US Refusal to Give Russia Security Guarantees Forces Putin to Engage Plan B


Epigraph: "The one who shoots last laughs well!" (own observation)


So we have returned from last year's events that shook the world to this day and we can analyze what kind of trump cards the Kremlin has in its hands. After all, no matter how outrageous Moscow’s demands are, we all (including the West) understand that in case of refusal to satisfy them, shoot at the White House with “Caliber” or "Zircons"no one will, as well as shoot down their satellites and spaceplanes in near space with our new antimissiles. And then how else can we threaten the Swede, i.e. yankees? After all, to threaten with plan "B" and not fulfill it for the Kremlin will be even worse than simply getting a refusal on all the declared positions. This is a moral humiliation, compare it to another loss in the Cold War. If in 1991 we simply destroyed our own country to please the West, now we still risk accompanying this action with public self-flagellation “face on a stool”. Moreover, we brought this stool to ourselves. Putin runs the risk of breaking his own rule - "the kid said, the kid did!". Why would he put himself up like that? This means that such an alignment is definitely not included in the plans of the Kremlin. What then?

The Kremlin's plans: Either an agreement or war. There are no other options!


To understand this, you need to initially figure out what options the Kremlin had in general. And oddly enough, there were only two options. First, let's call it plan "A" - Washington accepts and fulfills our conditions, naturally with the preservation of its own face. Such an undercover agreement, which could include - firstly, the transfer of Ukraine to the zone of responsibility of the Russian Federation, with all the ensuing consequences, including its neutral status (by pushing the implementation of Minsk-2 by the States). And, secondly, it was supposed to contain a guarantee of non-deployment of US strike missiles on the territory of buffer states with the Russian Federation, including Romania and Poland, while possibly maintaining their status as NATO member countries. What Russia should have offered in return, I don't even know. Rejection of the alliance with China? Is not a fact! Agree, the conditions initially seem impossible. Only a direct and obvious threat from the Russian Federation could force Washington to comply with them, but, as we have considered earlier, we do not have such arguments that we could apply without bringing the matter to the Third World War.

This means that plan “A” disappears, and plan “B” remains - forceful coercion of the United States to peace by exclusively conventional methods, for which a platform is chosen on the territory of third countries (except Ukraine), painful for the United States, where a forceful demonstrative action is held and all power is demonstrated Russian weapons. Demonstrative public humiliation, otherwise the "partners" do not understand. So to speak, educational and demonstrative flogging of the hegemon. Yes, so that the dust falls down, and it becomes finally clear that: either it will be our way, or it will still be our way. The place for the action could presumably be Syria, where the comrades of the Americans obviously sat too long (and in the most oil-bearing province), not having the permission of not only President Assad, whom they didn’t care about, but even the flimsy UN Security Council. Although no one really knows where this flogging will be carried out and what weapons will be used, all the hysteria that will follow suggests that these fears of the West are by no means groundless. He is trying in every possible way to use Ukraine as a possible platform, but he is not doing well, because both participants in a possible conflict - both Kiev and Moscow - do not want this. And how can you unleash a war if its main participants do not come to it? The Kremlin does not include this at all in his plans, and Zelensky is far from being a suicide (although he is being strongly pushed towards this).

The starting point for the implementation of plan "B" should be the receipt of an official written refusal from the United States and NATO to provide us with guarantees of our security. After that, the hands of the Kremlin will be untied. In fact, obtaining a written refusal was the main goal of the Kremlin's demarche, which it undertook at the end of last year. Putin himself chose the place and time of this action, thus seizing the strategic initiative from the West and imposing his agenda on it. Now the Kremlin is playing number one, and the West is working on its agenda, trying to delay the process as much as possible, realizing that it has become a hostage of someone else's game, and a pre-prepared trap awaits around the corner.

"War is the continuation of politics by other means." (Carl von Clausewitz)


Epigraph: "Policy there is a continuation of the war by other means ”(V.V. Putin)

What kind of trap no one knows, but I would draw your attention to a few disparate facts that in themselves mean nothing, but if you put them together, then a certain picture emerges that is not at all rosy for the United States. The first fact is that on January 21, the large-scale naval exercises CHIRU-2022 ended in the Gulf of Oman, in which the navies of three countries took part: Iran, China and the Russian Federation (this is their third joint naval exercise since 2019). From the Iranian side, 11 ships took part in them, including the ships of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, from the Chinese side - two ships and from the Russian side - three ships, including the flagship of the Pacific Fleet, the Varyag guards missile cruiser, the Admiral Tributs large anti-submarine ship and large sea tanker "Boris Butoma".

Two days earlier, on January 19, newly elected Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi paid an official two-day visit to Moscow. This was his first foreign visit as president of the country. Not surprisingly, he chose the capital of the Russian Federation for this, where he had a meeting with Vladimir Putin, where they discussed the purchase by Iran of a large batch of Russian weapons totaling over $10 billion (including 24 Su-35 fighters and two S-batteries). 400), participation of the Russian Federation in the construction of a nuclear power plant in Bushehr and a number of other issues, among which was the draft Agreement on strategic cooperation between our countries for a period of 20 years. The next day, Ebrahim Raisi personally spoke at a meeting of the State Duma, where from the rostrum of the Russian parliament he “predicted the death of NATO” (this is a direct quote).

How close he is to the truth will become clear very soon (I mean the talks at the level of top officials in Beijing). But you yourself understand that such events do not just happen. And if one military alliance arises, I mean the newly created AUKUS, then why not another military alliance arise? And Vladimir Putin's recent calls to Venezuela, Cuba and Nicaragua then take on a completely different meaning. Then it becomes clear why he needed a written refusal by the United States to provide guarantees of our security, where they violate the principle of its indivisibility. If the United States can provide its security at the expense of the security of other countries, then why can't other countries at the expense of the security of the United States?

This is also understood in Washington. Therefore, they try in every possible way to sweeten the pill. Both official responses from Washington and Brussels submitted to the Russian Foreign Ministry, as we expected, contained a refusal to comply with our demands. But, if the US response, according to Lavrov, was sustained in the spirit of the best traditions of international diplomacy, then NATO's response was a set of ideological cliches 30 years ago, as if nothing had changed in the world during this time. We will not lament over this, since the authors of these masterpieces of the epistolary genre are sitting in the same office overlooking the Potomac. Therefore, by simple reasoning, one can come to a simple logical conclusion that Washington is trying to play a trivial mise-en-scene with a good and bad policeman in front of us, offering to negotiate with him rather than with Brussels. We don't really mind. Only about what?

Bifurcation point


And here the most interesting begins. As a counter move, the States offer us to resume negotiations on the INF Treaty, from which they withdrew in 2019 through the efforts of Trump, to limit the number of NATO exercises near our borders, to the extent of removing them altogether from territories that cause our concern, to limit reconnaissance aviation flights and the minimum possible approach distances of our warships in the World Ocean. All this is good. And all this suits us. Especially the signing of the INF Treaty, which covers the winged "Tomahawks", which hypothetically could appear on the missile defense bases in Romania and Poland. But the main thing is that the requirement is not met. The threat of NATO's eastward advance remains. Maybe our concerns are removed in the closed part of the US response, which they urge not to publish?

Here comes the moment of truth. Or a bifurcation point. On it we will determine what awaits us next. If Plan A is the fruit of our fantasies, and there is no agreement between Biden and Putin, then the Kremlin will publish the closed part of the US response and proceed with the implementation of the long-cherished Plan B to force the States to peace. The trigger for it will just serve publicizing the US response. If there is an agreement, then the Kremlin will not publish anything, and the trigger here will be Kiev's implementation of the Minsk agreements. No wonder Yermak, after negotiations with Kozak, took 14 days for reflection. In 14 days, Putin will meet with Comrade. Xi, and everything for the implementation of plan "B" in the event that Minsk-2 is not implemented, the Kremlin will be ready. Although Biden, deliberately trying to delay this process, took Zelensky three months to implement the Minsk agreements. This became known from their telephone conversation on January 27, during which Biden presented Zelensky with his main argument - the offshore accounts of his first assistants Shefir and Tymoshenko, after which the pianist fell into a sad thoughtfulness.

War is nonsense, the main thing is maneuvers


I don't know if you noticed, but there is an unprecedented concentration of forces at sea, on land and in the air at the moment. Significant contingents of troops even from the Eastern Military District, including the 10th separate brigade of marines of the Pacific Fleet, two divisions of the S-2022 Triumph air defense system, a division of the Pantsir-S155 air defense missile system, the Iskander-M OTRK brigade, 400 Su-1S fighters, 12 Su-35SM attack aircraft, not counting other cannon and rocket artillery. Russian S-11s, deployed along the front, firmly closed the sky over the entire territory of Nezalezhnaya. No one is going to attack her, but just in case, so as not to indulge. And why should she indulge when only on January 25 did the exercises of the Western Military District end, which took place at the training grounds of the Belgorod, Voronezh, Smolensk and Bryansk regions, where about 400 thousand military personnel and about three hundred combat units took part equipment, including the Iskander-M.

On February 3, large naval exercises began with the forces of the Northern and Baltic Fleets in the northeast Atlantic off the coast of Great Britain. The missile cruiser "Marshal Ustinov" (project 1164 "Atlant"), the multi-purpose frigate URO "Admiral Kasatonov" (project 22350), the large anti-submarine ship (BPK) "Vice-Admiral Kulakov" (project 1155) and a medium sea tanker take part in them "Vyazma" (project REF-675), representing the Northern Fleet, as well as two URO corvettes from the Baltic "Resistant" and "Savvy" (project 20380). The exercises, during which rocket firing and bombing by the forces of the Aerospace Forces are planned, will last until February 8. The exercise area is closed to all ships and aircraft for 5 days.

In addition, the Russian Defense Ministry warned that from January to February inclusive, large-scale exercises will be held around the world "in all areas of responsibility" of the Russian Navy by the forces of all 4 fleets of the Russian Federation, in which 140 ships, more than 60 aircraft, 1 thousand units of military equipment and about 10 thousand soldiers and sailors. Separate exercises will be held in the Mediterranean, North and Okhotsk Seas, in the Pacific Ocean and in the northeastern part of the Atlantic. I have already spoken about the exercises in the Gulf of Oman, which took place from January 18 to 22 with the participation of the Chinese and Iranian navies and three ships of the Pacific Fleet. All the ships of all fleets declared for the exercises are already at sea, almost no one is left at the bases, including Vilyuchinsk - the base of SSBNs and SSBNs of the Pacific Fleet. Putin is all set! It hasn't been like this for a long time. From the war. The implementation of plan "B" can only be canceled by the implementation of plan "A".

In fact, the States are not even sitting on a twine, but on a Roman chair - there is also Comrade. Xi pulls them in one place. And Biden's pants are not rubber! They can break. And in the most inappropriate place.

As events unfold, I will keep you updated. Because the scenario I have described is not final, the players involved in it make their own adjustments, and we are just spectators of this performance and plan “B” will most likely not be limited, other options are possible (Biden has already 18 of them!) . And in the next text, I will talk about Putin's plan "C", which generally completely breaks plan "B", which we were trying to draw here.
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  1. Bahadur Offline Bahadur
    Bahadur (Stanislas) 6 February 2022 18: 45
    +16
    Hmmm ...
    As the lover of "Russian" cognac, the Duke of MalbarA used to say (I write from memory):
    The art of politics is to predict future events and then explain why they didn't happen.
    1. alexneg13 Offline alexneg13
      alexneg13 (Alexander) 6 February 2022 21: 09
      +6
      One thing is clear, if the United States rock the boat, they will be left without "ears", without "eyes" and still without Syrian oil, which means the krants of the entire military of the West. So Russia will get a positive profit from its demand anyway. As a result, Sharkhan will look like a scorched cat. This parasitic formation must receive its punishment for the troubles that this nasty gang has caused to the inhabitants of Planet Earth.
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      2. svetlanavradiy Offline svetlanavradiy
        svetlanavradiy (Svetlana Vradiy) April 27 2022 20: 17
        0
        I subscribe to your every word.
    2. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 6 February 2022 22: 22
      +4
      it's not evening yet! Toko's banquet begins, I'm just sorting through all the possible options, discarding the bad ones ... and you can't wait to fire missiles at the White House? the better the actor, the longer he can pause! Putin's silence is more terrible than his words ... by the way, neither he nor I have laid out their main argument yet ... and only those who do nothing are not mistaken
      1. Lana martinkevich (Lana Martinkevich) 7 February 2022 08: 11
        -13
        Ahaha, Putin’s silence is more terrible than his words. - Petrosyan is resting, it would be better if he was silent at all, otherwise Orban was carrying such nonsense, demonstrating the inadequacy of his policy, Putin praised Hungary for a long time, telling how relations between Hungary and the Russian Federation were developing dynamically, and then carried the usual nonsense about the insidious NATO and the threat of expanding the Alliance - he began to complain about NATO to the leader of Hungary, which is part of NATO. Putin invited Orban to Moscow, spoke for a long time about cooperation, and then declares his country a threat and tells how Moscow is going to fight NATO, or is Hungary part of some other NATO? Why do some NATO countries pose a threat to the Russian Federation, according to Putin, but Hungary does not, although a member of NATO and this does not prevent Putin from cooperating with it. In general, Putin simultaneously receives the leader of the NATO country, praises him and at the same time says that NATO is a threat and it must be fought and resisted - and he issued all this at the same time - here is an ultimatum to NATO and immediately cooperation with the NATO country.
        1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
          Volkonsky (Vladimir) 7 February 2022 23: 13
          +5
          madam, take care of agriculture better, politics, especially geopolitics, is not yours! there in the garden there are still so many wonderful discoveries for you, the spirit of enlightenment is preparing ...
        2. Stanislav Rumba Offline Stanislav Rumba
          Stanislav Rumba (Stanislav Rumba) 7 February 2022 23: 25
          +2
          Lana, you should put plantain on your brain... then urgently to a psychiatrist....☝️
          1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
            Volkonsky (Vladimir) 7 February 2022 23: 52
            +2
            in my opinion, she was already banned, she lasted an hour after registration - this is a record! (I finally don’t follow, the boys are talking in the chat)
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  2. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 6 February 2022 20: 00
    -3
    Right.
    They explained why the West would drift, and how everything went wrong, they immediately announced plan B (telepathically overheard in the Kremlin), at the same time plan C was announced, if it goes awry here too.

    And there D, E, G, F and beyond - hinted ...

    Well, as always: hitting Biden's pants, when they say they burst ...

    P.S. And the media are all waiting for blood and war, half of the news is in anticipation ....
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 6 February 2022 22: 24
      +3
      and what went wrong? so far so good! waiting for the continuation of the banquet
      he who shoots last laughs best! (With)
      1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
        Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 6 February 2022 23: 06
        -6
        Right! A hint is given for 18 letters of plans, you can always like Stirlitz ....
        1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
          Volkonsky (Vladimir) 6 February 2022 23: 50
          +1
          what went wrong?
          1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
            Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 7 February 2022 00: 25
            -1
            According to plan B - we are waiting, according to your article
            According to plan A - they sent them away, according to various articles ...
            For some reason, according to the plans of the English-speaking C (which is suspicious), and the rest - we are waiting for "Plan B to be completely broken,"
            1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
              Volkonsky (Vladimir) 7 February 2022 01: 41
              +4
              sent? didn't mix anything up?
              I’m even too lazy to list how they sent us, starting with the INF Treaty and ending with inspections of NATO bases
              They already agree not to place Tomahawks in Romania and Poland, and we haven't even started haggling yet.
              1. Lana martinkevich (Lana Martinkevich) 7 February 2022 07: 03
                -10
                They sent you with the expansion of NATO, but Lavrov still does not calm down and demands explanations, is he a masochist or something? After Ryabkov's boorish statement to collect money, Russian diplomats in the United States began to collect money, my God, how these poor things sobbed, clearly not wanting to go to the braces.
                1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
                  Volkonsky (Vladimir) 7 February 2022 07: 43
                  +12
                  madam, for the sake of such deep thoughts it was not worth registering, I hope the old Biden will take you into account in his will
                2. Cat Pravdorub Offline Cat Pravdorub
                  Cat Pravdorub (Maksim) 7 February 2022 15: 57
                  +2
                  Stop pandering to Biden. It's disgusting to read your nonsense.
              2. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
                Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 7 February 2022 09: 12
                -6
                There was also an article here where, in other words, more diplomatically, they explained this ...
              3. Muscool Offline Muscool
                Muscool (Glory) 7 February 2022 12: 34
                -11
                And what about the tomahawks of the Romanians and Poles? if Pskov can be fired from Estonia with conventional howitzers.
      2. Binder Offline Binder
        Binder (Miron) 7 February 2022 00: 20
        -12
        Dear, have you ever fired anything more formidable than a slingshot? I think not, otherwise they would not have written:

        Quote: Volkonsky
        he who shoots last laughs best!

        Everything is exactly the opposite - whoever shoots first is the last to laugh. laughing
        1. isofat Offline isofat
          isofat (isofat) 7 February 2022 01: 00
          +4
          slingshot lover, Binduzhnik. The one who hits his opponent with a shot does not necessarily shoot first, but always last.

          Try to understand this if you want to become a slingshot pro. laughing
          1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
            Volkonsky (Vladimir) 7 February 2022 01: 32
            +3
            he has one gyrus and that one from a slingshot - he can’t understand this passage
            1. alexneg13 Offline alexneg13
              alexneg13 (Alexander) 7 February 2022 07: 59
              +9
              Duc, they only know how to shoot from a slingshot ... and then at the unarmed.
  3. Rinat Offline Rinat
    Rinat (Rinat) 6 February 2022 20: 19
    +3
    US Refusal to Give Russia Security Guarantees Forces Putin to Engage Plan B

    This is bullshit.

    The US refusal to give Russia security guarantees was planned by Putin in order to activate Plan A.
    This plan consists of many points of unconditional implementation.
    And they are already being implemented in parallel. If in the West they rock the boat, they will receive a commensurate answer.
    We will avoid blood, but if it is necessary to respond proportionately, then they will lose exactly as much as necessary to implement plan "A".
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 6 February 2022 22: 25
      +1
      How is your plan A different from my plan B? just a letter?
      1. isofat Offline isofat
        isofat (isofat) 6 February 2022 23: 19
        0
        Vladimir, good evening. You have a decent letter for your plan, didn't you find it?
        1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
          Volkonsky (Vladimir) 6 February 2022 23: 52
          +1
          there it was possible to use the Latin letter B, but it intersects with our B - ABV and ABC, as Comrade said. Stalin - I have no other letters for you!
          1. isofat Offline isofat
            isofat (isofat) 7 February 2022 00: 02
            +1
            You can use the Chinese character - 有 to disorient the enemy. Plan will get . bully
  4. Siegfried Offline Siegfried
    Siegfried (Gennady) 6 February 2022 21: 38
    +5
    Plan A is unlikely to imply US acceptance of Russian demands. Such an option was hardly considered at all. Plan A is now in effect, until the United States makes a decision - to try to ignite a conflict in the Donbass or force Kiev to comply with Minsk 2, framing all this as their diplomatic victory, they say they forced evil Russia to retreat. Unfortunately, the second solution is not very profitable for them, because. Do not shine tens and hundreds of billions of dollars on the sale of LNG to Europe, do not shine unlimited dominance over Europe within the framework of the Cold War. When the Kiev regime finally flies into the tree without wearing a seat belt, it will also be a resounding defeat for the West - the country that has embarked on the path to the Western world has gone bankrupt.
    On the other hand, the first option is so risky that the United States itself can inject into the tree. It would be better to choose the second option, the game is just beginning. It's not even about the capabilities of the United States and allies. The context of the conflict is not suitable for the beginning of the acute phase of the confrontation. It turns out that the United States is unleashing and, through fakes, setting fire to the conflict, plunging the world into a crisis. This may cause protest in the United States itself and a split with the allies. Now, if something unequivocal had turned up, where Russia would have been unequivocally an aggressor, a source of conflict, then mobilization in the US and Europe themselves would have gone smoothly, it would have been clear who is bad and who is good. And now the US looks more like bad boys and the bigger the crisis, the bigger the protest and split in their camp.
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 6 February 2022 22: 28
      +6
      Amerovo LNG is a myth! all capacities are contracted for 10 years ahead, there is no free gas in nature, there is simply nothing to replace the falling 175 billion Russian gas, let the Europeans think with their heads, and not with their asses, before taking sanctions
      1. Alex Orlov Offline Alex Orlov
        Alex Orlov (Alex) 8 February 2022 18: 12
        0
        there is no free gas in nature

        Well, they seem to have already asked Japan, India, China and, it seems, South Korea to reduce their appetites and buy less. And then, you see, Europe is not enough))) Well, Qatar is not particularly opposed to redirecting its gas to Europeans. But, as always, there are nuances. Such demands were rolled out to them that Europe either swallow or spit it out. There is no other way)))
        1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
          Volkonsky (Vladimir) 8 February 2022 23: 11
          0
          where did China, Japan, India get gas from? they buy it themselves! curb appetite, are you serious? Qatar has no excess gas, field development is not a task of one year or two
          1. Alex Orlov Offline Alex Orlov
            Alex Orlov (Alex) 11 February 2022 22: 05
            +1
            where did China, Japan, India get gas from? they buy it themselves!

            I talked about this. They asked them not to buy too much. Left for Europe)) Recently, I heard that Japan seems to have given them a little bit of gas.
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  5. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
    Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 6 February 2022 21: 52
    -7
    At least old Biden started to sleep. And then, according to the author, all the Zircons prevented him from sleeping.
    Meanwhile, three weeks have passed since the expiration of the ultimatum.
    1. alexneg13 Offline alexneg13
      alexneg13 (Alexander) 6 February 2022 23: 24
      +1
      until the end of the Paralympic Games, i.e. Until the end of March, nothing significant will come from Russia. Well, then we will see what kind of surprise the Kremlin has prepared.
      1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 7 February 2022 00: 35
        -7
        Ahh ... That is, senior comrades from China asked not to spoil their holiday, and Vladimir Vladimirovich could not refuse.
        1. alexneg13 Offline alexneg13
          alexneg13 (Alexander) 7 February 2022 02: 18
          +3
          It’s only in your inflamed mind that this could have arisen, but the fact that the Kremlin was not going to, and is not going to spoil the sports festival, you don’t even allow the thought. They've completely lost their minds. Stop thinking in your lower hemispheres and being a prisoner of the Google litter. The mentality of the trolls is already below the plinth.
          1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
            Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 7 February 2022 09: 08
            -7
            Quote: isofat
            The dumber a person, the faster he condescends to insults.

            What should I talk about with a stupid person?
            1. isofat Offline isofat
              isofat (isofat) 7 February 2022 09: 28
              -2
              Oleg, for some reason you decided that this does not concern you and you can demonstrate your condition. laughing
            2. alexneg13 Offline alexneg13
              alexneg13 (Alexander) 7 February 2022 10: 45
              +3
              No need to write stupid comments and pass for smart. By the way, you call a person stupid who develops and implements automated process control systems with artificial intelligence.
        2. alexneg13 Offline alexneg13
          alexneg13 (Alexander) 7 February 2022 08: 07
          +4
          Yeah, the trolls have already turned into cheap minuses, that's all there is to it. Trolls-cockroaches, slipper is not enough for you. And what will you do when the owner of your fornication stops talking?
        3. Stanislav Rumba Offline Stanislav Rumba
          Stanislav Rumba (Stanislav Rumba) 7 February 2022 23: 36
          +2
          Oleg, well, you are really Dumb ....!! You already wrote it...
          During the Olympics and a week after, all guns must be silent...!!!
          1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
            Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 7 February 2022 23: 47
            -3
            I can only repeat the popular expression of the respected isofatif the peculiarities of your development do not allow you to understand the first time

            Quote: isofat
            The dumber a person, the faster he condescends to insults.

            Do not add or subtract. For you, for sure.
          2. isofat Offline isofat
            isofat (isofat) 8 February 2022 00: 05
            -2
            Stanislav RumbaI was about to say Oleg about this property of his, you are ahead of me. Thank you. yes
    2. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 6 February 2022 23: 45
      -1
      Quote: Oleg Rambover
      Meanwhile, three weeks have passed since the expiration of the ultimatum.

      Oleg, do not fool people's heads, from what the moment of expiration, What are you about? The ultimatum has not even been announced yet. Maybe later, who knows. laughing
  6. Bahadur Offline Bahadur
    Bahadur (Stanislas) 6 February 2022 22: 22
    0
    This is the real operation "Unthinkable"
    (Although Here it is clear that some commentators still do not believe in this):
    Approximately 5-century fight west/east, sea/land, Germans/Slavs ends.
    The Russian bear brings down the golden calf of n-owls.
    It is a fact.
    Whether the final touche will be made at point B or even Z = there is no difference because time is on our side.
    ... "And the strength is in Truth, Brother" ...
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 6 February 2022 22: 37
      +1
      aerobatics - achieve your goal without a single shot (as in the Crimea)
      Biden has already compromised and we haven't even fired yet.
      What happens when we start shooting? but let's start!
      1. isofat Offline isofat
        isofat (isofat) 6 February 2022 23: 51
        -1
        You can not or do not want to demonstrate aerobatics?
        1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
          Volkonsky (Vladimir) 6 February 2022 23: 56
          +4
          the threat of use sometimes acts worse than the use itself, Putin knows how to correctly and threateningly remain silent
      2. Binder Offline Binder
        Binder (Miron) 7 February 2022 00: 30
        -7
        Quote: Volkonsky
        Biden has already compromised

        What are you talking about? Did the Americans recognize Crimea as Russian, promised not to expand NATO, turned off their bases in Eastern Europe? Everything is exactly the opposite - there is not the slightest sign that the West is ready to fulfill Russian demands, even in the most minimal way.
        1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
          Volkonsky (Vladimir) 7 February 2022 01: 30
          +7
          I’m even too lazy to list them for you, starting with the INF Treaty and ending with inspections of NATO bases, they already agree not to place Tomahawks in Romania and Poland, and we have not even begun to bargain
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  7. Bahadur Offline Bahadur
    Bahadur (Stanislas) 6 February 2022 22: 48
    -2
    Quote: Volkonsky
    aerobatics - achieve your goal without a single shot (as in the Crimea)
    Biden has already compromised and we haven't even fired yet.
    What happens when we start shooting? but let's start!

    And so it is necessary to start small, small, if the American buffalo has already begun to gray * tsya))).
    The Commander-in-Chief has a lot of options, but there is no need to hesitate.
    Water Carthage should be destroyed, and the right to wear the Roman Eagle should be only on the flag of Russia.
    Patria nostra Ruthenia est magna terra!
  8. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 7 February 2022 00: 00
    -1
    The only thing that the Russian Federation can do at least something after the failure of the attempt to take the West “in fear” is to place nuclear weapons in Belarus and on ships in Tartus, but this does not correspond to the scale of the ultimatum presented and the possible response actions of the United States and NATO.
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 7 February 2022 00: 31
      +2
      Jacques sekavar. There was no such attempt, Vladimir Putin is not an adventurer. You misunderstand the current situation.

      It seems to me that they want to convince the "West" not to use the mechanism of world wars to get out of the global crisis. The mechanism is proven, but today it is disastrous.
    2. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 7 February 2022 01: 39
      +4
      and what for nuclear weapons in Belarus and SAR? I wrote that this does not change the essence of the matter in any way, ICBMs do not care where to fly from, from the Republic of Belarus or the Russian Federation, 100 km for ICBMs does not change anything, it flies through the North Pole, and not across the Atlantic
      Nuclear weapons in the SAR - this is finally nonsense!
  9. Archangel Offline Archangel
    Archangel (Denis) 7 February 2022 02: 22
    +2
    Will we squeeze the US out of Syria?
  10. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 7 February 2022 04: 01
    -1
    The further, the more meaningless texts.
    The author at first hoped to intrigue the reader by the fact that he had cleared the chip, Putin's plans. I was hoping to drag out the series of articles until events happen. To say later - that's what I told you about.
    But the events do not occur and the author no longer knows what to write about. But the author knows many letters and even words, and therefore continues to write sentences and post articles.
    Having gone through all the delusional and semi-delusional versions of how he and Putin will allegedly force the United States and NATO to peace, the author did not stop. Now he decided to just write about plans A, B, C, D, and so on. Well, what - then he will write that Putin fulfilled plan D No. 163, as the author suggested.
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 7 February 2022 05: 23
      +5
      in principle, you don’t even have to read, because you yourself know everything in advance, how with such a mind and not in the Kremlin? and judging by the time of broadcast, very far from the Kremlin
      my last name is not Globa, I don’t do predictions, I just analyze the facts and draw conclusions, if you don’t like them, I suggest you just don’t read, refrain from giving advice on what to do to me, and even more so, don’t try to speak for me

      if you are so smart and in demand, why are you writing in the margins of my texts? take paper - write your own, at the same time find out what readers think of you

      even faulty clocks show the correct time twice a day
  11. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 7 February 2022 04: 12
    0
    I have been writing about the war on the territory of the former Ukraine for a long time.
    Those who closely follow my predictions know that I am rarely wrong. winked
    So. I can say quite definitely what will happen in the future.

    A) Russia recognizes the DNR and LNR.
    B) Russia will conclude a military alliance with the DNR and LNR.
    C) The DPR and LPR will issue an ultimatum to the former Ukraine, demanding that the territories of the DPR and LPR be liberated from occupation within the next three days.

    If the former Ukraine obeys, then this will end in the near future.
    If not, then there will be a war and the losses of the territories of the former Ukraine will be much greater.
    Up to the complete abolition of the Bandera state.

    Yes, I know that the idea of ​​a war between Russia and the former Ukraine is extremely unpopular.
    Most are waiting for an abstract spanking of the Americans, but at the same time that there should be no war with them. And these dreamers do not want to receive sanctions. About that, the security of Russia will not improve, the dreamers are silent. An exemplary humiliation of the USA and NATO, and so that we get nothing for it. That's what teenagers of all ages dream about.
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 7 February 2022 05: 30
      +3
      Those who closely follow my predictions know that I am rarely wrong winked

      and this is said by a person who registered here 17 days ago

      A) Russia recognizes the DNR and LNR.

      for this to happen, Ukraine must officially withdraw from Minsk-2, it has three more days for this, February 10 expires 14 days taken by Yermak for reflection
    2. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 7 February 2022 06: 29
      +2
      I have been writing about the war on the territory of the former Ukraine for a long time.
      Those who closely follow my predictions know that I am rarely wrong winked

      Less pathos.
      1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 7 February 2022 06: 31
        0
        This is not pathos. It's irony.
        Relax, I'm not your competitor))).
        1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 7 February 2022 10: 06
          -3
          I know that you are not my competitor. smile And I don't stress. hi
    3. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 7 February 2022 21: 36
      -3
      Another HPP? If all this had been carried out without a stupid ultimatum, the sanctions response after the fact would have been much softer. Now the West has announced hellish sanctions, and in the event of an escalation of the situation, it will be difficult for him to soften them.
      In any case, it would be a very expensive adventure for the Russian Federation.
      22.02 is it timed to coincide with the end of the Olympiad? The Paralympics ends on March 13.03, I don't think China would be happy.
      PS For any normal person, Russia's war with Ukraine (and not only with Ukraine) cannot cause delight.
      1. isofat Offline isofat
        isofat (isofat) 8 February 2022 00: 20
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        Oleg Rambover. The "West" itself came up with this ultimatum when it was offered to fulfill the promise. smile
  12. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 7 February 2022 04: 38
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    I forgot to write about the dates.
    Recognition - presumably 21.02.22. Military treaty - on the same day.
    Ultimatum - 22.02.22/XNUMX/XNUMX. By the way, a beautiful date - five deuces of the former Ukraine.
    The deadline for fulfilling the ultimatum in three days is not accurate.
    Perhaps the republics will require the withdrawal of the Bandera army within 24 hours, and three days for a complete withdrawal.
  13. Rostislav Rabinovich (Rostislav) 7 February 2022 05: 11
    -2
    More than a hundred years ago, Chancellor Otto von Bismarck, the collector of German lands, prophesied:

    The power of Russia can only be undermined by the separation of Ukraine from it ... it is necessary not only to tear off, but also to oppose Ukraine to Russia. To do this, you just need to find and nurture traitors among the elite and, with their help, change the self-awareness of one part of the great people to such an extent that they will hate everything Russian, hate their kind, without realizing it. Everything else is a matter of time.

    More than thirty years have passed since the secession, a new generation of Ukronazis has grown up and Bismarck's prophecy has been fully realized with the complete absence of opposition from the eReFie authorities, which indicates their deliberate actions to destroy Russia. In this situation, talking about some kind of plan "B" among cowardly talkers is not self-respecting, definitely ... Moreover, there are open access assumptions that the Tsar-Pontar is Langley's best project in the entire history of Western intelligence services.
    Read here: https://newsland.com/user/4297734988/content/putin-samyi-krupnyi-proekt-zapadnykh-spetssluzhb/4345147
    and here: https://gordonua.com/news/worldnews/eks-razvedchik-kgb-shvets-kogda-putin-nas-pokinet-tsru-objazano-budet-ustanovit-v-svoem-holle-slavy-zvezdu-s -nadpisju-spasibo-tebe-agent-okurok-1491521.html
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 7 February 2022 07: 49
      +5
      Bismarck does not have such a quote - a remake of Rostik Rabinovich
  14. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 7 February 2022 05: 16
    -1
    And further. For thinking people it is obvious, but for the majority it is still necessary to chew.
    Negotiations will begin only after the situation in the former Ukraine settles down.
    Russia will not talk with the US or NATO, but with European states, individually.
    Do they want to perish completely and forever, or let's live peacefully.
    And you can not launch SP-2, so be it.
  15. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 7 February 2022 05: 33
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    Quote: Rostislav Rabinovich
    The power of Russia can only be undermined by the separation of Ukraine from it... it is necessary not only to tear off, but also to oppose Ukraine to Russia.

    This phrase is replicated on the Internet. Meanwhile, historians have not found the original source. Although they searched hard. There is every reason to believe that this is another fake from propagandists from the West.
  16. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 7 February 2022 05: 35
    +1
    Quote: Volkonsky
    and this is said by a person who registered here 17 days ago

    My predictions are not limited to this site.
  17. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 7 February 2022 05: 39
    +2
    Quote: Volkonsky
    for this to happen, Ukraine must officially withdraw from Minsk-2, it has three more days for this, February 10 expires 14 days taken by Yermak for reflection

    Is 21.02.22/10/XNUMX earlier or later than February XNUMX?
    Officially, the former Ukraine will not leave Minsk-2. But this trick won't help her.
  18. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 7 February 2022 05: 51
    +1
    Quote: Volkonsky
    I suggest just don't read, refrain from giving me advice on what to do, and even more so, don't try to speak for me

    Where do I give you advice? Or I speak for you. A?
    I expressed my opinion. About what you write and what I don't like about what you write.
    This is my right as a reader. You can ignore my opinion - it's your right.
    You're trying to take on my identity. Not ashamed?
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 7 February 2022 07: 57
      0
      The author at first hoped to intrigue the reader by the fact that he had cleared the chip, Putin's plans. I was hoping to drag out the series of articles until events happen. To say later - that's what I told you about.
      Having gone through all the delusional and semi-delusional versions of how he and Putin will allegedly force the United States and NATO to peace, the author did not stop. Now he decided to just write about plans A, B, C, D, and so on. Well, what - then he will write that Putin fulfilled plan D No. 163, as the author suggested.

      Do you know the author of these words? Who is attacking whose identity? Who is trying to argue on behalf of whom? Before I make claims, look in the mirror!
      1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 7 February 2022 08: 08
        +2
        I describe the actions of the author as I understand them. Actions, not personality.
        Where is the advice on what to do?

        Your personality doesn't interest me at all. But what you write, how you write and why you write - I absolutely do not like it. Comments are more interesting. Reading and writing is more fun. And your articles are like a bag for a boxer.
  19. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 7 February 2022 05: 56
    +1
    Quote: Volkonsky
    how with such a mind and not in the Kremlin? and judging by the time of broadcast, very far from the Kremlin

    We, in the Kremlin, work day and night, for the benefit of our Motherland fellow
  20. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 7 February 2022 06: 27
    -1
    Epigraph: "The one who shoots last laughs well!" (own observation)

    Maybe the first one after all?
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 7 February 2022 07: 52
      +1
      The one who hits his opponent with a shot does not necessarily shoot first, but always last.
      1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
        Marzhecki (Sergei) 7 February 2022 10: 05
        -1
        Completely optional. The Perimeter system is an example of this. Its use means that the first shot was behind the enemy. Lucky shot.
  21. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 7 February 2022 08: 40
    +1
    Quote: Volkonsky
    they already agree not to place Tomahawks in Romania and Poland, and we haven't even started haggling yet

    And it is right. They plan to place them in the vicinity of Kharkov. That's why you can promise.
    But the victory of the Russian side is undoubted. Negotiations, negotiations, promises, promises .... And all in our favor. Soon they will issue a medal - "For victory in negotiations."

    My ex-wife dreamed of Paris. Moved to Sochi. Curses the local climate. She dislikes him terribly. But she achieved her goal, according to her. I became much closer to Paris than twenty years ago.
  22. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) 7 February 2022 09: 17
    +1
    The author again burns with napalm, I already wrote that he is an ordinary balabol, all his predictions are made with a finger
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 7 February 2022 14: 00
      +1
      comrade, the Hydrometeorological Center is a floor above, I don’t do forecasts!
  23. Valera75 Offline Valera75
    Valera75 (Valery) 7 February 2022 10: 30
    +1
    Quote: Rostislav Rabinovich
    Moreover, in the public domain there are suggestions that the Tsar-Pontar is Langley's best project in the history of Western intelligence services.
    Read here:

    What kind of masochists do you have to be so that in the nineties, when the West wiped its feet on our country, laughed at the drunk president, the CIA were at our strategic facilities at home, stir up a project named Putin in Russia. What would be in 15, in in the oil-bearing country of Syria, our army put things in order and recaptured 90% of the land from ISIS (the brainchild of the West), and soon I think the Yankees will kick it in the ass from there. Well, at least turn on your brain a little and don’t read Ukrobander’s Gordon.
    1. Dyusha Metelkin Offline Dyusha Metelkin
      Dyusha Metelkin (Dyusha) 8 February 2022 18: 28
      -2
      Yeltsin was run by oligarchs and American spies, he put Putin in power. Can you draw your own conclusion from these two theses?
      1. Valera75 Offline Valera75
        Valera75 (Valery) 8 February 2022 19: 46
        +1
        Yeltsin was run by oligarchs and American spies, he put Putin in power. Can you draw your own conclusion from these two theses?

        Dyusha Metelkin, you seem to be from an incubator or a bot farm, and you are trying to fool my brains here. Putin was already working as the director of the FSB.
        By the way, the attack on Pristina in 99 was also done with the consent of the head of the FSB, tobish Putin. The West is such a sadomasochist that it stirred up such a project that now Western leaders go to him for advice and talk for 6 hours.

        Yeltsin was ruled by oligarchs and American spies

        he was ruled by a green serpent and cowardice.
  24. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 7 February 2022 10: 45
    +1
    Much has been written, but there is no content at all. Empty talk.
  25. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 7 February 2022 11: 14
    +3
    Plan B: Military coup in Kiev.
    With the introduction of martial law throughout the former Ukraine.
    1. Archangel Offline Archangel
      Archangel (Denis) 7 February 2022 22: 10
      0
      It may well be. Why are we worse. Screwdriver for 2014
  26. Konstantin_3 Offline Konstantin_3
    Konstantin_3 (Konstantin Zelenin) 7 February 2022 11: 19
    +3
    You need to publish a book!
    It reads like a good Zlotnikov.
    Fantastic!
  27. Assault Offline Assault
    Assault (Assault) 7 February 2022 11: 41
    0
    Rare nonsense!
  28. Bahadur Offline Bahadur
    Bahadur (Stanislas) 7 February 2022 11: 55
    +1
    Quote: Marzhetsky
    Completely optional. The Perimeter system is an example of this. Its use means that the first shot was behind the enemy. Lucky shot.

    - Translate, sir.
    Whose lucky shot is that?)))
  29. Bahadur Offline Bahadur
    Bahadur (Stanislas) 7 February 2022 12: 30
    +3
    1. The author, as always, 5+
    (Ah, really - write a book. I'll buy it).
    2. Binduzhnik, michael1950, Rostik Rabinovich, etc. - or These three to the "little Haifa" ward - you guys write from there (apparently all three and their ilk are having fun so sitting in the stupid house there, but they don’t know Hebrew) .
    3. The topic about Ukraine has already got. What is there to discuss? : fascists, tarry already, the bill has gone to the clock, this time no one will let you tick into Canada, Borispol is at gunpoint, and there won’t be enough space for everyone in the Galician zoo. Go to the Poles as always, they Know and Remember How to treat Bandera.
    4. Yes, it is Syria - there are a lot of prophecies, remember that it is in this Holy Land that the Antichrist will be overthrown.
    5. Karen Georgievich correctly compared the current global situation 2-3 weeks ago with the film / story "The Last Shot": the n-s have already fired (politically) and missed. And two times. And for us (like Fidelio (for us, Russians, the name suits - Loyalty) in this story) we won’t even shoot over = they have already lost. FINALLY UNDERSTAND THIS.

    And if it comes to a real shot, EVERYONE will die.
    Do not even hope for another outcome.
    Tick-tock...
  30. Bahadur Offline Bahadur
    Bahadur (Stanislas) 7 February 2022 12: 47
    +6
    Quote from: Lana Martinkevich
    Ahaha, Putin’s silence is more terrible than his words. - Petrosyan is resting, it would be better if he was silent at all, otherwise Orban was carrying such nonsense, demonstrating the inadequacy of his policy, Putin praised Hungary for a long time, telling how relations between Hungary and the Russian Federation were developing dynamically, and then carried the usual nonsense about the insidious NATO and the threat of expanding the Alliance - he began to complain about NATO to the leader of Hungary, which is part of NATO. Putin invited Orban to Moscow, spoke for a long time about cooperation, and then declares his country a threat and tells how Moscow is going to fight NATO, or is Hungary part of some other NATO? Why do some NATO countries pose a threat to the Russian Federation, according to Putin, but Hungary does not, although a member of NATO and this does not prevent Putin from cooperating with it. In general, Putin simultaneously receives the leader of the NATO country, praises him and at the same time says that NATO is a threat and it must be fought and resisted - and he issued all this at the same time - here is an ultimatum to NATO and immediately cooperation with the NATO country.

    "Ahaha" - the beginning Already "epic" This female.
    Registered here today at 6 am Here and today at 7 am did you get banned? A: An amazing career.
    You, sorry, whose will you be, kids? : product 404, Sobchak bots or a newfangled trend from the gallery of the last courses of Minsk University?)))
    They taught you the Russian language, invested, but in your head veeeeeeeTeeeeeeeer .........
  31. Valera75 Offline Valera75
    Valera75 (Valery) 7 February 2022 14: 12
    +2
    Quote: Bahadur
    4. Yes, it is Syria - there are a lot of prophecies, remember that it is in this Holy Land that the Antichrist will be overthrown.

    From afar (Putin and the Moscow Region) he will put things in strict order in one place so that others would draw conclusions by trying on this situation for themselves and think 10 times whether it is necessary to spoil Russia. And in Ukraine it is necessary to restore order, but so as to catch everyone who runs from there, like Ze , Avakov, gunpowder, etc. to bring them to justice before the people of Ukraine. Although you look at the people of Ukraine and something becomes creepy, but are they all right with their heads? Gunpowder has returned and they applaud him and many are again ready for to vote for him. He led their fathers, husbands and children to slaughter like cattle, and they were drummed. In interesting times, we live already wondering what people are capable of what
    1. non-academic Offline non-academic
      non-academic (Yuri Chernov) 8 February 2022 14: 11
      -1
      Something does not work for Putin to "put things in order", rather the opposite - where he does not enter - a puddle and oh b sir!
    2. Dyusha Metelkin Offline Dyusha Metelkin
      Dyusha Metelkin (Dyusha) 8 February 2022 18: 08
      -2
      Maybe first in Uryupinsk put things in order?
  32. Yuri Neupokoev Offline Yuri Neupokoev
    Yuri Neupokoev (Yuri Neupokoev) 7 February 2022 14: 40
    0
    In principle, I agree with the author. Plan A is not yet complete. We are waiting for a final written response to our proposals (which are justified and overdue) to legitimize other plans. So far, the most intensive work is underway to convince the other side that we have nowhere to retreat and that everything is not a joke.
  33. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 7 February 2022 14: 42
    +1
    Quote: Yuri Neupokoev
    We are waiting for a final written response to our proposals (which are justified and overdue) to legitimize other plans.

    Geyyyyy!!!!
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  39. Morgan Offline Morgan
    Morgan (Miron) 7 February 2022 23: 01
    +3
    Putin to use plan "B" "then there will be plan C, and then operation" Y ".
  40. avges Offline avges
    avges (Alexander) 7 February 2022 23: 23
    +1
    Plan A, which is also the only one, is to finally look at Mother Russia. As in the song "a damn hard look."
  41. Valera75 Offline Valera75
    Valera75 (Valery) 8 February 2022 08: 24
    -1
    Read on RT

    As the Russian leader noted following talks in Moscow with French President Emmanuel Macron, the United States and NATO bypassed the points of Moscow's greatest concern by providing a set of "political clichés." At the same time, the Russian leader noted that the dialogue would continue until Moscow received answers to key questions.

    It turns out that the answer is given blurry and Putin squeezes what he needs from them, and they, realizing that they will untie his hands, wind around with a specific answer. some other plus and time plays into the hands of Putin and he allows you to slightly pull the rubber with the answer.
  42. Sergei Molchanov (Sergey Molchanov) 8 February 2022 08: 41
    +1
    Vladimir Volkonsky, I personally like your sarcasm. Serious stuff, but fun. But for the quivering state of the Aglo-Saxons, there is still a long way to go.
    1. Dyusha Metelkin Offline Dyusha Metelkin
      Dyusha Metelkin (Dyusha) 8 February 2022 18: 12
      -1
      So, with jokes and jokes, you will go to war for the capital of the Millers and Rotenbergs. And when you return in tsinkacha, your relatives will already have fun. And the capitals of the Millers and Rotenbergs, as the Anglo-Saxons had, will remain with them. And your relatives will have a copper medal and your illiterate comments as a keepsake.
      1. isofat Offline isofat
        isofat (isofat) 8 February 2022 18: 33
        -3
        Duchampand why go anywhere? They themselves come, they have already come to Ukraine. sad
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  43. Essex62 Offline Essex62
    Essex62 (Alexander) 8 February 2022 09: 14
    +1
    So where, in fact, about plan B? Judging by the wang of the author, this is a blow to the bases of mattresses in Syria. What forces? Syrian armies? They won't get it.
    With the support of the Russian Aerospace Forces? This is a war between the Russian Federation and the United States. The boys don’t have any B. The wrestlers were blown away.
    To drive, during exercises, equipment and troops, demonstrating and tribute in the face, so that a snout from the nose, these are two big differences.
  44. non-academic Offline non-academic
    non-academic (Yuri Chernov) 8 February 2022 14: 07
    -2
    The author is clearly out of his mind. He proposes to show us Kuz'kin's mother by unleashing a war on the territory of a third state with hundreds and thousands of victims? And he himself is not averse to going to Syria to fight? Does he have an extra arm or leg or head?
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  45. Denis Orthodox Offline Denis Orthodox
    Denis Orthodox (Denis Orthodox) 8 February 2022 15: 00
    +1
    clearly ... it means that the retirement age will soon be raised again ...
    1. Dyusha Metelkin Offline Dyusha Metelkin
      Dyusha Metelkin (Dyusha) 8 February 2022 18: 02
      -1
      ... and funerals as a public service.
  46. Dyusha Metelkin Offline Dyusha Metelkin
    Dyusha Metelkin (Dyusha) 8 February 2022 17: 42
    -3
    I wonder how many times the West should send Putin with his ultimatums?
    Three times orally and once, at the request of Putin, in writing, apparently not enough;)
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  48. Fair man Offline Fair man
    Fair man (Fair man) 9 February 2022 09: 39
    -2
    Each Bulava fired and a ton of solarium burned during exercises undermines Russian econgmics! “The worse, the better,” Chernyshevsky wrote, because the worse things are in the country, the better for those who are waiting for change, because this way the regime will collapse sooner
  49. V. Oreshkin Offline V. Oreshkin
    V. Oreshkin (V. Oreshkin) 10 February 2022 09: 50
    -1
    Always at such moments I want to ask - at whose expense the banquet. We collect text messages for children for treatment, and here billions of rubles were wasted, to show the world a beautiful picture, in order to see another picture from NATO in response. And the salary of teachers is below the minimum wage of 8500 rubles. Yes, I understand, sometimes you also need to shake your muscles, but it’s easier to do this when people live in abundance, pay taxes, work, and not when the population’s debt burden is estimated in trillions and housing debts are billions. The USSR has already gone through the experience of the Cold War, how it all ended - the collapse of the USSR and huge external debts, for which it took decades to pay off, thousands of enterprises fell into complete disrepair and all for the sake of a beautiful picture of a nuclear explosion. Like children, by God, who do they want to surprise ... Plan B motherfuck them ... The economy should be in the forefront of the country, not plan B
  50. Ivan Kiryan Offline Ivan Kiryan
    Ivan Kiryan (Ivan Kiryan) 10 February 2022 15: 35
    0
    Bravo author, straight to the point
  51. Nikolay V-Maltsevsky (Nikolay V-Maltsevsky) 10 February 2022 18: 39
    +1
    I don’t understand one thing, why doesn’t our Lavrov, on behalf of RUSSIA, shut up the hailo English ... who came to our country and publicly threatens to punish RUSSIA if we invade a neighboring country? What is this Lavrov's manner of smearing snot? Even in RUSSIA, these diplomats cannot stall same-sex people ... who, even while in RUSSIA, are not afraid to humiliate RUSSIA. In response to her attacks on RUSSIA, Lavrov had to take off his dirty shoe and give him a punch in the face, which came to teach Lavrov and Putin the mind. Are you not ashamed of yourself? shniks you, not the Russian rulers. Under no government has RUSSIA been so humiliated as under Putin. Shame and shame. you are not presidents.
    1. Handle Offline Handle
      Handle (Alexey) 11 February 2022 11: 46
      0
      Because we are Polite
  52. Predictor Offline Predictor
    Predictor (Valery M) 11 February 2022 07: 16
    -1
    Clearly and clearly Putin said THERE WILL BE NO WINNERS. The losers are also likely.
  53. Yuri Feoktistov Offline Yuri Feoktistov
    Yuri Feoktistov (Yuri Feoktistov) 11 February 2022 08: 16
    -1
    Author, you openly call for war! Or are you on behalf of ....? Then you can! If what you are calling for happens, will you go to war? Personally you?
  54. Handle Offline Handle
    Handle (Alexey) 11 February 2022 11: 44
    +1
    The whole of Europe gathers together once every hundred years to get on the head from Russia. After all, when you get on the head, it's sobering.
    Russia was attacked
    1240 - (Teutonic Knights) Germans;
    XII-XV century - Tatar-Mongolian hordes;
    XVI-XVII centuries - the Commonwealth, the Poles (attacked three times);
    1709 - Swedes;
    1812 - the French;
    1854-1856 - Crimean War, Anglo-French-Turkish expedition, plus Italians from the island of Sardinia;
    1905 - Japan;
    1914 - Triple Alliance: Germany, Austria, Hungary, Italy, Bulgaria, Turkey joined them;
    1918 - Kaiser's Germany;
    1918-1920 - (Entente) England, Japan, Czechoslovakia, Romania;
    1941 - Nazi Germany, together with Italy, Romania, with the support of Czechoslovakia, Bulgaria, France, Hungary, Spain, Belgium, the Netherlands.