Russia goes all-in: the Kremlin demands a revision of the results of the Cold War


We live in an amazing time, gentlemen, don't you think? History is literally being written before our eyes. However, what happened at the end of 2021 is not something that our sworn "friends and partners", but even we could not imagine even in our most daring and rosy dreams. With its latest unprecedented statements, Moscow has put Washington in a virtually ugly, almost hopeless situation. And it’s not even surprising that, but the fact that Washington resignedly demolishes all this and only asks permission to consult with its NATO colleagues (and even then, not with everyone, but only with the elect, to which the unelected have already raised a universal noise and hi).


The Russians are known to be slow to harness, but to go fast! But in the past year, their bird-three rushed at a speed of 10-15 Machs (later you will understand that I did not use this term by accident). The "partners" fell into a stupor, unable to digest what was happening. It all started on November 18, with Putin's speech at the expanded collegium of the Russian Foreign Ministry, where the Russian president assigned Sergei Lavrov’s department the task of intensifying the Foreign Ministry’s efforts to convey Moscow’s line to its sworn “partners”. It was there that we first heard from Putin words about preventing NATO expansion to the east and about the West providing long-term legal guarantees of the security of the Russian Federation in connection with this unfortunate circumstance (and all this against the background of the groans of the Western press about the pulling together of Russian troops to the borders of Ukraine, which in fact turned out to be borders of Belarus). And already on December 7 (which is noteworthy - on the day of the 80th anniversary of the entry of the United States into World War II, which began for them with the tragedy in Pearl Harbor), on the initiative of the American side, a virtual RF-US summit is taking place, which has become a logical continuation of the previous Geneva summit six months ago. Nobody knows what the leaders of the two leading powers agreed on. From the word "absolutely"! The most banal assumption is that we agreed to negotiate. But three days later, on December 10, the Russian Foreign Ministry is rolling out a list of Russian demands on the United States and its NATO allies, publishing their theses on its website, after which events began to develop with truly kaleidoscopic speed.

Literally five days after that, on December 15, Washington's special envoy, Assistant Secretary of State for Europe and Eurasia, Karen Donfried, arrives in Moscow in transit through Kiev. The main purpose of her visit is to pick up Moscow's written proposals for overcoming the crisis that has arisen. For this, in the first half of the day, she meets with Lavrov's deputy, Sergei Ryabkov, and in the second, she conducts two-hour negotiations with the deputy head of the Presidential Administration Dmitry Kozak, who is in charge of the Ukrainian direction in the Kremlin. After that, Washington's special envoy leaves for Brussels without any comment. Pay attention to its route - Kiev-Moscow-Brussels. In Kiev, she held talks with Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba, where she once again reaffirmed the US's commitment to the principle of "no decisions on Ukraine without Ukraine." How Washington follows this principle, we saw the very next day in Moscow. But the most surprising thing awaited us further - after 10 days, according to the instructions received from Washington, Zelensky began to change his shoes literally in the air.

But I will not get ahead of myself, because Washington also had reason to be surprised when, less than two days after Karen Donfried left Moscow, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov convenes a special briefing for Russian and foreign journalists, where he makes the documents handed over to her public. which he distributes, printed in Russian and English, draft agreements with the United States and NATO on overcoming the crisis that has arisen between the parties to the journalists invited to the briefing. Washington did not expect such a turn of events. At least until now, this has not been the case in undercover diplomacy. "Fi, how ugly!" - as soon as they were about to tighten them, Sergei Lavrov cooled them down with the words: “Get used to it, gentlemen, the rules are changing! You won't be able to chat more and roll up your oral promises. " Russia has brought the negotiations into the public sphere, wanting to avoid non-compliance with the agreements reached and a possible distortion of facts.


Their European comrades-in-arms already understood that the rules were changing when the Russian Foreign Ministry published a private correspondence between Sergei Lavrov and his German and French colleagues Heiko Maas and Jean-Yves Le Drian. This "impudent" behavior of Moscow was caused by the distortion of the European negotiators of Russia's position in the Normandy format and its role in the settlement of the internal Ukrainian conflict. In their correspondence, they agreed with Moscow, but publicly declared the exact opposite. More with a similar RF is not going to put up! If this came as a complete surprise to our American and European partners, then it is exclusively their personal difficulties. It was not in vain that I began my review of past events with Putin's speech at the expanded collegium of the Russian Foreign Ministry, where he called on diplomats to intensify their efforts to resolve the existing crisis between the Russian Federation and the West. It is better not to aggravate and not lead Putin to say something like that at the expanded collegium of the RF Ministry of Defense (but we will get to it, Putin also spoke at it, on December 21).

"And now Humpback!" (With). "I have no other menu for you!" (S.A. Ryabkov)


The fact that the Kremlin went for broke became clear immediately after the publication of Moscow's demands on the Foreign Ministry's website. But the Kremlin did not stop there. By publicizing his claims, he thereby doubled the stakes. Then Washington found itself in a situation that is described in chess as zugzwang. Moscow's demands looked like an ultimatum both in form and in content. Agreeing with them was tantamount to admitting its own defeat, but the White House could not refuse to consider them. For some reason, I will tell you separately, take my word for it, the arguments of the Kremlin were reinforced concrete. Biden was informed of their presence by his intelligence officers even before his first meeting with Putin in Geneva. Why they were so convincing, it will become clear later, now I will just remind you that both summits (both the Geneva and the virtual) were initiated by the American side (why, think for yourself ?!).

But the Kremlin did not stop there either. During the briefing for Russian and foreign journalists, Ryabkov, who convened it, first triples and then quadruples the already high stakes, telling the audience that the documents presented by Moscow should not be viewed as a menu from which individual items can be selected - this is a comprehensive proposal that should be taken (or not taken) solely as a package. While foreign journalists were digesting this stunning news, he finished them off with another, announcing the final date for considering Moscow's proposals. The Kremlin gives 30 days for everything, after which the submitted documents become invalid (the deadline will happen exactly on January 14, 2022). Washington has already reacted to it by scheduling another meeting for January 10, which is to be held offline in Geneva at the level of specially selected negotiators with broad powers. The fact that the Russian Foreign Ministry sent an ultimatum to our "sworn friends and partners" makes this event especially piquant, the most intelligent of Sergei Viktorovich's deputies, the most intelligent Sergei Alekseevich Ryabkov. And he successfully coped with the mission entrusted to him, once again proving the high level of domestic diplomacy.


Another deputy of Lavrov, Alexander Grushko, has already hammered a nail into the coffin of our "partners", who in an interview with Vladimir Solovyov said that in case of rejection of our proposals, Russia reserves the right to take military and military-technical measures. And then, overseas, someone really felt bad.

Back to the USSR


It's time to say what kind of proposals there were, to which the West could not go without losing face. In a nutshell, the Kremlin, in an ultimatum, offered the States to zero the results of the Cold War, to get out of Europe from the territories adjacent to Russia with their nuclear weapons of any range and not to threaten us in the future. Those. in fact, the Kremlin offered the States to return back to the USSR, not literally, but in fact, to restore the status quo as of May 27, 1997. Agree that such statements are arrogance! Not even arrogance, but outrageous arrogance! And the first thing that comes to mind is to send the Kremlin to hell with its proposals. Why didn't the States do this? Moreover, they accepted Moscow's proposals for consideration. Apparently, there were iron arguments on the side of the Kremlin. And Biden knew about them! But about this, as I promised, in the next text. Believe me, all your assumptions are past the box office, there is no talk about our missiles in Cuba, Venezuela and Nicaragua, and not even about the deployment of our Strategic Missile Forces on the territory of the Republic of Belarus and the Kaliningrad region, and even less about a possible military alliance with China. Why do we need China? Where are we and where are the Chinese? We ourselves with a mustache! It's still tougher there. You know Putin - he never bluffs, he always plays face-to-face, but his every subsequent proposal is always worse than the previous one. So Biden is trying to agree with the first, knowing from Obama's experience that the second proposal will be much worse. What cannot be taken away from Putin is that he never acts rashly. All his actions are planned in advance, and he always performs them with a cold head, choosing for this the most suitable moment for himself and the most inappropriate for his opponent. So this time he ruined Biden's Christmas. Moreover, he deliberately hit the backhand where he did not expect at all, choosing for this also the most daring form.

Moscow's demands are set out in two documents, separately for the States and separately for the NATO bloc. Short, but tasteful. A total of 8 articles of claims against the United States and 9 articles against NATO. But each of them causes complete amazement - are you all this serious? Yes seriously! We are not joking, and we do not intend to wait any longer! Either you accept our demands, or you don’t exact. To begin with, Russia offers the United States and NATO to get out of our borders. Moreover, we are not even talking about the borders of Ukraine and Georgia, as potential NATO members, Russia puts an end to this, as well as the prospects of other republics of the former Union to get into the Alliance, this topic is closed once and for all, from nowhere and forever is the zone of vital interests of the Russian Federation, forget even the road here (Ryabkov went even further in his interview to Interfax, proposing to withdraw the decisions of the 2008 NATO summit in Bucharest on the possible admission of Ukraine and Georgia to it). But even this did not seem enough for Russia, and it demanded that the United States, remembering that two years ago, through Trump's efforts, withdrew from the INF Treaty, remove its nuclear weapons of any range and infrastructure from Europe to its national territory and continue to refrain from deploying it near our borders. Here we are talking not only about missile defense systems in Romania and Poland, the launchers of which can be used for cruise Tomahawks, but also about all unconventional short and medium-range ground-based missiles that Washington dreams of returning to Europe, as well as nuclear bombs. , which are already stored there at American military bases in Germany and Turkey. This provision applies to strategic bombers and surface ships of all classes carrying nuclear weapons. Note that there are no submarines with nuclear weapons on board. What is it for? And besides, for the last 70 years, whether we like it or not, nuclear weapons have been the guarantor of world peace. With our proposals, we simply do not allow the United States to break the current balance of power.

Art. 4. The United States of America will not establish military bases on the territory of states that were previously part of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and are not members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, use their infrastructure for any military activity, or develop bilateral military cooperation with them.

Art. 5. The parties refrain from flying heavy bombers equipped for nuclear or non-nuclear weapons, and finding surface warships of all classes, including within alliances, coalitions and organizations, in areas, respectively, outside the national airspace and outside national territorial waters. from where they can hit targets on the territory of the other Party.

This article also includes the coordination of the maximum permissible rendezvous distances of warships and aircraft in the open sea and in the airspace above it.

Art. 6. The Parties undertake not to deploy ground-based intermediate and shorter-range missiles outside their national territory, as well as in those areas of their national territory from which such weapons are capable of hitting targets on the national territory of the other Party.

This point immediately puts an end to all American RMSD, why should they, if they cannot reach the Russian Federation from their territory, there the maximum range of such a missile is 5,5 thousand km, even from Alaska they can only reach our Chukotka and a piece Kamchatka, which reduces the level of threats to zero and makes RMSD unnecessary.

Art. 7. The Parties exclude the deployment of nuclear weapons outside national territory and return such weapons already deployed outside the national territory at the time this Treaty enters into force to the national territory. The parties will eliminate all existing infrastructure for the deployment of nuclear weapons outside national territory. The Parties shall not train military personnel and civilians from non-nuclear-weapon countries to use such weapons.

These are the provisions of the Treaty with the United States. As you can see, everything is extremely short and clear (my explanations were longer). The last point presupposes the prevention of the transfer of nuclear weapons to other parties, in particular, the involvement of the air force of Germany or some other NATO country (except France and Britain) for air strikes on the territory of the Russian Federation using American nuclear bombs. Article 4 especially emphasizes the inadmissibility of establishing military bases on the territory of non-NATO countries on a bilateral basis, i.e. what is happening now in Ukraine and Georgia (why would the States need NATO if they can create their bases there anyway on the basis of bilateral agreements).

In the Treaty with NATO, Russia has gone even further.

Art. 3. Participants confirm that they do not view each other as opponents. The participants maintain a dialogue and interact to improve the mechanisms for preventing incidents on the high seas and in the airspace above it (primarily in the Baltic and the Black Sea region).

Art. 4. The Russian Federation and all the Participants that were, as of May 27, 1997, member states of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, accordingly, do not deploy their armed forces and weapons on the territory of all other European states in addition to the forces stationed on this territory as of May 27, 1997

Art. 7. Participants who are member states of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization refuse to conduct any military activity on the territory of Ukraine, as well as other states of Eastern Europe, Transcaucasia and Central Asia (all joint exercises are stipulated no higher than the brigade level - this is no more than 2-3 thousand people, at distances of agreed width and configuration from the border line of the Russian Federation and the CSTO countries - author's note).

And all this ends with Article 9, which specifies that any party to the agreement can withdraw from it by sending the appropriate notification to the depositary. The agreement will terminate for such a participant 30 days after the notification is received by the depositary.

Summary: Security of the Russian Federation Ukraine will grow


To summarize, Moscow offers the States and their partners to create a security belt around the Russian Federation, i.e. reset the results of the Cold War, in which the United States considers itself victors, and return not even to 1997, but to 1991, when, after the collapse of the Union and the Warsaw Pact, five European countries - Austria, Sweden, Finland, Switzerland and Ireland, each pursuing their own goals, but still confirmed their neutral status. Sweden, Ireland and Switzerland are of little concern to us now, but the neutrality of Austria, adopted in 1955 by its parliament as a constitutional law, proclaiming its eternal neutrality and refusal in the future to participate in any military blocs and alliances and a ban on the deployment of any military bases on its territory, as well as the neutrality of Finland, established following the results of World War II by the Soviet-Finnish treaty of 1948, and subsequently recognized by all the major players of the Cold War, are of great interest to us. These countries, together with the countries of the Warsaw Pact Organization, created that very security buffer between the USSR and the aggressive NATO bloc. From a position of strength, Russia is now demanding the restoration of the status quo lost in 1991, extending this rule to Ukraine, first of all, as well as to the entire post-Soviet space, except for the Baltic countries (although, if they yelp loudly, we can extend this rule to them too) ... Why this happened, I will explain in the following texts, but for now I wanted to fix the idea of ​​the Finnishization of Ukraine as a way out of the current impasse, so as not to lead to the disappearance of this pseudo-country from political maps of the world in case of ignoring our requirements.

I would like to remind you that at the next annual press conference of the President of the Russian Federation to the question of the journalist of the British channel "Sky News" whether Russia can guarantee non-aggression against Ukraine, Putin did not give a direct answer, referring to the fact that it would depend on the West, thus, both Zelensky and Biden are in a state of unstable equilibrium - a step left or right - and you are dead. Putin ended his answer to the representative of Foggy Albion with the words:

This is not us for you, but you must give us guarantees! Moreover, immediately.

Earlier, Putin has already very clearly outlined his position on this issue, starting from the concept of freedom.

Every person is born to be free. This is his birthright! But the freedom of each individual person ends where the freedom of another person begins.

It is the same with security. Ukraine's security ends where Russia's security begins. Ukraine will either be a friendly country to Russia, neutral in relation to any military blocs, or it will not exist at all. This is the objective reality. It is dictated by Russia by the right of the strong. For the simple reason that the gunboat policy has not yet been canceled! You can ask the cheerful old man Joe about this, who with the help of his 11 AUG (aircraft carrier strike groups) can drive anyone into the Stone Age (anyone except the Russian Federation!). I hope I have conveyed the idea of ​​the President of the Russian Federation to you.

That's all for now. To be continued.
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  1. Teacher Offline Teacher
    Teacher (Wise) 4 January 2022 11: 17
    +6
    Strongly, hopefully in time and has a strong foundation underneath.
    But, if even now everything ends with the notorious "concerns", then everyone will turn their backs on Russia! The integrity and statehood of the Russian Federation is at stake!
    And it was necessary to bring this to all this? Now Putin needs to thin out his advisers. Remove those who brought this to all.
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 4 January 2022 12: 07
      +7
      wait you there someone to clean up! wait for the continuation, you will see that not everything is so simple, it was not the advisers who brought it, but the States, it was just that we could not issue an ultimatum to them before, we matured only by 2018, but even then only at the level of cartoons, now cartoons have transformed into videos of tests of real samples , after which the States became more compliant, but the threats to us have increased manifold. Why - about this in the following texts (there will be three more on this topic).
      1. olegfbi Offline olegfbi
        olegfbi (Oleg) 4 January 2022 13: 18
        +7
        Volkonsky (Vladimir), Good day!
        Regarding cartoons in 2018, half joke / half true:
        Regarding the poor graphics of "SHOCKING SLIDES" - a little explanation
        The graphics "suck" precisely because normal designers simply could not be admitted to this information. She was generally classified as "top secret" and "of special importance" only five hours ago ... Five hours ago, in the morning, yes! And among those who were admitted, there were no 3D masters, forgive me.
        As for the case, I liked your analytics very much and I look forward to the same serious continuation !!!
        Thank you!
    2. olegfbi Offline olegfbi
      olegfbi (Oleg) 4 January 2022 14: 19
      0
      Now Putin needs to thin out his advisers. Remove those who brought this to all.

      Unfortunately, and perhaps fortunately, the "Big Game" is not so simple! Yes, the integrity and statehood of the Russian Federation is really at stake! But with all this, the General Staff knows a lot and a lot more, accordingly planning and issuing informed recommendations to the President and his advisers.
      Something like this.
    3. Siluch Offline Siluch
      Siluch (nik) 4 January 2022 17: 35
      +2
      It seems that you praised it, but then you scoffed * l ... But what, only Putin "... brought to all this ..."? Aren't you going to "lick" the other side?
    4. sima.anwar Offline sima.anwar
      sima.anwar (Sima Anwar) 4 January 2022 21: 18
      +1
      Well, you ... probably overdid it with this very - Everyone. GDP can not even demand compliance with the constitution from state corporations !!! And this would lead almost automatically (well, if we trade for rubles and on ruble loans) to an increase of more than 10 times our real income. And you say everyone ...
    5. Igor Berg Offline Igor Berg
      Igor Berg (Igor Berg) 5 January 2022 23: 40
      0
      The integrity and statehood of the Russian Federation is at stake!

      Why couldn't the integrity and statehood for 20 years be strengthened in the simplest way - the standard of living at the level of Germany and Sweden? Who was in the way? A hackneyed template, an external enemy?
  2. All this is nonsense, doodles are always thrown!
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 4 January 2022 12: 10
      0
      reclined already! not this time!
      1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 4 January 2022 15: 28
        -10
        Donbass reunited? Children of parents with Russian passports stopped killing ammunition of the Armed Forces of Ukraine?
  3. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 4 January 2022 12: 15
    -2
    They haven’t signed anything yet and haven’t agreed on anything, but the author is already like a nightingale. You can immediately recognize the author by this style of toadying. Only there is one sign that is not good. As soon as Putin increases his activity at the international level, inside Russia the “screws” begin to tighten for his own people. And Putin immediately forgets about his promises to his people. So, good luck to us this year! And take care of your pockets.

    Well, if you don't like it in Russia, get it down!
    Well, if you don't like medicine, die!
    Well, if you don't like palm cheese in Russia, don't eat it!
    Well, if you don't like the salary, don't work!
    Well, I do not like that officials steal - kill yourself on the asphalt!
    Well, I don't like paying interest on deposits - keep your money under your pillow!
    Well, don't like asking permission to collect deadwood - freeze!


    You see, in Russia a person always has a choice.
    1. Vladimir501 Offline Vladimir501
      Vladimir501 (Vladimir) 4 January 2022 20: 22
      0
      Your personal and most correct choice is to go and kill yourself, preferably at once and not wait for someone to come for you, but they will definitely come. What Putin promises to his people, he does not promise, but sets tasks and formulates goals and determines the methods of achieving them, but does not promise, and if he does, it will be fulfilled almost instantly. And pick up the snot and it's slippery without you.
  4. Teacher Offline Teacher
    Teacher (Wise) 4 January 2022 12: 19
    -1
    Wait you there someone to clean up! wait for the continuation, you will see that not everything is so simple, it was not the advisers who brought it

    And who advised Putin to stay in the suburbs of Tbilisi, Mariupol, Donetsk? Who advised to recognize Poroshenko and Zelensky, Sanda? There were few violations at the elections? Who advised to swallow all that Russophobia that practically all the former republics of the USSR vomit out of themselves?
    Maybe he himself is so "sudden, contradictory"? Then everything is natural and moves in a certain direction.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 4 January 2022 15: 55
      +1
      Wait you there someone to clean up! wait for the continuation, you will see that not everything is so simple, it was not the advisers who brought it "
      And who advised Putin to stay in the suburbs of Tbilisi, Mariupol, Donetsk? Who advised to recognize Poroshenko and Zelensky, Sanda? There were few violations at the elections?

      Have you advised? Doesn't he have his own head on his shoulders or what? Geopolitical intelligence lawyer.
  5. sH, arK Offline sH, arK
    sH, arK 4 January 2022 12: 21
    +2
    The timing for such a proposal is right. Ahead is the adoption of a decision on cooperation with China in the military sphere. For Russia, today, in fact, China is not an ally, but the enemy of my enemy is almost a friend and ally. The United States is well aware of this too. To make a decision on the further development of the situation, which, of course, will again break the world again into two warring camps, it is necessary to clarify the position. If the United States accepts the demands of Russia, then this is one option, rejects - the other. But in any case, this is the Rubicon!

    In fact, now Russia found itself in the position of China in the 80s, then China chose the side of the United States. Now the question is simpler - Russia either remains on the sidelines or cooperates with China.
  6. Adler77 Offline Adler77
    Adler77 (Denis) 4 January 2022 12: 46
    -1
    As the saying goes: "take the load by yourself, so as not to fall when walking" smile
    It's funny adnaka.
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 4 January 2022 15: 26
      -8
      Exactly right good
      1. DV tam 25 Offline DV tam 25
        DV tam 25 (DV tam 25) 5 January 2022 03: 39
        -3
        I'm lying indefinitely!)
  7. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 4 January 2022 13: 51
    -1
    There is no desire to fill up with a nightingale now. The reasons - even more so.
    The guarantees that we will not threaten the States with nuclear weapons by us, in fact, have already been brought:
    As RIA Novosti reported on December 31:

    US President Joe Biden during a telephone conversation with Russian leader Vladimir Putin has repeatedly emphasized that a nuclear war cannot be started, nor can it be won, Yuri Ushakov, Assistant to the President for International Affairs, told reporters.

    One must think - persuaded.
    On January 3, a Joint Statement of the five nuclear states (including Russia) on the inadmissibility of a nuclear war took place (published on the Kremlin's website).
    There is nothing special in it, but after such a statement, Russia will be "very inconvenient" without a weighty reason to start deploying its nuclear forces and threaten the United States with its nuclear weapons in order to achieve the required security guarantees. I think that our leadership was well aware of this.
    It did not want to accept the heavy responsibility that fell upon it as a result of its long history of concessions and concerns. I washed my hands. Like this.
    I think that now we can only ask for guarantees from the States. Or dream about them.
    China does not need problems because Russia has allowed the United States to drive itself into a corner with its "concerns". This is her problem. China will not allow it to be solved at the expense of the security of others, and of itself in the first place.
    Shataty, Britain and France are satisfied with this position of China.
    The path to a new Cuban missile crisis, whatever it promises to Russia, is closed.
    It, with its demands for guarantees, will have to proceed from the threats of conventional weapons, but even here, probably, no one will allow it to reach the brink of a world war. Thus, Russia has no real levers to achieve guarantees. You can dream.
    Is it possible to get out of this situation? What can you say here?
    The history of Russia will give everyone and everything its impartial and merciless definition
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 4 January 2022 14: 18
      +4
      analysis of the level of a third-grader-poor student, you are not from ukraine for an hour?
      1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 4 January 2022 14: 21
        -1
        Anyway, I don't wear rose-colored glasses like you. I prefer to see the world as it really is, even if I don't like it
      2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 4 January 2022 14: 31
        0
        I have always been amazed at the irresponsibility of people who live in Russia, raise children here, and allow themselves to be frivolous about its future.
        I always have a question - is this not a sign that a person actually lives in another place, and is protected from the vicissitudes of her fate?
        Are you really Russian? Truth?
        Are you not worried about the fate of your home?
        1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
          Volkonsky (Vladimir) 4 January 2022 15: 11
          +7
          dear Alexey, I am from Ukraine, believe me, everything will be fine with you, with us it is unlikely. Everything is relative. The worst is behind you, and even worse times await us. This text is just the plot of the plot, I have not yet said the most important thing, the solution will not even be in the 2nd, but in the 3rd and 4th texts. I myself have fought over this riddle for the last 12 days, the puzzle did not add up, Putin could not substitute himself with this ultimatum, all the possible answers (and yours too) were in milk. I wrote, not rockets in Lat. America, not the Strategic Missile Forces in the Republic of Belarus and not a military alliance with the PRC - all this is banal. Putin thinks in other categories, which is why it is so difficult with him, he cannot be calculated. This is different. Think for yourself, what else does Uncle Vova have? And then think from the other side - what is it about Joe's grandfather that Putin cannot afford in any way? But he himself spoke about this several times, in plain text. Putin always plays openly and trumps. This time, Biden has nothing to interrupt, and therefore goes to negotiations. But he holds a stone in his bosom. Putin doesn’t believe him, and he doesn’t believe the signed papers either, only in deeds. Wait for the continuation, everything will fall into place - and why Donbass was not taken in the 14th, and why the ultimatum was rolled out only in the 21st
          1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
            gunnerminer (gunner miner) 4 January 2022 15: 21
            -8
            Non-patriots crying into someone else's vest evokes pity. They pity him, but they will not respect him. Drive away the Kiev junta, write letters to Girkin (Strelkov).

            Wait for the continuation, everything will fall into place - and why Donbass was not taken in the 14th, and why the ultimatum was rolled out only in the 21st

            Donbass dangles somewhere in the crotch, not taken. Neither Kiev, nor the Kremlin. And the population of Donbass has been suffering for more than 7 years from low unstable incomes, from shelling. Despite the losses of Biden, Obama, Bush Jr. and brilliant representatives of the LDNR Lukin and Gryzlov ...
            1. Adler77 Offline Adler77
              Adler77 (Denis) 4 January 2022 20: 03
              -1
              Not taken) taken, taken ... as much as there was courage and means then, at 14. And more, apparently, is not needed. This is such a hotbed of tension. If it were not for the Russian Federation, Ukraine would have already solved this issue, but the Russian Federation exists and will not allow it. But the Russian Federation will not invest in these territories either. And the real resolution of the conflict is also generally not interesting. So the LDNR will continue to hang out in a coma. Not alive, but not dead either.
              1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                gunnerminer (gunner miner) 4 January 2022 20: 22
                -7
                The civilian population of this unfortunate region suffers, including the youngest pre-conscripts. The shadow economy of the LPR absorbs considerable funds. The auditors are all local.
                1. Adler77 Offline Adler77
                  Adler77 (Denis) 4 January 2022 21: 35
                  -1
                  The problems of the LDNR population are of little concern to those in power in the Russian Federation. Their tasks are more global.
                  1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                    gunnerminer (gunner miner) 4 January 2022 22: 40
                    -7
                    Otherwise, no way.
          2. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
            Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 4 January 2022 17: 01
            -6
            Now your superficiality is understandable. In Ukraine, you can talk about our affairs easily and detached. Once she hastened to take a seat at the table where Russia will be hacked. Now, despite the fact that she is no longer sitting, but lying under this table, she is still not on the table
            1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
              Volkonsky (Vladimir) 5 January 2022 00: 04
              +6
              in vain you are so! Russia is not a foreign country to me, I just don’t meddle in its internal affairs, because a foreigner is for her, but I can figure it out in external affairs, you are really lucky with your president, this is the best thing that happened to the Russian Federation in the last 70 years after the Second World War, not be like some comrades here who judge the country about the thickness of the oil layer and complain that Putin spends money on cannons. Without guns and oil there will be no! In my opinion, it is seen by all sane people. They began to talk with Russia only now. Why not 2007, after Munich? because then the Russian Federation had nothing to show! and now there is! so old Biden runs ahead of the locomotive to negotiate with Putin, because it's scary:

              The one who shoots last laughs!

              (own observation).

              A kind word and a colt can achieve much more than just a kind word.

              (Al Capone)

              If a fight is inevitable, then you must hit first!

              (V.V. Putin)

              If I can, then I must!

              (V.V. Putin)

              Close this logical series yourself
              1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
                Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 5 January 2022 00: 30
                -1
                I don’t know how old you were in 2004 when the Baltic countries were admitted to NATO.
                The media then carefully formed the image of our president. Putin in a fighter jet. Putin on the bridge of the nuclear submarine, etc. I remember what a contrast to all this "PR" in the same media there was suddenly a message about the planned admission to NATO of the Baltic countries. I remember the general bewilderment, and mine too, about this. Especially in St. Petersburg. It's very close! Talk about unacceptably short flight times for missiles. Everyone was convinced that everything was under control - no big deal. Then some had the first suspicions of betrayal at the top - the Yeltsin times were still close.
                But ... Putin was on a horse. There was nothing else to show him then. They believed ...
                Since then, there have been many things that arouse bewilderment ... Again and again they believed.
                And now, the logical result. Your Ukraine is not a measure of good
                1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
                  Volkonsky (Vladimir) 5 January 2022 02: 10
                  +2
                  Once upon a time I scolded Putin, I said, if he is so strong, then why surround himself with such weaklings? but over time he grew wiser - https://proza.ru/2015/10/21/2165
                  Putin is loved for being Putin and scolded for not being Putin enough (personal observation)
                  1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
                    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 5 January 2022 13: 08
                    -3
                    scolded for not being Putin enough

                    Your observation is unfortunately wrong.
                    In fact, he is scolded for the fact that he turned out to be not the person that Russia needed, in whom the media dressed him up, and whom everyone saw in him.
                    He is not a breakthrough president. At all.
                    It proceeds from the possible, not from the necessary.
                    And the possible is, after all, a variable category that depends on desire and will.
                    People move mountains when needed
                    1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
                      Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 5 January 2022 13: 26
                      -2
                      I will add a few more words:
                      If a drowning man even 90% copes with the task of swimming to the shore, he will drown anyway.
                      Claims against the president may be about what he failed to do and what will be decisive for the survival of Russia. He had 20 years of time!
                      Not yet evening. Maybe he did whatever it takes
                    2. Nikolay Sviridenko (Nikolai) 5 January 2022 17: 23
                      -1
                      In fact, he is scolded for the fact that he turned out to be not the person that Russia needed, in whom the media dressed him up, and whom everyone saw in him.

                      I reasonably suspect that in the opinion of someone (um ...), such a person is you? What a blessing that "you were not there"! Thank you for being still alive! Seriously, no sarcasm, thanks!
                      1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
                        Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 5 January 2022 17: 25
                        0
                        Thank you, of course, that without sarcasm, but it was also possible without stupidity
            2. Sasha Anatolyevich (Sasha Anatolyevich) 5 January 2022 20: 09
              +1
              Dear, you got into the comments to the person who wrote the article. Did she interest you? Do you call the author superficial? decide more carefully.
          3. Sasha Anatolyevich (Sasha Anatolyevich) 5 January 2022 20: 03
            0
            Please enlighten about the continuation. When to wait for the rest of the pieces?
  8. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 4 January 2022 14: 17
    -7
    The Russian Federation is at the peak of the development of the economy and the armed forces, and it is difficult to stay at the peak for a long time. Therefore, it is reasonable that right now the Russian Federation has presented an ultimatum to the United States not only about the non-expansion of NATO at the expense of Sweden, Finland, Ukraine, Georgia, and subsequently Azerbaijan and Belarus.
    The return of NATO to the 1997 borders is a fantasy in order to drop the price in the course of trade. The maximum that can be counted on is NATO's consent to the non-deployment of Strike (!) Means (which is meant by this - they will argue for more than one year) on the territory of state formations adjacent to the Russian Federation.
    About the creation of the so-called. "Security belts" will probably come to an agreement if they solve the problem of the Crimea and the DPR-LPR. The DPR-LPR will surrender, perhaps even the Russian Federation will agree to the demilitarization of Crimea and the creation of a kind of free zone by analogy with the pre-war Danzig, but Sevastopol is a city of federal, not republican subordination, and therefore should not be a subject of trade.
    As a retaliatory step, the RF may be required to reduce certain weapons in the European part or to withdraw them beyond the Urals.
    One thing is clear, with all the desire to wait for the result, it will take more than one year. Such issues are not quickly resolved.
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 4 January 2022 15: 17
      +2
      decide! even faster than you think! 21 days ago you didn't even think about it! Biden will also hand over the Balts, and Poland and Romania, you'll see!
      1. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
        Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 4 January 2022 18: 04
        -4
        Have you heard the “joy” from the announced negotiations of the US-Britain-France-China-RF on the reduction of nuclear weapons?
        The government is striving to bring the level of existence of the population closer to the European level, otherwise it will not end well, and support the defense capability, otherwise it will also end badly.
        The United States and NATO with their associated and friendly state formations, in terms of mobilization, industrial, military and other potential, are many times superior to the Russian Federation - a complete analogy with North Korea, which is also inferior to South Korea and Japan in all respects and exists only due to the presence of nuclear weapons. Even if North Korea agrees to denuclearization, all will not be lost for it - they have the PRC as their friends, but who does the RF have? These negotiations will disarm and turn the Russian Federation into Muscovy, with which NATO and all other state institutions will do what they want, when they want and how they want.
        1. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
          Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 4 January 2022 18: 52
          -2
          The "joy" is that our strategic partner "suddenly" saw an opportunity for itself not to catch up with the Americans in terms of the number of nuclear weapons, but, on the contrary, to interest the States in reducing nuclear weapons by obtaining future advantages over us. The United States was interested in this topic before, because in conventional weapons they have an advantage over us. And the process will now be controlled by them. With the filing of China. Beneficiary of this venture.
          The masks of friends and partners are removed. The face of ruthless calculation is revealed.
          This is the supposed model of the situation.
          We can not go for it. But then we will lose some "gingerbread" from the PRC, and we will get "hemorrhoids" from them. On our already overloaded cart.
          All of these options MUST pre-view and analyze power as part of strategic analysis and planning. Since its arrival - since 2000. If, of course, this is a professional authority
          Everything would have been - then we would have been different
        2. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
          Volkonsky (Vladimir) 4 January 2022 23: 37
          0
          there is nothing wrong with that, we can even cut it down, just maintain a balance, do not forget, all the nuclear weapons of old models, it needs to be taken out of use, but we already have hyperweapons, but they do not have them yet, so here negotiations are from a position of strength
    2. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 4 January 2022 15: 19
      -5
      The question is whether Russia will go to a higher peak or fly down, as in 1991.
  9. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
    gunnerminer (gunner miner) 4 January 2022 15: 17
    -4
    In order to demand something from the customers of Gazprom and Rosneft customers, the Russian government needs to increase its population to at least 250 million. With a simultaneous economic and technological leap forward. Eliminate the colossal lag in robotics, electronics, machine tools, and engine building. drug addiction, alcoholism, HIV, AIDS.
    1. Nikolay Sviridenko (Nikolai) 5 January 2022 17: 17
      0
      Do you have something with vision, hearing and other senses? Or do you continue to believe in so-called bikes. "opposition"? Everything you have listed has long been done by the leadership of Russia. Or do you think that you can do it faster, in a month or two? Then why don't you manage some state program yet? Maybe because "professionalism" is enough only for empty comments on the Internet?
      1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 5 January 2022 18: 01
        -4
        Everything you have listed has long been done by the leadership of Russia

        Judging by the results, the opposite is true. The population of Russia is rapidly declining. Hundreds of Chinese plowed at the construction of the Far Eastern shipyard instead of Russian-made robots. At the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome, Uzbeks are plowing.
  10. Teacher Offline Teacher
    Teacher (Wise) 4 January 2022 15: 50
    +4
    Now the verbal balancing act will begin. NATO and the United States will put forward their own conditions, no doubt humiliating for Russia. And you can't get through them. They do not see strength and determination. They see the drooling of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation, the export of capital to the West, etc.
    There is only one way to end this orgy. A kick in the groin of rabid Europe. There is nothing better than the Odessa region for this. Geography itself suggests. People (2-3 million people), moaning there from the Ukronazis, will greet the strategic region with flowers. Here and Romania on a silver platter and Moldova and Ukraine, cut off from the sea. Danube, ports, airfields. Everything is almost in the center of Europe. Erdogan is close. The main task of the 14th Guards Army of the USSR Armed Forces standing here was to reach the Bosphorus.
    1. Yuri Neupokoev Offline Yuri Neupokoev
      Yuri Neupokoev (Yuri Neupokoev) 5 January 2022 00: 06
      +1
      It's tempting, of course.
      But, as the saying goes: "there is strength, there is will, but there is no willpower."
      And there must also be wisdom based on knowledge, experience, spirit and cold calculation.
      Not to mention dexterity, hardening and training)
  11. shinobi Offline shinobi
    shinobi (Yuri) 4 January 2022 15: 52
    0
    The Yankees will act in their usual manner. Since they cannot impose, they cannot intimidate, to accept means to lose face. Although much more. They will red tape and talk. As was the case with Trump's Korean crisis.
  12. Demonlivi Offline Demonlivi
    Demonlivi (Dima) 4 January 2022 16: 06
    0
    How long have the Americans and their NATO retinue been humiliating Russia, it hurts to read and watch! As Yakov Kedmi said: Russia has opened a window of opportunity for no longer than a period of time, and it would be a sin not to take advantage of it! So let's wait!
    1. Nikolay Sviridenko (Nikolai) 5 January 2022 17: 11
      0
      The words of the former citizen of the USSR Y. Kazakov (Kedmi) should not be particularly trusted. For he does not work for the Russian Federation, but for Israel. And to catch the moment when he is lying is quite difficult, because he is a professional. He speaks beautifully, but for better digestibility, shit (sorry!) Should be mixed with 95% honey (undeniable truth).
      Add Satanovsky there too. For at the moment when the interests of Israel and Russia come into conflict, it will broadcast by no means in the interests of Russia ...
  13. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
    Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 4 January 2022 16: 20
    -6
    Kremlin Demands Review of Cold War Outcomes

    There is such a bearded anecdote:

    Estonian parliament proposed to revise the results of World War II
    The Russian parliament offered to show the Estonian one.

    So the "zapad" may well re-show the results of the Cold War.
    The author can be envied. He has such a childish delight from the next HSP, like my 3-year-old son, when he finds a gift from Santa Claus under the tree.
    The only thing embarrassing is that he is delighted by the leader who threatens to bomb his home country, his hometown, if only the "almighty" Biden speaks to him.
  14. Avarron Offline Avarron
    Avarron (Sergei) 4 January 2022 16: 42
    +1
    Good journalist, managed to intrigue. I am waiting for the disclosure of the indicated topics.
  15. Mark Offline Mark
    Mark (Mark) 4 January 2022 17: 14
    +1
    All dreams of territorial parity in the times and borders of the USSR with a belt are only desirable. The Yankees will show their agility even here. To issue an ultimatum to Washington and NATO in a situation where the Kremlin has a Washington spy around every corner, and the entire economy of the country is supported by the money of the West, looks improbable. A simple exclamation of a flounder in the sea. Of course well thought out. But it is aimed at the general public. Did the UN say nothing about this? Much has been said about this in the eyes of the West, Putin personally expressed his dissatisfaction with Mrs Merkel when she sent (personal correspondence with Putin) to Washington. It was on this topic that was spoken about. And no one heard this message to the West from the Russian Federation.
  16. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
    Pishenkov (Alexey) 4 January 2022 17: 40
    +3
    ... yes, Wolf, cool and reassuring! Until recently, we could not even dream of such a thing, this is a fact. And the fact that VVP never bluffs, and if so, then the safety net of all these words is also surely lethal, this is also understandable. Apparently not only to us.
    But most of all I am interested in the "inside" that you threaten to give out in the next article. I initially assumed that they would not agree, and then I would have to somehow toughly act (see my article a week ago). But, to be honest, and based on my own life experience, I somehow do not want confrontation. So I really hope that what you promise to announce will still work.
    We are looking forward to the continuation hi
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 4 January 2022 23: 50
      +1
      Lesha, hello, with the past and the upcoming! I read your article, I even wanted to unsubscribe, but I promised the admin that I’ll finally not answer anyone, you see, I’ve already broken my word. Your version seemed interesting to me then, to bomb on an anti-missile defense system in Romania and Poland (so far, by the way, there is nothing in Poland, but they are planning to do it), I even wrote to Ruslan about this, but then I myself was tormented by the question of why such a greyhound at GDP what's up your sleeve? he couldn’t be so substituted with his ultimatum, and if they didn’t agree, what then? that's what then ??? nobody knows! everyone is guessing - an alliance with the People's Republic of China, missiles and strategists at the daddy, a missile defense base and attack missiles in Cuba and Venezuela? all by! No! Uncle Vova has something more terrible, and grandfather Joe knows about it, and you know, but you look away, and Putin is not hiding anything, where are you all looking? True, I also looked and did not see, but Putin has nowhere to retreat, behind Moscow, in the literal sense of the word, literally! Biden pinned him to the wall, so he can beat him, but not in Poland, but in Ukraine, there is the main threat - about this in the 3rd text (I am writing right now), and in the 4th I will open the cards
      1. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
        Pishenkov (Alexey) 5 January 2022 10: 45
        0
        Well, OK. I'm waiting. I also had a thought - about the Caliber, initially, too, everyone was sure that the range was about 500. Maybe there is something similar here, such as the real properties of some new types of weapons are much superior to those originally declared ...
        Or here Angara either brought something into orbit, or it was not enough ... And it seems like it was ballast in general. Everything is somehow dark, but the report was suspiciously cheerful. I immediately remembered the film with Bond about "Golden Eye" wink Well, it's somehow strange that a lead or concrete box will be thrown into orbit on a several billion rocket during the third test, no?
        Why did he promise not to answer? On the contrary, the site in + should be when discussions are going on, people are rummaging around here, what's wrong?
        And you, too, with all the past and still coming! All the best!
        1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
          Volkonsky (Vladimir) 5 January 2022 11: 50
          +1
          with the performance characteristics of products, you think correctly, but this applies to zircons with their declared 1000 km, calibers with their range of 2,5 thousand km with the declared 450 km hiccuped for a long time to one very tanned gentleman who threatened to break something there, the economy of the Russian Federation, it seems As a result, Toko's pants were torn from the waist down. With a hangar past the checkout - just the upper stage did not work, in the next. once it works
          with the admin - he just made a remark to me that I do not follow the ethics of communication, I said that it’s easier for me not to communicate, but again I did not keep my word
          but with an ultimatum, think at your leisure, after all, Putin is far from being a dick, and if he offers a dock, which cannot be initially accepted, it means he needed a refusal, but for what, think for yourself! I am writing about this in the 3rd text (finished today)
          but with regard to military measures, you will have to wait for the 4th, and so the brute force on the signs is frantic
          1. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
            Pishenkov (Alexey) 5 January 2022 11: 58
            0
            OK. I'm waiting. Brevity is not always the sister of talent. wink
            1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
              Volkonsky (Vladimir) 5 January 2022 13: 21
              0
              hangara is a beautiful version, but after all, it was after the ultimatum, the cause-and-effect relationship is violated
              1. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
                Pishenkov (Alexey) 5 January 2022 23: 09
                +1
                Well, why - we are getting ready. They are also preparing - in Kazakhstan. Everything is working according to the old schemes in Langley ... They think the GDP will lead. But there will be the same as in Belarus, but according to the best (for us) scenario and with all the bells and whistles and the end of the multi-vector. We all know that revolutions do not happen by themselves ...
                1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
                  Volkonsky (Vladimir) 6 January 2022 01: 24
                  0
                  it looks like there was no amers here, the Turks helped
                2. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
                  Volkonsky (Vladimir) 6 January 2022 03: 09
                  +1
                  https://topcor.ru/23437-v-almate-nachalis-ulichnye-boi-s-ispolzovaniem-strelkovogo-oruzhija.html
                  I was wrong - the Americans are working with their hands
                  1. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
                    Pishenkov (Alexey) 6 January 2022 23: 35
                    +1
                    not with your hands, of course, but not without participation. But here, as I said, luck is that the "partners" have not come up with anything new - everything is according to Sharpe's methodology.
                    + It is also clear to what extent the "elites" and the system were rotten there, even if they cannot count on their own army and police. Yes, and the army + the police on your Maidan have seen enough of how they were treated there, so now they don't know what to do and whom to protect - these are also the consequences of Ukraine.
                    Well, nothing, Tokayev turned to the CSTO on time. Lukashenka’s current position is clearly more to his liking than that of Yanukovych. So they will crush all the "protesters" there and do the right thing, it is impossible with this bastard in any other way
                    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
                      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 7 January 2022 02: 53
                      +1
                      why did he displace Nazarbayev? I have a feeling that it was Tokayev's operation under a false flag - he gave Almaty to be plundered, at the same time everything was calm in the capital, he showed that the protesters were marginalized and looters, then he turned to the CSTO for help and began a sweep, all sleeping cells identified, cleaned up 10 years ahead and lay under the Kremlin, where he lay before. One question is - how did Nazarbayev interfere with him and the Kremlin? but there is no doubt that Kazakhstan will repeat the path of Belarus. For pi * ndos - a false start.
                      1. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
                        Pishenkov (Alexey) 7 January 2022 19: 29
                        0
                        so Nazarbayev left the post of president himself and remained "the leader of the nation" for a long time. On the contrary, everything was cleverly done, he appointed a successor for himself (what quality is another question, but finding a good leader today is really a problem), and there are no complaints about the irremovability of power, etc.
                        True, to this day, they obviously did not intend to fall under the Russian Federation, but they also played multi-vector - so, damn it, we finished badly ... The rest of the beys will be science ...
                      2. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
                        Pishenkov (Alexey) 7 January 2022 19: 59
                        0
                        PS and Tokayev, by the way, was scared in earnest - it was even evident from him!
                        It is inappropriate for the president and the commander-in-chief to behave this way ... He definitely tensed up and ran to Nazar, what should he do? And he said to him: call ka you are nice man VVP, otherwise all of us here is a skiff ...
                        I am somehow sure that in general terms it was so ...
                      3. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
                        Volkonsky (Vladimir) 7 January 2022 23: 08
                        0
                        You know, Lesha, I have a feeling that this is all the operation of the VVP to remove Nazar from the levers of power, why did Tokayev remove his boss from the life-long post of head of the Security Council, and then cleansed the government of his people? How did this help him fight the protest? By the way, did you pay attention to the fact that the cleansing of Almaty was carried out by the special forces of Kazakhstan, and not by the arriving peacekeepers. Moreover, he spent very good. competently and calmly, they fired to kill immediately, without talking. Tokayev has a business in the Russian Federation, he was under the Kremlin before, maybe more manageable than Nazar. Although I personally liked Nazar very much, and with the appearance of Tokayev, all sorts of perversions, such as language patrols, and so on, began. nationalist bastard
                      4. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
                        Pishenkov (Alexey) 7 January 2022 23: 47
                        +1
                        Nazarbayev himself had problems with the environment. Why, all these new "states" - the former republics of the USSR, were rotten from the very beginning. All the former Komsomol members are businessmen, and the communists are the authorities. Everyone who has ruined the country before. What was there to expect from them? What could they build? Do we have someone without wars and coups, except for the Balts, who have always, and in the Union, have been different? And as for Asia, with their layouts, there is nothing to say at all ...
                        And about the special forces it is correct - the mandate of the CSTO in this case is PEACEFUL, i.e. they release those few local divisions, which the authorities trust, just for cleansing. And they themselves sort out the protection of important objects - this is a standard practice.
                        And the "partners" have nothing to find fault with formally ... Well, it’s all without them! Don't go to a fortune-teller! This is how they are preparing for the decisive negotiations with VVP, s..kiny children ...
                      5. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
                        Volkonsky (Vladimir) 7 January 2022 23: 54
                        0
                        look at where the Russian Avangards are, and then see how much from there to the border with Kazakhstan, here's your answer, Vanguards are installed in mine-based ICBMs, by the way, you will understand one of the reasons for Biden's fears, the second will arrive from space, or rather, on the contrary, it will hit space and FSE - the blind is not a warrior!
                      6. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
                        Pishenkov (Alexey) 8 January 2022 13: 32
                        0
                        I wrote you the answers and decided to clothe it in a more coherent form wink
                        https://topcor.ru/23470-kazahstan-nevernyj-hod-zapada-veduschij-k-vozrozhdeniju-sojuza.html
  • Sasha Anatolyevich (Sasha Anatolyevich) 5 January 2022 20: 14
    0
    It seems to me, on the eve of BB, a report was put on the table on the positive results in the development of some kind of wunderfawl (possibly a wunderwafel complex) and judging by the reaction of the pindas, they are very aware of everything.
    I'll climb to reconsider what Kedmi mentioned about the grazer.)
    1. Pishenkov Offline Pishenkov
      Pishenkov (Alexey) 5 January 2022 23: 16
      +1
      And I'll wait for Volkonsky. Kedmi, of course, is a smart guy, but he has no real sources. Although he kind of mysteriously crumples and winks, like they say there are accesses, but in reality there is no fig, no one will tell him anything, the man just knows how to analyze the available facts - what he himself will get, he gives out. Like the Wolf. So the chances are that Kedmi will say more than Volkonsky 50/50, as well as truthfulness ... hi
      If Kedmi has good ties somewhere in the Russian Federation, it is not in the defense industry, not in intelligence and not in the Armed Forces, but on television. wink
  • sapper2 Offline sapper2
    sapper2 (Minesweeper2) 4 January 2022 18: 39
    +3
    Probably, "forceful" confirmation of these requirements will be required ...
  • Alexander Konchenkov (Alexander Konchenkov) 4 January 2022 18: 47
    -13
    Putin considers himself only one in this world to be smart. Lavrov, Shoigu, Peskov, M. Zakharova, and others followed him. But once they were people. Power and money ruined them completely.
    Putin has now started a game of "Relaxing Tensions". He thinks that everyone in the world is fool, and therefore sets his own conditions on which the whole world should play.
    1. tulip Offline tulip
      tulip 4 January 2022 22: 05
      +2
      yeah, this is Russia with the Crimea, such as aggressive, but the fact that NATO has approached the borders of Russia since the collapse of the USSR, then that NATO has unleashed several wars around the world, waving test tubes at the UN and did not bear any responsibility for this, then that NATO itself wanted to Crimea staging a coup in Ukraine and bringing Russophobes to power, etc. and so on - this does not count))) Enough already here your Svidomo nonsense to write - just with Crimea you got in the muzzles and just can't come to your senses - how is it - you thought that you can do everything, and Russia will wipe it off. And then it didn't work out - and Svidomo began "And we are for sho?")))
    2. Yuri Neupokoev Offline Yuri Neupokoev
      Yuri Neupokoev (Yuri Neupokoev) 4 January 2022 23: 56
      +2
      Dear, you do not fully understand everything.
      1. Russia desperately does not want to fight with Ukraine, but the Naglo-Saxons are pushing it in every possible way (in vain hoping to get benefits from this), and to whom your government bowed completely. If only your "elite" will go to the transcendental provocation (their own or with the filing of the Naglo-Saxons).
      2. If your power had not fallen under the Naglo-Saxons in due time and would not have come to power "Roguli-Nazis" who are very passionate, arrogant and merciless to seize power and keep most of the population in fear, but not wise and educated enough, to create a country out of the multinational people of Ukraine. And Crimea would not have gone to Russia, if not for the actions of the Naglo-Saxons and the stupidity and venality of the Ukrainian elite. Russia simply did not have a choice, and now there is almost no choice. Think, juxtapose the facts.
      3. Normal people in Russia do not want to fight the Ukrainians (not Bandera). I like the Ukrainian language (I don't speak, but I understand a lot - especially songs). I like Ukrainian cuisine). I know Ukrainians as responsible, hard-working and stubborn (sometimes harmful) people. But do not be impudent and so count on the Naglo-Saxons (read the story).
      4. I believe you are at the mercy of your media propaganda. But here I can do nothing) You are offended by evil Putin here) I assure you, Putin is still very diplomatic, peaceful and patient in relation to Ukraine. We are brotherly peoples, but do not test the patience of the brothers. Betrayal (and the embodied goal of your elite to lie under the naglo-Saxons is betrayal) - make you draw conclusions ...
      5. Understand that Ukraine will not move to America. We will be neighbors with you, however. Become a really independent country where there is no power of the Naglo-Saxons (they and their adherents and we have in the elite) and respect-understand the opinions of people and the aspirations of all regions. And you will be respected. You had everything for this and still have it.

      Attentive let him hear, reasonable let him understand, wise let him do
    3. zenion Offline zenion
      zenion (zinovy) 5 January 2022 00: 50
      +1
      Alexander Konchenkov. So there are no wars around the US borders? So why did Mark Twain call the United States the United Lynching States? So there was no attack on Cuba? Was there an attack on Mexico? The attack on the islands, which the United States sided with, like Hitler did not happen? Ordinary USA schism!
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  • Yuri Neupokoev Offline Yuri Neupokoev
    Yuri Neupokoev (Yuri Neupokoev) 4 January 2022 21: 40
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    Don't believe what they say

    The article, for me, is too optimistic.
    I will try to be brief.
    1. Indeed, the Anglo-Saxons are unchanged. And at the present time and especially invincible)
    2. I suppose, if our fifth column (and of which there are innumerable in the elite) were not provided with an alternative to the "real" (which, I don’t know), then such a statement from our ... would not have been ...
    3. Apparently, over the past time since 2018, there have been some shifts in terms of the implementation of the number of "cartoons" and their placement. Or maybe those who remained behind the scenes. And this was announced, but not to everyone ...
    4. It is not for nothing that our main men, at the moment, have declared all these documents openly. I think that henceforth they sometimes need to be "intimidated" by the publication of the negotiations.
    5. The fact of the obligatory participation in the negotiations of the military elite on the other side is encouraging, although it is not a fact that they are completely adequate. But, I think, more adequate than politicians.
    6. The idea of ​​ukrainization of Finland sounded in the media) (in the sense of NATO) Apparently the bargaining is already underway (or stuffing). Only the Finns hardly need it).
    7. This is not all that I wanted to say, this is just speculation. Wait and see. But, I think there will be no war, because it is already underway ...
  • Yuri Neupokoev Offline Yuri Neupokoev
    Yuri Neupokoev (Yuri Neupokoev) 4 January 2022 22: 56
    +1
    And, yes! The main thing. With the Naglo-Saxons, it makes no sense to conduct adequate (from the other side) negotiations, if you do not hold them in one place, or better yet, a gun to the temple. Well, a kind word, of course ... it doesn't hurt ...)
    But it seems to me, gentlemen-comrades, that there are kind words on our part, we put a pistol to their temples (for example, mathematics, physics and geography for us)), but who is holding whom for what is a controversial issue, given that they have very good chemistry (especially some specific organic chemistry around the perimeter, and in other places (sports) too), that their adherents are in our elite, not to mention the army of many representatives of one of the most ancient professions (not ... ducks , but many are worse than them), as well as in the word "FINANCE" (read global financial capital), which should soon become a dirty word. For the financiers soon want to absorb everything and stratification, pandemics, population decline, etc. will grow ... And most importantly - control over a person (his most base thoughts, which is already underway). There will be almost no mind and soul.
    What to do to resist this is a separate topic. And it's not just a matter of mind ...
  • zenion Offline zenion
    zenion (zinovy) 5 January 2022 00: 44
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    Oh, how you want to return, oh, how you want to break into the town ... But, unfortunately, the town was destroyed by those who frighten others with them.
  • Igor Petrovich Offline Igor Petrovich
    Igor Petrovich (Igor) 5 January 2022 01: 10
    +1
    Few people know that nuclear weapons are PERISHING product! A nuclear bomb CONSTANTLY RADIES, that is, it loses mass. After a certain loss, IT IS NOT FIT. 15 years and the charge is useless! Physics cannot be fooled, no matter what fantastic theories Y might invent. Otherwise, there would have been tragedies in Korea and Vietnam. As a fact, only two factories are engaged in the disposal of nuclear material and one in Russia, and the second is far from the states. Hence the conclusion that NUCLEAR MATERIAL and WEAPON POTENTIAL are available only to those who can re-enrich or dispose of it. Fakes about subsequent nuclear explosions (tests) are just explosions of a huge amount of TNT, which also has an expiration date and which must be disposed of as nuclear. The Germans captured 4 charges. One was blown up in Denmark on an island, one in NEVADA, and two in Japan. The destruction is almost the same as from the usual carpet bombing. The OV did not have and DOES NOT have any more nuclear weapons. How do they enrich him? Where is it being developed and on what? And in order to build a nuclear power, you need CLOSED CITIES, research institutes, simple INSTITUTIONS and SUPER EDUCATION, not EG. America is the country of DEBILOV. Yes, SOMETHING is being laid at nuclear power plants. But this is something NOT good for nuclear weapons. There you need only "armory ..." It is not for nothing that the United States withdrew from all agreements on nuclear weapons. No wonder they demand from Russia to get rid of its nuclear weapons. No wonder they stopped supplying allegedly spent nuclear waste to Russia. The United States simply does not have them. And Russia has long drawn attention to the fact that it is not nuclear testing that is being brought in, but some kind of rubbish and garbage. And after repeated warnings, she stopped taking it. No wonder they have introduced the doctrine of supposedly small nuclear charges into their supposedly "smart missiles" ... Do not see that the technologies for the manufacture of a nuclear charge have long been known, that everything has long been described in textbooks, that Academician Sakharov has put everything on the shelves long ago. HE is just a dummy duck. We even classify the inventor of cartridges, and even the inventor of nuclear weapons ... Who would have released him abroad. But Sakharov freely traveled there. It's just that the whole world is following the wrong trail - according to Sakharov's "invention". Nuclear weapons work according to completely different principles and laws. And these technologies were possessed only by the USSR, and now Russia.
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    2. Nikolay Sviridenko (Nikolai) 5 January 2022 16: 48
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      Igor Petrovich.
      Underestimating the enemy is the fastest path to defeat. The United States has enough NOT its own learned minds, bought for dollars. So they will quickly restore everything that the United States has lost over the past 25 years. Fortunately, the "shining city on the hill" ™ has all the documentation for sure in complete safety ...
  • Boris the Imperialist (Boris Kuzmin) 5 January 2022 01: 15
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    Without starting negotiations, the Russian Federation lost them. If NATO fully accepts Russian security requirements and presents similar requirements that are not acceptable to the Russian Federation.
  • NatiKoshka_87 Offline NatiKoshka_87
    NatiKoshka_87 (Ela) 5 January 2022 03: 58
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    Quote: Boris the Imperialist
    Without starting negotiations, the Russian Federation lost them. If NATO fully accepts Russian security requirements and presents similar requirements that are not acceptable to the Russian Federation.

    Right. As a result, neither the Russian Federation, nor the United States, nor NATO will accept each other's proposals, because NATO and the United States will certainly roll out their proposals of the Russian Federation, the rejection of which automatically makes the Russian proposals not accepted. And then what? And then only the war ... Perhaps a loud rattling of weapons. Or a swamp of endless negotiations, which is unlikely.
  • DV tam 25 Offline DV tam 25
    DV tam 25 (DV tam 25) 5 January 2022 04: 00
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    Now the main thing is not to leave the race. Otherwise ... it won't be otherwise. Hope ... Hope ...
  • Valera75 Online Valera75
    Valera75 (Valery) 5 January 2022 10: 00
    +1
    As the actions (ultimatum) of Russia show, as the author writes that everything will be decided much faster than it will take years, it means that a lot, if not everything, will be decided in the near future.
  • Nikolay Sviridenko (Nikolai) 5 January 2022 16: 41
    +1
    The article was slightly surprised by the author's bold assumptions, but not really. Struck by another.
    I read the comments. Saddened. Are people really that in love with themselves? Knowing at most 0,5% of the information that the President knows, they try not only to criticize his decisions, but also give advice! And how has he still not destroyed the country without your "wise" teachers? Do not even know...
    There is nothing to say about the degree of literacy of the "advisers", they do not even know the rules for writing a soft sign in verbs, but there are also purely new county Kissingers!
    Forgive me, but this reminds me of the plot of some very old fairy tale, how frogs from a swamp tried to teach the life of an eagle. But he didn't hear them. Fortunately for them. Although ... Eagles do not eat toads.
  • Nikolay Sviridenko (Nikolai) 5 January 2022 17: 02
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    Calmed down a bit. Now an appeal to the author.
    Don't be so optimistic. I will not say for the whole army, only what I know from reliable sources. The only very narrowly specialized military university in the Russian Federation (not in Moscow and very much in demand by banks, for example). In 2001, no more than 20% of "paid students" studied there (illegally, of course), now - for a platoon (30 people), there are 27-28 of them. You can calculate the percentages yourself. I don’t know the history of degradation, it just so happened that I was aware of my studies then and right now.
  • Valera75 Online Valera75
    Valera75 (Valery) 6 January 2022 05: 39
    +1
    I sat yesterday and thought that Putin would not place any bases near the United States or in Belarus anywhere. In Cuba or Venezuela, it is necessary to negotiate, and Putin will not put them in jeopardy before the states, he will place a powerful base with nuclear weapons in the Arctic to supply energy floating reactors are being created by Rosatom, but that’s not the point. I think that Putin said several things to Bidon head on, or rather laid the cards open on the table.
    1: Either I declare all laboratories around Russia as a threat to the state and eliminate them, or you remove them all from there and far beyond the borders of the republics of the former USSR within the time period I have set.
    2: I know that Ukraine is yours and the British have a springboard for the preparation of meat that you train and send to dad, or like now to Kazakhstan and in 2024 to Russia. Or you leave there forever or Ukraine will never be under someone's influence because it will become a part Russia in a short time. I made such a conclusion looking at what happens to the Kazakhs and then we will have. There is already a real threat to us, because we already said that in 2024 if Putin wins we will not recognize and this means tires, Molotov cocktails and other shit. We will be headed by the Natsiks from the Nezalezhnaya who are already preparing to shake Russia in full, but with Ukraine we really need to end it and Putin has known this for a long time. I think everything will start soon, but it will not start, what sad events will begin in 2 years, but for me, having gone through a mess humpback, drunk and collapse of the 90th, how you do not want to plunge into these troubled times again.
  • Valera75 Online Valera75
    Valera75 (Valery) 6 January 2022 05: 45
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    Quote: Valera75
    I sat yesterday and thought that Putin would not place any bases near the United States or in Belarus anywhere. In Cuba or Venezuela, you need to negotiate, and Putin will not put them in jeopardy before the states, he will place a powerful base with nuclear weapons in the Arctic to supply energy floating reactors are being created by Rosatom, but that’s not the point. I think that Putin said several things to Bidon head on, or rather laid the cards open on the table.
    1: Either I declare all laboratories around Russia as a threat to the state and eliminate them, or you remove them all from there and far beyond the borders of the republics of the former USSR within the time period I have set.
    2: I know that Ukraine is yours and the British are a platform for the preparation of meat that you train and send to daddy, or like now to Kazakhstan and in 2024 to Russia. Or you leave there forever or Ukraine will never be under someone's influence because it will become a part Russia in a short time. I made such a conclusion looking at what happens to the Kazakhs and then we will have. There is already a real threat to us, because we already said that in 2024 if Putin wins we will not recognize and this means tires, Molotov cocktails and other shit. We will be headed by the Natsiks from the Nezalezhnaya who are already preparing to shake Russia in full, but with Ukraine we really need to end it and Putin has known this for a long time. I think everything will start soon, but it will not start, what sad events will begin in 2 years, but for me, having gone through a mess humpback, drunk and collapse of the 90th, how you do not want to plunge into these troubled times again.

    It is not for nothing that the cells are being created in our country, and ours have already eliminated more than a hundred of them, it is not for nothing that they are rolling in the decrees, nothing just happens, there is a planned preparation for the collapse of Russia. the ocean to the bear and scare the enemy, it is enough that there will be peace and quiet around the den for hundreds of kilometers