Myths about "Ukrainian partisans": why you shouldn't believe in them

Well, well, after talking about the true “power” and real prospects of the Ukrainian army, we will have to touch on the topic of that “nationwide resistance” that is being raved about in Kiev and which has been recently promoted with such irrepressible fervor in the West. We must pay tribute to these attempts - some people in Russia who wandered Zelensky with Yermak and praised from every second "iron" in the United States and Britain "territorial self-defense forces" hit a nerve and made them worry. Not worth it, the right word. Or rather, those lubok “agitation” that today roam the pages and screens of the Western media are not worth the excitement and experience - this is all pure fraud and lies.

In the event of a real operation by the Russian army to force Kiev to peace, the risks, dangers and challenges will have little in common with those virtual “neo-Bandera partisan detachments” that already excite someone’s imagination today. In fact, on the one hand, everything will be much easier, but on the other hand, it will be much more difficult. How exactly can events unfold and why in this way and not otherwise? Let's try to figure it out.

Who inflates the frenzy of "partisanism" and for what?

I'll start, as usual, with terminology and history. Well, I'm so corrosive - what can you do. Personally, the term "semi-guerrilla war" is somehow not entirely clear to me. Excuse me, how is this? Obviously, this refers to the army that has gone "into the forests and mountains" (there are not so many of both in Ukraine). Or rather, its remnants, reinforced and strengthened by "Svidomo hulks." The very ones who managed to pick up the basics of combat training in the classroom with instructors of therodefense and with wooden machine guns in their hands. Somehow I understand it to myself as “semi-partisan”. Now, regarding the comparison with the Patriotic War of 1812 ... The partisan movement of that time was not a “people's initiative”, but a strategic plan of the great Russian commanders - Barclay de Tolly, Bagration and, of course, Kutuzov himself. First of all, we remember and praise Denis Davydov - thanks to literature and cinema for that.

Categorically, one should not confuse with all this the spontaneously arising “on the ground” peasant detachments that defended their own villages and goods from the occupiers who turned into an ordinary gang of marauders. By the way, Davydov's detachment was repeatedly attacked by "colleagues" from the peasants, until they thought of taking off their uniforms and letting go of their beards. The peasants mercilessly beat everyone who wore a uniform ... Why this digression? Moreover, both in opposition to the horde of Bonaparte, and more than a century later - in the fight against the Nazi invaders and their allies, the partisan movement was effective solely because of the presence on the "Great Land" of the center leading the struggle and directing it. As well as supplying everything necessary and replenishing the ranks with professionals of the desired profile. In the event of a conflict with Ukraine, nothing of the kind will happen - the “center” will fly away beyond the cordon at hypersonic speed. If he has time.

As for the comparison with Grozny, it is even more inappropriate. A completely different people, faith, culture, psychology, and, let's say, the "starting conditions" of the confrontation. It's not even worth comparing here - because we are talking about things that are completely incomparable. I can state with all responsibility - those who actually scream about their readiness to "go to war with Putin" will not be typed in the territory now called Ukraine, and a few percent. At the same time, most of the screaming ones will give a screech at the first break somewhere near the horizon. Not to mention what will happen to them when the first bullet enters the body of the one standing next to them in the line. Very, you know, a characteristic sound is obtained in this case. Impressive... Photo shoots of "relentless fighters against Russian aggression" who today wander from The Times to The Sun, from Bloomberg to Voice of America (announced in Russia as a foreign agent), and from there to Deutsche Welle, which is one step away from receiving of this "honorary status", are nothing more than unambiguously staged shootings. In 99 cases out of 100. The same faces, the same fakes.

The “grandmother in a headscarf”, clutching a plywood Kalash, like her own grandson, turns out to be not a “migrant from Donbass”, but an official from the Kiev mayor’s office. Some girls in fitness pants and, again, with machine guns that they hold like frying pans ... This "extras" was either paid, or "sent" to the exercises forcibly. All this would be funny if it were not arranged (like any large-scale provocation of the West) with a double or even triple aim. Yes, the Americans and the British are trying their best to convince the local "People" of how real "aggression" is - since even grandmothers with children learn to "repel" it. But this information attack also has another addressee - a purely Russian one.

Everything will be completely different

It is the Russians, in the first place, those who, quite possibly, will have to enter the land of the current "non-detached" in military uniform to carry out a peacekeeping mission and restore order there, certain forces in the West must be assured that "they will be shot at from every window. That every local they meet on the way (it doesn’t matter if it’s a man, a woman, a child or an old woman) hates them, and they don’t just dream of killing, but they are even trained in this. I hope you don't need to explain why this is done? A soldier will behave completely differently in a territory where there are a certain number of enemies, but the vast majority are normal, who are waiting for help, and where 99% of the inhabitants who are thirsty for his blood are enemies. No need to "be led" to this Goebbels rotten stuff! If the citizens of the “nezalezhnaya” were such militant Russophobes as they want to be seen in Zelensky’s office and the Ministry of Defense, as they are being portrayed in the West, they would not have run tens of thousands from military conscription.

On the contrary, there would be queues at the military registration and enlistment offices. The presidential decree on the introduction of military registration for women would have caused general rejoicing in society, and not a wave of anger and obscene wishes addressed to its author. Yes, and "territorial defense", for that matter, would look somewhat different than a motley rabble of incomprehensible personalities who were either driven there or lured. I will not say that everyone here will meet Russian troops as liberators and deliverers of a nightmare that has dragged on for eight long years. Believe me, there are more of them than some people think. But, alas, not the majority. Otherwise, again, things would be different. However, in order to dream of “90% of Ukrainians” who voluntarily and with songs will run to the slaughter in a war completely alien to them personally, one must completely not know their mentality and psychological characteristics.

Adaptability and indifference - these are their two "cornerstones". Believe it or not, but in 2013-2014, when the “Maidan” was seething in the center of Kiev, its presence was felt at a maximum of 200-300 meters from the local “barricades”. Then a completely normal life began - with a wandering public, expensive cars and taverns. The country is falling apart! However, the inhabitants of a huge city of three million did not care. It didn't concern them personally at that time. The "stoned" rabble first gathered on the "Maidan", and then was transferred to the Donbass - from which, in fact, it all began. The trouble was that the "normal" looked at all this and kept quiet in a rag. They voted for Poroshenko, then for Zelensky... Such people will not “turn their own houses into fortified areas”. And trust me, you won't let anyone else do it.

The army (which in this case will scatter after the first hostilities, if not completely, then by half) will not be able to do anything without the support of the people. And it will not be - in accordance with a little-known Ukrainian proverb: “Batko squint, but I don’t. What the hell is mani?!” Believe me, this will be the simple “categorical imperative” of the absolute majority of Ukrainians. Study at least the history of the Civil War in these parts in order to understand that the Ukrainians, having played enough of “independence” and having eaten its “fruits” from the belly, subsequently chose the side of the one who could bring peace and tranquility, stop the mess and the Makhnovshchina. Well, and stronger, of course - how could it be without it. So it will be this time, no matter how different “mouthpieces” trumpet there. At the same time, of course, we are not talking about Galicia with its vile Bandera traditions. You just need to cut it off like a gangrenous limb - and forget it. That will be better for everyone.

And enemies ready to shoot in the back, sabotage and kill, of course, will. There will also be real gangs - close-knit and well-armed, attacking everyone and everyone. But not the remnants of army units. And flocks of “ATO veterans”, “Maidan activists” and other culprits of the current Ukrainian horror, who will really lose everything at the moment when the current regime, ideology, “state” finally collapse. They will lose all illegal privileges, social status, and, moreover, they will have to answer for what they have done in these eight years. But the most terrible threat will still not be them, but the great multitude of opportunists who, having repainted and feeling great after the “Maidan”, repaint again and rush to “build a new Ukraine”! So they shouldn't be given a single chance. And there should be no Ukraine either. Little Russia as part of the Union State - according to the recipe of Alexander Grigorievich. And this can be achieved without any mass repressions, without any "inhuman war" and other terrible horrors that CNN and Bloomberg dream about so much.

Let me give you a simple recipe. The Russian army does not need to interfere at all in all this. It is enough to find those to whom the "Maidan" in the most direct sense broke both their careers, their lives, and their fate. Former policemen, employees of state bodies, the military, thrown out of service by the “Maidan”. Passed in full humiliation, threats, bullying. Provide them with compensation payments for all this - from the funds seized from Poroshenko, Zelensky and others. Give a certain status, normal salaries and arm. They'll get better, trust me. The fighters of the peacekeeping forces will have to smoke in the cordon and make sure that they do not overdo it in the process of cleansing society from individual geeks. Although ... Is it necessary?
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  1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 8 February 2022 13: 46
    The first question is - Who will the Ukrainian partisans fight for? For Yatsenyuk, who stole and brought to the USA a billion dollars? For the villas of Poroshenko and other officials in Spain? Or will they fight for their miserable pensions? The land of Ukraine no longer belongs to the common people, it is allowed to sell it to those who have more money. And wealthy foreigners have more money. So let them partisan. Only it is unlikely that foreigners will run in the steppes of Ukraine in the form of partisan detachments, and there is no reason for ordinary Ukrainians to shed their blood and give their lives for a foreign land. In vain in Ukraine adopted a law on the sale of land.
    1. viktortarianik Offline viktortarianik
      viktortarianik (Victor) 8 February 2022 15: 05
      Not for whom, but against whom and what.
      1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
        Bulanov (Vladimir) 8 February 2022 15: 07
        Against the entry of Ukraine into the top ten most developed countries in Europe, as it was during the Ukrainian SSR?
        1. passing by Offline passing by
          passing by (passing by) 8 February 2022 16: 17
          did they go in there? Or did they help? pulled out of the mud by the ears, washed, fed, taught to read...
    2. Half a hundred second (Half a half second) 8 February 2022 23: 58
      Quote: Bulanov
      Who will Ukrainian partisans fight for?

      not for whom, but against whom. Against whom they (Ukrainian society) have been incited for many years?
      What would you fight for if we were attacked? So there - in Ukraine - we are presented as an aggressor. And they believe in it (not all, but still). Put yourself in their place (and you always have to do this in order to understand the enemy - otherwise you won’t win even the slightest battle) and you will understand a lot.

      It is not enough to talk from your own bell tower. The enemy does not know and does not understand your reasoning, but it is with him (the enemy), and not with himself, with the understanding, that he will fight.
  2. tulip Offline tulip
    tulip 8 February 2022 14: 19
    everything is written on the case, respect to the author !!
  3. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 8 February 2022 14: 35
    Again, idealistic reasoning "should, must not"
    There will be no partisans, because Putin promised not to invade ....

    And the rest ... naive
    Who will give money to some kind of mykit? Has anyone shared money from the Rostov inmate?
    from the Lugansk Head, who, according to the media, protected the supply of coal to Ukraine and humanitarian aid?
    from the oligarchs - the owners of coal and metallurgical enterprises (including Ukrainian ones)?

    there was no such news, only reverse ...
  4. sH, arK Offline sH, arK
    sH, arK 8 February 2022 15: 00
    Absolutely agree with the author! He himself wrote on this subject more than once - distinguish between grain and chaff! The history of Ukraine is an excellent example, first of all, of adaptability to all external influences! :-D
  5. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 8 February 2022 15: 03
    Eh. Through your mouth and drink honey, colleague. I could write another article, substantiating my position, but I probably won't. Let it be your way. Sincerely.
    1. tulip Offline tulip
      tulip 8 February 2022 15: 09
      your article on this topic really turned out to be too alarmist and pro-Bandera)))
  6. viktortarianik Offline viktortarianik
    viktortarianik (Victor) 8 February 2022 15: 12
    From a military point of view, it seems to be decided. But after what? Who and how will decide economic issues? In conditions when everything is sold and privatized? Is nationalization necessary? For example, approximately the same questions are facing the Taliban in Afghanistan.
    1. Half a hundred second (Half a half second) 8 February 2022 23: 54
      Quote: viktortarianik
      From a military point of view seems to be decided.

      who decided? How is it decided? Voice the decisions made (with links)?
  7. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 8 February 2022 15: 57
    Quote: Mikhail Alekseev
    your article on this topic really turned out to be too alarmist and pro-Bandera)))

    Normal article. Believe what you want.
    1. zloybond Offline zloybond
      zloybond (steppenwolf) 9 February 2022 16: 46
      The article is normal. BUT, it seems to me that all these videos on the news and photos in articles with wooden machine guns, over which the public neighs bravo, are directed precisely in order to create in the eyes of the public from the aggressor the image of the victim. Like, look, poorly armed people, with sticks, stood up to defend their homeland. But in fact there are enough weapons in the warehouses of Ukraine. But the lack is filmed on camera. But we seem to be a heavily armed aggressor now. Yes, and laughing with a fool without thinking what all this is for.
  8. Tixiy Offline Tixiy
    Tixiy (Tixiy) 8 February 2022 16: 36
    There is such a feature in Ukrainian patriots, the farther the patriot is from the Russian border (for example, in Portugal, the USA, Canada), the louder he shouts about resistance and partisans.
  9. tagil Offline tagil
    tagil (Sergei) 8 February 2022 17: 06
    Three Ukrainians, this is a partisan detachment with a traitor. In general, modern technical capabilities practically exclude a broad partisan movement. For the partisans will soon run out. And to refer to the Afghan and other Mujahideen is not worth it. The NATO crapcrats never had the task of destroying the so-called "hand partisans". But in Syria they are no more, only in settlements (underground), and even then they are almost over.
  10. Panikovsky Offline Panikovsky
    Panikovsky (Mikhail Samuelevich Panikovsky) 8 February 2022 20: 41
    Because it's nonsense and nonsense.
  11. Half a hundred second (Half a half second) 8 February 2022 23: 47
    in the West, it is imperative to assure that "they will be shot at from every window." That every local they meet on the way (it doesn’t matter if it’s a man, a woman, a child or an old woman) hates them, and not just dreams of killing

    Of course, one should not exaggerate, but one should also not forget that over 30 years of "independence" a whole generation (or even two) has been brought up there that openly hates Russia. It's hard for us to understand what brainwashing is. This person, in fact, is the same Slav who was INSPIRED AND WHO SINCERELY BELIEVE IN IT that "they came to enslave his Motherland." How will he act? What would you do if your homeland was in danger? And after all, he believes that this is true, that the Motherland is in danger, in fact! This is what few of us understand.

    Even 2014 and now are two huge differences. And "partisanism" should not be discounted. My opinion is that it is easier to deal with regular units (AFU) than with these irregular formations - if they have time to turn around. The guerrilla war proved its worth, both during the Second World War and in the post-Soviet space - if it is competently organized. And there is someone to organize there (at least those who served in the SA), and even if there are partisan fanatics .... Let us recall at least the same Afghanistan - there we were also opposed by a non-regular army, although the example is not entirely correct.

    And yes, run around with wooden machine guns... and what difference does it make to you with which machine gun you work out techniques and tactics? Did any of you run through the forest with a real machine gun on the NVP ??? metal real grenades? Plastic machine gun running and tactical knowledge is not a hindrance, you know.

    In general, Russia should not "invade" Ukraine. We will then be accused of all mortal sins. And first of all - the population, it will not make out who is right and wrong, why there is no gas, water, food, and why the husband / brother was killed. In this way, we will only get a society that openly hates us, and the more haters there will be, the more protracted the conflict will be - and this is exactly what the "hulks" are being prepared for, everyone understands that the Armed Forces of Ukraine will not last even a week in open confrontation. Or to carry out the operation very - very quickly - and as bloodlessly as possible, in fact, in the way coups d'etat do beautifully. So that no one understands anything, and whoever decides to rock the boat would already be too late. Can they do that?

    I understand that urry-patriotism is ahead of reason, you need to pump it up somehow, but why? After all, if you figure it out, we - the Slavs - will go to kill the same Slavs, even though they are already "not quite ours" - and to please whom? USA and Britain. Those. will we do the work for them with our own hands?

    For me, so it’s better to solve everything bloodlessly - albeit not so effectively, but effectively. Not the way London and Washington want (they are the ones who set us on the slaughter)but in a way that meets the interests of our peoples. Indeed, there are still many in Ukraine who are against the authorities there and do not want war with us. Why fight with them?
  12. Half a hundred second (Half a half second) 9 February 2022 00: 05
    Now, if everything is so simple in Ukraine, and we are supported by the majority, why not do the same - throw the cry: "You have been armed. You have been trained. Now rise up against the government you hate, liberate yourself, we will help you." And everyone, let them do what they must. Why doesn't it work?
    1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
      Bulanov (Vladimir) 9 February 2022 14: 24
      Because this requires Pavel Sudoplatov.
  13. i232323b Offline i232323b
    i232323b (Igor) 9 February 2022 07: 24
    People always defend their country.
  14. Yuri Neupokoev Offline Yuri Neupokoev
    Yuri Neupokoev (Yuri Neupokoev) 9 February 2022 14: 06
    Unfortunately, Banderism (essentially small-town ragulism, incapable of creation) was, is and will be. At one time they were not completely eradicated (Khrushchev ???). It grew more and more, and now, a miracle: the impudent Saxons took advantage of this (they are masters of this, which is already).
    In 1991, the Ukrainian SSR had one of the most powerful scientific, intellectual, cultural, industrial ... potentials in Europe. And what did these "Skauas" turn all this into? You can't build anything on hatred... You have to take into account the interests of the countries that surround you. Nezalezhnye still rely on impudent Saxons, but in vain. For the Russian Federation, an independent Ukraine is needed, freed from the Bandera and Saxon veil. All is not lost yet, but the process will be long and difficult.
  15. oberon2000oberon (Evgeny Tikhonov) 10 February 2022 12: 13
    It's easy to pretend to be a hero with a wooden machine gun, knowing that no one will actually attack. In any case, to seize lands teeming with aggressive parasites. Here is a good way to let the ukram bleed, as they gnawed at one time, it would be useful.
  16. Guest throat bone 10 February 2022 20: 26
    “Two Ukrainians are a partisan detachment. Three is a partisan detachment with a traitor."