Operation on the sea deblocking of Kaliningrad may turn into "Tsushima-2"


В продолжение темы about a possible naval blockade of the Kaliningrad region. Some of our readers treat such scenarios very lightly, sincerely believing that the Baltic Fleet of the Russian Federation, if something happens, will easily lift any blockade and then "trample the Balts into the Stone Age", for which the senior comrades in the NATO bloc for some reason will not "fit in." Unfortunately, things are not as simple as we would like.


Let's start our reasoning with the fact that the Baltic Sea is one of the worst potential theaters of military operations for Russia. It was not in vain that we called it "the inner sea of ​​the North Atlantic Alliance." Yes, we have a Baltic Fleet equipped with Caliber cruise missiles that can deliver powerful strikes against NATO countries. But in exactly the same way, the Kaliningrad region is under fire from the territory of neighboring Poland and the Baltic states. In the worst-case scenario, Russian warships may be sunk or seriously damaged right in the port by an unexpected strike, and not even an aviation or missile strike, but large-caliber artillery or long-range MLRS systems.

No mines?


The "window to Europe" cut by Peter the Great is located at the very mouth of the Gulf of Finland. To come to the rescue of the Russian fleet dying in Baltiysk, our warships from St. Petersburg will first have to leave through the long and narrow fairway of the Gulf of Finland, and then pass a total of almost 1000 kilometers past several hostile Baltic countries that are part of the NATO bloc. And it's not a fact that they will be able to keep up on time. First, Russian ships will have to bypass Estonia, and this one small but proud country can cause a lot of trouble.

In part, we have discussed the possibility of blocking the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation by the Ukrainian Navy by means of mine laying already concerned previously. In spite of the frankly overshadowing sentiments of the bulk of our readers, this is an absolute real and very serious problem. And it can become relevant in the Baltic Sea.

So, last summer, Tallinn bought a large pair of sea mines from Finland in order to strengthen the coastal defense, "allowing you to influence a potential enemy along the entire coastline of Estonia." Potential adversaries are Russia and our Baltic Fleet, if suddenly someone did not understand. The mere fact of mine laying in the fairway of the Gulf of Finland and along the Estonian coast is capable of disrupting the operation of the ships of the Baltic Fleet leaving St. Petersburg to help comrades in the Kaliningrad region.

Everything is very serious and absolutely realistic.

"Fire Corridor"


But let's imagine that our minesweepers have successfully coped with the task of clearing the fairway of the Gulf of Finland and, albeit with a long time delay, which may turn out to be critical, but still managed to move on. They will still have to pass by several NATO member countries. And the problems with naval mines, alas, do not end there.

All the same Estonia, whether it was wrong, ordered from our Israeli partners anti-ship missile systems with anti-ship cruise missiles (ASM) Blue Spear 5G SSM. The flight range of such anti-ship missiles is 290 kilometers, which theoretically allows them to finish off even as far as St. Petersburg. According to the Israeli development company, Blue Spear 5G is immune to electronic warfare. And against whom does Tallinn buy, I wonder, such anti-ship missiles? Guess three times!

At the same time, one must be aware that the Baltic Fleet, with all due respect to it, is no match for, for example, the Northern Fleet of the Russian Federation. Serious ships with an air defense system capable of intercepting such anti-ship missiles, there we have one or two and there are not enough.
To shoot down Israeli missiles will be the Project 11540 patrol ships Yaroslav the Wise and Fearless, equipped with the Dagger anti-aircraft missile system, and, probably, the Project 20380 Guarding corvette with the Kortik-M anti-aircraft artillery system. Perhaps that's all. That is, only two or three ships are capable of guaranteed to cope with a missile strike of coastal complexes from the territory of Estonia in the Baltic Fleet of the Russian Federation. That is, if nothing happens to them on the way in the mine setting. Note that the ammunition of anti-aircraft missiles for such a modest displacement of ships is very small, and there are still hundreds of kilometers ahead.

And these are the problems that only one small Estonia can bring to us only with the forces that it itself has! And there, on the way from St. Petersburg to Kaliningrad, there are two more Baltic countries, which the United States can also pump up with its weapons. And the really serious players from the NATO bloc did not even get into the matter!

Why is all this said? There is no need for frivolous profanation: the balance of power in the Baltic is far from in our favor. The naval blockade of Kaliningrad and the operation to unblock it can bring a lot of extremely unpleasant surprises, turning into Tsushima-2.
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  1. Teacher Offline Teacher
    Teacher (Wise) 25 December 2021 08: 13
    -2
    It's like that. The mistakes and weaknesses of the 2000s are hard to fix (impossible). Now it is only possible to raise the price for the West of the maintenance of the Baltic countries. It is necessary to expand (build) ports in the Baltic, the railway from Belarus to them. It is necessary to divert a branch to Kaliningrad from SP-2.
    Refuse from sprat and other goods completely. Trade turnover = 0.
    1. Avarron Offline Avarron
      Avarron (Sergei) 25 December 2021 08: 54
      +4
      The cost of keeping one of the tribalts is a couple of hundred kilograms of green-dyed cotton paper per year. Kapets as unaffordable for the owner of the printing house.
    2. sH, arK Offline sH, arK
      sH, arK 26 December 2021 10: 38
      +9
      Yes, this is what happens. At the same time, it is important not only to close the Russian transit, but also any other, for example, from Kazakhstan, Belarus, Uzbekistan, etc. Moreover, it is natural to close the transit in both directions, not to let the cargoes from Pro-Baltic to Russia or through Russia.

      And as for the next nonsense about breaking the naval blockade, then, of course, it is much faster and more efficient to ensure the land corridor, or rather the complete absence of NATO troops on the way to Kaliningrad. The naval base in Kaliningrad is needed primarily to provide protection against a strike from the sea, and not to project force onto a foreign shore or sea battles.
    3. aries2200 Offline aries2200
      aries2200 (aries) 26 December 2021 10: 56
      0
      railway road from Belarus to them is like? Kaliningrad region in the ring of NATO countries.
  2. Avarron Offline Avarron
    Avarron (Sergei) 25 December 2021 08: 52
    +23
    Aha, combat aviation in Russia is over and there are no missiles left, the ships in Kaliningrad are so lonely, they huddle and tremble at the piers.
  3. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
    Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 25 December 2021 08: 58
    -25
    Is entering the new year 2022 in Russia solved all the tasks and problems? With whom Russia has been preparing to fight for the last 10-20 years? Who is going to blockade Konigsberg? What are they going to fight, who will fight? Maybe enough with this Hysteria, they say everyone wants to tilt the Great Russia, is it really not visible, because Russia is tilted by its own “managers,” what damage to the economy, the country's authority, not only NATO does not cause even 10%!
    1. Avarron Offline Avarron
      Avarron (Sergei) 25 December 2021 09: 18
      +20
      He was Koenigsberg before the war, as a result of which he became Kaliningrad.
    2. Michele77 Offline Michele77
      Michele77 (Mikele77) 29 December 2021 00: 29
      0
      Why didn't you indicate "Inoagent" in your signature? Your Lebarasien slogans have not been used for a long time, let the geniuses come up with something new!
  4. Avarron Offline Avarron
    Avarron (Sergei) 25 December 2021 08: 59
    +24
    If such a movement begins as described by the author, one must think that everything that separates the Kaliningrad region from Russia will become Russia during the day.
    1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
      Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 25 December 2021 09: 11
      -24
      Well, very, bright, prospects! Do you think that in 2022 Russia has the opportunity to fight? Who is ready to defend the country, it is not possible that all these people who sit at the helm of the Russian Federation, those who have many millions of accounts in US and European banks , real estate, those whose relatives prefer to live in the decaying West? Do you believe in it?
      1. Avarron Offline Avarron
        Avarron (Sergei) 25 December 2021 09: 16
        +7
        War is always a division of resources, when a stronger godfather crushes the weaker one and imposes taxes. And why would the Russian godfathers, in whose hands the might, capable of crushing half the planet, bend over in front of the overseas overlord? If they understand that Uncle Sam wants to wipe their feet on them, and they have the ability to prevent this, why should they bend?
        1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
          Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 25 December 2021 09: 20
          -12
          Why would someone want to “wipe” their feet on Russia, each country must first of all respect its interests! Or do you think differently!
          1. Avarron Offline Avarron
            Avarron (Sergei) 25 December 2021 09: 24
            +13
            The interests of Russia were outlined quite voluminously by Putin at his conference. What is incomprehensible to you from it? All of Russia's concerns about the NATO movement near its borders are presented very clearly.
            So Russia is observing its interests.
            1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
              Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 25 December 2021 09: 30
              -26
              Do you think Putin is All Russia? If so, then I feel sorry for you! There is a good Russian proverb: A thin world is better than a good war! The most important task of the state and its government is - By any means to prevent actions Worsening, or those that could lead to such actions that could inflict Uranus to its citizens!
              1. Avarron Offline Avarron
                Avarron (Sergei) 25 December 2021 09: 32
                +9
                We'll inflict uranium on American citizens if they get it.
                1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
                  Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 25 December 2021 13: 15
                  -20
                  Or maybe uranium will fall on your site, on the head of yours and those of your loved ones? You are ready?
                2. Niolai Offline Niolai
                  Niolai (Nikolai) 25 December 2021 23: 54
                  -4
                  WE will apply, who are we? Something I doubt that people like you who will be brought in by some kind of citizens will be in the forefront of inflicting uranium (maybe a blow?), oh, I doubt it)))
              2. Dart2027 Online Dart2027
                Dart2027 25 December 2021 18: 13
                +11
                Quote: Alexander K_2
                A Thin World Better Than A Good War!

                “A thin world is better than a good quarrel”
                Learn Russian at your bot farms.
                1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
                  Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 25 December 2021 19: 48
                  -12
                  In 1937-1953 they already taught on bot farms! Forgotten already? The most interesting thing is that they also taught those who ,, supported ,,!
                  1. Dart2027 Online Dart2027
                    Dart2027 25 December 2021 20: 21
                    +4
                    Quote: Alexander K_2
                    already taught on bot farms! Forgotten already?

                    Only since then a lot of water has flowed under the bridge.
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              3. freedom.imieiem Offline freedom.imieiem
                freedom.imieiem 25 December 2021 21: 46
                +9
                The Russians really liked and fell in love with the expression of our Glavkom -: "Why do we need the World, if there is no Russia in it !!!"
              4. Rokot Offline Rokot
                Rokot (Alexey Kan) 26 December 2021 00: 04
                +5
                ... You had a choice between war and dishonor. You have chosen dishonor, now you will get a war.
          2. Avarron Offline Avarron
            Avarron (Sergei) 25 December 2021 09: 25
            +4
            And I did not talk about "wiping your feet on Russia." I talked about wiping the feet of a transatlantic godfather about Russian godfathers, who have no reason to endure it.
            1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
              Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 25 December 2021 09: 35
              -19
              So Russian godfathers will not tolerate, they will jump into business jets and quickly, dissolve, in the fog! Remember the children of Khrushchev
              1. freedom.imieiem Offline freedom.imieiem
                freedom.imieiem 25 December 2021 21: 53
                +6
                Don’t flatter yourself ... "Russian godfathers" have already understood how they will be "lowered" on numerous examples with Berezovsky and Deripaska, and so on. etc. ..... "Russian pakhany" realized that Russia is their feeder and it must be protected from overseas competitors, and let them talk about American democracy to the American man in the street ...
            2. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
              Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 25 December 2021 20: 25
              -11
              Who will ask you, uranium will need to be mined, plowmen are not adapted for this!
      2. tagil Offline tagil
        tagil (Sergei) 25 December 2021 10: 25
        +16
        Who is ready in Europe to fight with Russia for any interests, even their own? Name such countries to me! Name these mighty armed armies of Europe (the strongest army on the continent does not count, the Bandera bastard can only fight from the caches, and shout whatever he wants as long as it is allowed).
        1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
          Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 25 December 2021 19: 51
          -14
          I call: NATO countries! Are you ready to remember again after the war, the time when women and children plowed on their backs? Then go to war!
          1. freedom.imieiem Offline freedom.imieiem
            freedom.imieiem 25 December 2021 21: 56
            +6
            You won't have to fight with such corrupt ones as you - just disconnect the Internet cables going through the Atlantic and from Europe ...
            1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
              Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 25 December 2021 23: 56
              -9
              Is it possible to turn it off as soon as money is sent across the ocean to their loved ones from the Kremlin? Life is dear across the ocean, and the New Year is just around the corner;
          2. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
            Ulysses (Alexey) 25 December 2021 23: 51
            +3
            I call: NATO countries!

            Exclude the USA from these countries and there will be a feeble rabble of sheep without a guide.
            Tell me what the German General Staff can independently plan?
            (if she has this organ at all) smile
          3. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
            Sapsan136 (Alexander) 26 December 2021 19: 28
            +3
            Who exactly in the NATO countries wants to receive greetings from the Strategic Missile Forces of the Russian Federation trying to seize Kaliningrad ?! In your opinion, there are many who want to go to die on Russian bayonets?
      3. Michele77 Offline Michele77
        Michele77 (Mikele77) 29 December 2021 00: 38
        +1
        Why are you writing anachranisms here ?! This button accordion about accounts and children is already disgusted, in this many close compatriots believed about 5 years ago. Now it only causes a smile and sympathy, your instructions are outdated, your curators have forgotten or are tired
    2. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
      Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 25 December 2021 09: 23
      -26
      Really, there are such resources? Who is ready to fight, endure hardships, you are ready to sacrifice personally Your life, the well-being of Your loved ones?
      1. Avarron Offline Avarron
        Avarron (Sergei) 25 December 2021 09: 31
        +13
        As if someone would ask me. As if anyone would be asked at all. They will be summoned and sent to the right place. But I’m afraid that I don’t have to appeal to your and NATO’s displeasure, half of the country will volunteer, because this arrogant imposition of their inflated superiority by the states is in the throes of many.
        Russia is being told what to do. They are trying to squeeze Russia into some kind of framework. If Russia communicates with you politely and correctly, it is only because it wants it.
        If Russia is not heard, they are brushing it off, it will make it so that there will be nothing to brush it off and have to listen.
        1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
          Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 25 December 2021 09: 33
          -20
          And the children of those who will send out the summons will also receive them?
          1. Avarron Offline Avarron
            Avarron (Sergei) 25 December 2021 09: 37
            +15
            I understand your, dear foreign agent, demagoguery, and I inform you that I am tired of participating in it. I suggest you continue to fantasize in your own company.
            1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
              Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 25 December 2021 13: 13
              -18
              That is, let others fight, because this is the same position! Or try to risk your own wealth yourself?
          2. freedom.imieiem Offline freedom.imieiem
            freedom.imieiem 25 December 2021 21: 56
            -2
            You will not live up to those times ...
      2. tagil Offline tagil
        tagil (Sergei) 25 December 2021 10: 29
        +11
        Are you generally ready to sacrifice something, or wait until some negro knocks down the door of your apartment, and then you will ........
        1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
          Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 25 December 2021 13: 18
          -21
          The Negro will enter you tomorrow, are you ready to defend your home, or do you think your home will be protected by some mythical Russian Federation?
          1. tagil Offline tagil
            tagil (Sergei) 25 December 2021 13: 23
            +16
            А кто вам сказал, что я этого негра близко подпущу к своему дому. I have straps on the shoulders, whatever the blacks die on the approaches to my country (this is my duty as a military). And my country is not a mythical Russian Federation, that is clear.
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          2. freedom.imieiem Offline freedom.imieiem
            freedom.imieiem 25 December 2021 21: 59
            +3
            I, you, he, she, together the whole country ...

            ... Do not hesitate ... Roll up our sleeves and in full swing we will cut into the insolent hara of American imperialism in the person of the Rockefellers, Morgan, Dupont, etc.
            1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
              Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 25 December 2021 23: 42
              -10
              They have been trying for 200 years, it turns out poorly
          3. 9ander9 Offline 9ander9
            9ander9 (9ander9) 27 December 2021 05: 32
            +1
            Good, you see how smart you are here for dislikes.
  5. Nikolay Moroz Offline Nikolay Moroz
    Nikolay Moroz (Nikolay Moroz) 25 December 2021 09: 52
    +8
    Dear author..the impact in response will not be on the Dwarfs ... but straight across BRUSSELS ... Well, the VVP said so ... on the decision-making centers ... and all this will be filmed on tape from the ISS ... where Mr Borel and Stoltenberg are fleeing from of this shop, clinging to the wheels of a Mercedes.
    1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
      Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 25 December 2021 13: 22
      -19
      Well, the ISS will protect you, you just have to wait a little! And the ISS will take off somewhere around 2028, the President of the Russian Federation said so! There are only 6-7 years left - wait!
  6. Nikolay Moroz Offline Nikolay Moroz
    Nikolay Moroz (Nikolay Moroz) 25 December 2021 10: 00
    +8
    Send a summons to all foreign agents .. and here I’ll see how you sing .. we will not go ... but we will have to .. or in wartime you will not be asked .. for example Ukraine .. a court fine .. or shot in front of the system.
    1. Nikolay Moroz Offline Nikolay Moroz
      Nikolay Moroz (Nikolay Moroz) 25 December 2021 10: 03
      +2
      that erased my opus with the defeat of NATO headquarters.
    2. Michele77 Offline Michele77
      Michele77 (Mikele77) 29 December 2021 00: 46
      0
      I support! All these heroes who seem to love the country so much. Let them show in the case, otherwise a tribunal.
      And also all these fashionable bloggers that our youngsters are degrading.
  7. Alexey Davydov Offline Alexey Davydov
    Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 25 December 2021 10: 12
    +12
    The article proceeds from a "reasonable" approach, in which we will not immediately put the world and ourselves on the brink of destruction, threatening the enemy with nuclear weapons from the very beginning, and using them.
    Meanwhile, any "minus" in our capabilities does not automatically lead to a losing position, but simply changes the system of priorities in the choice of means of solving the problem by us, and nothing more.
    The threat of nuclear weapons and even the readiness to use them locally can, and should, change the plans of the States, if they are not ready to exchange nuclear strikes with us.
    I doubt that the exchange of nuclear strikes is part of the plans of the world's ruling elite, because then belonging to the elite will lose all meaning. The world will cease to be a comfortable and safe place for them.
    I think it's time for us to cede the role of peace fighters to the United States
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 26 December 2021 00: 26
      -10
      We’ll see how it will be with nuclear weapons. But with naval, base, raid minesweepers, it’s bad at the DKBF. Especially with naval and raid ones. It’s just as bad with remote, autonomous PMO weapons, with mine breakers. Even old contact, non-contact ones are not enough. If the DKBF Commander starts mine countermeasures, there will not be enough experienced fighter crews for their aviation support. -2, but also Tallinn crossing-2.
  8. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 25 December 2021 10: 15
    +13
    The Finnish maritime border is in contact with the Estonian maritime border, therefore, to leave St. Petersburg to the Baltic Sea only by breaking the NATO blockade. Yes, there is no sense in entering the Baltic, the internal sea of ​​NATO.
    The blockade of the Kaliningrad province means a declaration of war. In this case, the space group is destroyed, a nuclear-missile strike is inflicted on NATO military bases, industrial centers, the capitals of the leading European state formations (choose a target based on its importance and available means of destruction, the number of missiles) and decision-making centers in the United States, agglomeration of New England, middle west, Denver, California and Texas.
    Only the leadership of the Russian Federation would have enough determination
    1. tagil Offline tagil
      tagil (Sergei) 25 December 2021 10: 34
      +3
      The Finnish maritime border is in contact with the Estonian maritime border

      Where do these borders meet?
    2. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 25 December 2021 11: 44
      -10
      Quote: Jacques Sekavar
      a nuclear missile strike is delivered ... to decision-making centers in the United States,

      In your opinion, what are the consequences of such a strike for the Russian Federation? What kind of suicidal tendencies do you have? And for one thing, Finland is not a NATO member.
      1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
        Sapsan136 (Alexander) 26 December 2021 19: 33
        +2
        And what does the Russian Federation have to lose? Today they will seize Kaliningrad, tomorrow Vladivostok, then they will want to sit in the Kremlin, like the Poles in the days of Kozma Minin ... An attack on the Russian Federation must be stopped immediately and the Russian Federation will in any case respond by force when attacking the territory of the Russian Federation.
        1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
          Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 27 December 2021 23: 49
          -3
          Quote: Sapsan136
          And what does the Russian Federation have to lose?

          Well, for example, you can lose the RF.

          Quote: Sapsan136
          Today they will seize Kaliningrad, tomorrow Vladivostok, then they want to sit in the Kremlin, like the Poles in the days of Kozma Minin ... An attack on the Russian Federation must be stopped immediately and the Russian Federation will in any case respond by force when attacking the territory of the Russian Federation.

          Is Russia losing its confrontation with the West? Has Kaliningrad already been captured? Are they mobilizing to capture it? Are they concentrating troops at the border of the Kaliningrad region? At least they make claims to the former Konisberg?
          Are the Chinese already in Vladivostok? Or going to be there?
          Where does this defeatist mood come from? Almost all media (including this one) are trumpeting about the imminent demise of the West, and you are going to give Kaliningrad to them.
          1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
            Sapsan136 (Alexander) 27 December 2021 23: 53
            -1
            The Russian Federation will rather lose the Russian Federation if it does not strictly suppress any attempts to occupy the territories of the Russian Federation ... for if today the Russian Federation surrenders Kaliningrad, tomorrow more and more territorial concessions will be demanded from the Russian Federation, so the Russian Federation has nothing to lose, it only remains to fight to the end, but the United States has something to lose, because in the event of an attempt to seize Kaliningrad, they will become aggressors and initiators of war ... and war, or peace, this is their choice ... and the Russian Federation has more than enough missiles capable of reaching Washington ... I I'm not going to give anything to anyone, I just wrote that anyone who tries to attack the Russian Federation will have a lot of reasons for regretting their actions ...
          2. Michele77 Offline Michele77
            Michele77 (Mikele77) 29 December 2021 01: 00
            -1
            Oh, what an advanced agent!
            Well, let's think about it, why are they threatening us now? Why are they getting close to the borders? Because they have everything good, because they control everything and they have everything?
            For me, it is so obvious that internal contradictions and deep-seated overripe problems are the reason why we need to unleash a war and make money again, or at least rise up with the weakening of the competitors (by the way, the 'European democracies' are also competitors to them).
            And about suicidal tendencies, look in the mirror, you are not even preparing for this war (I hope not a nuclear one)
            1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
              Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 29 December 2021 11: 07
              -3
              I hear from the agent.

              Quote: Michele77
              Well, let's think about it, why are they threatening us now? Why are they getting close to the borders? Because they have everything good, because they control everything and they have everything?

              Well, come on, how many NATO divisions are concentrated near the borders of the Russian Federation? Did the Americans move tanks from bases in Germany and Italy? All 60? Are they landing a millionth expeditionary force in Europe? How much did the USSR and Germany spend on the army before the war of 39-45? 30-50 percent of the budget per year? Is something similar happening in Europe and America? Is the industry going on a war footing? Is there an increase in the size of the army? Is there a mobilization?
              Not? Nothing like this is happening? Then where did you get the idea that to prepare for a war?

              Quote: Michele77
              For me, it is so obvious that internal contradictions and deep overripe problems are the reason why we need to unleash a war and make money again, or at least rise up with the weakening of contenders

              Well, it’s obvious only to you and those like you. It is obvious to others that the two previous world wars were unprofitable even for the victors. And there is nothing that does not portend that it will not be so in the third. It's hard to cash in when a nuclear bomb hits the White House lawn.

              Quote: Michele77
              And about suicidal tendencies, look in the mirror, you are not even preparing for this war (I hope not a nuclear one)

              I AM? I'm definitely not preparing for any war. And I am sure that it will not be.
    3. freedom.imieiem Offline freedom.imieiem
      freedom.imieiem 25 December 2021 22: 04
      +3
      Chuvachek believes that Finland is in NAT ... What an illiterate American propagandist has gone about today ...
  9. Alexander Klevtsov (alexander klevtsov) 25 December 2021 10: 44
    -11
    As always, we are doing hats ...
  10. boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 25 December 2021 11: 08
    +12
    The author lives in the realities of the Russian-Japanese war of 1904-05.
    What is the blockade? In the event of an attack on the territory of the Russian Federation (including on a naval ship), events will develop rapidly. The ship, in order to shoot, does not have to move away from the quay wall. During the threatened period, BTA aircraft will deliver special warheads (if they are not there now). Everything will be limited to hours.
    Also, who will decide on the war? Estonia?
    The United States has clearly said (and more than once) that it will not fight the Russian Federation.
    Those countries that represent something of themselves (and there are only a few of them) now have other concerns. And these concerns have nothing to do with Russia, except for gas supplies. Which Russia will automatically block in case of a conflict.
    And every day that passes will increase the internal problems of European countries and reduce the attempts of Russophobic inadequacies.
  11. Navigator Offline Navigator
    Navigator (Andrei) 25 December 2021 11: 12
    +17
    Again, the author is engaged in coming up with unreal situations and ways to solve them. If there is a blockade of Kaliningrad, it is called "war". Why put an owl on a globe? What is the unblockade of Kaliningrad with the help of the fleet? Firstly, the entire fleet is in Baltiysk (the same Yaroslav the Wise, Fearless and Guardian) What will you send to lift the blockade? EM Persistent, standing in the factory? A! Understood! You will send the training ship Perekop there to lift the blockade. You correctly wrote that this is an internal sea of ​​NATO and our fleet does not make any weather here. When it rains, you don't blow into the sky to disperse the clouds. In the event of hostilities, the Baltic Fleet will sit like a mouse under a broom until our tanks dock at sea berths in the Baltic countries. And then after that they will walk along the coast. because the forces of the alliance and ours in the Baltic are incommensurable, and without the cover of the coastal forces, the fleet will instantly be reset to zero. There will be no naval release. The unblockade will take place through the Suvalki corridor. There are no other options.
    1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 25 December 2021 16: 21
      0
      Quote: Navigator
      And then after that they will walk along the coast. because the forces of the alliance and ours in the Baltic are incommensurable, and without the cover of the coastal forces, the fleet will instantly be reset to zero.

      And what are NATO's super duper forces in the Baltic? Decommissioned from other fleets donated old troughs of the Baltic countries and Poland? And the German fleet is quite comparable with the Baltic.
      But yes, you can't argue, the problem described by the author is sucked from the finger. His attempts to substantiate the need to purchase the Suvalkinsky corridor are the same sucked from the same finger. And if there is such a batch as the blockade and its breakthrough, which will prevent NATO countries from cutting off this corridor or destroying its infrastructure. Moreover, after a short period of time, there will be no place to break through, no where.
    2. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
      Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 25 December 2021 23: 46
      -5
      Who will arrange this corridor? What will suit you?
    3. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
      Ulysses (Alexey) 26 December 2021 00: 35
      +2
      In the event of hostilities, the Baltic Fleet will sit like a mouse under a broom until our tanks dock at sea docks in the Baltic countries.

      It is nice to know that someone thinks rationally, without hassle and mischief. smile
    4. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 28 December 2021 12: 05
      -2
      I just wanted to show that the Baltic Fleet is almost not a real combat unit. It can be used once, to strike with Calibers first, then it will cease to exist.
  12. Troy Henry Offline Troy Henry
    Troy Henry (Henry) 25 December 2021 11: 15
    +14
    the author has one task - to sow doubts, negative movements in the minds of citizens, to feel insecurity and provoke thoughts about the incompetence and, accordingly, the uselessness of the current leadership of the country
    some kind of latent sabotage
    1. S WITH Offline S WITH
      S WITH (N S) 25 December 2021 18: 35
      +4
      as an option for the CIA he sniffs out possible options for the response of the Russian Federation, so I wrote to him - nuclear weapons Tallinn and Riga will be destroyed, Lithuania will be occupied a ha ha
    2. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 28 December 2021 12: 05
      -2
      Digging too deep hi
    3. Michele77 Offline Michele77
      Michele77 (Mikele77) 29 December 2021 01: 10
      +1
      And not for the first time sabotage! Moreover, for this nonsense, some really gifted individuals are either being carried on, or are trying to enhance the effect of sabotage. But they also have nonsense and cliches about the leadership of the Russian Federation, which are already outdated.
  13. dub0vitsky Online dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 25 December 2021 11: 42
    +13
    Only this bad lawyer and VERY bad journalist thinks that Russia has nothing in the Baltic except the impoverished Baltic Fleet (the Former Fleet, as they joked back in the USSR). Enough two dozen Calibers, with a good filling, launched from the manufacturer's territory, to convince of the wrong decision to blockade RUSSIA (not the RUSSIAN fleet) within the borders of the Kaliningrad region. Apparently, this master of the pen thinks that if, for example, his finger is pinched by the door, he will try to free himself only with this finger, without using other possibilities.
    1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
      Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 25 December 2021 20: 05
      -12
      Is there really something other than an impoverished BF?
      1. freedom.imieiem Offline freedom.imieiem
        freedom.imieiem 25 December 2021 22: 11
        +3
        And what are you doing here, since you don't watch any video on the screen? Over there, on the copper, they were smacking with Zircons in one gulp ... it's a pity that not for Landon and Fashington ...
        1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
          Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 25 December 2021 23: 26
          -9
          Have the Cytromones flew far? Did you fly at least 100 kilometers?
        2. Michele77 Offline Michele77
          Michele77 (Mikele77) 29 December 2021 01: 14
          -1
          It’s a pity that it’s not in Kiiv, where the smart guy A K_2 is sitting. Hike this is the second account, so as not to get confused
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  14. Cat Offline Cat
    Cat (Sergei) 25 December 2021 11: 47
    +2
    I've heard this for a long time too. That NATO has 155 caliber artillery, which reaches all targets in Kaliningrad. In a few minutes, several divisions of self-propelled guns / MLRS can knock out all key defense facilities, it is clear that with the exception of underground ones, and then go to reserve positions and open fire again. And this is on the aircraft parking at airfields, ships at the walls and the positions of the air defense and Iskander. It is also clear that our Defense Ministry knows about this and is ready for this (or measures are taken) And the answer will be such that will not allow the outbreak of the Third World War. But which one?
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 28 December 2021 11: 51
      -1
      Thanks for the adequate comment.
  15. dub0vitsky Online dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 25 December 2021 11: 50
    +3
    Quote: boriz
    The author lives in the realities of the Russian-Japanese war of 1904-05.
    What is the blockade? In the event of an attack on the territory of the Russian Federation (including on a naval ship), events will develop rapidly. The ship, in order to shoot, does not have to move away from the quay wall. During the threatened period, BTA aircraft will deliver special warheads (if they are not there now). Everything will be limited to hours.
    Also, who will decide on the war? Estonia?
    The United States has clearly said (and more than once) that it will not fight the Russian Federation.
    Those countries that represent something of themselves (and there are only a few of them) now have other concerns. And these concerns have nothing to do with Russia, except for gas supplies. Which Russia will automatically block in case of a conflict.
    And every day that passes will increase the internal problems of European countries and reduce the attempts of Russophobic inadequacies.

    This one lives in the reality of making money in ANY way. Who will read calm discourses about, for example, the development of the Far Eastern lands. This is about the plague that gripped the Central regions of the country (do not pay attention, the example may be unsuccessful). In which this bastard lives, and who will tear apart, reading avidly, the same rats like him ... In this in the world, it is not the civic spirit, not the talent of the master, that is evaluated, but the number of likes attracted by them to the smell of carrion. This is, after all, bees fly to honey. Flies are known to be shitty.
  16. Lysik001 Offline Lysik001
    Lysik001 (boy Seryozha) 25 December 2021 12: 00
    -2
    Until we first get a good shot in the face, we will not fight well! Because they are not accustomed! To all those who disagree, learn the history of all our wars, including Georgia! To lose 5 planes it was necessary to manage during the war with these natives!
    1. freedom.imieiem Offline freedom.imieiem
      freedom.imieiem 25 December 2021 22: 16
      +4
      Yes-ah-well, the "natives" - the Georgians got in the face ... and the territories lost forever Abkhazia and South Ossetia ...
  17. dub0vitsky Online dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 25 December 2021 12: 20
    0
    Quote: Troy Heinrich
    the author has one task - to sow doubts, negative movements in the minds of citizens, to feel insecurity and provoke thoughts about the incompetence and, accordingly, the uselessness of the current leadership of the country
    some kind of latent sabotage

    And what to expect from the awarded Duma deputy, as far as I remember, Vitaly Milonov? To be promoted with the Deputy's Letter of Gratitude, carefully hiding his signature. But in the materials of this action (the awarding procedure described on the Web), it is not erased. There Zapashny, Milonov, and a couple of very odious personalities.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 28 December 2021 11: 53
      -1
      And what to expect from the awarded Duma deputy, as far as I remember, Vitaly Milonov?

      Not Milonov, but Zapashny.

      To be promoted with the Deputy's Letter of Gratitude, carefully hiding his signature. But in the materials of this action (the awarding procedure described on the Web), it is not erased

      What specific signature was closed by who and where? And for what purpose do you think?
      And why not get promoted if you have something? smile

      There Zapashny, Milonov, and a couple of very odious personalities.

      There were all respected personalities, with the exception of Milonov.
  18. dub0vitsky Online dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 25 December 2021 13: 23
    -5
    Quote: Lysik001
    Until we first get a good shot in the face, we will not fight well! Because they are not accustomed! To all those who disagree, learn the history of all our wars, including Georgia! To lose 5 planes it was necessary to manage during the war with these natives!

    Losses of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

    According to the official statement of the Investigative Committee under the Prosecutor's Office, during the hostilities, the losses of the armed forces of the Russian Federation amounted to 64 people killed, 283 wounded, and 3 more were reported missing. Losses in equipment amounted to 3 tanks, 12 BMPs (9 BMP-1 and 3 BMP-2), 2 BTR-80, 3 BRDM-2, one BMD-2 and one MTLB. According to a report by independent experts, drawn up on August 4, 2010, during the South Ossetian conflict, 6 Russian aircraft were shot down, and 4 more were later written off due to damage.
    Thus, the ratio of total losses during the 2008 South Ossetian war is one to four in favor of the Russian side, the ratio of irrecoverable losses is determined as one to three and a half in favor of the RF Armed Forces. But the killed Georgian soldiers and policemen are only 2.7 times more than the Russian ones.

    https://zen.yandex.ru/media/id/5ee41d17bcb80e7ca2335e4a/sootnoshenie-poter-rossiiskoi-i-gruzinskoi-armii-v-hode-sobytii-v-iujnoi-osetii-v-2008-godu-5f365093d108ec5c814d0239
    1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
      Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 25 December 2021 20: 08
      -10
      How much is it in money? Would it be enough to arrange warm toilets in houses in the Russian Federation?
      1. freedom.imieiem Offline freedom.imieiem
        freedom.imieiem 25 December 2021 22: 19
        +4
        We don't need your American dung in our toilets. We will manage with our toilets in the yard .... The air in the house will be cleaner.
        1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
          Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 25 December 2021 23: 29
          -6
          So winter is outside, don't freeze yourself anything, I'm not talking about my head
      2. Uncle Vanya Susanin (Ivan) 26 December 2021 20: 07
        +1
        How much is it in money? Would it be enough to arrange warm toilets in houses in the Russian Federation?

        Oh, you can immediately see the person from "Ceevropa" writes there the problem of warm toilets still excites the minds of Internet active members of society laughing
  19. Sergey Demin_2 Offline Sergey Demin_2
    Sergey Demin_2 (Sergey Dyomin) 25 December 2021 13: 33
    +4
    the author is aware that the 21st century is in the yard and not 1905? and the fact that hypersonic missiles are cruise missiles?
    EW forgot the name, can turn off ALL EQUIPMENT BEFORE ENGLAND AND SPAIN
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 28 December 2021 11: 55
      -1
      the author is aware that the 21st century is in the yard and not 1905? and the fact that hypersonic missiles are cruise missiles?

      We do not yet have hypersonic missiles in service. Not only we have cruise missiles. The military doctrine of the Russian Federation is defensive in nature, that is, the first actions will be behind the enemy.

      EW forgot the name, can turn off ALL EQUIPMENT BEFORE ENGLAND AND SPAIN

      Such systems can be destroyed by these very enemy cruise missiles. And hypersound is also on its way.
  20. Face Offline Face
    Face (Alexander Lik) 25 December 2021 14: 22
    +6
    But what happened to this author?
    Everything is at war in WWII.
  21. dub0vitsky Online dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 25 December 2021 15: 10
    +2
    Quote: Alexander K_2
    So Russian godfathers will not tolerate, they will jump into business jets and quickly, dissolve, in the fog! Remember the children of Khrushchev, Stalin

    Think of the godfathers from Great Britain who lost their property in Russia. In particular, in the Baku oil fields. Berezovsky, already from our history, ruined and dead not humanly.
  22. dub0vitsky Online dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 25 December 2021 15: 19
    -4
    Quote: Tagil
    А кто вам сказал, что я этого негра близко подпущу к своему дому. I have straps on the shoulders, whatever the blacks die on the approaches to my country (this is my duty as a military). And my country is not a mythical Russian Federation, that is clear.


    By any chance you are not the third in this line?
  23. S WITH Offline S WITH
    S WITH (N S) 25 December 2021 18: 31
    +4
    there will be no blockade, otherwise the Russian Federation will not be difficult to occupy Lithuania, the United States will not twitch, there are no suicides, to demonstrate the seriousness of its intentions, the Russian Federation can completely destroy Tallinn and Riga with a nuclear strike - American mongrels, which the Americans initially slaughtered and written off in a possible conflict with the Russian Federation, of course, the United States will not go into a direct conflict, for the conflict the Americans collected cannon fodder from the Poles of the Baltic states
  24. Dima Offline Dima
    Dima (Dmitriy) 25 December 2021 19: 55
    +5
    The article proceeds from the premise that during the blockade of Kaliningrad, Russia will not interfere in its confrontation with the NATO bloc. In fact, NATO does not need to blockade Kaliningrad, it is easier to block the straits. Since for the release of Kaliningrad, the fastest way is to capture the Baltic states.
  25. dub0vitsky Online dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 25 December 2021 20: 08
    +1
    Quote: Alexander K_2
    Is there really something other than an impoverished BF?

    Ask the foreman. Why does he still not rule in Syria? Who's in the way. Or is it impossible to enter him without a report? Is it punished?
  26. dub0vitsky Online dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 25 December 2021 20: 11
    +3
    Quote: Dima
    The article proceeds from the premise that during the blockade of Kaliningrad, Russia will not interfere in its confrontation with the NATO bloc. In fact, NATO does not need to blockade Kaliningrad, it is easier to block the straits. Since for the release of Kaliningrad, the fastest way is to capture the Baltic states.

    Certainly. Because this will be the key for us to start returning this territory.
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    1. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
      Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 25 December 2021 23: 52
      -7
      Well, yes, well, yes, it's winter in the yard, I'm not talking about the head, don't freeze your backside in the yard!
  28. shiva Offline shiva
    shiva (Ivan) 25 December 2021 21: 20
    +2
    And what, over 400 years, the window to Europe cut through by Peter turned into a door?
    During the First World War - everything was quickly blocked, read Pikul's Moonzund, during the Second World War - the same nonsense - half of the evacuation transports were sunk, the naval blockade, minefields, ships were locked and the exit was the same as during the defense of Sevastopol 100 years before - removed the guns from our ships and put them on the defense of Leningrad. Only submarines could hardly break through from the Gulf of Finland.
    1. freedom.imieiem Offline freedom.imieiem
      freedom.imieiem 25 December 2021 22: 32
      +3
      Why break through to the east somewhere? Hit Warsaw, Bucharest and London. The rest will fall off by itself
      1. freedom.imieiem Offline freedom.imieiem
        freedom.imieiem 25 December 2021 22: 57
        +2
        In general, I liked the idea of ​​the author of the article .... As a result, Russia will receive the Baltic region with the regional centers of Tartu, Ventspils, Klaipeda (Tallinn, Riga, Vilnius will not be). The Kaliningrad region will receive the districts of Gdansk and Koszalin, all regions of Ukraine will become part of Russia as a region, Belarus will receive Bialystok, Suwalki and Byala Polyaska ... somewhere like that ...
  29. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
    Ulysses (Alexey) 25 December 2021 22: 04
    +2
    Continuing the topic of a possible naval blockade of the Kaliningrad region. Some of our readers take these scenarios very lightly.

    Some of your readers, living in the Kaliningrad region, consider your article not even superficial, but delusional.
    Based on the absolute ignorance of the author of the article reality.

    PS From the positive, your horror stories in KO seem to be read only by me. smile
  30. RFR Offline RFR
    RFR (RFR) 25 December 2021 22: 10
    +4
    If the Kaliningrad region is released, it will be overland, they will roll out labuses or psheks (Suwalki corridor), and that's it ... No one will make a peep ...
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 26 December 2021 00: 27
      -7
      Thank you! laughing
  31. Handle Offline Handle
    Handle (Alexey) 26 December 2021 00: 26
    +1
    In the event of a blockade of Kaliningrad, NATO will deal with the full power of the RF Armed Forces
  32. dub0vitsky Online dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 26 December 2021 00: 27
    +4
    Quote: Alexander K_2
    Well, yes, well, yes, it's winter in the yard, I'm not talking about the head, don't freeze your backside in the yard!

    In December, he paid 1623,13 rubles for gas. This is heating, hot water, and a gas stove in the kitchen. Now the apartment is +24 degrees Celsius. We love warmth, the elderly are already with their wife. 54 squares living space. Pension for two is 32115,42 in December.
  33. alexey alexeyev_2 (Alexey Alekseev) 26 December 2021 03: 43
    +3
    Well, Estonia is slowing down our fleet in the Finnish puddle. Do you really think that the Pskov paratroopers will sit idly by. And the agreement with Finland seems to be still valid.
    1. Kurlander eight Offline Kurlander eight
      Kurlander eight (Kurlander Eight) 26 December 2021 19: 32
      +1
      You obviously did not notice the British and French contingent in Estonia, but in vain. Together, the Estonians are tens of thousands of soldiers, hundreds of units of very, very modern armored vehicles. Although the regular army of Estonia is small, it is a very impressive volunteer militia "Defense League" in terms of numbers. Armament "Defense League" is the same army, only very, very motivated volunteers, with a total strength of about 20.000 people. Together with a couple of related organizations, this is under 30.000 fighters. Plus a purely decorative army. Moreover, all these Defense League and Co. are undergoing an annual cycle of real field exercises jointly by the British and French contingents. What is important to mobilize them is not necessary, the collection period is up to a couple of hours. All equipment at home. The "Defense League" enrolls patriotic youth starting at the senior school age, undergoes annual field training continuously until the age of 60, then only the reserve leaves. Knowing the Estonians for half a century, their hatred of everything Russian is also an incredible motivation for the combat resistance of all famous soldiers at the expense of "Pskov in one day" I would not be at all sure. Along the way, you once did not know anything about the Estonians, not the Balts in general, all the soldiers on either side are extremely tough motivated uncompromising fighters.
      1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
        Ulysses (Alexey) 26 December 2021 22: 44
        +2
        on the other hand, the volunteer militia "Defense League" is quite impressive in number.

        Have you met Estonians in life?
        "forest brothers" is not about them at all.

        Armament "Defense League" is the same army, only very, very motivated volunteers

        Estonians' only motivation, "NATA will help us."
        Afghan "motivated volunteers" could tell how it ends if they could get to Estonia ..

        Knowing the Estonians for half a century, their hatred of everything Russian is also an incredible motivation for the combat resistance of all famous warriors.

        I will not speak for Latvians, but in my life I had to live in Lithuania and Estonia.
        And if the Lithuanians command a certain respect, then the Estonians rightly occupied the honorable third place in Soviet jokes after the Moldovans and the Chukchi.
        The nation of the slow-witted endured, who were trampled by all and sundry.

        they are extremely tough motivated uncompromising fighters.

        Come on, where did these warriors show themselves ??

        Perhaps with amusing parades ..

      2. alexey alexeyev_2 (Alexey Alekseev) 27 December 2021 00: 27
        0
        If you do not mind, recall the size of the British French contingents. That's right, purely symbolic. And how many Rafales and leclerks the French donated to protect these brakes. We will keep silent about the British. And what is the motivation of these warriors. One thing is to piss a flower garden by drunkenness, here they are heroes. I saw how the Americans skedaddle 08/08/08 when the paratroopers seized base in Gori. So do not flatter yourself. Fools will not die for you
  34. Kurlander eight Offline Kurlander eight
    Kurlander eight (Kurlander Eight) 26 December 2021 06: 14
    -3
    For some reason, the author does not mention one and the main circumstance. Sweden and Finland are practically NATO countries. Moreover, Sweden has a very developed heavy military industry, one of the most powerful advanced in Europe. I think that the author deliberately bypasses the question of Sweden, because then the picture becomes much sadder. Bearing in mind the intensity of the development of the production of coastal missile and artillery systems by the Swedes. And the aviation of the Swedes is the most modern and numerous in general among the countries of Europe. About coastal anti-ship missiles, everything is much more complicated. After 2014, the Swedes donated their old complexes of the 1980s-90s Saab Robotsystem 15 to the Balts. They are at least 1980-90, but there are a lot of them, and they are quite effective. The Swedes themselves in 2014 began intensively to resume the development of the coastal complexes of the RBS-1990 Mk15 anti-ship missiles, which had been curtailed in the 4s. Today they are already ready, on alert. I am always amazed at the stupidity of people mumbling something about the "Museum Complexes of the 1970s" in Gotland. Yeah, like the T-72B3 is also a "museum" piece of 1970, the same as the Swedish anti-ship missile RBS-15 Mk4 2017. It is the Swedes under the NATO partnership agreement that are responsible for tracking and blocking the Baltic Sea zone of Kaliningrad. Swedish anti-ship missile RBS-15 Mk4 has a range of 350 km. Norway is also nearby, don't forget it has a pretty decent number of modern warships armed with cruise missiles. One should not forget about the presence of numerous Patriot complexes among the Swedes, Norwegians, Finns, and even Poles. Moreover, this is all one NATO defense information and analytical network. The Baltic States are only an outpost, the leading edge where only the designation of the enemy's reconnaissance is provided. As a result, in any conflict, you can immediately forget about the Baltic and Kaliningrad. The fleet, as well as the first and second world wars, will be completely locked in the Gulf of Finland. Only fools fiercely quarrel with all neighbors so that they doom themselves to a complete blockade in any more or less serious conflict. The only capable fleet at the moment is in Russia, in fact, the Northern. The rest, alas, are easily completely blocked by numerous powerful enemies ..
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 28 December 2021 11: 59
      -1
      Thanks for the adequate comment. Yes, I took an extreme version with a bunch of conventions. I just wanted to show that there is no reason for hating.
  35. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 26 December 2021 10: 53
    -2
    An article was published on VO that the main enemy of the Russian military fleet is USC.
    So far, the fleet suffers only from them ...

    Why doesn't USC want to build ships?
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 26 December 2021 13: 58
      -5
      USC is not independent in decisions about maintaining the technical readiness of ships, the timing of the beginning and end of repairs. The author of that article elegantly avoids the main problems.
  36. Dust Offline Dust
    Dust (Sergei) 26 December 2021 13: 43
    +3
    I do not agree with the author. Why would the fleet make its way to Kaliningrad by sea when it is possible to strike powerfully from Belarus on the Baltic. It will take less than a day to capture this entire region.
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 26 December 2021 14: 00
      -6
      Powerful, how is it? What outfit of forces? And announce the mobilization? What is the probabilistic success of such an operation?
      1. Dust Offline Dust
        Dust (Sergei) 26 December 2021 14: 57
        +2
        They win not by number but by skill, 200 thousand group will cope with this task in the Baltic States.
        1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
          gunnerminer (gunner miner) 26 December 2021 15: 02
          -8
          Now, according to the materials of the information agency, about 175 thousand military personnel have been collected near the Ukrainian border. These are almost all combat-ready BTGs. From where to recruit another 200 thousand. And that, with one infantry, without any equipment, and without aviation, go to the Baltic bridgehead! forces to fight in this direction?
          1. Dust Offline Dust
            Dust (Sergei) 26 December 2021 19: 27
            +2
            And who will defend the Baltic states? In addition to the Germans, name who knows how to fight there? Americans? Do not laugh, in their entire history they have never really fought. They did not even fight the Japanese, they agreed with the USSR. At one time, when Hitler took Poland, where Europe was, although an agreement between Poland and European countries on aid existed.
            1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
              gunnerminer (gunner miner) 26 December 2021 21: 06
              -4
              The Baltic military formations can put up combat readiness at most a reinforced battalion. And then, for police functions such as patrolling, guarding detainees and prisoners of war. To the Baltic, at the same time to the Ukrainian bridgehead, the Commander of the Western Military District will have neither forces nor reserves. The massive reduction in 2008-2012 was large-scale and multifaceted. It will be necessary to capture the islands, organize there antiamphibious defense, strongholds.
  37. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 (Alexander) 26 December 2021 19: 22
    +4
    Kaliningrad is not Port Arthur and will not fight with battleships today. The Russian Federation has cruise missiles, aviation, tanks, volumetric explosion warheads, tactical nuclear ammunition ... And there is no need to write that the Russian Federation will not use anything against the countries that attacked its territory, except for the Makarov pistol ... As history shows, the war was drained peoples do not forgive the government, and not only in the Russian Federation, so it is not in the interests of those in power to merge before foreign powers.
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 26 December 2021 21: 10
      -6
      Kaliningrad is not Port Arthur, and squadron battleships will not fight today.

      They will not. The PMO at the Commander of the DCBF is in an unsatisfactory state. And the waters of the gray Baltic are both for mine laying. Yes, and "squadron battleships" with a gulkin nose. As well as the main strike force at sea, naval aviation.

      As history shows, the peoples do not forgive the government to drain the war, and not only in the Russian Federation, so it is not in the interests of those in power to merge before foreign powers.

      If those in power, as well as owners and business executives, have foreign citizenship, then they will completely merge.

      tactical nuclear weapons.

      Naive reasoning about nuclear warheads.
      1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
        Sapsan136 (Alexander) 27 December 2021 18: 30
        -1
        And why naval aviation in the Baltic Sea, especially since, apart from frostbitten ones from Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Poland, they will not find fools to attack the United States, and land aviation will be able to cope with these too !? It is not a fact that they will merge, because if they merge, they will lose power with a probability of 100%, and this is not in their interests ... Not so naive as you think, especially since today the Russian Federation has the most powerful ammunition for a volumetric explosion in The world, and this is not shaky ... The much weaker ODAB-500P burned all the militants in Bamut, and there were the strongest fortifications left there from the Strategic Missile Forces of the USSR
        1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
          gunnerminer (gunner miner) 27 December 2021 18: 38
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          Naval aviation is exactly what is needed. This was clearly shown by the Luftwaffe during the Tallinn passage in 1941 and during the Eisstoss operation. Aviation is cheaper than ships, it is quickly transferred from one theater of operations to another. And ammunition can be delivered of any power. They will have to fight not with the Baltic countries, but with their NATO partners, with Sweden and Finland. The crews of the Aerospace Forces are not trained to fly over the sea and use weapons, for example, Major Troyanov. landed in Lithuania by parachute. Lost orientation over the sea, in simple conditions.
          The militants in Bamut were not burned out. They now rule in the North Caucasus.
          1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
            Sapsan136 (Alexander) 27 December 2021 18: 48
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            Did naval aviation really matter there for the Luftwaffe? There the main role was played by the coastal aircraft of the Germans. Sweden and Finland will not dare to fight with the Russian Federation, especially since the Russian Federation has a land border with Finland, and the Finns now do not have the Mannerheim Line ... Sweden also has nothing but missile boats, and the Swedish Grippens against the Su-35, this is not serious ... Kadyrov quietly surrendered Gudermes to the Russian Federation without a fight, that's why he sits, and everyone who rock the boat was sent to (the edge of the eternal hunt) for a long time.
            1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
              gunnerminer (gunner miner) 27 December 2021 19: 31
              -5
              Yes. Imela. Not only did the convoys of Denitsa smash the convoys, but also aviation. Torpedo carriers, bombers. One aircraft at the KCHF destroyed many KCHF ships. For example, Operation Verp. The death of the leader Tashkent, transports, Chervona Ukraine and others. The Germans did not have large ships at the World Cup. in view of the Montreux Convention. That was done by the Luftwaffe on the CSF. Luftwaffe pilots underwent many-sided training. They successfully fought in the Mediterranean naval theater.

              Sweden and Finland will not dare to fight with the Russian Federation, especially since the Russian Federation has a land border with Finland, and the Finns now do not have the Monerheim line ...

              Naive. They will be the first to be pushed into battle.

              Sweden also has nothing but missile boats, and the Swedish Grippens are against the Su-35, this is not serious ..

              The Swedes have the best Visby corvettes in the world. Read about them an educational program. Before such technologies, the creators of Russian corvettes like the moon on a donkey. The DCBF has a tiny fleet. Divided in two. A modern plane with a radar station. With a radar station with AFAR. With powerful intelligence and a continuous information field. And it's not airplanes that are fighting, but infrastructures and crews. In aviation DKBF Su-27, Su-30SM, MiG-29SMT.
              1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                Sapsan136 (Alexander) 27 December 2021 19: 45
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                I see no reason for your allegations. Sweden and Finland will not get involved in the war ... Visby is not corvettes, these are Small Rocket Ships ... Grippens have not fought anywhere ... Leopard before Syria was also called by many the best tank in the World, and they rot in Syria, with turrets torn off by an explosion of ammunition and dead elite Turkish crews ... Grippen is a light budget vehicle that, in the best case for Sweden, will be able to compete with the MiG-29MST, it will not ride against the Su-35 ... Luftwaffe naval aviation, this is Henkel -115 and they did not have great success ...
                1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                  gunnerminer (gunner miner) 27 December 2021 20: 02
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                  Sweden and Finland will not get involved in the war.

                  They train with NATO not to fish, and not to pick strawberries.

                  Visby are not corvettes, they are Small Rocket Ships .....

                  Read the Russian paramilitary media. We do not have such ships.

                  The crews of the Leopards did not provide reconnaissance. They operated in disagreement. And they will not throw their tankers into the battle for Ukraine. Gentlemen do not care about the death of the natives. They have already been written off.
                  Read more about naval aviation.
                  1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                    Sapsan136 (Alexander) 27 December 2021 20: 05
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                    Well, India also conducted exercises with NATO and the Russian Federation, this is not a reason to believe that the Scandinavians will get involved in a war against the Russian Federation ... The Russian Federation has enough funds to create serious problems for the Scandinavians ... I have friends from the Aerospace Forces and how then don't be too afraid of the Swedes and Finns ...
                    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 27 December 2021 22: 32
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                      The problems of the Scandinavians do not give the NATO (US) leadership a heartache.
                      1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                        Sapsan136 (Alexander) 27 December 2021 23: 45
                        +1
                        The Scandinavians are not as stupid as you think to attack the Russian Federation.
                      2. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 28 December 2021 00: 30
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                        They don't decide who to attack or when. Their number is 16.
                      3. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                        Sapsan136 (Alexander) 5 January 2022 13: 16
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                        The USA even sends Pakistan to hell, which it did not do before, and the Scandinavians will send
                      4. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 5 January 2022 13: 23
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                        How will they send, if they participate in joint exercises with NATO, actively acquire American military equipment!
                      5. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                        Sapsan136 (Alexander) 11 January 2022 16: 23
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                        And they are not particularly in a hurry to buy it. The tanks there are either of their own production or German, the planes are mostly Swedish-made
  • Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 (Alexander) 26 December 2021 19: 51
    +1
    By the way, the SAM ammunition on the frigate Yaroslav the Wise is 32 Dagger SAM missiles, another 32 ZRAK Kortik missiles and 500 30 mm rounds for each barrel of two 30 mm Kortik ZRAK cannons. How many anti-ship missiles do the Balts have and are they sure that their cities and military bases will not be beaten by Iskander, Tochki and aviation?
    1. Navigator Offline Navigator
      Navigator (Andrei) 26 December 2021 22: 12
      +1
      Dagger and Dagger are outdated and ineffective complexes. Three anti-ship missiles are enough to put an end to Yaroslav.
      1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
        Sapsan136 (Alexander) 27 December 2021 18: 25
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        Perhaps, although not a fact, it seems to me that these three RCCs will put an end to the independence of the Baltic republics ... and their entire army, and at the same time the NATO units stationed there ... for the attempt to seize Kaliningrad by the Russian Federation, without a doubt, will respond with force
        1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
          gunnerminer (gunner miner) 27 December 2021 18: 40
          -4
          Bragging is good in moderation.
    2. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 27 December 2021 18: 40
      -3
      These missiles only scare the crows. The air defense of the frigate will not withstand a blow from several directions and heights, more than 5 anti-ship missiles.
      1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
        Sapsan136 (Alexander) 27 December 2021 18: 49
        -1
        And what and who will shoot at the frigate from different directions?
        1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
          gunnerminer (gunner miner) 27 December 2021 19: 35
          -4
          As who? The enemy. Airborne. It is exactly the same attacking ships. Since the 40s of the last century. To complicate the task of the ship's combat crew to control fire, and to complicate the situation, for him. I will try to explain it clearly. Experienced street fighters attack in a group on one, from all sides. And not one by one, in turn. Or they can attack with stones from different sides. The head of the defender is one, he will not keep track of the entire horizon.
          1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
            Sapsan136 (Alexander) 27 December 2021 19: 40
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            Which country will go to war with the Russian Federation for Kaliningrad ?! Sweden and Finland said that they were ready to defend their sovereignty, but they did not say anything about sending their troops to capture Kaliningrad, or the defense of foreign states, such as Latvia, or Poland. Finland is armed with planes decommissioned from foreign air forces, and those are not a lot. Swedish Grippens will not work against the Su-35 either ... The Polish Air Force has F-16s, but there are not many of them, and these opponents' planes are more likely for MiGs, and not for Sushki ...
            1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
              gunnerminer (gunner miner) 27 December 2021 19: 46
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              Not a country, but NATO. Together with Sweden and Finland, regularly participating in NATO exercises. The Finns recently decided to purchase an F-35. They created an excellent Hamina-type boat, stuffed with air defense and anti-aircraft weapons. They sell sea mines to Estonia.
              1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                Sapsan136 (Alexander) 27 December 2021 19: 48
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                Sweden and Finland are not NATO members and have no obligations to NATO ... Making a decision is one thing, but buying and mastering is completely different ... and the F-35 fought only against the Papuans to a limited extent, several cars have already been lost for technical reasons
                1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                  gunnerminer (gunner miner) 27 December 2021 20: 04
                  -4
                  The Swedes and Finns have long partnerships with NATO, participating in exercises. The F-35 is the best light fighter. We do not have such technologies that are embodied in this aircraft. Therefore, advertising the Su-75 in Dubai, the KLA proclaimed an open architecture for the avionics.
                  1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                    Sapsan136 (Alexander) 27 December 2021 20: 07
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                    In words, they are all Leo Tolstoy, but in fact ... the Balts received contact sea mines from the Finns ... it is trawled even by minesweepers of the Second World War.
                    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 27 December 2021 22: 37
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                      Pay attention to the number and quality of minesweepers at the disposal of the Commander of the DKBF. As well as the quality of the PMO. It is guaranteed to be trashed with air support, and strong air defense. Not enough forces for air defense. Read the educational program about minesweeping, how many, what kind of trawls, breakers, destroyers mines will be needed. And if all this is at the command of the DKBF, after all the reforms and reductions, the OSK can build one basic minesweeper per year.
                      1. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
                        Sapsan136 (Alexander) 27 December 2021 23: 44
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                        To sweep the contact mines that the Balts received from the Finns, any trough from the Great Patriotic War will be enough ... And the aviation support will be ... the Balts have no aviation, and the Russian Air Force will cope with the Polish Air Force without straining ... You are a science fiction writer ...
                      2. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 28 December 2021 00: 33
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                        Not enough. They will lay mines with mine defenders. Even the troughs of the Commander of the DKBF are minuscule.

                        And there will be aviation support.

                        Look, at least on Wikipedia, for the DKBF forces. Naval Aviation.
  • mykola kovacs Offline mykola kovacs
    mykola kovacs (mykola kovac) 26 December 2021 23: 58
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    Only one question for the author: Why would Russian ships go to the rescue of Kaliningrad? That there are no military steamers?
  • seziomoff.s Offline seziomoff.s
    seziomoff.s (Sergey Sezyomov) 27 December 2021 16: 33
    +2
    Why do all the authors of such articles consider the theater of operations so one-sided. Will only the ships of the Baltic Fleet fight, trawl mines only available minesweepers, etc.?
    Without considering the nuclear component, when using which a war in a given theater can be completed in 2 hours, the author must take into account the capabilities of the NWVO forces and its reinforcement by units and formations of the second echelon of the Central Military District. The problems of the Baltic Sea will be solved onshore. As it has been more than once in history.
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 27 December 2021 18: 42
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      And what, how can you transfer the modest forces of the KSF to the Baltic?

      The problems of the Baltic Sea will be solved onshore. As it has been more than once in history.

      How so?

      Without considering the nuclear component, using which a war in a given theater can be finished in 2 hours,

      Naive hopes for nuclear weapons.
  • Evgeni savchenko (Evgeni Savchenko) 28 December 2021 06: 47
    +1
    It's like that. But not one will send ships on a suicidal voyage. To begin with, the Balts will be thoroughly cleaned up. There is no problem to destroy the infrastructure in the Baltic territory that threatens the Russian Navy.
  • Boris99 Offline Boris99
    Boris99 (Boris) 28 December 2021 10: 27
    +1
    The author argues in terms of the Russian-Japanese war. The described scenario (in which all countries take part) belongs to the 3rd world, which means that we will hit in the face not childishly. At the first attempt to mine the fairways, the Baltic states will be occupied by Russian troops. In the same Estonia will be the Pskov Airborne Division. Well, why does the author forget about OTR (Iskander), VKS (including strategic aviation), electronic warfare and much more. Moreover, with a serious mix, I assume that the warheads of the missiles will be nuclear. In addition, do not forget that an echeloned missile defense system has been created in the Kaliningrad region, which reliably covers, among other things, bases with BF ships.
  • kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 28 December 2021 11: 20
    +2
    So everyone will wait when all ours will be destroyed. Complete nonsense ...
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 28 December 2021 12: 02
      -1
      Well, thank you. hi
  • dub0vitsky Online dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 28 December 2021 11: 59
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    Quote: Marzhetsky
    And what to expect from the awarded Duma deputy, as far as I remember, Vitaly Milonov?

    Not Milonov, but Zapashny.

    To be promoted with the Deputy's Letter of Gratitude, carefully hiding his signature. But in the materials of this action (the awarding procedure described on the Web), it is not erased

    What specific signature was closed by who and where?

    There Zapashny, Milonov, and a couple of very odious personalities.

    There were all respected personalities, with the exception of Milonov.

    Even this is not able to understand? Look at the picture of this Letter. The bottom is cut off, and, deliberately. Nothing is done by chance, fulfilling the request, or it is your own initiative - choose for yourself what suits you best. It's no coincidence that you flaunt yourself with the nasty Milonov. The main thing is to flicker, and the more scandalous it turns out, the louder and more PR people.
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  • House 25 Sq. 380 (House 25 Sq. 380) 28 December 2021 13: 29
    +1
    And why, during a nuclear war, carry out a naval de-blockade of Kaliningrad?
    Marzhetsky will come up with something, he will be scared and will scare others ...
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 28 December 2021 17: 01
      -1
      Honestly, it’s funny and sad to read how everyone here rely on nuclear weapons. Forget about it altogether, no one will really use it.
      1. House 25 Sq. 380 (House 25 Sq. 380) 28 December 2021 21: 43
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        Of course, when the third world war begins, then everyone will shoot from crossbows, oga ...
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  • dub0vitsky Online dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 28 December 2021 18: 02
    +1
    Quote: Marzhetsky
    Honestly, it’s funny and sad to read how everyone here rely on nuclear weapons. Forget about it altogether, no one will really use it.

    And you will convince NATO members of this. Prove, finally, irrevocably. And they, inspired and convinced, will inflict a NON-NUCLEAR devastating blow on Russia. To fight with united forces that are ten times superior to us in people, weapons, (although not as perfect as ours, but so far in very small numbers). for destructive.
  • Krilion Offline Krilion
    Krilion (Krilion) 29 December 2021 02: 37
    +1
    excuse me, but the topic is really crazy ... if we consider the options for unblocking by military methods, then the fleet will be used in the very last place, as support .. unblocking will of course be carried out by land ... this even if you do not delve into speculations about the initial madness of the venture with the blockade of the territory of a state with nuclear and missile weapons .. a blockade means a full-scale war, 99% of the use of strategic nuclear forces and issues of unblocking are immediately pushed to last place ..
  • Nikolay V-Maltsevsky (Nikolay V-Maltsevsky) 30 December 2021 08: 29
    +1
    The author described some kind of cheap, cowardly scenario. Like a guard, it's time to surrender, but it is better to be silent in a rag and, as in all years, stand on tsyrlah in front of her and same-sex. Maybe enough to disgrace RUSSIA and the Russian people? Who will hit Russian ports? NATO? USA? Or the dejected Balts themselves? What are you talking about? RUSSIA has so many powerful weapons that a few minutes are enough to dust off the entire same-sex gayrope. And they are well aware of this. Do you think these gays are fools? Or you have nothing more to write?
  • Russophile Offline Russophile
    Russophile (Igor) 30 December 2021 08: 42
    +1
    What nonsense ?! So (according to the author) smelly psheki and Baltic sprat will attack our Kaliningrad region, and the rest of Russia will stupidly look at it?
    About 15 years ago, one dog in Smolensk told me something similar. They say they are now in NATO and can easily take Kaliningrad and Belarus, and much more.
    I answered him: just rock the boat and there will be a desert in the place of prosperous Europe, and whoever is lucky enough to stay a couple of hundred years will give birth to six-legged five () uchiks.
    He yelled like that dill from Belbek "America is with us"
    Again he replied that they would ask a question: will we continue butting or will proceed to the division of the former euro colonies and the rest of the property. What do you think the Pindrs will agree to? And the good will be enough there for a long time.
    For those who are particularly dull, let me remind you that publicly a few years ago it was announced that Russia would no longer allow war on its territory, and later it was added: why do we need such a world if there is no Russia in it?
    So let Tabaki make some noise. They have such a job
  • Marciz Offline Marciz
    Marciz (Stas) 1 January 2022 06: 44
    -1
    In short, Putin withdrew all charges in advance if Russia suddenly becomes Muscovy, the Baltic states are enemies, and now Ukraine is an enemy, the last Russians are driven to war after which the territory of the Russian Federation will become empty.
  • Yuri Valerievich (Yuri Valerievich) 15 January 2022 07: 03
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    Why do all writers of such opuses forget about Russia's nuclear triad? One bang and there is not a single enemy on the way to Kaliningrad, one more bang and the fairway is deeper ... What's the problem then?
  • Handle Offline Handle
    Handle (Alexey) 17 January 2022 16: 05
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    As the Ministry of Defense notes, the functions of the electronic warfare specialists of the Baltic Fleet include not only jamming, but also the collection and analysis of intelligence information obtained by observing electromagnetic radiation in the short and ultrashort wave bands. In addition to electronic warfare equipment in the Kaliningrad region, conventional weapons have also been actively updated in recent years. In recent years, the Russian exclave in the Baltic has received several divisions of S-400 Triumph anti-aircraft missile systems. The naval aviation received Su-30SM multirole fighters and upgraded Ka-27M helicopters. Tank units of the army corps are replacing outdated T-72Bs with their latest modification T-72B3M, better protected and with more firepower. The missile brigade was re-equipped with long-range Iskander-M with ballistic and cruise missiles.

    https://iz.ru/1086911/anton-lavrov-roman-kretcul/elektronnyi-tuman-pod-kaliningradom-razmestili-novyi-kompleks-pomekh
  • Denis radish Offline Denis radish
    Denis radish (Denis Moroz) 20 January 2022 11: 58
    -1
    analyst guys. I personally believe that if it comes to a military clash with NATO, nuclear weapons will be used immediately against anyone. that's all.
    Today, times are such that the value of human life has remained only on the pages of conventions and declarations, which, in essence, are not worth the paper on which they are written.
  • Pavel Zheleznyak (Pavel Zheleznyak) 20 January 2022 18: 38
    0
    Briefly speaking. Wherever you poke, the Motherland is in danger. Why???
  • STALIN-01V Offline STALIN-01V
    STALIN-01V (Victor Osipov) 21 January 2022 13: 53
    0
    For 22 years in power, it was possible to fix a lot, but they fixed the most valuable thing in the hearts of our rulers, and this is to steal and put your friends and relatives on the Forbes list!
  • BABR1950 Offline BABR1950
    BABR1950 23 January 2022 01: 18
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    Passenger ferry service is extremely necessary for citizens living in Kaliningrad. There was an old ferry Georg Ots, but it was moved to the Far East. No more. There is a ferry from Ust-Luga, but it is for trucks.
  • Poligraf Poligrafovich (Vadim Vorobyov) 24 January 2022 22: 44
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    ... And what, "our" nouveaux riches have already withdrawn assets from NATO countries, and returned the kids home?