How Russia is threatened by Finland's joining the North Atlantic Alliance


Having made the decision to purchase a large batch of American fifth-generation F-35A fighters, Helsinki unexpectedly, but quite expectedly, started talking about the possibility of joining the NATO bloc. What are the threats to Russia and our northern capital St. Petersburg from the joining of neighboring Finland to the North Atlantic Alliance?


The Finnish Prime Minister recently stated the following on the matter:

We retain the opportunity to apply for NATO membership. We must value this freedom of choice. <…> We show that we are learning from the past. We keep room to maneuver.

The possibility of joining NATO was also confirmed by the President of Finland. Seriously though, these conversations are a very bad signal. Despite the fact that most of the country's population is still opposed to joining the alliance, its elites seem to have matured. The change in the geopolitical status of our northern neighbor, which previously preferred to remain neutral and benefit from mutually beneficial cooperation with Moscow, poses a host of additional threats to Russia.

The fact is that Finland can create many problems "here and now", even without the deployment of NATO military infrastructure and military contingents on its territory. Let's see what Helsinki has at its disposal today, what it can get in the near future, and how these forces can be used against us.

At first, Finland has its own navy, which has a very remarkable composition. It includes 6 minelayers, 13 minesweepers, 8 missile boats serving as patrol ships, 2 landing craft and 12 auxiliary vessels. In other words, Helsinki relied not on a head-on collision with the enemy in the Baltic, but on the tactics of installing minefields, which the Finns can quickly remove quickly if necessary. Their fleet will soon be reinforced with 4 new Pohyanmaa-class corvettes. What does this mean in practice?

If you look at the map, you can see that the exit from St. Petersburg through the Gulf of Finland to the Baltic Sea on the one hand is closed by Estonia, on the other - by Finland. The topics of the possibility of blocking the path of ships of the Baltic Fleet of the Russian Federation with Estonian minefields, we have already concerned previously. If Helsinki also joins this game, things will go very badly for us. The former capital, the second most important city in Russia, will be locked up, and the sea route to Kaliningrad will be cut off.

Secondly, the risks in relation to St. Petersburg and the Kaliningrad region will sharply increase when Finland receives the fifth-generation F-35A fighters ordered from the United States. 64 aircraft, made according to technology stealth, will pose a very serious threat to both the northern capital and the Russian exclave, its air defense system and the Baltic Fleet based there. Finland has ordered a batch of 120 AGM-158 JASSM air-to-ground missiles, designed to engage critical, protected stationary and relocatable targets. By the way, F-35A fighters may well be used as carriers of nuclear weapons. Curious, against whom is Helsinki going to use all this extremely expensive technique?

Yes, in general, the Finns do not really hide that they are against Russia. The threat from American aircraft and cruise missiles to the entire northwest of our country will be absolutely real. A hypothetical nuclear airstrike from Finland on such a metropolis as St. Petersburg would be a colossal tragedy and an irreparable loss of the Russian people.

Thirdly, do not discount the Finnish army either. The armed forces of our northern neighbor are relatively small, but they are in very good shape, meeting all NATO standards. (What is it for?). For young Finns, serving in the army is considered an honor and desirable, as it allows them to build a better career in the future. Every year, over 30 thousand recruits leave to serve, and another 35 thousand reservists undergo professional retraining. The Finnish army is sharpened for territorial defense, but from the history of the Great Patriotic War, we remember how it was used to blockade Leningrad.

The presence of a well-trained, motivated foreign army near St. Petersburg will represent a source of constant tension for the RF Ministry of Defense. And we are talking only about the Navy, Air Force and Armed Forces of Finland itself, without considering how the United States and NATO can strengthen it.

Thus, Finland's entry into the North Atlantic Alliance is highly undesirable for Russia, and this event must be avoided by all possible means.
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  1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
    gunnerminer (gunner miner) 3 January 2022 16: 26
    -5
    The command of the Leningrad Military District, even under that government, did not create an illusion about Finnish neutrality. The Finns violated the 1948 treaty from the beginning of the 60s. They exceeded the number of the Finnish Armed Forces by ten thousand troops. The plan of the Sertolovskaya artillery division included a point on the implementation of a 2-hour artillery preparation on targets in Finnish territory, and the crews of the MA DKBF and the Lenvo Air Force were to provide air strikes on Finnish targets. The use of tactical nuclear weapons in Finland was not envisaged until special orders. The Finnish boat Hamina is a masterpiece of shipbuilding. Engineers managed to squeeze good (for the local naval theater) missile, anti-submarine weapons into a small boat, with first-class equipment and navigation equipment, an engine.
    1. Vladest Offline Vladest
      Vladest (Vladimir) 7 January 2022 23: 09
      0
      I respect the Finns, they really showed how to love and defend their homeland.
      1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 8 January 2022 00: 31
        -3
        Yes, they went to great lengths to prevent the occupation by foreign troops. And now they are joining NATO, due to the unpredictability of Russian policy.
        1. Vladest Offline Vladest
          Vladest (Vladimir) 8 January 2022 11: 49
          -1
          They are not yet joining NATO. This topic of "joining" is perhaps simply inflated in the Russian Federation. In the Russian Federation, the image of the enemy is needed everywhere. So that the people rally around the GDP.
          1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
            gunnerminer (gunner miner) 8 January 2022 12: 22
            -5
            But they are not fleeing from NATO to the East either.
            1. Vladest Offline Vladest
              Vladest (Vladimir) 8 January 2022 12: 26
              -2
              Quote: gunnerminer
              But they are not fleeing from NATO to the East either.

              So I wrote about it right away. The same can be said about Canada, Australia, Japan, South Korea, Mexico, India. "Don't Have One Hundred Rubles, but Have One Hundred Friends." The Russian Federation has 600 billion gold reserves, but no Friends. 600 billion good money to pay reparations at the end of the war.
              1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                gunnerminer (gunner miner) 8 January 2022 12: 33
                -5
                Gold reserves do not bring any benefit to the Russian economy. Russia does not even have normal travel companions.
  2. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 3 January 2022 16: 50
    +1
    The fact is that the sea borders of Finland and Estonia are in contact and block the exit of the Russian Federation to the Baltic Sea.
    Therefore, after Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Finland join NATO, the Kaliningrad province of the Russian Federation may find itself in a land, sea and air blockade by NATO or an EU blockade through the presentation of economic, environmental and other different conditions to the Russian Federation by analogy with the northern streams.
    This is a pretext for war, unless, of course, the leadership of the Russian Federation bends or continues the veiled policy of trade in territory in relation to the Kaliningrad province, similar to the sale of farmland for a long-term "lease" to Uzbekistan and the "free trade" zone on the three disputed Kuril Islands.
    With the presence of NATO military bases in the Baltic state formations, and after joining NATO and Finland, it does not change anything for the Russian Federation - the flight time is the same, either from Tallinn or Riga, or from Helsinki, but it increases the RF need for medium-range missiles and the load on the economy.
    1. tagil Offline tagil
      tagil (Sergei) 3 January 2022 17: 01
      0
      I have already asked you once where these boundaries meet, but I have not received an answer. We have that, the Baltic Sea is so narrow (territorial waters start from 3 nautical miles, if anything), or is it a puddle?
    2. Dear sofa expert. 3 January 2022 17: 56
      0
      The fact is that the sea borders of Finland and Estonia are in contact and block the exit of the Russian Federation to the Baltic Sea.

      That's not true.

      There, in the narrowest place, about 60 km. Using the 12 mile zone, there is still a corridor of about 15-16 kilometers of neutral waters between the borders of Estonia and Finland. Therefore, based on the provisions of the 1982 Convention on the Law of the Sea, this strait is not an inland strait of Finland and Estonia.
    3. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 3 January 2022 19: 15
      -6
      but it increases the RF's need for medium-range missiles and the burden on the economy.

      Yes, missiles in the Russian Armed Forces are tense. Especially with aircraft missiles. They are expensive. The productivity of suppliers is not as high as we would like.
      1. alexey alexeyev_2 (Alexey Alekseev) 3 January 2022 19: 28
        -1
        Why do we need aviation missiles?
        1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
          gunnerminer (gunner miner) 3 January 2022 21: 40
          -7
          The most important striking force is from the air. And the factory about which you are hinting can barely cope with the minimum tasks. Since 2018, regardless of the heads of the bosses. Direct and immediate.
    4. 1_2 Offline 1_2
      1_2 (Ducks are flying) 4 January 2022 00: 55
      0
      there will be no blockade, otherwise Lithuania will become a Russian subject, together with the Republic of Belarus
      1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 4 January 2022 10: 26
        -4
        Dagestan did not really become a subject. Despite all the expenses and measures. What kind of Lithuania is there!
  3. 1_2 Offline 1_2
    1_2 (Ducks are flying) 4 January 2022 00: 53
    -1
    having nuclear Iskander Daggers, you can quickly destroy the Finnish Papuans, but they must be warned that dying for the United States is stupid
    1. so we will convince - after the atomic bombing they will become quiet, as the dead are typical!
    2. zenion Offline zenion
      zenion (zinovy) 6 January 2022 17: 45
      0
      So why did the natives eat Cook? Aren't you scared? Science is silent, isn't it?
  4. boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 4 January 2022 02: 38
    +2
    Well, what a blockade? Which NATO?
    The Finnish economy will go down instantly. Gas is from Russia. Electricity is from Russia. Coal from the same place. Raw materials for the woodworking industry have been ours since the times of the USSR. Even with the latest restrictive measures for the export of timber, they were spared. But it won't take long to fix it.
    As soon as it comes close to joining NATO, the most favored nation regime, in which dates have flourished for more than 70 years past, will drain into the toilet.
    As for gas, in Finland itself there is not only gas of its own, but also of its own UGS facilities. The nearest UGS facility in Latvia. But if gas is also cut off there (to Latvia), then Finland will not receive a single cubic meter of gas and will be left without gas just instantly.
    The same applies to grain and fertilizers, which in general in the world are turning into strategic weapons.
    Accordingly, the pricing policy will change.
    They will die of hunger and cold. Putin has ceased to stand on ceremony.
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 4 January 2022 10: 27
      -3
      They calmed the alarmists. laughing
    2. As for the forest - export must be banned right now - like punishment for a rotten bazaar! Anyway, why the hell are we going to sell our most valuable resource to our enemies?
    3. baltika3 Offline baltika3
      baltika3 (baltika3) 5 January 2022 22: 35
      -2
      No one will die of hunger there, do not dream. They do not depend much on Russian gas or electricity - they are not fools, they know who they are dealing with (see the energy balance chart). Their economy has never seriously depended on the USSR and (even more so) on Russia, this is a myth. They depended on the right brains and on the correct political system. And from being embedded in the common Western market.

      1. boriz Offline boriz
        boriz (boriz) 5 January 2022 23: 26
        +1
        You are a dishonest person. They threw some kind of wretched, non-speaking picture and are happy.
        What's in this picture? Energy production? Consumption? Export? Where is the accounting of imports from Russia?
        Tupnyak.
        https://mybiblioteka.su/tom2/1-35268.html

        Finland's fuel and energy resources are very insignificant. Local energy sources are timber, water resources and peat. In this regard, the country is largely dependent on imports of energy resources (oil, gas, coal, nuclear fuel).

        Imported energy sources account for over 67% of the total energy balance, while oil and oil products account for about 37% of energy imports. The main supplier of this type of energy resources is the Russian Federation, which annually supplies the Finnish market with about 11 million tons of crude oil and petroleum products.

        And here is a piece of the economy and employment.

        About half (48%) of the goods produced by the chemical industry are petrochemicals, the distribution by other groups of goods is as follows: chemicals and fertilizers - 20%, plastic products - 13%, pharmaceutical products - 8%, industrial rubber goods - 3%, varnishes and paints - 3%, cosmetics and detergents - 1%, other goods - 4%.

        Guess where the raw material for the chemical comes from. industry? Without oil and gas, all this will stop.
        Do not disgrace.
        1. baltika3 Offline baltika3
          baltika3 (baltika3) 6 January 2022 00: 02
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          The smartest thing about your evil agitation is that the Finns will die ("die") from hunger and cold, as soon as Putin turns off the valve. It is not necessary to refute this nonsense taken from the ceiling using an array of stat. data. It is enough that Finland produces a significant part of energy at nuclear power plants and hydroelectric power plants, petrochemicals are far from their entire economy, and not only Russia has oil and gas in the world. Yes, also grain and fertilizers - it must be, what irreplaceable resources, only the Russians were able to master. And honey and hemp, sable skins? That's it, the end of the poor Finns.
          If tomorrow morning Putin blocks everything and everyone, by the end of the week only the Russian economy will fall. Not really, of course - there will be something left for the groats on the cards.
          1. boriz Offline boriz
            boriz (boriz) 6 January 2022 00: 10
            0
            Pointless verbal diarrhea.
      2. Vladest Offline Vladest
        Vladest (Vladimir) 8 January 2022 12: 33
        -1
        RF is about 2% of World GDP. If we also consider that their GDP is not a modern industry, then the impact on the world is corresponding. The sale of raw materials and energy resources is what the Russian Federation is rich in. And they cannot stop the sale. This means stopping production and losing income.
  5. Igor Berg Offline Igor Berg
    Igor Berg (Igor Berg) 4 January 2022 07: 33
    +2
    Thus, Finland's entry into the North Atlantic Alliance is highly undesirable for Russia, and this event must be avoided by all possible means.

    So, since 2014, the Russian Federation has been doing just that so that most of its neighbors join NATO.
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 4 January 2022 10: 34
      -4
      The threat of the deployment of missile weapons on Finnish territory will increase. American strike missile systems already exist on European territory. These are multiple launch rocket systems with the functions of the M270 MLRS and M142 HIMARS operational-tactical complexes belonging to the missile forces and artillery of the ground forces. The total number of these funds, according to various sources, is about several dozen. lifting and technical nasmenny structure.
  6. Potapov Offline Potapov
    Potapov (Valery) 4 January 2022 11: 02
    0
    We'll have to exchange some more landmarks ... ... Here's the itching, defeat from the Union itches, I want to put a finger in the eye ... Turn on the dirty girl's brains ...
    1. after the atomic bombing, we disinfect the whole chukhland with Buratins and re-populate it in a hundred years!
  7. The atomic bombing of Chukhlandia will eliminate all problems, so there is no need to flap your wings!
  8. Jora bayramow Offline Jora bayramow
    Jora bayramow (Jora Bayramow) 4 January 2022 15: 33
    0
    I do not know what the leaders are guided by when making such decisions. But it seems to me that all small states need to take neutral positions on the issue of security. Because in the event of a military conflict between the superpowers, they will not only lose their statehood, but also their nation. This is just my personal opinion and I do not impose it on anyone. At the same time, they need to develop economic cooperation with all states.
  9. isv000 Offline isv000
    isv000 4 January 2022 17: 35
    -1
    How Russia is threatened by Finland's joining the North Atlantic Alliance

    The accession of dates to the alliance will bring Russia a headache - how to develop new lands and how to occupy the newly arrived population ...
  10. Dust Offline Dust
    Dust (Sergei) 4 January 2022 19: 06
    0
    If Finland goes to NATO, Russia must terminate the lease agreement for the use of the navigable canal connecting the Finnish lakes with the Baltic Sea on Russian territory. Stop providing Finnish business with the largest regime of benefits in Russia. Eliminate free trade in border areas with Finland. ...
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 4 January 2022 20: 40
      -4
      The Finns pay a lot for the maintenance of the navigation system in order to the Russian side. The Russian authorities will not dare to take such a step. The trade is almost stopped anyway. The Russian government imposed sanctions on the Yezdun shuttles even before the covid.
      1. let them ride the reindeer on dry land!
    2. Navigator Offline Navigator
      Navigator (Andrei) 4 January 2022 21: 01
      0
      from the elimination of trade in the border areas, the Russians will first of all suffer, and the Finns will only break off with cheap vodka
    3. forbid to export the forest!
  11. Navigator Offline Navigator
    Navigator (Andrei) 4 January 2022 20: 56
    +1
    Quote: 1_2
    having nuclear Iskander Daggers, you can quickly destroy the Finnish Papuans, but they must be warned that dying for the United States is stupid

    Using this weapon, we will destroy not only the Finns, but the entire planet. And, judging by your comment, you are much closer to the Papuans than the Finnish people.
    1. And why do we need this planet without Russia? So we will burn you for sure
  12. Mantrid Machina Offline Mantrid Machina
    Mantrid Machina (Mantrid Machina) 4 January 2022 23: 28
    0
    These western Chukchi, if they grumble a lot, will switch back to deer with dogs like 500 years ago. For cars will be very expensive to refuel. And I would also raise the price of alcohol for dates. Sell ​​strictly according to the passport Date? - Pay for the bubble like in Norway ... Or not, just take tax from them at the border for the export of alcohol wassat
    1. Quote: Mantrid Machina
      take tax from them at the border for the export of alcohol

      Do not skip with a bottle at all!
  13. Mikhail L. Offline Mikhail L.
    Mikhail L. 5 January 2022 13: 09
    0
    should this event be avoided in every possible way?

    The Russian Federation does not have the ability to prevent Finland from joining NATO!
  14. Vladest Offline Vladest
    Vladest (Vladimir) 7 January 2022 23: 06
    -1
    Is it obligatory to join NATO to be with him?
  15. Vladest Offline Vladest
    Vladest (Vladimir) 8 January 2022 12: 43
    -2
    Whatever such problems arise, one must be a good neighbor. Order in the world is determined by the majority, well, as at a meeting in housing and communal services.