Paul Roberts: Washington only needs a little cleverness to stop Russia

January 5 2022 25

During an expanded meeting of the collegium of the military department on December 21, Vladimir Putin noted that "Russia has nowhere to retreat," and the deployment of US missile defense elements near the borders of the Russian Federation causes extreme concern. Thus, writes American analyst Paul Roberts, Russia has done everything possible to avoid war, and now the ball is on the side of the West.

The analyst assumes two scenarios for the development of the situation. According to the first, Washington admits Ukraine's NATO membership in an indefinite future, but this will never happen. The supply of Western weapons to Ukraine will stop, and Russian military maneuvers along the western borders will gradually fade away. Ukraine will be instructed to improve relations with Russia. Apparently, Putin would have allowed Washington to save face in this way.

Another scenario is that the United States does not take Russia's security concerns seriously. The likely consequence of this would be a lightning-fast capture of Ukraine by Russian troops. NATO is not capable of intervening in the situation - the United States will not use nuclear weapons because of Ukraine, which in any case is rightfully part of the Russian Federation.

If Putin takes over Ukraine, the West will finally demonize the Kremlin, which is consistent with Washington's goals. The "Russian threat" increases the US influence on Europe and gives rise to the allocation of funds to the American military-industrial complex.

There is nothing left of the West, shattered by open borders and anti-white policies... The white ethnic groups that formed the peoples of the West were demonized by their own governments. Nothing left but the towers of Babel

- writes Roberts.

Meanwhile, seeing in this case the inability of the West to defend Ukraine, Romania and Poland will become less gravitated towards NATO structures. European countries will quietly begin to improve their relations with Russia. The Russians, on the other hand, will be diplomatic and will not proclaim their victory over the United States in these matters. Americans will shift from a policy of hegemony to cooperation.

All that is needed for this from Washington, Paul Roberts believes, is a little intelligence and discretion. But does America today have these qualities? The question is rhetorical.

All it takes is a little cleverness and discretion from Washington. But is it there? The world should hope that the Kremlin understands that it is dealing with madmen

- the expert considers.

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Oleg Rambover

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5 January 2022 16: 55

because of Ukraine, which in any case is rightfully a part of the Russian Federation.

I wonder by what such right?
1. Avarron
  
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  5 January 2022 17: 22
  
  By right of origin of Russia from Kievan Rus, no?
  1. Oleg Rambover
    
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    5 January 2022 20: 01
    
    Hmm ... Why then Ukraine to Russia and not vice versa? Kiev is in Ukraine.
    If the citizens of Ukraine want to be a part of Russia, then let me be, if not, then you won't be forcibly sweet. It seems to me that there can only be such a right.
    And then you can go far. Over there, the glade became the core of Kievan Rus and the glade became the core of Poland. Now what, Poland is "our"? And many consider the Russian kingdom a fragment of the Mongol empire or the Golden Horde, and now what?
    1. tagil
      
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      5 January 2022 20: 05
      
      And who said that Ukraine does not want to be a part of Russia? Two Jews and Bandera bastard Yarosh?
      1. Oleg Rambover
        
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        5 January 2022 20: 10
        
        In Donbass, not two Jews and Yarosh fought. Two Jews and Yarosh will not be able to resist the consolidated will of the people. That means they want badly.
        
        tagil
        
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        5 January 2022 20: 13
        
        Not all of Ukraine was at war in Donbass, but a small part of the very Bandera bastard, which must be disposed of.
        
        Oleg Rambover
        
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        5 January 2022 20: 42
        
        If I were Ukrainians, I would not really strive for a country where they want to dispose of someone. What kind of Nazi ideas do you have? Volunteer battalions, I think, are less than 10% of the number of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbas. The rest of the units are recruited from all regions of Ukraine. They even speak Russian among themselves. Yarosh's support is maximized by 2% of the population.
        If the will of the majority of citizens unites with the Russian Federation, then no Bandera supporters will be able to prevent this.
        
        tagil
        
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        5 January 2022 23: 55
        
        And who asks you what you want? In 2014, several thousand cattle from the right sector decided for all of your country that you need to go to Europe, and Nuland with cookies. Who will let you tell the truth what you want there in your Ukraine? Your teeth will be hammered down your throat such as Yarosh just for one thought that Bandera is not your dick, let alone what you want there. And tell me why your "valiant warrior" in Donbass is staffed by 40-45% devoted to the Nordic representatives of the ukroverrmacht? Where did all the rest of the strongest army of the Continent go, probably from the call, all the rest went to Poland and Russia? And to be honest, you are not needed on our land. Even Kiev is not built by you. Have you ever built anything of your own in your entire history? No, you have appropriated everything that belongs to someone else, from embroidered shirts to the cattle Bandera, who appeared in Austria-Hungary.
        
        Oleg Rambover
        
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        7 January 2022 11: 52
        
        Ltd. .. The substance has flooded.
        
        Quote: Tagil
        And who asks you what you want? In 2014, several thousand cattle from the right sector decided for all of your country that you need to go to Europe, and Nuland with cookies. Who will let you tell the truth what you want there in your Ukraine? Your teeth will be hammered down your throat such as Yarosh just for one thought that Bandera is not your dick, let alone what you want there.
        
        You should watch less Russian television.
        Of course, you can consider the people of Ukraine (and other countries) as foolish sheep (and yourself for one thing as a representative of the people), guided by shepherds. It's your right. I do not think so. Nations are made up of people capable of thinking and it is almost impossible to convince these people that black is white.
        
        Quote: Tagil
        And tell me why your "valiant warrior" in Donbass is staffed by 40-45% devoted to the Nordic representatives of the ukroverrmacht? Where did all the rest of the strongest army of the Continent go, probably from the call, all the rest went to Poland and Russia?
        
        I don’t know how it’s in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but in St. Petersburg I rent an apartment and from 15 to 18 years old a guy from Lugansk rented it. He said that he left the LPR for fear of being drafted into the army of militias. How many residents of the LDNR have escaped from the delights of the Russian world? And most of it goes to Ukraine.
        
        Quote: Tagil
        And to be honest, you are not needed on our land.
        
        Again, Nazism has flooded out of you.
        
        Quote: Tagil
        Even Kiev is not built by you.
        
        Come on, bomb who was built.
        
        Quote: Tagil
        Have you ever built anything of your own in your entire history?
        
        Personally, I have a lot of things, I work in construction.
        In 18, I was on a business trip in Kiev, so there are no fewer shopping malls there than in St. Petersburg. Khreshchatyk was built (twice) in Soviet Ukraine.
        
        Quote: Tagil
        No, you have appropriated everything that belongs to someone else, from embroidered shirts to the cattle Bandera, who appeared in Austria-Hungary.
        
        From people like you, Ukraine will never join Russia. Why are you better than any Yaroshes?
        
        isofat
        
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        7 January 2022 13: 12
        
        Oleg, for some reason you drew a picture where your opponent is bad and you are good. After that, you try to pass off as the truth the words of some rogue who settled in your house. Real refugees from Lugansk have no money to pay for rented housing in St. Petersburg or Moscow.
        
        About who built Kiev. A scientist, a historian from Israel, claims that it is possible that they, the Jews, built Kiev.
        
        PS I don't even want to think about what could happen because of people like you.
        
        tagil
        
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        8 January 2022 18: 43
        
        I have no desire to answer and chew on everything said. But I don’t understand why I should ask the wishlist of these “brothers” after they don’t ask the residents of the Kuban, Krasnodar Territory, Belgorod and generally everything to the Far East (maybe I forgot something else from the “Ukrainian” lands to which these opened their mouths). It is enough for me that the annexation of this territory is necessary to ensure the national security of my country. And on this basis, I do not care about their desire, they do not want, the rainbow flag in between the rolls and in Europe, which they consider theirs. The land on the crust they live in Europe has never belonged (except geographically). Hopefully never and never will.
        
        Oleg Rambover
        
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        10 January 2022 21: 44
        
        Quote: Tagil
        But I don’t understand why I should ask the Wishlist of these “brothers” after the fact that they don’t ask residents of the Kuban, Krasnodar Territory, Belgorod and in general everything to the Far East (maybe I forgot something from the “Ukrainian” lands) want to join them to which these opened their mouths)
        
        Do all Ukrainians really want this? Here Zhirinovsky dreams of washing his boots in the Indian Ocean. Does this mean that all citizens of the Russian Federation dream of doing this? I personally don't? And you? In every country there are freaks carrying such a blizzard. This does not mean that this is the goal of public policy. Why are you like them?
        
        Quote: Tagil
        It is enough for me that the annexation of this territory is necessary to ensure the national security of my country. And based on this, I don’t care about their desire, they don’t want a rainbow flag between rolls and to Europe, which they consider their own.
        
        Then you must understand and forgive Aloisych. He just wanted to ensure the national security of his country. And he was indifferent to the desires of Soviet citizens.
        
        Quote: Tagil
        The land on the bark they live in Europe has never belonged (except geographically). I hope to never belong and never will.
        
        I don’t know what you wanted to say there, but Russia is Europe in every sense.
        
        isofat
        
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        11 January 2022 01: 21
        
        Quote: Oleg Rambover
        I don’t know what you wanted to say there, but Russia is Europe in every sense.
        
        I have to intervene because not everyone knows your limitations. Russia is not Europe. You have an amazing talent for talking nonsense.
        
        In what sense, offended by God? Decipher. This meaningless the phrase immediately follows your admission that you do not understand the interlocutor. at the end of your comment.
        
        tagil
        
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        11 January 2022 13: 53
        
        Thank you for your support, but in my opinion it is useless. It is impossible to convince some opponents of their "delusions", because for some it is work on such sites. One such representative, having learned that I was a military man (it’s probably a big secret for him that most of the men in our country did military service), at my words that the defense of my country is my direct duty, accused me that I want to arrange “shooting games” for innocent Americans and NATO, who will simply come to liberate and protect US. So it's all useless.
        
        tagil
        
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        11 January 2022 13: 18
        
        Do all Ukrainians really want this? Here Zhirinovsky dreams of washing his boots in the Indian Ocean. Does this mean that all citizens of the Russian Federation dream of doing this? I personally don't? And you? In every country there are freaks carrying such a blizzard. This does not mean that this is the goal of public policy. Why are you like them?
        
        These Ukrainian freaks are representatives of the ruling class of Ukraine and hold public office. Thus, they project the wishes of the whole society (something I have not heard indignation from the citizens of this country about these statements). If these stupid people do not understand that they are public people, that's their problem. By the way, have you ever heard such mass statements from Russian authorities (one Zhirinovsky, this is just one Zhirinovsky.
        
        Then you must understand and forgive Aloisych. He just wanted to ensure the national security of his country. And he was indifferent to the desires of Soviet citizens.
        
        Can I understand and forgive all American presidents who claim that Russia is a constant threat to the whole world and therefore it must be weakened, divided into parts and eventually destroyed (my country, me, my family)? And the presence of American and NATO troops in Europe, the Baltic States, Ukraine, Georgia, and indeed everywhere else, is to ensure the national security of the United States (Oh, I forgot that this is completely different and not Aloisych's methods at all). And I see no reason why Russia does not have the right to ensure its security like all these "cream of the world" (it has already announced that it will ensure its security in the same way as the United States). Before accusing me of Nazism and fascism, think what you are saying (maybe it reminds of the fascist flags of Ukrainian warriors near Donetsk, or maybe torchlight processions and who Bandera is, or maybe chevrons with a "slave man"?).
        
        I don’t know what you wanted to say there, but Russia is Europe in every sense.
        
        That's for sure, that's why once in a hundred years they all over Europe climb into Russia to make sure that Russia is our European brothers for sure !!!
        
        Oleg Rambover
        
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        12 January 2022 17: 18
        
        Quote: Tagil
        These Ukrainian freaks are representatives of the ruling class of Ukraine and hold public office. Thus, they project the wishes of the whole society (something I have not heard indignation from the citizens of this country about these statements). If these stupid people do not understand that they are public people, that's their problem.
        
        Of course, I don’t follow Ukrainian politicians like you do, so I can’t say with certainty. But I have never heard such statements by Ukrainian politicians. Only some Ukrainian publicist was replicated by all Russian media.
        
        Quote: Tagil
        By the way, have you ever heard such mass statements from Russian authorities (one Zhirinovsky, this is just one Zhirinovsky.
        
        Of course I heard. I'm sure you do too. For example, about the Crimea in 14, though then they not only talked, but also did it. Or now about western Kazakhstan.
        
        Quote: Tagil
        Can I understand and forgive all American presidents who claim that Russia is a constant threat to the whole world and therefore it must be weakened, divided into parts and eventually destroyed (my country, me, my family)?
        
        Probably, they just want to ensure the national security of their country, just like you. (sarcasm if anyone doesn't get it). And can I have specific quotes about the division and destruction of our country, and even more so of you and your family? Albright and Thatcher do not offer, their statement is fake, they never said anything like that. The latter in a similar vein was expressed by the same Aloisych.
        
        Quote: Tagil
        And the presence of American and NATO troops in Europe, the Baltic States, Ukraine, Georgia, and indeed everywhere else, is to ensure the national security of the United States (Oh, I forgot that this is completely different and not Aloisych's methods at all).
        
        Well, if they didn’t invade there, it’s definitely not Aloisych’s methods. Can provide national security to Europe, the Baltic States, Ukraine, Georgia. Moreover, in reality they are only in Germany and Italy. And probably in Poland.
        
        Quote: Tagil
        And I see no reason why Russia does not have the right to ensure its security like all these "cream of the world" (it has already announced that it will ensure its security in the same way as the United States).
        
        That is why for the jingoistic patriots of the United States in everything an example? The USA is not the most correct country in the world. Well, Europe, at least take China as an example.
        
        Quote: Tagil
        Before accusing me of Nazism and fascism, think what you are saying (maybe it reminds of the fascist flags of Ukrainian warriors near Donetsk, or maybe torchlight processions and who Bandera is, or maybe chevrons with a "slave man"?).
        
        Look at the Russian marches, RNE, Schultz-88, the Eurasian Youth Union. You know that in the other eye you see a mote, but in your own you do not notice the log.
        
        Quote: Tagil
        And to be honest, you are not needed on our land.
        
        This is what you said, and this is the statement of a Nazi. Forced resettlement in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation is treated as genocide.
        
        Quote: Tagil
        That's for sure, that's why once in a hundred years they all over Europe climb into Russia to make sure that Russia is our European brothers for sure !!!
        
        What are these wars to you. There, Germany and France fought, so much blood was shed each other, No Napoleon's invasion of Russia was even close. So what?
        You look around, what do you see that is not European? Caucasian people walk around you. Russian literature is the heir to the European tradition and an integral part of European literature. The same with music from classical to modern. The same with theater, cinema, visual arts. Is there anything traditional in the architecture of Russian cities? Disappearing little. Starting with the Moscow Kremlin built by the Italians. You walk around in clothes made in the European style. What is not European you see around?
2. Alexander
  
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  5 January 2022 22: 28
  
  We are one people (well, there are geeks everywhere, we do not take them into account ...), and one people has the right and must live in one state ...
  Yes, only there should not be any republics and autonomies - only regions (provinces, no matter what you call them): Ryazan, Kiev, etc. ... then there will be order and less freedom for any Banderas ...
  1. Oleg Rambover
    
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    5 January 2022 22: 47
    
    I'm not against it, Anschluss, so Anschluss. But this must be by mutual agreement. If those whom you are not going to take into account, who are against, the majority, then such people should not live in the same state with us. There is not a single party in Ukraine that advocates unification with Russia.
3. isofat
  
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  5 January 2022 23: 20
  
  Quote: Oleg Rambover
  I wonder by what such right?
  
  Oleg Rambover, in the forty-eighth of the last century there was a precedent. There are those who want to regain their historical homeland. Their desire was granted.
  
  Local Aborigines still disagreed with this, but their rights have not yet been discussed.
Alexey Davydov

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5 January 2022 18: 02

The world should hope that the Kremlin understands that it is dealing with madmen

This is written by an analyst about his US government.
Our "observations" from Russia confirm this.
I remember how in 2014 my wife and I suddenly discovered to both of us at once that America in its aggression towards Russia is uncontrollable, behaving like a machine started by someone.
Her madness is a kind of blackmail tool - "You will not be able to convince and intimidate us, even if you threaten our lives." In the context of a mutual nuclear threat, such "madness" can be a tool for the United States to resolve the issue.
Is the American urging us to yield? Not?
Then:
Being cunning and flexible - like a psychiatrist with a patient?
Use deception instead of our frontal honesty?
You can think of more options.
Perhaps this is an important clue.
However, in order to behave like this with America, you need to understand the "patient" and manage his reactions.
Alexey Davydov

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5 January 2022 21: 52

Add more:
In light of this view, I think that the threat to the Americans with nuclear weapons can be really, useless and unnecessarily dangerous.
Also, as can be ineffective, and any other frontal methods of threats and pressure. America, in this regard, seems to have changed a lot since the Cuban Missile Crisis.
This means that in dealing with them, we need to give up fair play with open cards. You must behave with them as with the enemy on the battlefield.
There is also a very important conclusion - the hope, about anything, to come to an agreement with them, is completely absurd. That is, they will formally agree, but they will not take these agreements into account.
Alexey Davydov

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6 January 2022 08: 39

I will correct my inaccurate wording:

In light of this view, I think that the threat to the Americans with nuclear weapons can be really, useless and unnecessarily dangerous.
Also, as can be ineffective, and any other frontal methods of threats and pressure.

I should have written like this:
In light of this view, I think that counting on a reasonable American response to the threat of nuclear weapons can be really, useless and unnecessarily dangerous.

We are dealing with an inadequate state - a nuclear superpower that has set itself the goal of destroying us. A case of the "rabies" disease of an entire country and nation. It has already happened with Germany.
Any agreements are useless here. Handcuffs, deprivation of arms, sedative injections are helpful.
Making the world around them extremely dangerous with our military-technical threats can also help.
With a high degree of probability, however, it may turn out that the only means is to destroy them, even at the cost of your own death.
A world without us - we don't need it. Even if he shortsightedly hopes for our altruism
Crunch

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6 January 2022 13: 37

Quote: Alexander Alekseevich
We are one people (well, there are geeks everywhere, we do not take them into account ...), and one people has the right and must live in one state ...
Yes, only there should not be any republics and autonomies - only regions (provinces, no matter what you call them): Ryazan, Kiev, etc. ... then there will be order and less freedom for any Banderas ...

That's right, no autonomy and no secondary, tertiary and decimal presidents. There is only one president. In the meantime, all together, let us curse those who laid down the USSR on a national basis, with borders, and with the possibility of leaving the common Power.
Crunch

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6 January 2022 13: 45
Quote: Oleg Rambover
If I were Ukrainians, I would not really strive for a country where they want to dispose of someone. What kind of Nazi ideas do you have? Volunteer battalions, I think, are less than 10% of the number of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbas. The rest of the units are recruited from all regions of Ukraine. They even speak Russian among themselves. Yarosh's support is maximized by 2% of the population.
If the will of the majority of citizens unites with the Russian Federation, then no Bandera supporters will be able to prevent this.

Find a couple of differences

If you find it, continue talking about nationalism. But, no longer about Russian. So you are talking about LDNR, which will NEVER go for disposal? We don't fucking need Ukraine as a part of Russia. Let them die themselves. We can only help.
Crunch

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6 January 2022 13: 54

Quote: Oleg Rambover
Hmm ... Why then Ukraine to Russia and not vice versa? Kiev is in Ukraine.
If the citizens of Ukraine want to be a part of Russia, then let me be, if not, then you won't be forcibly sweet. It seems to me that there can only be such a right.
And then you can go far. Over there, the glade became the core of Kievan Rus and the glade became the core of Poland. Now what, Poland is "our"? And many consider the Russian kingdom a fragment of the Mongol empire or the Golden Horde, and now what?

Here, let them come and take what belongs to them - the Golden Horde. THEY ARE? We're. And, if it is so badly needed, we will come and take it. They themselves calculated there, playing on the computer, how long they could hold out. Only, we are unlikely to make Stalin's mistake - to take the shit.