethanol, the most common substance in Europe, Russia, North America, parts of the states of Southeast Asia and the South Pacific region, a narcotic substance that has a depressive effect on the nervous system.

          If you look at the statistics in the same report, it turns out that Russia is in 11,7th place with 16 liters per capita. Below (11,6) are Austria, Estonia, Poland, (11,5) Gabon, Slovakia, Switzerland and the UK. And by some miracle, Seychelles and Nigeria, and Moldovans, got into the top ten of the leaders of the list. And so one friendly European Union drunkard. Lithuania (5), Czech Republic (15), Germany (14,4) confidently hold in the TOP-13,4.
          https://gtmarket.ru/ratings/global-alcohol-consumption
    4. -3
      8 February 2022 18: 55
      As the old drivers said: "It was not about the reel, ..."
  3. -2
    8 February 2022 12: 59
    Once again, we come to the conclusion that the size of the Russian army and its navy for a country like ours, with such unfriendly neighbors, is clearly insufficient.

    Here the author wants to ruin Russia, he can’t even sleep. I wonder what we did to him?
    1. +1
      8 February 2022 13: 09
      Who are you? Shenderovich, Chubais, Gozman, Venediktov, Dud?
      You liberals ruined my country. I would take care of your re-education. smile
      1. +4
        8 February 2022 14: 52
        You certainly named the names of disgusting creatures. But still, with all my love for the fleet, one must understand that it makes no sense to spend a disproportionate amount on the fleet. There is a military doctrine of the state, and the general algorithm of actions and decision-making is clearly described there. We are completely unprepared to give up nuclear weapons and, above all, tactical nuclear weapons, but on the contrary, we must make it clear when and under what conditions we will use it. Japan is a great example! You have to be completely frostbitten in your head to try to act absolutely symmetrically! When a pair of multi-purpose nuclear submarines in the inland Sea of ​​Okhotsk completely reshape the real balance of power! And the fact that Japan will show there defiling under their guns is their problem! We are stupid to defile in response!
        1. +5
          8 February 2022 19: 51
          You have to be completely frostbitten in your head to try to act absolutely symmetrically!

          Very rightly pointed out. Always thought exactly the same. Catching up, not to mention overtaking in quantity, is a stupid idea. The second race that we will not pull out. Therefore, it is necessary to respond not symmetrically, but adequately to the threat. And the use of tactical nuclear weapons is quite appropriate here. As soon as the West realizes that we are not joking, they themselves will not be joking.
        2. -2
          9 February 2022 07: 49
          You have to be completely frostbitten in your head to try to act absolutely symmetrically! When a pair of multi-purpose nuclear submarines in the inland Sea of ​​Okhotsk completely reshape the real balance of power!

          Tell me, why then does the Ministry of Defense put missiles, tanks, aircraft in the Kuril Islands, if a couple of nuclear submarines are enough?

          But still, with all my love for the fleet, one must understand that it makes no sense to spend a disproportionate amount on the fleet.

          Nowhere and never in my articles did I call for acting symmetrically. About the fleet, it was about SUFFICIENCY.
          1. -1
            9 February 2022 11: 09
            Sorry, a pair of nuclear submarines costs hundreds of times more than everything that the Moscow Region does in the Kuriles! Of course, military units are needed there, and not just border guards! They need air defense systems, anti-ship missiles, there are very convenient locations for DRLN points (high coast, mountains). Even MTO places for the fleet are definitely needed! And under the USSR they were there! But to drive a fleet there for defile is definitely not necessary! Behind the Kuriles is our, in fact, "internal" Sea of ​​​​Okhotsk! Deep. For nuclear submarines and SSBNs, this is a safe watch area. There, formally, you can go - there are extraterritorial waters. And there is a fleet there - Pacific Fleet (TOZhe Fleet, as sailors say, Northern Fleet - Strong Fleet, BF - Former Fleet, Black Sea Fleet - Slightly Fleet). And yes, it, the Pacific Fleet must be developed, it is the second most powerful in our country and the second most important - who argues ?! But there is no need for all sorts of troughs, such as Kuzi, and other experimental excrement! There is already a lot more than enough to cover the Kuriles! But we're not going to Hokkaido?!
      2. -2
        8 February 2022 16: 16
        We are Russians, regardless of political preferences.
        Do you hate the Russian Federation for this, for the fact that it arose on the ruins of your adored USSR?
        You are again from a sick head to a healthy one! The USSR was destroyed not by mythical liberals, but by the leaders of the CPSU, proven over the years, the best of the best, intelligence, honor and conscience of a bygone era.
        1. +2
          8 February 2022 16: 45
          Quote: Oleg Rambover
          We are Russians, regardless of political preferences.

          Do not lie, you are on a liberal position in assessing the development of Russia, therefore, about "regardless of preferences" - lie. The statement that the author hates Russia is also lie. Also lies is your statement that the mythical liberals fought the communists.

          Are you still unable to learn to tell the truth? laughing
        2. -1
          9 February 2022 07: 54
          We are Russians, regardless of political preferences.

          Who delegated the right to speak for all Russians to you, a liberal?

          Do you hate the Russian Federation for this, for the fact that it arose on the ruins of your adored USSR?

          I do not hate the Russian Federation, this is the country of which I am a citizen.

          How in 37?

          These are your dark fantasies.
          1. -4
            9 February 2022 12: 23
            Quote: Marzhetsky
            Who delegated the right to speak for all Russians to you, a liberal?

            Probably the same ones who delegated the right to speak for all Russians to you, the Imperial. Actually, where did I speak on behalf of all Russians? I just expressed my opinion that the Russians will feel everything in their own skin if the Russian Federation enters into a ruinous arms race, as you want.

            Quote: Marzhetsky
            I do not hate the Russian Federation, this is the country of which I am a citizen.

            Well, look, the recipe for the collapse of the USSR was quite simple
            1. long-term stagnation (stagnation)
            2. Ruinous arms race
            3. Devastating (not only in material terms) war in Afghanistan
            4. Falling oil prices (according to rumors, unconfirmed by anyone, arranged by the USA)

            Now look at today's RF
            1. There is already a multi-year stagnation.
            2. So far, there seems to be no ruinous arms race. But you propose to arrange.
            3. There is no devastating war yet (everything is light in Syria), but you propose to arrange it in Ukraine.
            4. The only thing left to do is drop oil prices (accidentally, naturally, or intentionally)
            And voila, the recipe for Perestroika 2.0 is ready. And I do not want to spend my old age in the "epoch of change." And I do not wish my country such upheavals.
            There, Mr. Volkonsky is a citizen of Ukraine, but this does not prevent him from hating his country with every fiber of his soul.

            Quote: Marzhetsky
            These are your dark fantasies.

            Unfortunately, these are the dark fantasies of your predecessors that have come true.
            You don't know any other way. Who does not want to go to a bright communist future, that to the nail.
            1. -2
              11 February 2022 16: 20
              Unfortunately, these are the dark fantasies of your predecessors that have come true.
              You don't know any other way. Who does not want to go to a bright communist future, that to the nail.

              You'll probably get a ticket on the philosophical steamer then. smile
              1. -2
                11 February 2022 17: 11
                Unfortunately (or fortunately), I am not a philosopher.
  4. +2
    8 February 2022 13: 14
    Running complexes on the islands will not let you stir up something serious .. and the Japs better do FOKUSHIMA .. because it stinks.
  5. +7
    8 February 2022 13: 26
    Are Washington and Brussels ready to destroy several not the newest Soviet-built cruisers and BODs, losing from 1 to 3 aircraft carriers? Doubtful.

    It turns out from your words like NATO will shoot and sink 1-3 of our ships, and ours will shoot and sink 1-3 aircraft carriers and at this expense? What kind of nonsense? And what will the rest of the ships, NATO and Khmeimim carrier-based aircraft do? boats on either side?

    Let's be realistic. All Russian ships in the Mediterranean after this, inevitable death awaits

    exactly?

    given NATO's extensive aviation capabilities in the region

    at the moment when ours will sink the AUG, will the aviation of each aircraft carrier be 100% in the air?
    Somehow you described everything apocalypti cally for Russia.

    That is, in fact, the Americans are pushing their allies to seriously think about the transition from talk to action on the issue of the annexation of the Kuriles

    This is already a declaration of war in fact, an invasion of the territory of Russia, and you can safely throw a few nuclear bombs on Japan and once and for all solve the problem by excluding one player (enemy) This is theoretically, if anything, I don’t urge anyone to drop bombs. It’s just that the Japanese, unlike the Yankees understand the consequences if they twitch on the territory of Russia.
    1. -7
      8 February 2022 15: 06
      Russia will not pull out a war on two fronts. And will not use nuclear weapons on Japan
      1. +6
        8 February 2022 15: 52
        The NATO ship grouping will sink our ships in the Mediterranean Sea, and everything that will be there, the Japanese will take the Kuriles for themselves, and we, knowing that we won’t take out two wars, crawl away?
        Well, I’m not a president or a military strategist, but even theoretically estimating that when you have a battle with the NATO bloc in the Mediterranean Sea and in the east at that time the Japanese destroy the Russian military group and infrastructure in the Kuriles and capture them what Putin says on the box? Like sorry, dear Russians, we can’t fight on two fronts, so we’re crawling away? I only have the option of eliminating one of the two threats and focusing on one, but I repeat, I’m not a strategist, but retreating or not reacting in any way is a 100% defeat.
        1. -4
          9 February 2022 07: 58
          Well, I’m not a president or a military strategist, but even theoretically estimating that when you have a battle with the NATO bloc in the Mediterranean Sea and in the east at that time the Japanese destroy the Russian military group and infrastructure in the Kuriles and capture them what Putin says on the box? Like sorry, dear Russians, we can’t fight on two fronts, so we’re crawling away? I only have the option of eliminating one of the two threats and focusing on one, but I repeat, I’m not a strategist, but retreating or not reacting in any way is a 100% defeat.

          Maybe it really would be better if you were our president smile You write sensible things.
      2. -5
        8 February 2022 21: 04
        Excuse me, but what are the 2 fronts?! Which is the first and which is the second? And why use nuclear weapons?! Its use is a last resort! So far, thank God, we have not the slightest reason to use it!
        1. -1
          9 February 2022 07: 56
          The first is the prospect of a war in Ukraine with NATO joining it, indirectly so far. The second is the possible actions of the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Forces against the Kuriles at this very moment, when all forces are on the western front.
          1. -1
            9 February 2022 13: 18
            It's not really 2 fronts. What is NATO in Durkain?! It would be a great option - to arrange a disassembly, since it is "inevitable" on the most convenient theater for Russia - the Black Sea and Durkain - but alas, there are no fools, and it is clearly not worth thinking that NATO will join this shit! They will be 100% behind the scenes! They are ready to sacrifice Durkaina for their own purposes! Not because they want it, but because in the current situation it is the best solution.
            Japan is the exact opposite case in many ways! It is clearly impossible to make street monsters from Mordor out of us! Japan is too well known to the local surrounding public, all of them, like Russia and Japan, have been at war for 80 years! There, no one will sympathize with the Yapas! And an attack on the territory of Russia - by the way, also in a place that is extremely convenient for us - is also a "so-so" idea! I wouldn't count on it!
      3. 0
        9 February 2022 07: 29
        The threat to the territorial integrity of the country is a legitimate reason for the use of nuclear weapons. Or do you disagree with military doctrine?
        1. 0
          9 February 2022 07: 56
          It doesn't matter what I agree with. The only important thing is how realistic the political leadership of the country is ready to go.
  6. 0
    8 February 2022 14: 07
    Well, do not forget about our latest developments in the field of R
    EB, or have the Americans already forgotten how their crews were decommissioned ashore after the impact of these means?
    1. -2
      8 February 2022 15: 07
      Nobody signed up. This is a fake, long debunked.
  7. -3
    8 February 2022 14: 40
    How many times have they told the world that something will happen to the AUG ...
    And at most, planes occasionally flounder in the sea .... and this applies to everyone ...
  8. +1
    8 February 2022 15: 20
    The United States supports Japan on the issue of northern territories. And they have recognized Japanese sovereignty over the four disputed islands since the 1950s.

    And in 1945, the United States agreed to give the USSR not only these islands, but also Hokkaido in exchange for the USSR's entry into the war against Japan. It turns out that the United States does not keep its word and they are not a kid - but a balabol?
  9. -5
    8 February 2022 16: 11
    Mr. Marzhetsky, be more careful about Chubais, he is a special representative for relations with international organizations, appointed by President Putin V.V. You are against Chubais, then against Putin, against Putin, then against Russia.
  10. -6
    8 February 2022 16: 29
    Quote: Sergey Pavlenko
    Well, do not forget about our latest developments in the P area
    EB, or have the Americans already forgotten how their crews were decommissioned ashore after the impact of these means?

    Are these the ones that are made on a collectively scrapped component base?
    Yes, they definitely have no analogues.
  11. -6
    8 February 2022 16: 35
    Quote: passing by
    voracious "brothers" smaller one of the reasons for the collapse of the USSR

    So, and now freed from them, the Russian Federation realized that of her friends, only the Army and Navy.
    Miracles of geostrategic thought.
  12. +2
    8 February 2022 17: 11
    Quote: Marzhetsky
    Well, take out the nonsense

    Seryozha, you don’t like competitors, but in vain
    1. -4
      9 February 2022 07: 50
      You don't hurt me.
  13. 0
    8 February 2022 17: 31
    Let's be realistic. All Russian ships in the Mediterranean after this, inevitable death awaits,

    Then it will be another war. The increase in nuclear war will rise to 100% And since Europe is just a small peninsula. The density of the population is high. For Europe it will be like death. ... In general, no one will win this war .... Well, if only China, if it sits aside.
  14. -9
    8 February 2022 17: 44
    Only one thing is not clear: why does the Russian leadership want war so much? Well, you can understand ordinary people who live from "penny to penny", but having multimillion-dollar real estate, finances, close people living in the West and America? It's simply incomprehensible to the mind !!!
    1. +3
      8 February 2022 17: 59
      Quote: Alexander K_2
      Only one thing is not clear: why does the Russian leadership want war so much? Well, you can understand ordinary people who live from "penny to penny", but having multimillion-dollar real estate, finances, close people living in the West and America? It's simply incomprehensible to the mind !!!

      At least one example, at least 1 adequate, where did the government want war?
      1. -6
        9 February 2022 06: 45
        The leadership of the Russian Federation is pulling troops to the borders of Ukraine, the Republic of Belarus is providing its territory for the deployment of foreign troops, ostensibly for exercises.
        1. 0
          9 February 2022 18: 16
          But there is no Russian border there and Russia does not have the right to place them there? But either at the border of the country, Russia (on its territory) slightly increased the contingent, where they yell at a Muscovite at a Gilyak? Muscovites on knives, the Nazis march through the streets and their leaders say that they will march through the streets of Moscow? And not on the border (their border with Ukraine) of the country in which we are enemies and supposedly have been fighting for 8 years? And not on the border of the country that sent boats to violate the border of the Russian Federation? And neither country sent saboteurs in the Crimea at the hands of which our FSB officer died?

          The leadership of the Russian Federation is pulling troops to the borders of Ukraine, the Republic of Belarus is providing its territory for the deployment of foreign troops, ostensibly for exercises.

          These teachings were announced long ago and in advance, and moreover, they do not even violate the Vienna conventions
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  17. 0
    8 February 2022 20: 46
    Mr. Marzhetsky stubbornly continues to dwell in the world of his own naive fantasies. smile
    1. -4
      9 February 2022 08: 03
      Yes, yes, of course. bully
  18. -2
    8 February 2022 20: 52
    Something the author has some kind of doublethink. Either he is going to change the Russian Atlantes for the US AUG, then he says that there can be nothing like this:

    Quote: Marzhetsky
    And then we must remember that after that it is supposed to start a nuclear war. Which no one needs. Therefore, no one (US Navy) will destroy a Russian aircraft carrier near Venezuela, just like we are American in the Black Sea.
    1. -5
      8 February 2022 21: 42
      You are wrong, Sergey has a lot of thoughts. Or, which is also possible, you do not know how to formulate your thought correctly. laughing

      What alarmed you so much in the author's article, Mr. Oleg Rambover? Why do liberals not like the work of Sergei Evgenievich?
  19. 0
    9 February 2022 02: 50
    Quote: Valera75
    Are Washington and Brussels ready to destroy several not the newest Soviet-built cruisers and BODs, losing from 1 to 3 aircraft carriers? Doubtful.

    It turns out from your words like NATO will shoot and sink 1-3 of our ships, and ours will shoot and sink 1-3 aircraft carriers and at this expense? What kind of nonsense? And what will the rest of the ships, NATO and Khmeimim carrier-based aircraft do? boats on either side?

    Let's be realistic. All Russian ships in the Mediterranean after this, inevitable death awaits

    exactly?

    In reality, everything is much worse than you can imagine in your worst dream... winked
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    9 February 2022 08: 06
    Theoretically, it is possible to conduct exercises with the PRC in that area. But this is the concern of the leaders, we only assume.
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    9 February 2022 11: 43
    At least one example, at least 1 adequate, where did the government want war?

    I dare to ask, was there at least one day in Russia, and even in the USSR, without participating in the war?
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      9 February 2022 18: 23
      Have you registered now to ask this? Or earn money for posts? From which incubator are you, from the pan-head or Baltic?
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  23. 0
    9 February 2022 19: 05
    Yes, the United States is afraid of Korea, but we will have a little more pain ... Therefore, you should not talk to them, but show "Kuzkin's mother" and questions will disappear ...
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    9 February 2022 19: 29
    really three? but in my opinion all 11 + 1 ended up in a garbage pit. aviation made them garbage cans and only the reporter did not notice this
  25. 0
    9 February 2022 22: 57
    An Unacceptable Trade: How Three NATO Aircraft Carriers 'Trapped' in the Mediterranean. Powerfully stated, and what kind of cover for aircraft carriers, as always, is not taken into account ...
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    10 February 2022 06: 52
    The fact that there are many enemies does not mean that you need to kill all of them. Kick the hegemon and everything will turn out like a house of cards
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    10 February 2022 08: 16
    With all due respect, I don’t agree, this is more of a trap for the Russian fleet -75% (3 out of 4) attack combat-ready ships against 3 out of 11 AB, it’s not worth talking about Berks.
    In the event of the loss of 3 cruisers, the Russian fleet practically ceases to exist (Peter and Nakhimov will not be able to do anything and, as history shows, they will stick around in the bases like the Tigris at one time, at the same time, in the event of the loss of three ABs, the states will have another 7 + 1 in construction and complete freedom of movement.
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      14 February 2022 00: 54
      Yes, it doesn’t matter what carrier the rocket launches from, even from an RTO, even from a destroyer. The main thing is the presence of target designation, and I already remember there were quite successful precedents. so shot by us that only an ignorant person can talk about some kind of battles. Well, intercepting a rushing projectile is a lottery game, usually with the same result.
  28. 0
    14 February 2022 00: 48
    In exercises in 2020, the Americans were unable to intercept any of the three missiles, although they shone with a New Year's garland. And the characteristics of even old Soviet-made missiles will be cooler, so there will be no serious skirmish in the Mediterranean Sea. Yes, and from the Black Sea, it is also an option to deliver a surprise, since the available satellite target designation of the Mediterranean Sea is guaranteed to lead a missile with a deviation of a couple of meters from a moving target. Americans know this story very well and are not sure that there are suicides there.
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    12 March 2022 00: 45
    Now, when Russia and NATO are on the verge of direct conflict, all combat-ready units of the Eastern Military District have been deployed to the Ukrainian border, and the flagship of the Pacific Fleet is in the Mediterranean, the situation is developing exceptionally well for Japan.

    Complete nonsense!
    Only 10% of our Armed Forces are involved in the SVO. and Japan did not dare to attack even during the Second World War. Although then she had a much greater advantage in strength and technology.
    And, in fact, years of propaganda that drove the Japanese that it was the Russians who used the atomic bomb did not inspire their self-defense forces.
    So these are all big statements. America ordered and proud smuraya performed!)))

    At a minimum, we should expect large-scale military exercises from the Maritime Self-Defense Forces. The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation will have to respond to this by hastily returning the Varyag cruiser and the Admiral Tributs BOD back to the KTOF

    And this is generally nonsense,
    given that they will return after the end of the exercise. And why return them?
    It is enough to activate the Monolith radars on the Bal and Bastion coastal complexes - and all Japanese naval forces will draw such a figure eight that the Donald Cook will rust with envy)))