Will Russia be able to win the fight for Ukraine


The "Putin's ultimatum" rejected by the West on the non-expansion of the NATO bloc further to the East at the expense of Ukraine and Georgia puts on the agenda the question of a real war, where Ukraine is defined as a battlefield. On the one hand, the Armed Forces of Ukraine, supported by American military advisers, intelligence and weapons, will operate, on the other hand, the LDNR militia and, possibly, directly the RF Armed Forces, if things go really badly. Depending on the outcome of the armed conflict, the configuration of the post-war world order in Europe will be formed.


The problem is that it, the result, is not quite obvious. We are constantly being convinced that the Russian army will easily defeat the Ukrainian one. In an open field battle, yes, we will win, but war is something more than a general battle, after which an act of unconditional surrender is signed. Do not forget that exactly the same Russian people will fight on the other side, traditionally staunch in the defense of their land.

For 8 years of our “doing nothing”, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have changed a lot. If in 2014 Kiev had only 1 combat-ready battalion for the whole country, today the total number of the Ukrainian army is already 255 thousand people, of which 145 thousand are in the ground forces. The mobilization reserve is 900 reservists, plus the so-called "volunteer battalions" and other armed formations, consisting of ideological nationalists, account for another 90 people. This is a big power.

At the same time, it should be taken into account that all the past years, the Ukrainian military was trained by NATO instructors, they gained real combat experience in the Donbass, the level of controllability of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has increased significantly. It will no longer be possible to drive them around the field on a white "Niva", but you can forget about the "boilers". With frank connivance on our part against the DPR and LPR, two operational-tactical groups "Vostok" and "North" have long been created, saturated with armored vehicles, cannon artillery, MLRS and air defense systems. Recently, against the background of the political crisis, American models of weapons began to arrive in Ukraine - the famous Stingers, anti-tank missile systems, etc.

Do not forget that Nezalezhnaya has its own Air Force, which includes: 43 MiG-29 fighters, 26 Su-27 heavy fighters, 17 Su-25 attack aircraft, 12 Su-24 bombers, as well as 54 Mi-8 and 34 helicopter Mi-24. In addition, the Armed Forces of Ukraine now have several dozen Turkish-made Bayraktar drones, which can be used both for air strikes on Russian armored vehicles and for adjusting the fire of their own artillery.

This is all very serious. The jokes are long gone. A war with such an enemy will cost us a lot of blood. But it is also impossible not to fight: the alternative is Ukraine's entry into the NATO bloc and the deployment of American medium-range missiles there with a minimum flight time to Moscow. "Multi-move", allegedly intended to freeze, ruin and ruin Ukraine, ended in a natural fiasco. Now this will have to be paid for with great Russian blood on both sides.

But is it possible to solve the problem of neutralizing this threat at a lower cost? Maybe.

At first, it is necessary to break off diplomatic relations with Kiev and at the same time recognize the proclaimed people's republics of Donbass as the successors of that "domaidan" Ukraine, and establish diplomatic relations with it already. There, in Donetsk, the “Ukrainian government in exile” will have to move, say, with ex-Prime Minister Azarov at the head, which should have been created back in 2014.

Thus, Russia can delegitimize the current regime in Kiev.

Secondly, there is no point in organizing a local “bloody massacre” in the Donbass, recapturing nameless small villages in order to return them back to Kiev within the framework of the Minsk agreements. Russia has a long border with Ukraine, and the RF Armed Forces can and will have to launch an offensive along a broad front, including the territory of allied Belarus and amphibious assault in the Odessa region with access to Transnistria.

This will allow the forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to be “pulled apart” in several directions, which will be forced to try to react by transferring units and machinery over long distances, weakening the shock fist and the fortified areas created. Russian aviation could prevent this by destroying communications, infrastructure, trains with armored vehicles.

Thirdly, to disorganize the defensive potential of Ukraine and the manageability of the country would help mass protests and riots, the reason for which may be an increase in food prices, gas and other tariffs. What it might look like, we saw recently in Kazakhstan. This job for special services to simplify the task of the military.

Here, the “Ukrainian government in exile” will have to enter the scene in order to seize control, voicing a clear and consistent program for ending the war with Russia, the post-war organization of the Independent and establishing constructive relations between Moscow and Kiev.

With the implementation of such a set of measures, the likelihood of a positive outcome for the Russian and Ukrainian peoples of this campaign will increase significantly.
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  1. Mikhail L. Offline Mikhail L.
    Mikhail L. 23 January 2022 12: 50
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    If the problem is "Ukraine's entry into the NATO bloc and the deployment of American medium-range missiles there with a minimum flight time to Moscow," then this is a conflict not with Ukraine, but with the United States!
    J.Kennedy's decision: to allow Ukraine's entry into NATO with the US warning to destroy its launchers on Ukrainian territory!
    For a possible subsequent escalation, the responsibility will lie not with the Russian Federation, but with the United States and NATO!
  2. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
    Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 23 January 2022 13: 11
    -5
    First, which of the republics will be the legal successor of Ukraine? Both at once? The author does not really understand what legitimacy is. Therefore, the “Ukrainian government in exile” will have problems with legitimacy
    Secondly, do the Russian military have no idea about this? Will they be a head-on cavalry attack according to the precepts of Budyonny?
    Thirdly, the author overestimates the capabilities of the special services. To manage tariffs in Ukraine, intelligence agencies must own distribution companies or wholesalers.

    With the implementation of such a set of measures, the likelihood of a positive outcome for the Russian and Ukrainian peoples of this campaign will increase significantly.

    The war between Russia and Ukraine cannot have a positive outcome for the Russian and Ukrainian peoples. Blood will come back to haunt many more generations.

    PS Well, which of the author is a leftist? Natural right!
    1. tulip Offline tulip
      tulip 23 January 2022 15: 05
      +4
      there is no Ukrainian people)) you still tell me about the American people or the Canadian people for example) there are Bandera people and there are Russians - there can’t be any good neighborly relations between Russians and Bandera people a priori
      1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 23 January 2022 16: 08
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        OK. The war between Russia and Ukraine cannot have a positive outcome for the Russian Russian and Ukrainian Russian peoples.
        That's better?
        1. tulip Offline tulip
          tulip 23 January 2022 21: 40
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          Ukrainian people can be found around the corner)))
      2. Konstantin_2 Offline Konstantin_2
        Konstantin_2 (Konstantin Alexandrovich) 27 January 2022 19: 53
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        And why are you comparing nationality with beliefs?

        And the Buryats, Tatars, Bashkirs, Dagestanis, etc. who do you refer to?
    2. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 24 January 2022 13: 26
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      First, which of the republics will be the legal successor of Ukraine? Both at once? The author does not really understand what legitimacy is. Therefore, the “Ukrainian government in exile” will have problems with legitimacy

      The author knows perfectly well what legitimacy is and how it differs from legality.


      The war between Russia and Ukraine cannot have a positive outcome for the Russian and Ukrainian peoples. Blood will come back to haunt many more generations.

      Listen to what a liberal says and do the opposite. Then everything will be fine.

      Natural right!

      Look who's Talking.
      1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 25 January 2022 00: 03
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        Quote: Marzhetsky
        The author knows perfectly well what legitimacy is and how it differs from legality.

        From your article:

        Thus, Russia can delegitimize current regime in Kiev.

        Legitimacy is the recognition by citizens of the right of the authorities to govern them. How will Russia's recognition of the "Ukrainian government in exile" headed by Azarov help delegitimize the Ukrainian government in the eyes of Ukrainians? You've studied political science. The joke is that the legitimacy (and legality) of the authorities of the "Ukrainian government in exile" should be recognized in the Donbass, which seems unlikely.

        Quote: Marzhetsky
        Listen to what a liberal says and do the opposite. Then everything will be fine.

        Of course, this is my personal opinion, but it seems to me that any normal person cannot want a war between Russia and Ukraine. Regardless of political views.

        Quote: Marzhetsky
        Look who's Talking.

        But you preach imperialism in your articles! Imperialism, by definition, cannot be leftist.
        Your thesis

        mass protests and riots, the reason for which could be an increase in food prices, gas prices and other tariffs, would help to disorganize the defensive potential of Ukraine and the governability of the country. What it might look like, we saw recently in Kazakhstan. This is a job for the special services to make the task of the military easier.

        You can't call it leftist. The founding fathers of the USSR proclaimed as their goal the struggle for the rights of the working people of the whole world, and not just for the rights of the working people of one nation (or state). This is for you to the National Socialists.
  3. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
    Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 23 January 2022 13: 23
    +1
    Firstly, secondly, and thirdly, does the cocked hat not press?

    - I look at you, Vasily Ivanovich: you are an incomprehensible person for my mind. Napoleon! Just Napoleon!
    - Worse, Petka, worse! It was easier for Napoleon, neither those machine guns, nor those airplanes. Grace! They also sent me a plane the other day. One gasoline, bastard, eats - you can’t get enough ..
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 24 January 2022 13: 30
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      No, it doesn't. Use it if your mind is not enough. Painted for free.
  4. Teacher Offline Teacher
    Teacher (Wise) 23 January 2022 13: 32
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    First you need to destroy all communications on the Dnieper, including the railway bridge in Kiev. Establish a no-fly zone for military aviation over all of Ukraine. Inflict strikes on airfields and arsenals throughout Ukraine. Then systematically mow down all used equipment with aviation .. Mercenaries and ukrovoiny will run and let them run. Surround the fleeing forces of the Airborne Forces - disarm, document with fingerprints and release. Uporotyh - destroy air strikes and artillery. Dressed as women and hiding in the caches will have to be calculated. In Ukraine, it will not be difficult. Enough to pay for information. Give and take.
    Further elections on the territory and the new government under the control of the Governor-General. Maybe federalization, maybe something else. Naturally complete internationalism. No restrictions on nationality and language. Title to hell. From her only troubles for the peoples.
    1. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
      Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 23 January 2022 13: 44
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      And who will feed them, repay their debts, restore the economy?
      1. tulip Offline tulip
        tulip 23 January 2022 15: 09
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        Donbass can feed itself - you just need to give them the opportunity to live without war. Stop writing nonsense that someone will take money from your pocket. Russia can feed a hundred Ukrainians - you just need to deal with bureaucratic thieves at home - all the troubles come from them
        1. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
          Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 23 January 2022 16: 26
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          - to deal with bureaucrats ...

          Already figured out? When will you figure it out? And who will wait until you figure it out?
          It's not about the Donbass, but about the whole of Ukraine, well, except for Galicia ..
          In the same, now Dnieper, they will shoot you in the back, and you say that you can feed a hundred more of these ...
          What kind of "brotherly masochism" is this?
          1. tulip Offline tulip
            tulip 23 January 2022 21: 42
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            we in Russia do not suffer from the Crimea or the bridge - we suffer from our bureaucrats
            1. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
              Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 24 January 2022 06: 04
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              Then write like that - they say, call us, brother Norot, release until we become nobody, bureaucrats (eggs) interfere with us.
              In the meantime, from the sofas, let's talk about the direction of striking you. And how good it will be then ...
              1. tulip Offline tulip
                tulip 24 January 2022 09: 08
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                bureaucrats interfere, but the same Donbass or Novorossia can feed themselves. Mriya about how I will eat up the last hedgehog if the Donbass returns to Russia - keep it to yourself, they are not interesting to me)
                1. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
                  Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 24 January 2022 09: 24
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                  Do you read diagonally?
                  I repeat, it's not difficult for me.

                  - It's not about the Donbass, but about the whole of Ukraine, well, except for Galicia ..

                  Who will feed the frankly Russophobic part of the population of the outskirts?
                  And when will you deal with bureaucrats who interfere with you? In an hour, or in five decades?
                  1. tulip Offline tulip
                    tulip 24 January 2022 10: 13
                    -3
                    I did not write about the whole of Ukraine. Donbass and Novorossia are enough for Russia. The same Kiev does not make sense to take.
                    There are hard-working people - they feed themselves. If you think that we will eat the last hedgehog here because someone in Kharkov will crack black caviar with boats, then you can write to hell with us to feed Voronezh and Volgograd, for example, with the same success.
                    Work is progressing according to bureaucrats. Corruption in an hour or a day cannot be destroyed if the current is in your minds)
                    1. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
                      Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 24 January 2022 10: 41
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                      A certain teacher wrote about this, and you warmly supported him.
                      Voronezh and Volgograd are already ours, and not Russophobic cities. Do not confuse warm with soft.
                      We, the Crimeans, have already eaten all the hedgehogs.
                      Therefore, I know my former fellow citizens from/to very well.
                      Hence my concerns.
                      Well, according to bureaucrats: - not an hour and not a day ...
                      When did you plan to release? How long to wait then?
                      1. tulip Offline tulip
                        tulip 24 January 2022 10: 48
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                        So are you a Crimean or do you need to be released? You have already decided to start))) And then you get confused in the testimony.
                        My relatives in Nikolaev are waiting for Russia to come and there are many like them. I do not blame them for not doing anything - because if you do something, they will be taken to a forest plantation or to a basement and you will disappear. Therefore, they are silent for the time being.
                        Well, and those who do not need Russia - a suitcase Lemberg station - no one is holding anyone. And those who remain - they will work like me in the same Volgograd, build a country))) Or are they working for you to say that we will join the EU or Russia, there is no need to work, dumplings fly into your mouth?)
                      2. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
                        Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 24 January 2022 11: 05
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                        You are reading diagonally.
                        I didn't say that we should be released. And do not interpret your conjectures with the EU and dumplings on me.
                        I asked: - who will feed the Russophobic part of the outskirts? And when, like you, turbopatriots will get rid of bureaucrats in order to release the conditional Mykola from Nikolaev?
                        Just in case, I repeat my questions again: - Who? And when?
                      3. tulip Offline tulip
                        tulip 24 January 2022 11: 10
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                        you write that you Crimeans ate all the hedgehogs - then you ask when I will release you. If you are a Crimean, then why release you?))) You have already decided where you are, who you are - then we'll talk about the rest. While I see that you are an ordinary hypoxic rat that bustles)))
                        no one is going to feed the Russophobic part of the outskirts. I wrote to you - that those lands that will enter Russia can feed themselves. About the fact that I will eat less if Nikolaev or Donetsk become part of Russia - I'm not interested)
                      4. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
                        Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 24 January 2022 11: 38
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                        Where is my quote in which I say that I should be released??? Provide, if not starball ..
                        What are you hanging??? In general, the meaning of the questions does not reach?
                        I, you, the fourth time! I say.
                        - it's not about the Donbass!!!

                        Let's say you answered the first question. You personally will feed the Russophobic population remaining in the liberated territories.
                        Then the second question - when will you get rid of bureaucrats?
                        This problem is as many millennia old as the very concept of statehood exists.
                        She was, is, and will be!
                        So how many thousands of years to wait? After all, according to you, until you get rid of those who interfere, nothing will happen.
                      5. tulip Offline tulip
                        tulip 24 January 2022 11: 42
                        -3
                        We, the Crimeans, have already eaten all the hedgehogs.
                        Therefore, I know my former fellow citizens from/to very well.
                        Hence my concerns.
                        Well, according to bureaucrats: - not an hour and not a day ...
                        When did you plan to release? How long to wait then?

                        You don’t remember what you wrote yourself?))) You write that you, like the Crimeans, ate all the hedgehogs, and then you write - when will I release you))) I just don’t understand - if you are a Crimean, then why the hell should I release you?)))
                        no one will feed anyone - I am writing to you for the hundredth time. If you have hands and a head, then you will earn it yourself. Donbass and Novorossia are good territories that feed themselves. If you have a pan instead of a head, then these are your problems.
                        by bureaucrats - you can return to Stalin's times. Plant to shoot.
                      6. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
                        Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 24 January 2022 11: 58
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                        Quote! Where is my exact quote, about mine, which is mine! liberation???
                        About hedgehogs, in general, it was you who first began to carry.
                        He wrote me down in Ukrainians, and instead of intelligible answers, he began to throw poop.
                        Where do you take Stalin???
                        And how many decades are you going to catch the Russophobic opposition?

                        I understand that it is useless to ask ... In addition to pseudo-patriotic, primitive demagoguery and populism, you have no intelligible answers.
                        Senior level at the entrance.
                        You can not answer.
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  • Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 24 January 2022 13: 32
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    Again 25. All the toad presses him to feed someone. Change the manual already, it has long been rotten.
    1. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
      Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 24 January 2022 14: 00
      +1
      Do you mean the manual?
      Is this an idle question?
      Why should we keep Russophobic-minded people? For example, in the Dnieper?
      After all, they won’t run away, dofiga will remain. This g ... on, is still enough in the Crimea. True, not many, but in the Dnieper there will be an overwhelming majority of them. What will you do with them? Shootings, camps?

      Zelensky leads in the presidential rating with 23,5%, Poroshenko has 20,9% - poll.

      We are offered to occupy a country in which every second inhabitant is crazy.
      It is unlikely that you will agree to share your pills with them.
  • tulip Offline tulip
    tulip 23 January 2022 15: 08
    +1
    I completely agree - the militias will do everything themselves, you just don’t need to interfere with them and you just need to give them weapons. The Russian Aerospace Forces will support them, well, plus the Chechen battalions and special forces battalions. No entry of the Russian army will be required. And the fact that the Ukrainians themselves will hand over the punishers - I also completely agree - there will be no partisanism - they will hand over everyone at once.
  • Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 23 January 2022 13: 44
    +2
    Of course, it is necessary to recognize the DPR and LPR. And conclude a military treaty with them. Then begin to liberate the occupied territory of these republics. Since the West in any case does not recognize the republic, it is not necessary to be limited only to the borders of the regions.
    The borders of Crimea should also be moved 60-70 km to the north (200-250 km wide). So to speak, the security zone of the Crimea itself.

    First of all, it is worth remotely destroying the enemy army.
    This is quite within the power of our army. Even if not to destroy, but to make it clear that there is no special point in fighting.
    Understandable on a physical, not mental level.

    A military defeat and the loss of part of the territory will lead to the fact that the former Ukraine will fall apart (this is where the work of the special services is needed).

    Next is work with the remnants of the former Ukraine - where it is possible to restore friendly relations, where possible - neutral. The main thing is to knock out the desire to allow NATO or the Anglo-Saxons into their territory.
  • steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 23 January 2022 13: 46
    -2
    The author is right about one thing. A peaceful solution to the problem, called Ukraine, is no longer possible. And the longer this problem is not solved, the more problems there will be later. And what is most offensive is that Putin himself created this problem with his mediocre policy.
    "Mass protests and riots would help, the reason for which could be an increase in food prices, gas and other tariffs"
    But with this it was necessary to start a long time ago and immediately! And not to increase trade. But, for Putin, the loot is higher than the interests of Russia and the life of Russians. .
    1. Dart2027 Offline Dart2027
      Dart2027 23 January 2022 14: 59
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      Quote: steel maker
      And what is most offensive is that Putin himself created this problem with his mediocre policy.

      So it was Putin who invented Ukraine?
      1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
        Marzhecki (Sergei) 24 January 2022 13: 32
        -4
        I had the opportunity in 2014 to solve the Ukrainian problem bloodlessly. Now only through the blood.
        1. Dart2027 Offline Dart2027
          Dart2027 24 January 2022 19: 49
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          Quote: Marzhetsky
          an opportunity in 2014 to solve the Ukrainian problem bloodlessly.

          It wouldn't have been completely bloodless. And what would you do with it then?
  • Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 23 January 2022 13: 52
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    Quote: The Fourth Horseman
    The war between Russia and Ukraine cannot have a positive outcome for the Russian and Ukrainian peoples. Blood will come back to haunt many more generations.

    Let's remember history. WWII. What happened after 1945? How were relations with the GDR and the FRG built? I don't think there were any major issues.
    Well, yes, someone will say, then the Germans, and then the Ukrainians. But we must remember that a significant part of the former Ukrainians are on our side. Well, Bandera will have to be destroyed. So nothing new. Except that it is necessary to leave power to the former Ukrainians themselves, albeit under supervision. Just like the Americans did in Germany and Japan.
    1. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
      Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 23 January 2022 16: 29
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      This is not my quote. I do not need to attribute other people's words to me.
      1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 23 January 2022 17: 24
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        Used the "Quote" function.
        Yes, really not your text - Oleg Pitersky wrote it.
        Although I have huge doubts that he is from St. Petersburg.
    2. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 23 January 2022 16: 30
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      There is a difference, then they attacked us and the USSR won. It tried on the Germans as aggressors (whom to blame but themselves) and tried on the Soviet people as winners. Now they will attack Ukraine and it will lose, there will be no changing factors. For example, Northern Ireland and Britain, Basques and Spaniards, Palistine and Israel, Chechnya and Russia are better suited.

      Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
      But we must remember that a significant part of the former Ukrainians are on our side. Well, Bandera will have to be destroyed. So nothing new. Except that it is necessary to leave power to the former Ukrainians themselves, albeit under supervision.

      I don’t know where you got the idea that the Ukrainians are former, and even more so that they are on “our” side, but the pro-Russian forces in Ukraine have been consistently losing all elections for the past seven years.

      Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
      Well, Bandera will have to be destroyed.

      I am not sure that the genocide of a part of Ukrainians is what is needed to normalize relations between our countries. I am sure that your Nazi dreams of genocide will remain only dreams.

      Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
      Except that it is necessary to leave power to the former Ukrainians themselves, albeit under supervision. Just like the Americans did in Germany and Japan.

      They are not supervised there, they are interested in cooperation. If supervised, then at the first opportunity those who are supervised run away from the supervisor. The former republics of the USSR and the Warsaw Pact are an example for you.
      1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
        Marzhecki (Sergei) 24 January 2022 13: 33
        -2
        They are not supervised there, they are interested in cooperation. If supervised, then at the first opportunity those who are supervised run away from the supervisor. The former republics of the USSR and the Warsaw Pact are an example for you.

        So there, like you, everyone turned on. Here is the result.
        1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
          Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 24 January 2022 21: 27
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          No-no-no Just like you, the imperials dressed up as leftists ruled the USSR and grafted it to a logical outcome. And the republics were ruled by proven party members who, at the first opportunity, burned party cards and retrained as Elbasy.
    3. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
      Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 23 January 2022 16: 40
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      It is incorrect to compare the USSR in the 45th year and today's realities.
      Here, after all, the point is not in Ukraine, as such, it is, in fact, the whole battlefield, we are butting heads with the states. If you beat, then the leader. The jackals will run away on their own. And so, there will always be those who can be incited to Russia.
  • Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 23 January 2022 14: 22
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    In general, it is necessary to approach the process of relations with the West systematically.
    Recognize not only the DPR and LPR, but also Transnistria.
    As for communication with him, recall the situation with West Berlin.
    Accept Ossetia into the country. Let the Ossetians unite, finally.
  • AND Offline AND
    AND 23 January 2022 16: 06
    -2
    Quote: steel maker
    The author is right about one thing. A peaceful solution to the problem, called Ukraine, is no longer possible. And the longer this problem is not solved, the more problems there will be later. And what is most offensive is that Putin himself created this problem with his mediocre policy.
    "Mass protests and riots would help, the reason for which could be an increase in food prices, gas and other tariffs"
    But with this it was necessary to start a long time ago and immediately! And not to increase trade. But, for Putin, the loot is higher than the interests of Russia and the life of Russians. .

    You have Steelevar as always, give you the same emotions, mass protests and riots. You have to stay human. How not to increase trade? According to you, your pension is not enough all the time, but why should you pay it if you do not increase trade? Apparently Putin only thinks about you.
  • Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 23 January 2022 16: 48
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    Quote: Oleg Rambover
    They are not supervised there, they are interested in cooperation.

    That the Japanese have become interested in cooperation since 1945? I do not think. Then yes, to some extent. But American military bases still remain in Japan and Germany. So the Americans simply do not count on cooperation. Are insured.
  • Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 23 January 2022 16: 50
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    Quote: Oleg Rambover
    I am not sure that the genocide of a part of Ukrainians is what is needed to normalize relations between our countries.

    Read what genocide is before using this word.
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 24 January 2022 13: 33
      +1
      Olezhka Pitersky still took me to teach jurisprudence bully
  • Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 23 January 2022 16: 59
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    Quote: Oleg Rambover
    I don’t know where you got the idea that the Ukrainians are former, and even more so that they are on “our” side, but the pro-Russian forces in Ukraine have been consistently losing all elections for the past seven years.

    Former because Ukraine, which was created in the USSR, is long gone.
    There is a nationalist misunderstanding on the territory of the former Ukraine.

    As for losing the election... You have a strange logic: the pro-Russian forces lost the election, which means they don't exist at all.
    I didn’t write that the majority are for Russians, for Russia, etc. I wrote - a significant part. And it is.
    An even greater part does not want war, confrontation, enmity. And only a small part, which I called Bandera, hates Russians, Russia. As well as Jews, Poles, and their own, dissidents, too.
    We will destroy this part, despite your love for them.
    Such passionate love that you regard this insignificant part of the population as the whole nation.
  • Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 23 January 2022 17: 07
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    Quote: Oleg Rambover
    There is a difference, then they attacked us and the USSR won. It tried on the Germans as aggressors (whom to blame but themselves) and tried on the Soviet people as winners.

    Nonsense. The Germans did not consider themselves to be guilty. It was only later that their Americans, but the Jews "educated".
    They considered themselves losers and nothing more. It was their descendants who began to repent en masse, and to pay money to Jews for the Holocaust. The Russians were simply winners for them. At first they were tolerated, and later they began to cooperate. What is the GDR, what is the FRG. Time has passed and the hatred of the citizens of the USSR towards the Germans has also passed.
    The same Japanese forgave the Americans for their atomic bombs. So time will pass and there will be new relationships.

    At the same time, I personally do not care about the love of the inhabitants of the former Ukraine. This desire of the former Soviet people (for everyone to love us) is very harmful for international relations.
  • Valera75 Offline Valera75
    Valera75 (Valery) 23 January 2022 17: 39
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    At the same time, it should be taken into account that all the past years, the Ukrainian military was trained by NATO instructors, they gained real combat experience in the Donbass, the level of controllability of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has increased significantly

    I won’t try to underestimate the abilities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but what experience did they gain in the Donbas? Shoot from mortars through the gray zone at residential buildings and Donbas infrastructure? Those Armed Forces of Ukraine that gained experience there after boilers have long been in the grave or drug addicts or people with disabilities.
    1. Mikhail L. Offline Mikhail L.
      Mikhail L. 23 January 2022 18: 32
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      Combat-ready units are created in battles, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine have been re-equipped and retrained.
      Western "friends" will try to undermine the Russian economy in order to provoke the Maidan and establish puppet power in the Russian Federation!
  • Starik59 Offline Starik59
    Starik59 (Starik) 23 January 2022 21: 00
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    Whose side is the author on? The war with Ukraine is not a war at all as such!! For the majority of the population of this country, so to speak, will meet the Russians as liberators! The rest of us don't care! Another thing is that these ruins will have to be restored as after the Second World War, all under the same sanctions !!
  • ivar.zhukov Offline ivar.zhukov
    ivar.zhukov (Ivar Zhukov) 23 January 2022 21: 18
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    I'm probably not the first to say, why does Russia need this Ukraine? It hangs like ballast on the feet of the United States, well, let it hang, in the end they will get rid of it themselves. And the more it hangs on the Americans, the more profitable it is for Russia.
    1. Valera75 Offline Valera75
      Valera75 (Valery) 24 January 2022 05: 38
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      Let it hang on the legs of the United States, so the problem is not that the problem is that Ukraine is a foothold against Russia. There are bio laboratories and training bases with foreign instructors who cook this meat for sabotage and slaughter against Russia. That's the problem.
  • J_StaliNN Offline J_StaliNN
    J_StaliNN (Joseph) 23 January 2022 21: 30
    +1
    Interestingly, when the Baltic countries joined NATO on March 29, 2004, why did no one calculate the time of the missiles' arrival? Or is Latvia further from Moscow than Ukraine?
  • Siegfried Offline Siegfried
    Siegfried (Gennady) 23 January 2022 21: 50
    +1
    if it comes to war, it will not be a Russian, but a Ukrainian invasion. Large-scale invasion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. It can be assumed that the main part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine does not harbor hatred towards the inhabitants of the DNR and LNR. It is unclear to what extent they will comply with Zelensky's invasion orders. There is a big difference between "we are protecting Ukraine from Russian invasion" and "come on guys, here are the goals of the offensive, let's finally deal with the Muscovites and at the same time save my skin." That backbone of the right-wing radical forces of Ukraine, which will go on the offensive with pleasure, will be defeated, and this will be right. Unfortunately, there is still a part of the Ukrainians in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who were simply brainwashed, inspired by the image of Russia as an enemy of Ukraine. In any case, war is the most negative scenario for Russia. But there is no doubt that Russia will act only as a response to large-scale aggression.
    1. Moray Boreas Offline Moray Boreas
      Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 24 January 2022 05: 44
      +1
      You may be surprised, but the majority of the Nenki population hate the inhabitants of Donbass .. this is a fact
      1. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
        Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 24 January 2022 15: 12
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        I can't understand either.
        Where does such a stubborn faith come from that they will meet with flowers and throw caps into the air?
        Even if there were twenty percent, there would be Russophobes, this is already dofiga.
  • Panikovsky Offline Panikovsky
    Panikovsky (Mikhail Samuelevich Panikovsky) 23 January 2022 21: 54
    +2
    How lovely! SW. author, tomorrow, maximum the day after tomorrow, comrades from the Ministry of Defense will come to you and hoist you up to the post of chief of the general. headquarters, at the extreme head of the chapters. opera. management. Let me congratulate you on your appointment, your couch pan.
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 24 January 2022 13: 29
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      As you say, Panikovsky. Not the worst decision. hi
  • Gosha Smirnov Offline Gosha Smirnov
    Gosha Smirnov (Smirnov) 24 January 2022 03: 48
    +1
    "I'm an artist, I see it that way!". And logic is resting and complete nonsense. I'll start from the end. The Russian special services in / in Ukraine stupidly drive winds and no more. riots" are organized and paid for by the oligarchy and the powerful opposition, which has good ties over the hill. The oligarchs of Ukraine can organize another coup d'état, but it will not be pro-Russian for sure, just as there is NO pro-Russian opposition in the country as such. The Russian Federation in Ukraine has absolutely no one to rely on. A bunch of so-called rights in exile is just a neighing at most. And isolated riots do not represent anything dangerous for the authorities.

    The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation can and will have to launch an offensive along a broad front

    - why? To "shake the old days", returning to the warriors of the last century? Is Russia already lacking its territory?
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  • Moray Boreas Offline Moray Boreas
    Moray Boreas (Morey Borey) 24 January 2022 05: 43
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    You don't have to step on anyone. You just need to carry out precise surgical manipulations with critical subjects and objects, and not on the territory of the puppet, but on the territory of the puppeteers.
    1. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
      Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 24 January 2022 15: 17
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      Wander across the Balts.
      To die for them, still no one wants to. Although there will be a howl, to heaven.
      And since, everyone will see that, apart from screaming - nifiga, how long will NATO last at all
  • alexey alexeyev_2 (Alexey Alekseev) 24 January 2022 07: 05
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    She can win it. Without a doubt. We, as always, will not stand up for the price. But do we need it. It is strangling her GDP slowly. And this is enough
  • Siegfried Offline Siegfried
    Siegfried (Gennady) 24 January 2022 11: 39
    +1
    a war between fraternal peoples is the worst thing that could happen, and this is the work of these countries - the USA, England, Poland, the Baltic states. This cannot be forgiven. It is necessary to accuse these countries directly of instigating the war, pushing Ukraine to attack the Donbass. Anyone who gives the order to attack in Ukraine will also bear personal responsibility.
    Reports are coming in about Ukraine preparing for the start of hostilities. It remains to be hoped that there are enough people in the Armed Forces of Ukraine who understand what is happening.
  • DV tam 25 Offline DV tam 25
    DV tam 25 (DV tam 25) 24 January 2022 12: 01
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    Still, probably Ukraine should not be attacked. No, you must, of course you must! To burn all the equipment, so that it doesn’t drive, doesn’t fly, doesn’t swim (it swam, like ...). To hang these Natsiks on sweet cherries and lousy traitors in the dryers to grind, so that they would be afraid of the same sight and sound of Russian weapons and fight as they hear or see ... it is necessary ... BUT, most likely we will not. Still not an option. Don't care about America and their sexual partners, it's none of their business. Still, there are a lot of Russians in Ukraine, and therefore you will have to invest money in politics. Perhaps it will be no less than during the military liberation of Ukraine, maybe even more. We must remember the spy games of the 60-70s, build networks, educate politicians, have our own media, banks (what happened), etc. Those. routine Chekist work. And it's all money money money. Raise your own president of Ukraine, give him advertising, protect, etc. This type of civilized everything. Apparently this will have to be done. But what about Nazis and other manure? If the degree of tension is reduced, such as the war is postponed, etc., then the majority will flee to the EU, local hucksters, all sorts of Arabs, gypsies, etc. will be a nightmare there. Those. in Europe, another serious ethnic grouping will be added, there will be a redistribution of markets, spheres of influence, racketeering and all that. They have. Let them play). Those who do not leave will get drunk and sooner or later perish. The main thing is not to produce new ones. And there will be such a normal Ukraine, something like the sample of 2014, only poorer and less raguli. Although it would probably be better to kill them.
    1. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
      Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 24 January 2022 15: 22
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      Here it is quite normal.
      And here the turbopatriots have already pulled out their checkers, and they are going to throw Budenovkas at everyone.
  • Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 24 January 2022 13: 37
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    Quote: DV tam 25
    We must remember the spy games of the 60-70s, build networks, educate politicians, have our own media, banks (what happened), etc.

    Do you think we have eternity ahead of us? And you can calmly build something for years and decades? You are an optimist, to put it mildly.
    1. DV tam 25 Offline DV tam 25
      DV tam 25 (DV tam 25) 25 January 2022 04: 10
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      Eternity is not eternity, but in fact, everything is not so bad. It's just that no one is building anything in our country yet. That's how they start, I think we'll see and understand. But for now, everything is quiet. I am a realist, but I believe.
  • Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 24 January 2022 13: 40
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    Quote: Siegfried
    This cannot be forgiven. It is necessary to accuse these countries directly of instigating the war, pushing Ukraine to attack the Donbass.

    Sure sure. Just bombard them with accusations. Blame 7 times every day. And it is better to blame twenty times a day. And blame at night. Blame in chorus and individually. Catch a Lithuanian and accuse him a hundred times right in the face.
  • Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 24 January 2022 13: 43
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    Quote: Siegfried
    Anyone who gives the order to attack in Ukraine will also bear personal responsibility.
    Reports are coming in about Ukraine preparing for the start of hostilities. It remains to be hoped that there are enough people in the Armed Forces of Ukraine who understand what is happening.

    And the second thing to do is to hope. All together hope and individually. Hope in the morning, afternoon and evening. Putin, on the other hand, must hope intensely 7 times a day. Blamed our enemies and went to bed to better hope.
  • Uneven Offline Uneven
    Uneven (X) 24 January 2022 13: 54
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    The question is a little late - Russia "lost" Ukraine back in 2014.
  • Ugnaut Offline Ugnaut
    Ugnaut (Shnvshrshchrch Drchshrddch) 24 January 2022 15: 27
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    Here is the opinion of an expert and a senior NATO officer in Russian
    1. sH, arK Offline sH, arK
      sH, arK 24 January 2022 21: 16
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      Amazing bullshit!!! :-):-):-) Not a no-fly zone, but a complete blockade of Durkaine will be announced by Russia first of all! The war which has actually been declared! Russia just needs to officially accept this announcement! After that, not a single civilian aircraft or ship will enter or leave Durkaina! No warship or plane can safely arrive in the blockaded area where war is officially declared! All such vessels would be perfectly legitimate military targets! And only Russia can physically provide the useless zone - the USA and NATO were not even there!

      Well, it would be good for a sofa clown to know that, unfortunately, now not a single AUG can enter the Black Sea - read the Montreux Convention! Well, now it would be better to go in - there she will be calmed down at once! There are 14 lanes in Crimea, full-fledged, for heavy vehicles, up to Tu-22m3. This is a sentence for any AUG instantly! But unfortunately, in Black. No one will poke the sea - alas, there are no fools ... Well, except for the author of the video :-):-)
  • Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 24 January 2022 22: 45
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    Will Russia be able to win the fight for Ukraine?

    No.
    1. Teaser Offline Teaser
      Teaser (Vasiliy) 24 January 2022 23: 34
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      It can, no doubt. The only question is "the price of the issue": are those who are considered today the elite of Russia ready to pay a very high price for this? (There is no talk about the people, no one ever asks them).
    2. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 25 January 2022 05: 31
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      Will Russia be able to win the fight for Ukraine?

      Stupid, primitive, non-specific question. What victory?
      The right question is - will Russia be able to get rid of the risks of deploying NATO weapons in Ukraine?
      With the right question, it is easy to answer correctly.
      Will be able.
      Moreover, Russia will be able to place its missiles in Transnistria and the Odessa region. So that Europeans understand that such dangerous games can be played not only by them.
      After that, it is possible to agree on the withdrawal of NATO weapons from Poland and Romania. In exchange for the withdrawal of our missiles from Transnistria and the Odessa region.
      1. Energetik42 Offline Energetik42
        Energetik42 (Energetik42) 25 January 2022 11: 14
        -1
        And what will you do with the Baltics? Is the flight time of missiles also very short there? And what to do with the American nuclear submarines? Also demand their withdrawal from the ocean?
  • Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 25 January 2022 08: 46
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    Biden and Putin agreed.
    The United States surrenders Ukraine in exchange for Russia's neutrality during the conflict between the United States and China.

    What does Russia get? Postponement of the sentence and a slight increase at the expense of the economy and the population of the former Ukraine.

    What does the US get besides neutrality?
    Frightened Europeans will intensively buy weapons from the United States.
    During the conflict between the US and China (and later), tankers with gas from the US will go to Europe instead of China.
    Gas from the US will displace Russian.
    The very neutrality of Russia will allow the United States to transfer the conflict with China into the economic sphere, reducing military spending to acceptable levels.
  • Vissarion Golubov (Vissarion Golubov) 25 January 2022 10: 52
    -1
    So I want to ask the generals, did anyone participate at least somewhere?
  • Energetik42 Offline Energetik42
    Energetik42 (Energetik42) 25 January 2022 11: 06
    -1
    I read some comments ... Dear comrades, don’t you think that calls for an attack on another country, calls for ethnic cleansing, etc., this is Nazism against which our grandfathers fought !!
  • Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 25 January 2022 12: 00
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    Quote: Energetik42
    Dear comrades, don't you think that calls for an attack on another country, calls for ethnic cleansing

    Maybe it made sense for you to comment on these appeals using quotes that indicate the author? I suspect that you just need to make an accusation of Nazism.
    1. Energetik42 Offline Energetik42
      Energetik42 (Energetik42) 25 January 2022 15: 03
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      Read your own comments above ... But the question is different: the Nazis defined the enemy they want to destroy simply: you are not German, then the enemy, but how do you propose to determine who is a Banderaite and who is not, what are the criteria for selection and, accordingly, destruction as an enemy?
      1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 25 January 2022 17: 31
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        The destruction of the Nazis, Bandera, Trotskyists has nothing to do with ethnic cleansing.
        You just don't understand the words you use. And you write nonsense about the Nazis. And the absolute:

        the Nazis defined the enemy they want to destroy simply: you are not a German, then the enemy.

        I will not comment on your writings anymore.
  • Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 25 January 2022 12: 04
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    Quote: Energetik42
    And what will you do with the Baltics? Is the flight time of missiles also very short there?

    Flying time for what? How many times (it seems they write according to the training manual) I read this nonsense.
    Yes, Peter is close. And Kaliningrad is under attack.
    But Moscow and other major cities have time to defend themselves.
    It is proposed, as I understand it, to spit on the security of other regions of Russia, since St. Petersburg is already under attack.
    Wonderful logic. Enemy logic.
    1. Energetik42 Offline Energetik42
      Energetik42 (Energetik42) 25 January 2022 15: 12
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      That is, you propose to ensure security by seizing neighboring countries and blackmailing? Did the Cuban Missile Crisis teach you anything? The Americans were already going to withdraw the Jupiter missiles from Turkey, and the USSR plunged into history. And further, you will say that, on the other hand, the United States pledged not to overthrow Castro, so what? Has it become easier for ordinary Cubans? In peacetime, Cuba had food cards, poverty was worse than our 90s. If everything was so good, why did the Cubans drape in the USA?
  • Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 25 January 2022 15: 26
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    Quote: Energetik42
    That is, you propose to ensure security by seizing neighboring countries and blackmailing? Did the Cuban Missile Crisis teach you anything?

    And what did the USSR capture Cuba? As far as I remember, there were several US attempts to take over Cuba.
    And how many times they tried to kill Fidel, do not count.

    And about the capture of your country, you are wrong. Nobody will capture you.
    They will divide into parts until either friendly or neutral power appears in these parts. And until the rights of Russians become the same as those of the rest of the population.
    1. Energetik42 Offline Energetik42
      Energetik42 (Energetik42) 25 January 2022 22: 24
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      Maybe first, establish equality in the Russian Federation? Take care of your problems... Whether you accept it or not, the West is much more attractive to young people. By the way, you didn’t answer why the Cubans fled from that paradise that the USSR and Castro established by swimming across the sea, risking their lives to escape? I mean that attempts to free someone by force lead to the fact that, at a minimum, they will run away from such a release. LDNR melts like ice in a pan ...
  • Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 25 January 2022 15: 31
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    Quote: Energetik42
    The Americans were already going to withdraw the Jupiter missiles from Turkey, and the USSR plunged into history.

    In vain you count on fools. The reason for the crisis was the deployment of missiles in Turkey. And after the crisis they were removed.
    Stupid tales that the Americans first placed missiles in Turkey, and six months later they were going to remove them, but at the same time the Russians were told that they would never remove them - tell your fellow IQs.
    1. Energetik42 Offline Energetik42
      Energetik42 (Energetik42) 25 January 2022 22: 27
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      If NATO and the US are such aggressors, why didn't they start a war when they had an overwhelming advantage in the quantity and quality of nuclear warheads and carriers? And then something is going to attack, they are going to and will not gather in any way.
      laughing
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  • kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 31 January 2022 13: 01
    -1
    Bredyatin. Ukraine must be brought to a state where it can simply be divided among its neighbors. Why conquer it? Feed millions of parasites?