Why Putin chose the tactic of public ultimatums in the confrontation with the United States

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В previous In this article, I tried to draw your attention to how the rhetoric of the Russian Foreign Ministry changed at the end of 2021. More and more distinctly, metallic notes began to be heard in his voice, more and more it began to replace the Ministry of Defense, coming to the forefront of the war with the united West. It all began with Putin's speech at the expanded collegium of the Russian Foreign Ministry on November 18 last year, when he called on diplomats to intensify their efforts to convey Moscow's line to its sworn “partners”. Putting a trolley with Lavrov in front of a heavy armored train of the Ministry of Defense, which, as you know, in our siding, installed a turret machine gun on it for better assimilation of the material, Putin tried in this way to convey to the collective West that it is better to negotiate with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs than with Shoigu ... We, too, do not have to regret it, since a month of negotiations is better than a day of war.

At the same time, both Lavrov and Putin drew the attention of our precious "partners" to the fact that they do not intend to conduct aimless, long-playing empty negotiations. Either the conversation is on the merits, or Russia will be forced to take military and military-technical measures. And here the eyes of the West widened, what does the Kremlin mean? What scares Moscow? Anyway, it is better to talk with Lavrov than with Shoigu. In the West, everyone knows very well how a diplomat differs from a general - if a diplomat should never say “no,” then a general never says “maybe”, only “yes” and “no”. At the same time, from Biden's quick reaction, it became clear that he already knew exactly what he was scaring the Kremlin with. It was only a European and American man in the street who consumed the stale products of their own media, and were at a loss whether the possessed Putin would start a war in Ukraine or move his strategic missiles into the territory of the Republic of Belarus, conclude a militarypolitical an alliance with China or will it base its bases in Latin America in the soft underbelly of the United States?



No, guys, everything is much more prosaic and much more scary for the United States. You know very well that Putin does not waste his words. Bluff is not his method. If he is threatening, then he has a strong card up his sleeve. By the reaction of Washington, you can already judge for yourself how strong it is. Please note that in both cases, the initiator of the summits with the Russian Federation was the American side. What prevents Sleepy Joe from sleeping peacefully? I will talk about this a little later, but for now I would like to return to what forced Putin to such a diplomatic demarche. You must admit that only a person who has clearly calculated his actions and has chosen the most opportune moment can present ultimatums to Washington. Putin is just such a person.

Putin ferstein


A whole generation of politicians has already grown up in the West, which is simply not able to understand Putin and, accordingly, to calculate his actions. It is easier for them to declare him a fiend of hell, a man from a parallel reality, a paranoid, raving about the ideas of the revival of the Soviet empire, an apologist for the forces of Evil, and therefore an existential enemy of the collective West and all the forces of Good behind it, than to try to get to the bottom of the truth. I can help them, as well as everyone who has been unsuccessfully struggling with the mystery of Putin's personality for more than 20 years. Having started in 2000 with the question: "Hu of Mr. Putin?"

To all our sworn "friends and partners" in order to solve this problem, I would like to advise you to pay attention to some features of the psychological portrait of Putin, to whom a whole text was devoted (if desired read). I will not quote everything here, but I will give only a few psychological features of the President of the Russian Federation, so that you understand that he is not joking at all now, putting forward his outrageous, from your point of view, demands on the collective West. Everything is as serious as it can be.

Putin belongs to the category of ethical-sensory introverts (ESI) - the “Guardian” subtype (Dreiser, ISFJ). This is neither good nor bad, this is an objective fact, take it for granted. In the text given at the link, this psychotype is considered from all sides, here I will give only what is important for you to understand in order to understand the logic of its actions and accordingly measure the degree of threats for you personally.

Withstand, rarely plays ahead of the curve, waits until the critical point comes, but after it he acts backhand, extremely tough. Knows how to teach the offender a lesson, consistently increasing the force of pressure on him. Does not stop until he feels panic and a drop in the opponent's morale. He cannot be intimidated or provoked. He would never allow himself to be taken by surprise. Always ready for unforeseen circumstances. He remembers well the mistakes and shocks of the past, from which he quickly learns lessons. If he has already decided to take revenge, he will hit the enemy's most vulnerable spot.

I draw your attention to the fact that this psychotype never plays the first number, waits for the enemy's actions, is prone to patience, bordering on masochism, but after the enemy passes a certain critical point, it acts instantly, extremely decisively and extremely harshly (the socionics who make up this psychological portrait even used the word "backhand", and they wrote it, you yourself understand, not under Putin, but described a general tendency). Moreover, for the answer he chooses the most vulnerable point and never stops until the enemy is smeared on the floor. At the same time, ESI prefers to systematically increase pressure. No wonder Putin is compared to a boa constrictor. His proposals, each of which is worse than the previous one, are already legendary. Everyone knows about them, but they do not draw conclusions. Biden, in my opinion, is the first to take this factor into account.

By the way, Putin's training in martial arts also leaves an imprint on his behavior - he often uses the inertia of the enemy, putting him on the floor with minimal effort under the weight of his own weight. In the practice of judo and aikido, this is elevated to the rank of philosophy and general concept. At the same time, this psychotype cannot be intimidated or, more importantly, provoked. Anyone who invites Putin to the war with Ukraine should have taken this circumstance into account. Moreover, his rebuff is always proportional to the degree of aggression. Better not to tempt!

And what is equally important, ESI is always ready for unforeseen circumstances and learns from its own mistakes. Therefore, the Maidan in Belarus was doomed. Putin has learned from the Ukrainian Maidan. He will not repeat such mistakes again. The enemies of the Russian Federation need to change their tactics.

Vyshinsky's case


Now that you have already understood that Putin is not joking, I wanted to explain why he chose the tactics of public ultimatums. Agree, a rather dangerous tactic - what if they refuse? It is one thing when they refuse quietly, under the carpet, it is quite another thing when it is public, in front of everyone. Even the impenetrable Putin may not survive such reputational losses. Why take such a risk? After all, Putin has never been inclined to actions of an adventurous nature and has not been previously noticed in the craving for unjustified risks. This means that it was impossible to act differently, and if he did it, then the risks were calculated. This means that Putin has weighty arguments up his sleeve that cannot be overcome. Yes, there is, but about them a little later.

In the meantime, I wanted to explain why Putin made such a diplomatic demarche, using the example of our recent history, and more specifically, using the example of Vyshinsky's incident. You all know that on April 4, 1949, a military-political NATO bloc was created with the aim of protecting Europe from Soviet influence. Immediately after its creation, it included 12 countries - the USA, Canada, Iceland, Great Britain, France, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Norway, Denmark, Italy and Portugal (now there are already 30 NATO members!). Throughout the history of NATO, the Soviet Union tried to join it several times. The first time this happened in 1949, even before the creation of the block. Then the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the USSR Andrei Vyshinsky, mediated by the British Communist Party, sent a note to London with a proposal to discuss Moscow's participation in organizing the ideological predecessor of NATO - the Western European Union. A negative answer then allowed Stalin to call this bloc "a dig under the UN."

The second time the USSR thought about joining NATO already in 1952, after Turkey joined it, which created a threat to the USSR from the south. During a meeting with the French ambassador Louis Joxes, Stalin, having heard that President Charles de Gaulle viewed the alliance exclusively as a peaceful organization, ironically asked Vyshinsky: "Should we not join NATO then?" But then it did not come to filing an application.

For the third time, everything was already official. On March 31, 1954, the USSR submitted an official note to the governments of the United States, Great Britain and France with a petition for membership in the North Atlantic Alliance. The message recalled that it was the formation of military blocs that preceded both world wars. By approving the Soviet application, in Moscow's opinion, the Western powers would demonstrate the peaceful goals of the project, and not a clear orientation against the USSR, of which they were reasonably suspected. Simultaneously with the USSR, the Ukrainian SSR and the Byelorussian SSR submitted separate applications for NATO membership. It would be funny if Ukraine was accepted then, having refused the USSR and the BSSR. But at that time the West did not think of this before. The Soviet initiative was categorically rejected, and as an excuse it was proposed that we leave Germany and Austria, abandon military bases in the Far East and sign disarmament agreements. Since this counter-proposal was initially impracticable (which the West knew very well about!), A constructive conversation did not work out.

But the USSR did not count on the construct at all. He pursued completely different tasks. In the West, this was called the binary trap of Molotov (then our Minister of Foreign Affairs). As the American press wrote at that time, "Soviet diplomacy, headed by Vyacheslav Molotov, played a cunning combination, any outcome of which was beneficial to the USSR in its own way." Indeed, in the event of a positive response, the Soviet Union not only stood on one side with its recent adversaries, but also acquired the ability to "expose NATO's true aspirations from within." With a more readable refusal of the West to take Moscow into its command, it could declare provoked isolation and get an excuse to create its own military organization. Which, in fact, happened in 1955, after the FRG joined the North Atlantic bloc. On May 9, West Germany became a member of NATO, and on May 14, the Warsaw Pact Organization appeared in opposition to it, which included 8 countries - Albania, Bulgaria, Hungary, the German Democratic Republic, Poland, Romania, the USSR and Czechoslovakia.

I have brought these historical parallels here in order to show the respected assembly what goals Putin pursued by publicizing his proposals to the West. With this move, he drove him into a trap, akin to the Molotov binary trap. And one cannot refuse so as not to be accused of the aggressiveness of its intentions, because Russia proposes to disarm both sides and retreat to the previous pre-confrontational positions, but it also does not work out to agree with Moscow's proposals without losing face, for the States this means revising the results of the Cold War, in which they consider themselves winners, which is unacceptable for them under any sauce. Putin actually puts Biden on a twine. Sleepy Joe has only one way out - to offer, in response, deliberately impracticable conditions for Moscow. But Putin has provided for this option, in this case he reserves the right to retaliate military and military-technical nature. And this is worse for the States than even the loss of face, take my word for it. Only you do not know about them, and Joe's grandfather is well informed about them. That is why he agrees to negotiations without any preconditions. Now Putin's task will be to solve his own problems and to allow Grandpa Joe to save face.

In order not to be accused of being unfounded, some of these measures of a military and military-technical nature are being discussed, I will cite here as a hint an anecdote from the period of the Sino-Vietnamese armed confrontation.

TASS report: “Today the Soviet tractor Belarus, peacefully plowing a Vietnamese field, was fired upon by Chinese extremists. To which he responded with a salvo of three ballistic missiles and quickly disappeared into outer space. The collective farm chairman, Major General Sinitsin, said that from now on, such incidents will be resolved with the help of Soviet Niva vertical take-off combines. "

From this anecdote to the quick-witted reader, something already becomes clear. At least two things. Uncle Vova has something that Grandpa Joe knows about and that keeps him awake. Moreover, Uncle Vova does not hide it. At least personally, I heard it from him twice. Sergei Shoigu and the chief of our General Staff, Valery Gerasimov, announced this several times. At the same time, for all the distrustful, a video was attached (how the video differs from cartoons, you know!). Moreover, Putin has twice publicly stated why he would be forced to take these measures. Again, in plain text (I will attach the video in the next text). Putin always plays openly. The opposing side simply left him no other option - behind, as Putin said, Moscow. And it was not a figure of speech. Why you did not pay attention to these words, I do not know.

I just know something that the United States has, and how they can really threaten Moscow, moreover, the word Moscow is not a generalized image of Russia, but a very specific city, the capital of the Russian Federation. The only thing the United States lacks is time. And Putin will not give them this time. That is why events are now spinning at such a frantic speed. That is why Putin does not give time to think. Either now we are theirs, or then they are us. If for this it will be necessary to start a war in Ukraine, we will start it without even thinking. We have no other choice! About all the details next time.

Yes, I almost forgot, the second thing that had to be understood from the above joke is that China is not our friend at all. So, a temporary ally. He will not fight for us in any case. Will sit and wait to see how our war with America will end. America, too, is not going to surrender at our mercy. If in order to win she has to start a war in Ukraine with the hands of our non-brothers, she will start it, too, without hesitation. This is the least that they can donate. Moreover, they will not need Zelensky's consent for this at all. The war will be started by completely different people who do not obey this clown. But more on that in the next text. Not saying goodbye.
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  1. -16
    6 January 2022 19: 25
    You know very well that Putin does not waste his words.

    Yes, we know well.



    The only thing the United States lacks is time.
    ...
    That is why Putin does not give time to think.
    Either now we are theirs, or then they are us.

    How would it be a violation of logic, if the United States does not have time now, then how do they then us? And then they will have it?
    If the United States does not have time, then it is logical to delay it. If Putin accelerates the event, then the RF has no time. Logically, it should be like this. Not?

    If for this it will be necessary to start a war in Ukraine, we will start it without even thinking.
    ...
    If in order to win she has to start a war in Ukraine with the hands of our non-brothers, she will start it, too, without hesitation.

    You are a citizen of Ukraine. It's strange to want war in your home.
    And what happens, both sides need a war? It means it is inevitable. Only it is not clear how it can be beneficial to both parties at the same time.
    1. +7
      6 January 2022 20: 06
      How would it be a violation of logic, if the United States does not have time now, then how do they then us? And then they will have it?

      noticed that most of all people who do not know the Russian language like to teach logic - the word "logicI" is written in this case through "AND". "What a pity that all people who know how to run the state already work as hairdressers or taxi drivers" (Francois Mitterrand)
      We figured out the grammar, now to the logic, if we give the States time, then they are us. If we don’t give it, then we will. Then time may not appear, it cannot appear at all, it flows in spite of everything, then something will appear with which they can blackmail us. Until then, Putin is blackmailing them. And while this process is going on, the war in Ukraine is being postponed. But if he fails, then both sides will be able to activate it. "Nobody wanted war, but war was inevitable" (c). Why is inevitable, you will understand from the 3rd text
      1. +3
        6 January 2022 20: 24
        Quote: Volkonsky
        ... now to logic, if we give the States time, then they have us. If we don’t give it, then we will.

        Volkonsky, this is also not logic. This is Ana-us. laughing
        It seems to me that Olezhek is cunning. Yes
      2. -10
        6 January 2022 22: 52
        Which is logical, which is logical, but there is no logic.
        Something I did not notice, that I would give advice on government, probably happened by accident.

        Quote: Volkonsky
        if we give the States time, then they are us. If we don’t give it, then we will.

        Then the RF has no time. Logically. On the contrary, the USA needs time.



        Quote: Volkonsky
        no matter what, then there will be something with which they can blackmail us. Until then, Putin is blackmailing them.

        Ahhh ... Wunderwaffe. You know, it's scary. If we draw historical parallels, talk about the wunderwaffe in the Third Reich began when his affairs became seams. In addition, it is difficult for me to imagine any weapon capable of fundamentally changing the parity between the Russian Federation and the United States. Since the days of the USSR, we can destroy the United States. And that a new wunderwaffe could destroy America again after a good old ballistic missile?
        Or will it allow you to destroy it with impunity? Strongly doubtful.

        I remembered for a long time what your articles remind me, I remembered

        Before his eyes was a map of Africa. He saw the movement of the armies graphically:
        the black arrow directed menacingly down to the south, the white arrow moved horizontally to the east, cutting off the tail of the black one. As if seeking confirmation, he raised his gaze to the calm face in the portrait. Is it conceivable that the second arrow does not exist at all?

        1984 George Orwell
        1. +7
          7 January 2022 00: 02
          tell these fables to Biden, about the wunderwaflu and the FSE, Hitler only dreamed of her, but Putin already has it, do you feel the difference? how Putin spent his time, you can determine by the behavior of the States, in 2007, in 2018 and now, if then they only laughed, who is Putin? How many divisions does he have? we were laughing over cartoons, but now it’s not funny! Why didn't Biden send Putin with his ultimatum, as George W. Bush did in 2007? because it's scary! the one who shoots last laughs well !! right now we can talk with the States from a position of strength, which is what we are doing! and your destiny is only to plump on your couch, well, grunt, grunt, and we’ll get down to business for now
          1. -4
            7 January 2022 15: 45
            Quote: Volkonsky
            tell these fables to Biden, about the wunderwaflu and the FSE, Hitler only dreamed of her, but Putin already has it, do you feel the difference?

            You were simply not interested in the question, dreams were produced on an industrial scale, Messerschmitt Me.262, Arado Ar 234 Blitz, Panzershrek, StG 44, FG-42, Henschel Hs 293, V-1, V-2 (the first man-made object to enter space) , submarines of the XXI / XXIII series. But all these things could not fundamentally change anything. War is primarily a struggle of resources. Whoever has more resources wins. And the allies totally outnumbered the Axis countries in all resources.
            From the late 40s to the early 60s, the United States was orders of magnitude superior to the USSR in real wunderwaffe nuclear weapons and their means of delivery. So what? And not what.

            Quote: Volkonsky
            Putin used his time, you can determine by the behavior of the States, in 2007, in 2018 and now, if they only laughed then, who is Putin? How many divisions does he have?

            Putin has a lot to be proud of, if Boris Nikolayevich has reduced the number of warheads by half, then Putin during his rule by more than 3. Undoubtedly, he is a great man in this regard. But still, for one American city with a population of 100 thousand, there are four charges. So it's not clear what fundamentally changes your mythical Wunderwaffe.

            Quote: Volkonsky
            the one who shoots last laughs well !! right now we can talk with the States from a position of strength, which is what we are doing!

            You should have listened to how Kim Jong-un speaks with the states, Putin is no match for him. This is the plan. There is still something to strive for.

            Quote: Volkonsky
            and your destiny is only to plump on your couch, well, grunt, grunt, and we’ll get down to business for now

            Do you start to cheat? That is, you have no normal arguments left. Expected.
            "Who are "we? Wunderwaflu went to do? Flag in hand drum on the neck.
            1. +4
              7 January 2022 16: 17
              "Who are "we? Wunderwaflu went to do? Flag in hand drum on the neck.

              I have already answered one comrade who takes the word WE literally

              another connoisseur of the Great Mighty? Or was it not taught in your vocational school? In this case, WE means a country, the Russian Federation, but here it all comes down to Putin, you can't sleep without him! The cat abandoned the kittens - it's Putin's fault ...

              You were simply not interested in the question, dreams were produced on an industrial scale, Messerschmitt Me.262, Arado Ar 234 Blitz, Panzershrek, StG 44, FG-42, Henschel Hs 293, V-1, V-2 (the first man-made object to enter space) , submarines of the XXI / XXIII series. But all these things could not fundamentally change anything. War is primarily a struggle of resources. Whoever has more resources wins. And the allies totally outnumbered the Axis countries in all resources.

              At the beginning of the war, the allies with all their resources sat with their tails between their legs and prayed to God that Hitler would get bogged down in the USSR. Something did not help Hitler much resources of all of Europe, working for him, at the beginning of the war. In wars, the winner is the one who does not have a dog's blood in his veins. The Russians have proven this with their entire history. But you are not Russian - you are a mattress topper. I hope Biden will take you into account in his will.
              1. -4
                7 January 2022 19: 29
                Quote: Volkonsky
                WE in this case means the country, the Russian Federation

                But you, unlike me, are not a citizen of the Russian Federation. If you work in Ukraine, then you work for Ukraine, for its GDP, for its budget, for its Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Security Service of Ukraine. What does the Russian Federation have to do with it? What do you have to do with her?

                Quote: Volkonsky
                At the beginning of the war, the allies with all their resources sat with their tails between their legs and prayed to God that Hitler would get bogged down in the USSR.

                Again, you were not interested in the question. At the beginning of World War II, there were no allies. For the first two years, Britain almost single-handedly fought Nazi Germany. Its main weapon was the economic blockade of the Reich. But there was a huge hole in this blockade, the friendly neutrality of the Stalinist USSR. Through this hole came a lot of strategic materials that allowed Germany to hold out longer for the same two years. By the beginning of the war, England had 600 tanks (for comparison, the USSR had about 20 thousand, Germany had 5,5 thousand), in the USA there was practically no army. But the economic power of Britain and America allowed them in the shortest possible time to create a powerful army and also supply a large amount of equipment and weapons to the USSR.

                Quote: Volkonsky
                Something did not help Hitler much resources of all of Europe working for him at the beginning of the war.

                Judging by the fact that his army was at Stalingrad, then yes, it helped quite well. But here I agree with you. The cost of occupation eats up a lot of resources, plus productivity in the occupied countries drops dramatically. The occupation pays for itself poorly.

                Quote: Volkonsky
                In wars, the winner is the one who does not have a dog's blood in his veins. The Russians have proven this with their entire history.

                Tell me, 30 years before that, during the Russian-Japanese war, it was not the Russians who fought? During WWI, weren't the Russians fighting? Why did Russia lose? Or was there another blood in the Soviet-Polish war? In the end, the Cold War is also a war, if you are over 50, you can say it is a participant, is everything all right with your blood?
                These conversations that someone has the right blood, someone has the wrong blood, have already been conducted in the last century. It all ended very badly. Including for the country in which such conversations were conducted. And for ours.
                You wouldn't be reading history.

                Quote: Volkonsky
                But you are not Russian - you are a mattress topper. I hope Biden will take you into account in his will.

                You got it all mixed up, you are not Russian, but Ukrainian. And I’m just Russian. Russians, as those who suffered the most from Nazism, cannot promote Nazi ideas about the right blood.
                Again you are rude. Knows rudeness is a sign of a narrow-minded mind. This means essentially nothing to say. You are also talking nonsense, which also characterizes you from a bad side.

                PS Something we have moved away from the topic. Still, can you explain what fundamentally changes your wunderwaffe in the alignment of forces? Or will you reveal this in your next article?
                1. +1
                  7 January 2022 23: 48
                  But you, unlike me, are not a citizen of the Russian Federation. If you work in Ukraine, then you work for Ukraine, for its GDP, for its budget, for its Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Security Service of Ukraine. What does the Russian Federation have to do with it? What do you have to do with her?

                  I already answered, Russia is not a foreign country to me and I do not work for Ukraine, there is no work at all, there is no need to confuse the freaks who took power here with the help of a coup d'etat, with people living here by the will of fate, for me Ukraine has been since 2014 as a country - No!

                  uncle, what are you proud of? that you were born in the Russian Federation? what is your merit here? I was born in the USSR and fought for it at that time, and Russia is my Motherland as well as yours, and the fact that the Union collapsed is not my personal fault, this is a tragedy of the 20th century, to be a patriot of Russia, sitting in Voronezh, or Moscow, valor is not great, you try to be a patriot of the Russian Federation, sitting, like me, in Kharkov. For every word I say here a real term shines for me - from 5 years, and people are already sitting!

                  there was practically no army in the United States. But the economic power of Britain and America allowed them in the shortest possible time to create a powerful army and also supply a large amount of equipment and weapons to the USSR.

                  You also say that thanks to Lend-Lease we won the war

                  The cost of occupation eats up a lot of resources, plus productivity in the occupied countries drops dramatically. The occupation pays for itself poorly.

                  yeah, especially in the Czech Republic, they worked even better under the Nazis than under the previous leadership, just like the Benelux countries

                  during the Russo-Japanese war, did not the Russians fight? During WWI, weren't the Russians fighting? Why did Russia lose? Or was there another blood in the Soviet-Polish war?

                  Firstly, Russia did not lose in WWI, and secondly, Russia won all wars, where she was not the initiator of them, but was the defending side.

                  You got it all mixed up, you are not Russian, but Ukrainian. And I’m just Russian. Russians, as those who suffered the most from Nazism, cannot promote Nazi ideas about the right blood.

                  you don't have to take everything literally, I wrote about dog blood not from the point of view of the purity of the race, but from the point of view of the historical code of the nation
                  https://topcor.ru/6609-russkij-harakter.html
                  read this text

                  “Russian” is not a national category, but a purely spiritual one. “Russian”, in my understanding, is not a nationality, but a way of thinking, a special form of the existence of matter, conditioned not by genes and a set of chromosomes, but by the place of birth, where the name of the river is formed as a person. And this place is special! An empire that occupies 1/6 of the earth's land, crushing and crushing dozens of ethnic groups under itself, defending itself from raids, both from the west and from the east, withstanding at the same time, not falling apart, absorbing all the national characteristics of the peoples it conquered, and while preserving their national identity, giving written language to many of them and introducing them to world cultural values, it has the right to claim its own exclusivity and the right to be called Russian civilization. Moreover, it is Russian not by nationality, but by spirit. This is the essence of the uniqueness of the Russian soul and Russian character.

                  PS Something we have moved away from the topic. Still, can you explain what fundamentally changes your wunderwaffe in the alignment of forces? Or will you reveal this in your next article?

                  here some have already guessed, the solution will be in the 4th part, but already in the 3rd I will give an accurate aiming in order to disarm the enemy, you need to blind him, how to do this GDP showed on November 15, 2021
                  1. -3
                    9 January 2022 17: 26
                    Quote: Volkonsky
                    I already answered, Russia is not a foreign country to me and I do not work for Ukraine, there is no work at all, there is no need to confuse the freaks who took power here with the help of a coup d'etat, with people living here by the will of fate, for me Ukraine has been since 2014 as a country - No!

                    Do you live in a country that does not exist? Well, it happens.
                    Would you like to chat with Sapsan136

                    Quote: Sapsan136
                    Or do you think that today members of the Bandera families do not support the war crimes that the murderers from the UPA, Svoboda, Right Sector and similar organizations are committing against the Russian people ?! Yes, they are all fascists, they even have children poke around on cameras, pulling their hands in Hitler's greeting. These are not people, they are mad dogs, regardless of gender and age. As soon as these children grow up, they join the Bandera Hitler Youth ... they are not subject to re-education. In the USSR, they have already tried to re-educate them, with zero results.
                    Paying taxes on ATO is already a crime! Not providing assistance to victims of the Nazis is already a crime! So there are no innocent people there !!! Animals, not children !!! Stalin was wrong, believing that the children of fascists can become normal people, has been proven by time! The children and grandchildren of the undercut Hitler's lackeys grew up and again took up the old !!!

                    You pay taxes in Ukraine. According to the definition of the "Russian" patriot Sapsan136, you are a criminal against the Russian world. According to him, he is a member of the Krasnovskaya VVD organization and fought in the Donbass. I am sure, if anything, he will go to Kharkov in the forefront to administer "justice". Wait.
                    By the way, I am now in St. Petersburg carrying out an order from Kiev. Seek and find.
                    And who is sitting by the way?

                    Quote: Volkonsky
                    You also say that thanks to Lend-Lease we won the war

                    Of course not, but Lend-Lease helped save the lives of hundreds of thousands of Soviet citizens. But if in 42 Germany, instead of 250 submarines (intended for the battle for the Atlantic), let out say 100, then tanks and self-propelled guns she could release that year not 5500, but 8500 (stupid in weight). And then I have big doubts that the Manstein tanks would not have unblocked the 6th Army. And then the war would have lasted at least a year.
                    And if, as Hitler wanted, Germany and England made peace at 40. There was no battle for England, there was no battle for the Atlantic, there would be no African front, there would be no blockade of Germany, there would be no bombing of Germany, I have some doubts about the outcome of the war for the USSR. The resource balance would then not be in favor of the USSR. Especially if the first half of the war was just as unfortunate for the Red Army as in reality.

                    Quote: Volkonsky
                    yeah, especially in the Czech Republic, they worked even better under the Nazis than under the previous leadership, just like the Benelux countries

                    During the occupation, Kharkiv residents repaired German tanks at the Kharkov Tractor. Do you think they worked worse than the Czechs?

                    Quote: Volkonsky
                    First, Russia did not lose in WWI,

                    Well, if for you this is a victory with the loss of territories and a quarter of the population of the empire, then okay.

                    Quote: Volkonsky
                    Russia won all wars, where she was not the initiator, but was the defending side

                    Do you know the song



                    based on true events. The first battle of the Russo-Japanese War in which the Japanese attacked Russian ships. Russia has lost.
                    Soviet-Polish war. Who attacked whom can be discussed. But among patriotic circles they are confident that Poland. The RSFSR lost.
                    Was there something wrong with the blood? Are you sick?

                    Quote: Volkonsky
                    you don't have to take everything literally, I wrote about dog blood not from the point of view of the purity of the race, but from the point of view of the historical code of the nation

                    What's the difference. chromosomes or some anti-scientific codes of nations you meant. You say that there are the right peoples (with the correct blood of the prevailing historical code of the nation) and not the right people (with the dog's blood of the wrong code of the nation). The rest is details.

                    Quote: Volkonsky
                    the solution will be in the 4th part, but already in the 3rd I will give an accurate aiming, in order to disarm the enemy, you need to blind him, how to do this GDP showed on November 15, 2021

                    Look forward to. What did Putin do on November 15? Something I did not find.
                    1. +1
                      10 January 2022 02: 25
                      this is my last answer to you - there will be no more discussions!
                      1) I don’t pay taxes in Ukraine, because I don’t work for it, I communicated well with the peregrine falcon in PM, there are no problems, we are on the same side of the barricades
                      2) Putin personally said that even without allies we would have won the war, do you have any doubts? I do not have! although I understand that you personally would not mind us losing
                      3) the tractor plant was evacuated to Altai, to Rubtsovsk, my father worked at it at that time, the entire machine park was taken out, on which the Germans repaired their tanks, only you know
                      4) Russia did not lose WWI, the revolution forced her to leave the war, she fought on the side of the victorious bloc of countries, your conclusions are stupid, just like you
                      5) the word "found nothing" - is written together and through AND, nothing
                      1. -2
                        10 January 2022 16: 15
                        Quote: Volkonsky
                        this is my last answer to you - there will be no more discussions, tired of communicating with idiots!

                        Who raised you? They should be ashamed.
                        I liked the statement of one of our members of the forum here

                        Quote: isofat
                        the dumber a person is, the faster he condescends to insults.

                        Neither reduce nor add.

                        Quote: Volkonsky
                        1) I don’t pay taxes in Ukraine, because I don’t work for it, I communicated well with the peregrine falcon in PM, there are no problems, we are on the same side of the barricades

                        That is, you live in a dugout on a pasture, because you do not go to the store, do not pay the communal apartment, property tax, car tax, excise taxes. Where do you get the Internet from then?
                        If Sapsan is your friend, then there are no questions. Tell me who your friend is and I will tell you who you are. He's going to kill Ukrainian children. To level the cities of Ukraine with hailstones for the fact that, with the tacit consent of their inhabitants, the ATO is carried out without even making out who is Russian and who is not (which is surprising for a Nazi). Then there are no questions about "dog's" blood. What to take from the Natsik. This also explains your fascist statement about penguins in your article.

                        Quote: Volkonsky
                        2) Putin personally said that even without allies we would have won the war, do you have any doubts? I do not have! although I understand that you personally would not mind us losing

                        Putin is usually capitalized.
                        But then you need to turn on your head. At least sometimes.
                        And you don’t have to come up with all sorts of nonsense for me. Again, this does not indicate a great mind.

                        Quote: Volkonsky
                        3) the tractor plant was evacuated to Altai, to Rubtsovsk, my father worked at it at that time, the entire machine park was taken out, on which the Germans repaired their tanks, only you know

                        Sorry, confused. I read it for a long time. https://www.drive2.ru/b/458029057414533610/
                        It was the Kharkov steam locomotive plant.

                        Quote: Volkonsky
                        4) Russia did not lose WWI, the revolution forced her to leave the war, she fought on the side of the victorious bloc of countries, your conclusions are stupid, just like you

                        For your rudeness, see above. Russia is spelled with a capital letter. Yes, yes, the loss of territory with a quarter of the empire's population is a brilliant victory. I don’t argue. As well as the Russo-Japanese war with the loss of half of Sakhalin and half of the entire fleet. Like the Soviet-Polish war with the loss of the western regions of Belarus and Ukraine. Everything will be fine. Just calm down and don't be angry. All diseases are from the nerves. Except for STDs. They are from love.
                        As there:

                        Jupiter, you are angry - that means you're wrong.
    2. +3
      6 January 2022 20: 32
      Oleg, people should not be hypnotized by the inevitability of war. Your efforts are clearly visible.
      1. +5
        6 January 2022 22: 47
        I think that the proven pulsed electromagnetic directional installation at a very long distance will be Putin's main trump card. After all, it is even easier to use it in height. Disabling, without the possibility of restoration, the US satellite system to turn all America's military equipment into a heap of scrap metal, and Biden is aware of this, hence the fuss on their part (and want to, and prick). Moreover, you won't have to shoot down ... I’m probably wrong, but I think that I’m still right.
        1. +7
          6 January 2022 23: 58
          The decision-making centers that V. Putin spoke about, I hope, have concluded that the risk of dying is now higher for them than for an ordinary infantryman. Much higher. Yes
          1. +2
            7 January 2022 19: 34
            By the way, yes. Decision-making centers. Many people think that it will be, for example, the Pentagon or the White House on Capitol Hill. I suppose that they will be hit at all in the last turn, and maybe they will even be left alive. Because they are not centers for making strategic decisions, but tools. The can is also a tool, it doesn't solve shit.
            Decision-making centers are scattered around the planet. They are available both in the USA and, for example, in Australia, in New Zealand, perhaps somewhere in Argentina and Brazil, on some inconspicuous islands with a mild and not very climate. In short, where they think real pots will sit out during a real war. Apparently, the location of most of the rat skerries has been determined and the correct coordinates have already been entered into the real delivery vehicles.
            Through Bidon, this secret knowledge was passed on to the fathers, they understood everything correctly about the possible prospect of their filthy seeds and began to fuss for their salvation.
            The main thing is to bring this matter to the end, to their end.
            1. 0
              7 January 2022 21: 26
              It is possible that decisions are made in one or two places. And what you mean is control centers. They also make decisions, but not about the beginning, continuation and end of the war.

              PS This is just my guess.
        2. +3
          7 January 2022 00: 06
          here is a comrade thinking in the right direction, almost guessed! the answer is in the 4th part, and this is the 2nd, in the 3rd there will be a reason for the concern of the Russian Federation, it will be explained why she went for broke, the reason is more than serious
          1. +1
            7 January 2022 02: 30
            My real personal story from one thousand nine hundred shaggy years (now I am 66 years old), when I studied in absentia at the Chita Polytechnic University, the Chief Engineer of the Udokan cinema in Chita studied with me in a group. For two years in a row, he went to St. Petersburg (then it was Leningrad) for advanced training courses for film engineers. From there, both times, I brought Soviet nickels pierced by a photon cannon with an ideal, as polished to mirror image, hole with a diameter of about 2 mm. He said that the cannon fired 40 shots from one, if anyone remembers such, a square 4,5 volt battery. I personally held these coins in my hands, so it's not blah blah blah. The last time after the next courses, he said that for convenience there the specialists made a cassette for 20 five-kopeck coins and stitched the entire cassette with one shot. All would be good, but the author of this gun decided to be published in scientific periodicals. The "specialists" arrived (of course, they did not give it to me), gave a scolding to the most I do not want and took him with them, and the gun was capitalized. For two years she (the photon cannon) was unattended by "serious uncles". These are the pies with kittens. But when was that? I think that now something more serious has been invented and "brought to life."
            1. +1
              8 January 2022 00: 01
              The photon cannon is called a laser.
              1. 0
                8 January 2022 17: 13
                It was an impulse device (shot-impulse) and probably the word "blaster" is more appropriate.
  2. -7
    6 January 2022 19: 46
    More like a laudatory ode to Putin. But with regard to China, absolutely sure.
  3. +5
    6 January 2022 20: 24
    "Or a conversation to the point" -?
    "Ultimatum" - by definition, implies refusal of further negotiations!
    The time has come and there are opportunities for tough rhetoric!
  4. -8
    6 January 2022 21: 29
    everything is familiar, confused, confused, incomprehensible.

    Uncle Vova has something that Grandpa Joe knows about and that keeps him awake

    I know something like that

    uncle Vova does not hide it

    etc.

    If for this it is necessary to start a war in Ukraine, we will start it without even thinking

    (like "grocer and cardinal" - will I and Putin start a war?)

    And in real life it looks like a classic trade. The seller asked for the maximum to bargain.
    Minimum 2-3 rounds, otherwise face loss. But not much more (on which Saddam got burned)
    1. +4
      6 January 2022 22: 24
      "If for this it is necessary to start a war in Ukraine, we let's start it without even thinking "(like" grocer and cardinal "- will I and Putin start a war?)

      another connoisseur of the Great Mighty? Or was it not taught in your vocational school? In this case, WE means a country, the Russian Federation, but here it all comes down to Putin, you can't sleep without him! The cat abandoned the kittens - it's Putin's fault ...
      Serge, you are a smart man, have you really not gotten the idea that Putin puts forward ultimatums with impossible demands not to bargain, but to get a refusal, after which his hands will be untied. And then you will see in Ukraine what you saw today in Alma-Ata
      1. -7
        6 January 2022 23: 32
        I am always "gladdened" by people who know for Putin what he decided, what he thinks ...
        Expert-telepathically, the stump is clear.

        Sometimes they later explain / make excuses why Putin did not act as they wrote / promised. More often, understandably. modestly forget ... less often - guess ...

        "You will see in Ukraine what you saw in Alma-Ata today" - they clearly promise for 3 years already, when the LDNR Ministry of Defense announced the date of the SBU attack for a whole year ...
        The State Department was already happily rubbing its hands when the sides tied themselves in blood ...
        Whether he will receive the next gift - the seizure of Ukraine - I would not want ...

        AlmaAta is protected by a treaty, come up with / don't come up with "sabotage groups straight from the State Department"

        Refusal or trade - we'll see ...
        1. +3
          7 January 2022 00: 14
          Expert-telepathically, the stump is clear.

          I don’t remember that I was voicing Putin’s thoughts, I’m trying to build a causal link, and if you have something, you can use telepathy yourself

          "You will see in Ukraine what you saw in Alma-Ata today" - they clearly promise for 3 years already, when the LDNR Ministry of Defense announced the date of the SBU attack for a whole year ...

          the level of analysis is below the plinth - the SBU does not go anywhere, they have only 2,5 thousand bayonets in the state, so they can only fight with women, and even then not with everyone
          1. +4
            7 January 2022 03: 03
            Vladimir, thank you for your deep analysis and interesting presentation of a very important topic. Do not pay attention to the so-called "opponents", apparently there are hohlobots from ceevropa, who are still looking for gold half-shoes and lace panties, to this day :) I like your systematic approach to the issue, I envy your knowledge in different areas. I absolutely agree with your definition of the psychotype of our President, I am convinced that we were certainly lucky with him, he himself was deeply immersed in the events of the nineties, saw where the policy of "integration into the world community" was leading our country. From the moment of the announcement of the "ultimatum", to which I was insanely surprised, while knowing that our President never commits rash acts, I puzzle over what kind of a trump card he has up his sleeve ... He is not the man to be so scattered with words, knowing what kind of abomination he has on the other side of the barricades. We remember very well for the entire centuries-old history of their methods of work: meanness, abomination, blood and misfortune of peoples for the benefit of their well-being. I am racking my brains all this time, I agree with your aforementioned arguments about South America and Belarus, yes, it's too small. There are two answers in my head: 1 - GUGI and their containers (Sakharov), and 2 - just sea containers where necessary. I look forward to your new articles.
            1. +4
              7 January 2022 03: 14
              Slava, you will laugh, but I myself am also from 404, and I do not hide this, so that you know that not all there are hereditary traitors and moral u * childbirth. But my homeland is the USSR, I was born in the USSR, I swore allegiance to the USSR and fought for the USSR, moreover, for real, and not like some here, without getting up from the couch. And therefore, like Putin, I am not scattering my lands, the time will come - we will return everything, and even the Tribaltic. So far, the GDP has been limited to the Republic of Belarus and Kazakhstan (today it has returned, and this is already for a long time). Track. next in line is my crazy homeland. Why will this happen already in the third part, and the solution to Putin's strength in the fourth? Spilling them. Comrade Sakharov has nothing to do with it, everything is much more banal, look at the sky, the threat to mattress mats will come from there!
              1. 0
                7 January 2022 03: 28
                I know where you are from, read :)
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  5. -11
    6 January 2022 23: 14
    He hopes that publicity will save him from The Hague, personally I do not mind that he got there for the surrender of Ukraine and Kazakhstan !!!
    1. +4
      6 January 2022 23: 34
      What is the Hague? In which place? Unless Lady Gaga ... Like the face of The Hague ...
  6. +4
    6 January 2022 23: 29
    I am sure that Putin and his team calculated the events in Elbasy for a long time ...
  7. +2
    6 January 2022 23: 55
    Wolf, it's not fair! request I was waiting for what the GDP has! And tractors and combines are too abstract. In my opinion, another Soviet joke is much closer:

    in the American TV news "... today at 11.00 the newest space shuttle collided with an asteroid when entering orbit ... the USA lost the spacecraft and the crew", the same day of TV USSR "... today at 11.00 the newest US space shuttle when leaving collided with an asteroid into orbit ... The US lost a spacecraft and crew. The asteroid's crew landed safely in the steppe of Kazakhstan ... "

    And about China - not everything is so simple, it is likely that they WILL fight for us. Because they know for sure that without us their States will devour 100%, but as long as we are, no
    1. +4
      7 January 2022 03: 02
      Lesh, I said, the solution is in the 3rd part, and in the 2nd, the plot, the continuation of the plotting, the denouement will be in the 4th part, but already with the 3rd you will close something if you check with Google for the dates, mind you, our friend a mattress pad with an imported nickname, which ends with a miner (see below), essentially cannot say anything, sniffs in two holes, and before that - how he breathed!
      1. +1
        7 January 2022 19: 32
        ... well, you created a straight series laughing when all the most interesting is always like in the next part ... laughing
  8. -11
    7 January 2022 00: 15
    Dear Author! Write more the same fun, please!
  9. +5
    7 January 2022 02: 58
    in fact, there may be various reasons why Russia has included in its demands deliberately impracticable conditions. It may seem that by this step Russia itself is proposing to start a cold war, without giving the United States an opportunity to come to an agreement without losing face. Perhaps given the outlook for the global economy and crises, Russia has decided that it is better prepared for the Cold War than its opponents. And this is actually the case. In the conditions of the Cold War, Russia can actually use energy resources as a weapon and all instruments of propaganda and destabilization. Russian society is much more consolidated, resistant to crises and will rally even more in the face of external threats. Russian society is adapted to difficult times. In Europe and in the United States itself, societies are not ready for serious crises. There are very serious protest potentials there. The Cold War will blow Western societies to hell, they are simply not ready for this. Moreover, the war - no one there is ready to fight, especially with Russia. The very threat of war may sweep away some Western governments, especially given that Russia has made it clear and loud that the aggression comes from NATO and the United States, and this will be quickly remembered in Europe. Europe is already shouting loudly that it does not want a cold war (even mumbling something about a tough answer if the RF Armed Forces go further than the second turn before Kiev).
    Maybe Russia is hinting more than really striving for a cold war. Perhaps they will be able to agree all the same, perhaps even without losing faces. But this will be a turning point in Russia-US relations. The West is not ready to confront Russia, their societies are not ready. Therefore, Russia has hinted that it is she, and not the West, who can arrange such pressure to "change the regime" that today's Kazakhstan will seem child's play to them.
  10. +1
    7 January 2022 10: 27
    Are all satellites straight for scrap? Interestingly, and then how to clear space from debris?
  11. +1
    7 January 2022 15: 02
    As V.V. Putin,
    so it will be here and there.
    He wants to stir up the water,
    and Obam will also want.

    Why did Putin choose the tactic of public ultimatums in the confrontation with the United States?

    He had been preparing this blow for our unforgettable partners for a long time and did not miss. Bravo!
  12. 0
    7 January 2022 15: 40
    Author!
    For those who do not understand the hints, you will have to add a "generalized president" to the portrait.
    VVP passed the casting (as in the cinema, theater, etc.) among many candidates for the presidency, while all candidates were checked for qualities that suit the clans of "elites", the main of which are:
    • not to allow the clans themselves to squabble as a result of their disassembly and competition;
    • find an acceptable solution for all clans of "elites", including "soft" in design;
    • not to "leave" those with whom he worked and interacted.
    The fact that VVP does not abandon his "friends" can be remembered about his attitude towards Sobchak when Sobchak was abroad, he was "squeezed out".
    If you remember the story of the former Defense Minister S. Ivanov, who at one time was "trained" for the possible occupation of the presidency, but he did not "justify" the hopes of the clans, for he showed his tougher approach to solving political problems. After that S. Ivanov moves to different positions and the media say practically nothing about him.
    The good-natured plan of life in Russia, which has been developing for decades, appeared as a rejection and reaction to the quiet coup d'etat in the USSR, staged by homegrown and foreign "elites" from 26.06.1953/04.10.1993/XNUMX (shooting from Beria's armored personnel carrier at dinner in the house) to XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX (shooting from tanks of the remnants of Soviet power in the White House).
    Many people who previously had a benevolent attitude to the GDP now have claims for his "harsh statements" about the USSR, about the current situation of disadvantaged people as a result of the course of the "elite" clans, about pension reform.
    In this case, the VVP performs the CLAN CORPORATE DISCIPLINE, for the king is played by the entourage.
    1. 0
      7 January 2022 16: 11
      https://topcor.ru/23216-pochemu-elcin-ostanovil-svoj-vybor-na-putine.html
      https://topcor.ru/23276-putin-uzhe-prinjal-reshenie-idti-na-novyj-srok-no-poka-utaivaet-ego.html
      Read these 2 texts, it seems to me that you overestimate the casting of EBN
      1. 0
        8 January 2022 07: 20
        Vladimir!
        Casting is not on the part of EBN.
        The clan that put forward the GDP is close to the Bolsheviks (who care and do their best for the majority of workers), who went underground with the beginning of a quiet coup d'etat in the USSR from 26.06.1993/04.10.1993/XNUMX (shooting from Beria's armored personnel carrier at a dinner in the house) to XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX (shooting from tanks remnants of Soviet power in the White House).
        It can be seen how the corrupt forces of the “elites” are gradually “squeezing out”, but these same “elites” in power serve as a disguise for the Western “elites” who hope that from today to tomorrow Russia will collapse, either from Basayev or from Navalny.
        And Russia can be wiped off the face of the Earth, which the West has been wanting for millennia.
        VVP said: "Why do we need such a world in which there will be no Russia."
      2. 0
        8 January 2022 07: 35
        Vladimir!
        I looked at the articles, nothing new for me - information (camouflage) dust, roughly according to the saying: "the war in the Crimea, everything is in smoke, nothing is visible."
        The same dust is now about the covid, write all who are into what is much, in the verbosity they drown everything that is possible, knock the majority of common thoughts.
        The trick is not new, the Bible is written according to the same recipes:
        - verbosity drowned the concept of the conquest of countries and the enslavement of peoples;
        - was written with only consonants, which were supplemented with different vocalizations, which led to different meanings of the texts.
        These techniques are alive and now, more alive than all living things, many other things have been invented for them over the millennia.
        If you, Vladimir, have something else significant, then I will try to figure it out, although it is inconvenient to communicate on such platforms.
        If you wish (suddenly) to talk in a different mode, then my address is: [email protected] skype: kremlevvv (I don't watch skype every day, only after warning by mail about the day and time).
        Good Luck!
        1. 0
          8 January 2022 12: 09
          I'll write to you in a personal message, it's faster, it's the same mail, only internal
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        2. 0
          8 January 2022 12: 21
          https://topcor.ru/23217-faktor-putina-osobennosti-psihoportreta-prezidenta-rossii.html
  13. ksa
    0
    7 January 2022 17: 23
    Summary: Putin is cunning, wise. Americans -. Putin has one healthy piece in his pants, but I won't show it to you (until you read my works).
    And the name is so good. Probably a pseudonym. Judging by the article.
  14. +1
    7 January 2022 18: 40
    I hope I figured out the riddle. If we can turn off the GPS system (and we can), then not a single American missile will fly anywhere. Moreover, there will be huge problems for civilian transport. The economy will be paralyzed. Our global positioning system will continue to operate. There won't be many losses on our side. And our safety will definitely be ensured.
    1. -3
      7 January 2022 23: 30
      Do not set off.
      GPS does not work under water anyway. Trident II starts from under the water, the guidance system is inertial, in flight it performs astro-correction (if only to extinguish the stars), it can use GPS. KVO without GPS 120 meters, with GPS 90 meters.
      Minutemen don't use GPS at all. The start coordinates are known, the target coordinates are known. KVO 210 meters. The guidance system is inertial. Surely uses astro correction in flight.
      For Tomahawk Block-III also inertial guidance + TERCOM correction system + GPS correction system. As far as I understand, the lack of a GPS signal can make it difficult to use this rocket over the sea and desert.
      In general, it is difficult to imagine that our president in his right mind would undertake such an adventure.
      1. +1
        8 January 2022 00: 25
        These missiles are not afraid of Putin, we will all catch them, like they are our ICBMs, but how will Biden catch our GRs - the question is? Biden has no answer to it, and therefore his man goes to Geneva
        1. -3
          8 January 2022 11: 23
          Putin is probably not afraid, he's in the bunker. And what will you catch? Will there be Putin's net for Rogozin's trampoline? And what are they? Aijasami or whatever? So they are clearly not enough to intercept not only everything, but at least a significant part. And not the fact that it is possible at all. And what kind of wunderwaffe GR is it?
          Even if we assume that the Russian Federation has some kind of wunderwaffe in significant quantities (which is very doubtful), it seems to me very naive to assume that the United States will take it and raise its legs to the top. What do you mean by the sacramental "we are them"?
          1. +2
            8 January 2022 12: 04
            I see a high level of knowledge in the field of missile defense, it is difficult to talk with a person who believes that he is better informed than the beginning. General Staff of the RF Armed Forces
            1. -3
              8 January 2022 13: 21
              Yes, what a tall, elementary one.

              Quote: Volkonsky
              it is difficult to talk with a person who believes that he is better informed than the beginning. General Staff of the RF Armed Forces

              Ahh .. Comrade Army General Gerasimov Valery Vasilyevich, I'm sorry I didn't recognize you in make-up. What an honor to have visited our humble forum! What are the fates in Kharkov?

              Everything's clear with you. Merge.
              1. +1
                8 January 2022 14: 46
                Oleg, stop clowning. You yourself, since such a bazaar has gone, how did you end up in Kharkov? laughing

                There used to be an empath like this on the site, Arkharov, but disappeared. I have to ask you, because you also feel everything. Please tell me, do you feel the presence of the Soviet Union in all world events? smile
                1. 0
                  8 January 2022 15: 26
                  no, he is from Kostroma, truly Russian, only he does not like Putin, but he is ready to tear everyone up for the Motherland, like a tuzik a rag
              2. +1
                8 January 2022 15: 27
                go learn materiel, google to help
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                  13 January 2022 01: 47
                  Vladimir, we are waiting for your fourth article! What are you pulling?
                  1. +1
                    13 January 2022 03: 20
                    events in Kazakhstan forced me to postpone it, it is already 65% ​​written, but now another text on Kazakhstan will be released, and then I will add the 4th part, at the same time I will include a review of the RF-USA-NATO-OSCE negotiations, everyone is waiting for continuation , especially pin * dos, do not know how a refusal can result in them, and no one knows, but stealing is a false target, pin * dosovskaya thermal missile, do not get fooled by it, now, according to their plans, the Russian Federation will attack in March, when the ukrovs run out firewood for heating and, in order to distract the people from the cold, the stole will throw him into the war
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  16. 0
    8 January 2022 04: 28
    Quote: Volkonsky
    How would it be a violation of logic, if the United States does not have time now, then how do they then us? And then they will have it?

    noticed that most of all people who do not know the Russian language like to teach logic - the word "logicI" is written in this case through "AND". "What a pity that all people who know how to run the state already work as hairdressers or taxi drivers" (Francois Mitterrand)
    We figured out the grammar, now to the logic, if we give the States time, then they are us. If we don’t give it, then we will. Then time may not appear, it cannot appear at all, it flows in spite of everything, then something will appear with which they can blackmail us. Until then, Putin is blackmailing them. And while this process is going on, the war in Ukraine is being postponed. But if he fails, then both sides will be able to activate it. "Nobody wanted war, but war was inevitable" (c). Why is inevitable, you will understand from the 3rd text

    My friend, your demagoguery just has nothing to do with logic, but the author has it. Your chatter is more suitable for swindlers throwing suckers, but not for something sane and serious. No, of course, I understand that you are offended for your owner who was so put in the shit with his face, well, you need to look at who you are selling to and who is who in reality, and who only has gnarled show-off to get you hooked
    1. 0
      14 January 2022 00: 53
      this is the author ._.
  17. 0
    12 January 2022 22: 50
    Dear, when to expect the final part of your article?
  18. 0
    14 January 2022 00: 51
    where is the link to the continuation