In Germany, they offered to “freeze a couple of winters”, but punish Russia for Ukraine

A rather remarkable article was published in the German magazine Focus, on the pages of which the journalist Ulrich Reitz speaks about policy "containment" of Russia.

If the West intended to protect Ukraine from Russia, it could do it. He only needs to accept Ukraine into NATO. […] If Ukraine were a member of the Alliance today, Moscow would risk starting a big war, one that would threaten the destruction of Russia itself. […] But the West abandoned this form of military deterrence in the case of Ukraine

- argues the author.

Mr. Reitz points out that 40 percent of Russia's foreign trade is with Western countries. Germany alone supplies goods worth more than 25 billion euros to Russia. Russia, on the other hand, sends its raw materials to the West, mainly natural gas.

Recently, the German federal government made it clear that "everything is ready" in the field of sanctions. They include not only the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline, through which gas has not yet flowed, but also the participation of the Russian Federation in the SWIFT payment system, expulsion from which, as the text says, will lead to a halt in all foreign trade.

The author admits that the Ukrainian army is unlikely to be able to defeat Russia. Yes, and NATO will hardly accept Square, at least as long as it is involved in a direct conflict. However, he still calls on his fellow citizens to be tough.

Pacifists have always found the logic of containment perverted. However, this perversion has prevented a major war for 75 years in a row.

- summarizes the author.

Reader comments (selectively):

Dear Mr. Reitz, I used to read your comments carefully and with pleasure. Now I'm wondering where you got all this from? Perhaps Asterix told you the secret of the Druid's magic potion? The way you rant about the chances of winning the war and how to inflict maximum damage on the Russians horrifies me. As I understand it, you never held a machine gun in your hands, never wore helmets on your head and never dug trenches? I despise you!

– said Dieter Tippmann.

All barriers are built because of the orientation of European states towards the United States. And the gradual (completely unnecessary) and provocative eastward expansion of NATO only added fuel to the fire. Russia is part of Europe and has proven to be a reliable partner so far. Do you want Russia to turn to the East? Then keep up the good work

- said Udo Grau.

Talk of "nuclear" sanctions is going too far. The Americans are just using us, and Nord Stream 2 is a good example of this. America wants to torpedo the pipeline in order to sell us its not-too-clean shale gas. And instead of finally getting more gas from Russia, we ourselves supply the already available gas to the east. Stocks will soon run out, and then many, presumably, will begin to freeze

Claus Randel reasoned.

I am not a fan of Putin at all, but in principle he is right. He does not want to see other people's bases on the borders in exactly the same way that the United States does not want Russian troops in Cuba. If you are using the argument that Ukraine is a sovereign state, then you must accept this for Cuba as well. In general, some of the requirements of Ukraine in relation to Germany are quite outrageous

writes carlo blum.

We must finally stop whining and put Putin in his place. Didn't the West support Ukraine in its desire to get away from Russia? I'd rather be cold for two winters and take cold showers than see Putin take over all of Ukraine. But the West will sit in front of the TV, as it was during the annexation of Crimea

– responded user Ralf Bombeck.

The "financial atomic bomb" will hit the West especially hard if trade stops. The Russians are willing to suffer, unlike people in the pampered West, where gas will no longer flow and the Russian market will close and many jobs will be lost - to the delight of the Chinese. In general, no NATO strategist has ever thought about the consequences for the West if Russia and China form a closer alliance.

- the user Mirko Cramer indicated the position.
  • Photos used: German Ministry of Defense
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  1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 31 January 2022 09: 22
    We must finally stop whining and put Putin in his place. Didn't the West support Ukraine in its desire to get away from Russia? I'd rather be cold for two winters and take cold showers than see Putin take over all of Ukraine.

    Maybe Churchill was right, and not Stalin, when he wanted to completely destroy Germany?
    Russia allowed historical Germany to unite, and in return the ungrateful Germans want to divide historical Russia?
    You can freeze as many winters as you like, until your German industry finally dies, and Chinese industry takes its place!
  2. viktortarianik Offline viktortarianik
    viktortarianik (Victor) 31 January 2022 09: 45
    For some reason, those who are sure that he will not suffer, he will get out, are calling for rigidity in relation to Russia. And they are not accustomed to answer for their words. And to show by example - start taking a cold shower, turn off the heating, cook food on the fire weakly.
  3. Moray Boreas Offline Moray Boreas
    Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 31 January 2022 10: 04
    Merry! She - she ... pour and drink!
  4. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 31 January 2022 10: 58
    Maybe it's just an understanding that belt-tightening is inevitable, since there's nothing to eat anyway, let's go on a hunger strike and suffer for the idea?
    For a better understanding of the issue, I recommend reading an analysis of European "reflections" on the topic of whether they can live without a totalitarian Hazu. There is also a link to the original article.
    The proposed measures are simply wonderful, from the forced closure of entire industries, to "TURN ON" and fie on entu decrabonization, let's already drown with fuel oil. The picture is very indicative (the countries marked in red are the most promising promising candidates for inclusion in the list of the main "victims").

    ps And yes, on the map Ukraine tse Europe. A dream come true laughing And what is characteristic, they included Crimea there too. Surely they are calculating how he will suffer without gas. Analytegi, Rastak their family portrait winked
  5. freeze, freeze, wolf tail, yyyyygygygygygygygygygygyy
  6. Siegfried Offline Siegfried
    Siegfried (Gennady) 31 January 2022 13: 49
    Europe is losing huge money every day because of the high price of gas. Impact on businesses and citizens. Prices remain high until the issue is resolved in Ukraine. SP2 only after Minsk2. The longer this goes on, the more money Europe loses.
  7. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 31 January 2022 14: 09
    That everyone is so worried.
    If there is a warming, then "we should rejoice" (Putin) in a cool winter.

    By the way, it is already at the finish line, but as before, it did not reach -40.
    and drifts of snow - were always.
  8. Grandpa Wow Offline Grandpa Wow
    Grandpa Wow (Nikolai) 1 February 2022 20: 47
    I liked the logic of the Europeans: "Wow, if we accepted Ukraine into NATO, then how we would hit Russia with military power for its invasion! But since there is no real invasion, we cannot accept Ukraine into NATO, because we ourselves" with greetings ", and "a monkey with a grenade", also "with greetings" - not so much we "fell and hit our heads in childhood"! So in Germany everyone understands the situation, but the smart ones are silent, and "those who hit their heads in childhood", like us And I say this as a German living in Russia, communicating with his relatives from Germany!
  9. Grandpa Wow Offline Grandpa Wow
    Grandpa Wow (Nikolai) 1 February 2022 21: 02
    And further. Ralph Bombeck sat in front of the TV on the lower half of his brain and is now writing OBS (one grandmother said)! And he would tear off his German ass, come to Crimea and look at the "captured and occupied" Crimeans! I was in 2015 both in the Crimea and in the DPR, and I saw everything myself, to be honest with myself! And Ralph Bombeck is a "starball" who will be held accountable for his words when I return to Germany (it will be soon)! Germany is not so great as not to find this man! I just want to look him in the eye, like a German to a German!