Could Iran replace Indonesia in Russian Su-35 deal

One of the most unpleasant News the last few days is that the contract for the supply of Russian fighters of the 4 ++ Su-35 generation to Indonesia was thwarted. For several years Moscow tried to persuade Jakarta by making unheard-of concessions, but the deal never materialized under strong pressure from Washington. Indonesia was far from the first in the list of countries to renounce Russian weapons for purely political reasons. Does the domestic military-industrial complex have a future in foreign markets, and where, instead of the southern archipelago, can our Su-35 fly?

First, a few words must be said about the plane itself. This is a multipurpose super-maneuverable fighter with a controlled thrust vector, equipped with two AL-41F-1S turbojet engines. It occupies a transitional niche between the Su-27 and the promising fifth-generation fighter Su-57. Today it is the main tactical-level combat vehicle in the Russian Aerospace Forces along with the Su-30. In Russian aviation, the aircraft is indexed Su-35S. How did he interest Indonesia?

Price-quality ratio, since domestic technique, as a rule, costs the buyer less than an American or European one, but with comparable tactical and technical characteristics. Beijing, Cairo and Jakarta have already expressed their desire to acquire the fighter. With the Chinese, everything has been clear for a long time: first they will disassemble it to a screw, then reassemble it and do something very similar. Poorer and less technically advanced Indonesia can only dream of such a thing. The purchase of a Su-35 link was a good deal for the island state, especially since Moscow even agreed to take part of the amount “in kind” - with palm oil, apparently so that the “milk rivers” in Russian stores did not dry out. It may not be so bad that the deal fell through. This is on the basis of black humor, of course.

In fact, the United States prevented the domestic military-industrial complex from gaining a new sales market. It is reported that Washington has threatened Jakarta with problems in accessing its products to the American market. For a poor country, this turned out to be an unacceptable loss, and the choice was not made in our favor. Under the pretext of a "budget deficit", Indonesia abandoned the Su-35 in favor of French and American fighters. This was stated by the Chief of Staff of the Indonesian Air Force, Air Chief Marshal Fajar Praseto:

As I said at the very beginning, the development of aviation really depends on the budget, and if it does not allow, then we will not continue these negotiations, now our goal is Rafale.

At the moment, it is known that, in addition to the French Rafale, Jakarta may acquire the American F-15EX Eagle II. It is not known when Western-made fighters became "more budgetary" than Russian ones, but the trend, as they say, is alarming. Earlier, for the purchase of the Su-35 and the S-400 air defense system, China fell under US sanctions. Also, Washington persistently discouraged Egypt from purchasing these fighters, expressing "concern". Under pressure from the White House, Kuwait and the Philippines have already abandoned the purchase of Russian weapons. An attempt to put pressure on the abandonment of the S-400 air defense system also turned out to be on India. Turkey was excluded from the American F-35 program due to the acquisition of "Favorites".

As you can see, the circle of potential clients of the domestic military-industrial complex is gradually narrowing. Only big players like China or India, as well as Turkey with its neo-Ottoman ambition, can afford to stand their ground. The rest have to abandon the purchase in order to avoid big trouble. So to whom can Russia sell the Su-35 instead of Indonesia? Who can compensate for the loss of some important export markets? The answer suggests itself.

Iran. This country is conducting an independent external policies and will not respond to shouts and threats from Washington. Rather, the opposite is true.

Tehran is in dire need of updating its air force, which is made up of motley outdated aircraft models, in order to be able to effectively counter Israeli and American aircraft. Modern fighters are needed for air cover for the actions of the Iranian military and their "proxies" in Syria, as well as for protecting the borders of the Islamic Republic itself from the so-called "preemptive strike" of the IDF on its nuclear facilities.

Recall that for many years Iran was subject to a regime of international sanctions for the sale of modern weapons to it. However, the embargo has already ended on October 18, 2020. According to the Iranian Tasnim News Agency, citing its own sources, Tehran is showing increased interest in Russian Su-30, Su-35 and MiG-35 aircraft, as well as Mi-28N and K-52 helicopters. The Persians are especially interested in the fifth generation Su-57 fighters. With the latter, Tehran, of course, will have to wait, but the Su-35 and Su-30 could well be sold.

The Israeli Air Force will not feel so at ease in the skies over Syria if super-maneuverable Su-35 fighters with Iranian pilots operate there. In this matter, the interests of Russia and the Islamic Republic coincide. Iran is a large, rich market for Russian weapons that will not be in awe of US disaffection.
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  1. zzdimk Offline zzdimk
    zzdimk 27 December 2021 15: 32
    And what prevents to create a "club of aviation fans"?
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 27 December 2021 18: 28
      Combat regulations of the Aerospace Forces.
  2. Rusa Offline Rusa
    Rusa 27 December 2021 16: 16
    Iran is a strategic partner of the Russian Federation and an ally in Syria.
    Consequently, Moscow can sell modern weapons there, including the S-400 air defense system and Su-35 aircraft.
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 27 December 2021 18: 25
      A partner, not an ally, pursuing his own goals, which do not coincide with the goals of the Russian Foreign Ministry. Iran has nothing to pay for Russian aircraft, and there will be additional sanctions, even Russia, for such a trade.
      1. Dukhskrepny Offline Dukhskrepny
        Dukhskrepny (Vasya) 31 December 2021 13: 34
        Iran has a lot of oil. She is always in trend. Iran is an ally, not a cunning one .... a fellow traveler like Israel
        1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
          gunnerminer (gunner miner) 31 December 2021 14: 07
          There are no formal allied relations between Iran and Russia. On the Syrian bridgehead, and in Central Asia, everyone pursues their own goals. There is a lot of oil, little modern weapons and technologies. Especially bad with the aviation and navy.
  3. S WITH Offline S WITH
    S WITH (N S) 27 December 2021 18: 02
    su35 was created for fighting with f22, for destroying f22, if the Iranians (Egyptians, North Koreans) buy it, and no one doubts this (even the Jews), they will shoot down f35 and rafali like sabers and phantoms shot down Li sitsyns in Vietnam))
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 27 December 2021 18: 28
      They were sold mountains of Soviet-made fighters in the 60s and 70s, which did not affect their readiness to fight the crews of Hel Hawir. For those fighters the USSR did not receive a penny. And they cost fabulous money.
      1. Dukhskrepny Offline Dukhskrepny
        Dukhskrepny (Vasya) 31 December 2021 13: 35
        The USSR did not supply weapons to Iran in the 60-70s. Only in the early 90s and supplies were thwarted by the United States and the drunk Eltsin.
        1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
          gunnerminer (gunner miner) 31 December 2021 14: 16
          There is an opinion that the Iranian Armed Forces were mainly armed with American and British equipment. But even during the reign of the Shah, there was a small number of T-55s. The ground forces operated BMP-1, BTR-152, BTR-50PK, BTR-60PB.
          For air defense, self-propelled anti-aircraft guns were used - ZSU-57-2 and ZSU-23-4. From artillery - multiple launch rocket systems BM-21 Grad, towed guns and howitzers M-46, D-30 and D-20.
          Active military-technical cooperation between the USSR and Iran took place in 1990. According to various sources, in 1990 the USSR supplied Iran with arms and military equipment worth from $ 733 million to $ 890 million.

          In 1990, Iran received 14 MiG-29 aircraft. The peak of deliveries of aircraft came in 1991, when 12 front-line Su-24 bombers and 20 MiG-29 / MiG-29UB fighters were delivered. Iran received six more MiG-29 / MiG29UB in 1993-1994 from Russia. In 1990-1991, the R-29R (27 units) and R-350 (60 units) aircraft missiles were supplied to arm the MiG-576. Another 94 R-27R missiles for the MiG-29 were received by Iran from Russia in 1994.
          In the 1990s, Russia supplied Iran with three Project 877EKM diesel-electric submarines (DEPL) for a total of $ 750 million.
  4. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
    gunnerminer (gunner miner) 27 December 2021 18: 24
    The Israeli Air Force will not feel so at ease in the skies over Syria if super-maneuverable Su-35 fighters with Iranian pilots operate there.

    The highest training of the Iranian flight crew is doubtful. Their comrades-in-arms from the IRGC, Basij, Fatimyun, as well as Hezbollons, were successfully and massively beaten by the gangs of Daesh. About 12 Iranian generals were killed! That is, the Iranian units could not even ensure the personal safety of their senior officers. The case of beating the Iranian and pro-Iranian formations diminished with the arrival of Russian aviators, artillerymen, and ichtamnets on the bridgehead.
    Su-35S plane of yesterday due to lack of stealth, radar with AFAR, helmet with all-round visibility, and other things. About super-maneuverability. A contrived property. The crew of an attacking fighter uses two missiles in a sequential salvo. To hit the target that completes the maneuver. You can spin aerobatics at an air show. These figures are not included in the course of combat training of cadets and combat pilots. Otherwise, the percentage of trainees' losses will be unacceptable. A trained pilot will withstand a maximum of one and a half minutes of such overloads.
  5. Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 28 December 2021 21: 15
    To whom the Internet media did not promise to sell SU, but only ordinary partners buy it.
    So they can’t afford Iran and they won’t help. They have neither the logistics for them nor the skills.

    So just a small batch, for show.
    Now, if you drop the price of a MIG, you can become the first buyer ...
    1. Teaser Offline Teaser
      Teaser (Vasiliy) 29 December 2021 13: 45
      So they can’t afford Iran and they won’t help. They have neither the logistics for them nor the skills.

      There will be money for a holy cause. And the skills that American fighters have in operation are not the simplest ones?
      1. Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 29 December 2021 22: 57
        Yes, like old stuff from the 80s. And they are forced to conserve the resource, not to fly too much, they wrote.
        1. Teaser Offline Teaser
          Teaser (Vasiliy) 29 December 2021 22: 59
          The F-14A is a very serious and very difficult aircraft. Whoever has mastered it will calmly master any Su-.
          1. Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 29 December 2021 23: 17
            All of them are complicated, that's why they are airplanes ... Even what Iran itself does one piece.
            but ...

            The first plane arrived in Iran in January 1976 .......
            1. Teaser Offline Teaser
              Teaser (Vasiliy) 29 December 2021 23: 19
              The first plane arrived in Iran in January 1976 .......

              And what follows from this?