The Pentagon left an aircraft carrier strike group in the Mediterranean for the sake of the Ukrainians


According to representatives of the Pentagon, because of the danger of a "Russian attack" on Ukraine, the United States decided to leave an aircraft carrier group in the Mediterranean Sea. The order was given by the head of the US military department Lloyd Austin, AP News reports.


Washington will have at its disposal a strike group led by the aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman, which includes five escort and support ships: the destroyers USS Cole, USS Bainbridge, USS Gravely and USS Jason Dunham, as well as the cruiser USS San Jacinto. In addition, the Norwegian frigate HNoMS Fridtjof Nansen will be stationed in close proximity to the US flotilla.

Previously, it was supposed to send an aircraft carrier group to the Middle East region, but due to the "need for a permanent presence in Europe" and the situation around Ukraine, NATO ships remain in the Mediterranean.

Earlier, Ukrainian Ambassador to the United States Oksana Makarova noted that Kiev and Washington are working on a joint action plan in case of an armed attack by Russia against Ukraine. According to her, "Plan B" provides for effective assistance to Ukraine, including the dispatch of lethal weapons to the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Makarova believes that the West will in every possible way contribute to the development of defense and economic opportunities of the Ukrainian state.
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  1. sH, arK Offline sH, arK
    sH, arK 30 December 2021 12: 26
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    I wonder what is the point in this props ?! What can the AUG in the Mediterranean do against Russia in the Black ?! NATO has air bases in Bulgaria and Romania, each of which is several times superior in capabilities to several AUG;) Not a single plane from Mediterranean taking off from AUG can pose a serious threat to the Black Sea Fleet, but AUG becomes an excellent and accessible target. Some kind of journalistic nonsense ...
    1. Teaser Offline Teaser
      Teaser (Vasiliy) 30 December 2021 13: 11
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      In fact, a wing is based on each aircraft carrier - about a hundred multipurpose fighters, plus 5 Hawkeye AWACS aircraft. A significant part of them can relocate within a few hours to airfields in Bulgaria and Romania, and work from there on targets in Ukraine.

      but AUG becomes an excellent and accessible target

      AUG is an extremely inaccessible target due to the Aegis air defense system.
      1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
        Marzhecki (Sergei) 30 December 2021 14: 03
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        Finally, rare adequate comments about the capabilities of the AUG.
        1. sH, arK Offline sH, arK
          sH, arK 30 December 2021 20: 25
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          Well, yes, the Internet was carried out in a madhouse;) No Aegis will keep the attack of 30-40 anti-ship missiles. And this is the minimum shock front. You would have learned to think sensibly. There are 14 bands in Crimea. And let's add the Krasnodar Territory. The only advantage of the AUG over the stationary strip is the uncertainty of the position, in other words, constant target designation is required. But when based in the Mediterranean Sea, I'm not talking about the Black Sea, it is foolish to count on such luck, target designation is a minimal problem. Keeping multiple launches in different echelons of supersonic anti-ship missiles is impossible. Yes, shooting down 2-3 missiles is real, although there are a lot of examples here, including very recent ones;) It is much more difficult to shoot down 20-30 missiles out of 40, but let's say luck smiled here too, although for Onyx, Kh-22/32 , Granite needs several intercept missiles. But 10 break through and hit will cause enormous damage. And there will be neither one nor two shock waves ... No chances! In the ocean - another question, where target designation is more difficult, and the BRAV will not reach from the shore, and only Tu-22M will fly, the fighters there will not support the strike ...
          And support for the AUG from the coast of Bulgaria or Romania, Greece is already a direct military operation provoking a direct strike on these countries. And how to fend off it ?! And if TNW is used? Russia's superiority in which is multiple over all NATO and other countries combined ?! Than who will be responsible?

          That is why - AUG has no chances from the word at all! This is not to hammer Libya in Africa! Even Iraq was 90% broken from the usual strips of neighboring states. And with Russia, this option will not work at all;) Therefore, Ukrainians said at once - "the lads themselves, themselves"!

          RS: and yes, Aegis is not an air defense system! ;)
      2. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 30 December 2021 14: 53
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        It is safer to fly from Turkish airfields; it is only doubtful that the Turks will provide them for the AMC's air wings, at least at the initial stage of hostilities.
      3. passing by Offline passing by
        passing by (passing by) 30 December 2021 15: 49
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        moot point laughing

        Now that you know everything described above, imagine the situation. An aircraft carrier covered by an escort of Aegis ships was attacked by a star-shaped salvo of supersonic anti-ship missiles, well, 50 pieces if at a minimum .. We will not take the newest hypersonic anti-ship missiles from humanity.

        In the air there are four carrier-based fighters on duty and a pair of AWACS. This means using long-range SM-6s with an active homing head is very dumb - they can be transferred to their aircraft. The fighters each start firing their own missiles. The number of targets in the air triples. Aegis ships produce a pair of SM-2s for each anti-ship missile and also an ESSM just in case. There are already several hundred objects in the air, maneuvering at different speeds, chasing each other in all directions. It is impossible to figure it out manually, but there is no trust in the automation. Some missiles from fighters, of course, will be redirected to their own SM. Some ships will try to shoot down their own Amraams. Each hit will spawn a bunch of debris in the air, filling up the radar screens and giving up a bunch of decoys. The phalanxes generally fire at everything indiscriminately. And anti-ship missiles also use electronic warfare means, creating false reflections. So the number of marks on the radar can go off scale and beyond 1000. Nobody can figure it out in this chaos, not even the devil himself.
        A mass raid is a nightmare for any air defense system, it is not even practiced during exercises .. Because how it will end - no one even at the training ground knows. All this automatic and semi-automatic technology, even in ideal greenhouse conditions, constantly leads to epic observers, failures and human errors, and what can we say about a real battle with its nerve and fog of war.

        This is why there is no evidence that Aegis can provide guaranteed protection against a massive missile attack.
      4. Old Skeptic Offline Old Skeptic
        Old Skeptic (Old Skeptic) 30 December 2021 18: 23
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        In fact, a wing is based on each aircraft carrier - about a hundred multipurpose fighters, plus 5 Hawkeye AWACS aircraft. A significant part of them can relocate within a few hours to airfields in Bulgaria and Romania, and work from there on targets in Ukraine.

        What nonsense are you writing.
        1. A hundred is not even in ideal conditions, but in sports-record, and in real combat conditions, much less.
        2. To drag the AUG into the middle of the castle to transfer the air group to the shore is complete nonsense, like nails and a microscope.
        Just imagine: the trough is dangling in the sea and its birds are working from the shore. Hockey castrato versus Boeing.
        There are no birds of their own on the shore, what a grief! I'm not talking about the cost of this venture.
        I understand that Pan Marzhetski consistently drowns behind the AUG, but here you have to think with your head.
      5. sH, arK Offline sH, arK
        sH, arK 30 December 2021 20: 33
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        Aegis is not an air defense system! ..
    2. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 30 December 2021 14: 52
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      They will be able to carry out raids from the northern part of the Aegean Sea. BRAV KChF cannot fire guided munitions further than 40 miles. And even to targets in the Mediterranean Sea, all the more so. There is still no modern Russian anti-ship missile system. Ular missile-carrying naval aviation is already 10 years old. as no. Intelligence too. SKTS Liana is not in service.
      1. sH, arK Offline sH, arK
        sH, arK 30 December 2021 20: 40
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        What Liana is in the Mediterranean ?! Are you sane? What anti-ship missiles does the Black Sea Fleet have? Granite, Onyx, X-22/32, Dagger? I'm not talking about Caliber and all kinds of X-35, this is after the breakthrough for finishing off ... There have been hundreds of missiles in the Crimea for a long time.
        1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
          gunnerminer (gunner miner) 30 December 2021 21: 35
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          The Russian Aerospace Forces does not have a modern aviation anti-ship missile system. Tales about the X-32 for simpletons. Liana is not only over the Mediterranean Sea.

          There have been hundreds of rockets in Crimea for a long time

          Exploration in Crimea has huge development reserves. Politically correct speaking. Without its capabilities, even tens of thousands of missiles are useless.
          1. sH, arK Offline sH, arK
            sH, arK 30 December 2021 22: 37
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            Liana - not needed for the theater of operations in the Mediterranean. Although 6 satellites are already in orbit. Full functionality - with 5 satellites. Extended - 7 KA. What nonsense are you talking about ?! The Kh-32 has been in service for 5 years. So is the Dagger. Have you already forgotten how to read and count in Khokhlostan?
            1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
              gunnerminer (gunner miner) 30 December 2021 23: 04
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              SKTs Liana is a secondary reconnaissance tool, not readily available. The more intelligence sources, the higher the reliability of the information. The most effective reconnaissance, aviation, Russia is deprived of in this naval theater. And other forces and means of reconnaissance, minuscule, even by the standards of wartime. Until 1991, the crews of merchant ships of the USSR supplied a considerable amount of information. And now the merchant fleet is tiny, the ships are tiny, and the companies are private. And additional duties will not be borne free of charge.
              1. sH, arK Offline sH, arK
                sH, arK 31 December 2021 02: 04
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                Your head is not ready;) Liana has been working in working mode since 2014. This provides detection and guidance to non-radiating targets (Pion spacecraft). Since 2021, the system is expanded by 2 active spacecraft and provides guidance to anti-ship missiles ... to ground targets !!

                I understand, it hurts ... But bear with it, maybe you still have to experience it yourself ... although of course no one will spend expensive missiles on you personally, calm down ... They will deal with you in a working order;)
                1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                  gunnerminer (gunner miner) 31 December 2021 11: 00
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                  SKTs Liana is not capable of fighting. Since 2009, one Liana-S (14F138) with an incomplete set of standard equipment has been hanging, which at first generally worked through a stump-deck, and one Liana (14F145) since December 2014. There are plans to launch at least 3- x, although it is not known when.
                  Pion NKS (14F139) was launched only this year. When the second - nobody knows. So there is still a long way to go to a workable constellation of 36 satellites. By the time the second Pion is launched, "Lotos-S" will have to be changed. Until the SKTs is ready for combat, it’s like on a donkey to the Moon. The Aerospace Forces cannot launch all regular satellites for even a couple of years. Not a hat for Senka. Mr. Lavrov in an article in the newspaper Izvestia writes about this failure.

                  https://iz.ru/1133265/anton-lavrov/dotianulas-do-kosmosa-zavershaetsia-sozdanie-sistemy-razvedki-liana

                  Read carefully.
                  Work on it has been going on since the 90s - even then everyone understood that the critical shortcomings of the Legend would not allow it to be effectively dealt with in the most severe economic situation in the country.
                  In addition to Liana herself, hundreds of communication satellites are required. In connection with this, Shoigu constantly
                  hears the leadership of the Lianas of the capital's JSC Central Scientific Research Radiotechnical Institute named after Academician A.I. Berg "(Moscow) and JSC" Design Bureau "Arsenal" named after M.V. Frunze ", based in St. Petersburg.
    3. passing by Offline passing by
      passing by (passing by) 30 December 2021 15: 53
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      the same as in georgia ... to stimulate races in baboons. there will be no real help anyway.
  2. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 30 December 2021 13: 44
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    According to her, "Plan B" provides for effective assistance to Ukraine, including the dispatch of lethal weapons to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    Will they send an aircraft carrier to Ukraine as a lethal weapon? So it will be sold in an instant!
  3. Teaser Offline Teaser
    Teaser (Vasiliy) 30 December 2021 15: 51
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    Quote: passing by
    .......................
    This is why there is no evidence that Aegis can provide guaranteed protection against a massive missile attack.

    Where can I get it SO massive ?? laughing No.
  4. Teaser Offline Teaser
    Teaser (Vasiliy) 30 December 2021 21: 42
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    Quote: sH, arK
    Well, yes, the Internet was carried out in a madhouse;) No Aegis will keep the attack of 30-40 anti-ship missiles. And this is the minimum shock front. You would have learned to think sensibly.

    The anti-ship missiles are ordered to shoot down air-to-air missiles from aircraft carrier fighters (there is a whole wing of them, in Russian - a division), "Nimitz":
    Deck-based aircraft wing (66 units): 48 F / A-18 Hornet multipurpose fighter-bombers, 4 EA-6B Prowler electronic warfare aircraft, 4 Grumman E-2 Hawkeye AWACS aircraft, 2 C-2 Greyhound transport aircraft, 8 Sikorsky SH anti-submarine helicopters -60 Seahawk.


    Keeping multiple launches in different echelons of supersonic anti-ship missiles is impossible. Yes, shooting down 2-3 missiles is real, although there are a lot of examples here, including very recent ones;) It is much more difficult to shoot down 20-30 missiles out of 40, but let's say luck smiled here too, although for Onyx, Kh-22/32 , Granite needs several intercept missiles. But 10 break through and hit will cause enormous damage. And there will be neither one nor two shock waves ... No chances!

    See above - their first shoot down east-re-bi-te-li. Then - SAM SAM "Aegis".

    And if TNW is used? Russia's superiority in which is multiple over all NATO and other countries combined ?! Than who will be responsible?

    - Together with the USA? wink tongue

    That is why - AUG has no chances from the word at all!

    See above.

    RS: and yes, Aegis is not an air defense system! ;)

    Be literate! laughing
    https://warfor.me/boevaya-sistema-idzhis/
    Advanced system

    The core of the Aegis multifunctional system is eponymous anti-aircraft missile system... (read further the article to the fullest enlightenment! fool am )
  5. Teaser Offline Teaser
    Teaser (Vasiliy) 30 December 2021 21: 47
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    Quote: sH, arK
    Aegis is not an air defense system! ..

    https://warfor.me/boevaya-sistema-idzhis/
    "Study, study and study again!" - as the great Lenin bequeathed! laughing
  6. Siluch Offline Siluch
    Siluch (nik) 3 January 2022 06: 23
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    Well, that's it, right now the generals from Banderastan, mad with happiness, finally believing that they are "all peace", will climb to conquer Donbass (they have a whole AUG in their pocket). And it seems that there was already this rake, but itching to do it. Damn, Banderastan is ready to cut its own ... into nickels, just to please the United States.