How Ukraine takes the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation into the "rocket sight"


As we have already noted many times, the processes of rearmament of the army and navy taking place in Ukraine are categorically underestimated in Russia. For each movement from the "other side" to the side of amplification, we have our own "hypersonic capping thrower." And completely in vain. Subsequently, as if I did not have to bitterly regret it.


Some time ago on the "Reporter" came out publicationdedicated to the threat posed by the Russian Navy to the Black Sea Fleet. It would seem, what can the Ukrainian "mosquito" fleet oppose to our mighty warships? It turns out that he can still do something.

So, with some annoyance, we came to the conclusion that with the help of high-speed American patrol boats and specially trained combat swimmers-saboteurs, the Naval Forces of Ukraine are able to mine the waters of the Azov and Black Seas, significantly hampering the exit of the Russian navy from ports, as well as its freedom of action. The mine threat is not a joke, you will have to trawl and waste precious time.

The idea, quite frivolously expressed by some readers, to sink Ukrainian ships at the first suspicion of a mine-laying does not stand up to criticism. It's one thing when a war is already going on, then these boats can really be destroyed by missile strikes right near the berths. It is quite another matter if the state of war with Independence has not been officially declared, and there seems to be nothing to sink Ukrainian boats for. But suppose Russia is simultaneously having some kind of conflict with the NATO bloc, which, for example, ignored the Kremlin's ultimatum not to expand to the East. Then the Naval Forces of Ukraine, having mined the waters of the Azov and Black Seas, will act on the side of the North Atlantic Alliance in fact as a "kamikaze". Of course, they will not feel sorry for them in Washington and Brussels, since it is a consumable for them.

Let's see what other threat the Ukrainian army and navy can present to the Russian Black Sea Fleet.

And this threat is quite real, and it comes from the anti-ship missiles "Neptune", to which we for some reason are extremely frivolous. The anti-ship missile "Neptune" was created on the basis of the Soviet Kh-35 missile. It is designed to destroy ships with a displacement of up to 5000 tons, as well as to destroy ground targets, such as the Crimean bridge. The Ukrainian missile can have three basing options: land, sea and air. Dangerous for the ships of the Black Sea Fleet, based in Sevastopol and even in Novorossiysk, it is made by the flight range of 280 kilometers.

At first, announced the creation of three divisions of coastal missile forces at once until 2026. The first division will be formed by the spring of next 2022. The armament of the coastal defense forces will be RK-360MTS complexes equipped with Neptune anti-ship missiles. This is reportedly done in order to prevent the threat of an amphibious assault by the Black Sea Fleet. But what will prevent the deployment of a missile division somewhere in Berdyansk or Ochakov to protect the naval bases under construction?

Nothing gets in the way. This is the sovereign right of Ukraine. From the coast of the Black and Azov Seas, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will shoot not only Sevastopol, where our Black Sea Fleet is based, but also distant Novorossiysk. Also, one successful hit of "Neptune" is enough to disable the Crimean bridge and cut off the reliable transport supply of the peninsula.

Secondlylaughing at the "mosquito" fleet of Nezalezhnaya, we somehow forget that the Ukrainian Navy will seriously strengthen its defensive and offensive potential in the near future. Let's remember that Kiev ordered several corvettes of the "Ada" project from Ankara. So, it will be very useful to know that the first corvette is already 75-80% ready. Please note that the ship was laid down on September 7, 2021! The commander of the Ukrainian fleet, Admiral Oleksiy Neizhpapa, commented on this event as follows:

This is a significant moment for Ukraine and a significant impetus for the country's naval development. All agreements with Turkey are being implemented on time, and in some cases ahead of schedule.

Compare this with the construction time frame of our long-suffering corvettes of projects 20380/20385. One of them, "Provorny", intended for the Pacific Fleet of the Russian Federation, was under construction for more than eight years and burned down a few days ago. In size, "Ada" is not much inferior to Russian corvettes: a displacement of 1524 tons is standard and 2032 tons is full. The Turkish ship will be transferred to the Ukrainian plant "Ocean", where it will be completed and equipped. Its armament, according to the Ministry of Defense Nezalezhnaya, will be the American RGM-28 Harpoon anti-ship missiles, 324-mm torpedo tubes with MU90 Impact anti-submarine torpedoes, the 76-mm OTO Melara Super Rapid artillery mount and the VL MIСA anti-aircraft missile system from MBDA. This is a fairly serious warship, which the Ukrainian Navy will receive at least 4 units.

And what happens in the end? Until the end of the decade, Kiev will have a "mosquito" fleet that will be able to carry out mine laying, blocking the freedom of operations of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation, deliver missile strikes with American RGM-28 Harpoon anti-ship missiles, as well as coastal missile systems that will be able to shoot through Russian naval bases from Sevastopol to Novorossiysk. So the question is, is it worth it to treat all this so lightly as our "chap-throwers" do?
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  1. Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 21 December 2021 15: 53
    -4
    So before, and until now, the media convinced that everything was about to fall apart. The fat is over, the black soil will be sold, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be killed, Zelensky and Prokhor are in jail, the nuclear power plant will explode ...

    And suddenly "takes aim" ...

    Either take off your flippers, or put on a tie ...
  2. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 21 December 2021 16: 10
    -4
    Quote: Sergey Latyshev
    So before, and until now, the media convinced that everything was about to fall apart. The fat is over, the black soil will be sold, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be killed, Zelensky and Prokhor are in jail, the nuclear power plant will explode ...

    lied

    And suddenly "takes aim" ...

    Smart people talked about it back in 2014
    1. Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 21 December 2021 23: 49
      -1
      1. Ayayayay, on the site they wrote here. Out of luck for you .....
      2. They were considered liberda and alarmists.
      1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
        Marzhecki (Sergei) 22 December 2021 11: 10
        -5
        The Reporter website was created in 2018.
        I personally wrote about this on VO in 2014 and 2015.
        1. Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 22 December 2021 14: 08
          -3
          I hope you were not considered that way there. VO is not highly politicized.

          But commentators are weird everywhere.
    2. sH, arK Offline sH, arK
      sH, arK 23 December 2021 12: 10
      +1
      Let's cool down, stop carrying fever;) And the boats of the "wolf pack" are still more like a pack of old stray dogs, in composition, that's right! They do not pose any serious threat!
      There is a theoretical threat from the Neptune and Alder missile system. True, they are not yet in service at least in some quantity, but this is a real threat. The threat is counteracted, and in a preventive version of actions, it can hardly be considered serious at all.
      Mining, subject to the receipt of mines or the creation of your own (so far they are not, and so far no one is discussing their creation!) - a process that requires control of the water area, which is not. Yes, theoretically, you can mine the traverse of the Odessa port, but this is only their principle "in spite of the enemies selling a goat ..." Do not consider Ukrainians as such fools!
      The adoption of ADA-type corvettes is a serious step, but also does not change the alignment. The main thing is to understand that if a war starts, it will no longer be a local small clash, but a serious issue, and there is no more advantageous theater of operations for Russia. And this issue can be resolved quickly and with minimal losses on both sides.
      The problem is in something else, and it was - WHAT NEXT ?!
      To clean up Novorossia, quickly create a new state on its basis, and not a bunch of next "republics" and already with its army, with the support of Russia, clean out all the lands on the left bank of the Dnieper. It's fast. But it takes a long time and costly to clean up the entire durkaina. And most importantly - why ?! But leaving it, having turned it into a stronghold of hostilities against us, already completely distraught with hatred, is also a bad option. And economically, this is a moot point, given the interests of our "entourage".
      You definitely shouldn't be in a hurry, and twist your legs like Mr. Marzhetsky. Yes, the dynamics of the situation is there, but the overall balance is still unchanged. We are waiting, but the situation must be maintained!
      1. Pavel57 Offline Pavel57
        Pavel57 (Paul) 25 December 2021 05: 55
        0
        Neptune in what war? Hit with Neptune and start negotiations for peace? Or hit with Neptune and dump it somewhere else? And this is without regarding the result of the blow: something will be sunk or the bridge will be damaged.
        1. sH, arK Offline sH, arK
          sH, arK 25 December 2021 11: 54
          0
          Whoever gives the order to "hit" will absolutely not care what happens next. And the order will not be given by the Ukrainian president - the order will be given from outside. And Russia's retaliatory strike will be, first of all, to him "at the box office." Durkaina is a specific education, ill-managed, and any catastrophe there, if it can be attributed to the neighbors, is very profitable.
          Russia to strike at industrial, albeit dilapidated, centers - to harm itself! And people, nevertheless, a significant part are not just Russians by birth and genotype, but also by worldview. This is the problem - some will start the war, and completely different people will have to pay for it!
  3. andrey ivanov_2 Offline andrey ivanov_2
    andrey ivanov_2 (Andrey Ivanov) 21 December 2021 16: 48
    +6
    I dare to hope that after the first salvo of the Armed Forces or Naval Forces on the territory or facilities of Russia there will be an immediate blow across the entire territory of Ukraine, the destruction of the entire infrastructure of this unfinished, followed by a total blocking of the borders of the "square" with the subsequent behavior of Russian border guards like the attitude of the US border guards towards the Mexicans and other things (when they cross the border) ......
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 22 December 2021 11: 14
      -4
      Are you deliberately ignoring what is written in the article as conditions for the start of actions by the Ukrainian Navy?
      1. andrey ivanov_2 Offline andrey ivanov_2
        andrey ivanov_2 (Andrey Ivanov) 23 December 2021 16: 24
        0
        IN PRINCIPLE, I don’t care about any conditions on the part of the military forces, even the armed forces, even the most acting (as it were) president of ukraine. IN PRINCIPLE, I am concerned only with the question: "How long will the Russian government endure attacks not enough, including the dispatch of various kinds of representatives of special services of the neighboring territory. I do not understand IN PRINCIPLE, why take all this ... alive ????? This is what I deliberately do not understand .......
  4. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 21 December 2021 16: 55
    +4
    So, with some annoyance, we came to the conclusion that with the help of high-speed American patrol boats and specially trained combat swimmers-saboteurs, the Naval Forces of Ukraine are able to mine the waters of the Azov and Black Seas, significantly hampering the exit of the Russian navy from ports, as well as its freedom of action.

    And what about the supply of fuel and lubricants to the Armed Forces of Ukraine and its fleet from the side of the Union State did not come to a conclusion? There will be no supply of fuels and lubricants, and there will be no sorties. Try at least to try, and only then say that everything is lost.
  5. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
    sgrabik (Sergei) 21 December 2021 17: 08
    +1
    All this implies only one thing, that you need to act urgently, and not hide your head in the sand and pretend that everything is under control and nothing terrible is happening !!!
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 22 December 2021 11: 13
      -5
      It is necessary for a long time. But we are still being rescued by a hypersonic cannon.
  6. Old Skeptic Offline Old Skeptic
    Old Skeptic (Old Skeptic) 21 December 2021 18: 54
    +7
    1. Mineralization of international waters? Or their territorial ones?
    2. How to mine? And the amount? All mine weapons remained in Crimea.
    3. Mining is to deprive yourself of ports for a long time, and the Azov ports forever.
    4. Have you forgotten about aviation?
  7. gorskova.ir Offline gorskova.ir
    gorskova.ir (Irina Gorskova) 21 December 2021 18: 59
    +1
    You shouldn't consider Russian "suckers". Such a description was given to themselves by Ukraine. All sorts of stupid pictures with "a terrible army near the borders of Ukraine", all sorts of "sights" are seen from the Russian side. I suppose even more than what this article is scared about here. Shoigu said this today very beautifully in his report ...
  8. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 21 December 2021 20: 30
    +1
    Why did you get the idea to drive rubber boats with destroyers? There are things commensurate in size and weapons. and in quantity. Look at the exit of dill conservatives like mosquitoes. Going beyond the Russian water area. We can drive much more of these along the internal river routes. If a squadron of these scows suddenly appears, there is also SU 24, which are quite suitable for observation and warning. Panic is beneficial to our non-brothers. They have an opinion. that we can be scared. Don't give them such pleasure. Doesn't the experience of pacifying the proud Georgian sailors tell you anything?
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 22 December 2021 11: 12
      -3
      If a squadron of these scows suddenly appears, there is also SU 24, which are quite suitable for observation and warning.

      Straight without a declaration of war? Oh well.
  9. alexey alexeyev_2 (Alexey Alekseev) 21 December 2021 20: 49
    +5
    Not tired of frightening Mr. Marzhetsky .. Until the end of the decade, a lot of things will change. And it really seems to me that the country will not survive until the end of the decade in its present form. As you go along, you yourself are already afraid. You see mines everywhere That rockets from nowhere flying
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 22 December 2021 11: 11
      -6
      Who are you for me to scare you? I say it as it is.
      1. alexey alexeyev_2 (Alexey Alekseev) 22 December 2021 12: 02
        +3
        Yes, I'm an ordinary man in the street. I'm very wise by life experience. And I don't blow on cold water. The Black Sea and even more so the Azov theater is not the same theater of operations so that the ukrantsy can roam there. They are even woodpeckers and finished but not to the same extent as to block their own ports by mining. .And shmalnut a rocket towards the Crimean bridge?. This is their mrii. Unrealizable. Well, let's say that they will lock, as you dream, the Black Sea Fleet at the bases. Even if half of them reach the infrastructure, unacceptable damage will be caused. Even madmen have an instinct for self-preservation, and we saw how Shoigu got the hang of creating groups of troops and other shock fists in different teachings. lol
  10. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 22 December 2021 01: 57
    +2
    Think of this. Rubber will block a fully functional fleet. It seems to me very much that these bubbles will already sink at their berths, blocked just by our pieces of iron. Or welded to the pier, following the example of the Ukrainian submarine fleet represented by Zaporozhye. standing in captivity of the damned Muscovites. So that, therefore, not to drown.
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 22 December 2021 11: 12
      -4
      What other rubber? See the performance characteristics of American patrol boats and Turkish corvettes.
  11. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 22 December 2021 02: 02
    +1
    Quote: sgrabik
    All this implies only one thing, that you need to act urgently, and not hide your head in the sand and pretend that everything is under control and nothing terrible is happening !!!

    Haste, as you know, is needed in two cases. When catching fleas, and when ...... You need to watch carefully, without moving, keeping in mind that everything is ready for a friendly warm reception of very dear guests. The meal is ready, if you remember "Demyanova's ear". it will be clear what I mean.
  12. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 22 December 2021 13: 09
    0
    Quote: Marzhetsky
    If a squadron of these scows suddenly appears, there is also SU 24, which are quite suitable for observation and warning.

    Straight without a declaration of war? Oh well.

    You can drive destroyers without an announcement, but you can't use mosquitoes and SUs? You must be consistent.
  13. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 22 December 2021 13: 12
    +1
    Quote: Marzhetsky
    What other rubber? See the performance characteristics of American patrol boats and Turkish corvettes.

    I looked. So what? Timing. When, how much, and for what loot. Perhaps tomorrow they will promise to fit the aircraft carrier. So what? Is it in the order of brotherly assistance? They are not like us, this is us ...
  14. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 22 December 2021 13: 18
    +2
    Quote: alexey alexeyev_2
    Not tired of frightening Mr. Marzhetsky .. Until the end of the decade, a lot of things will change. And it really seems to me that the country will not survive until the end of the decade in its present form. As you go along, you yourself are already afraid. You see mines everywhere That rockets from nowhere flying

    Yes, he does not scare you. It just makes money. Who will read the relational and soothing articles? How many views and likes will there be? Such things as the acceptance of Buzova in the THEATER are being evaluated. The eighteenth divorce of a pop diva. So here, yell louder and more terrible, you look, and ...
  15. Dart2027 Offline Dart2027
    Dart2027 22 December 2021 14: 29
    +1
    So, it will be very useful to know that the first corvette is already 75-80% ready. Please note that the ship was laid down on September 7, 2021!

    If you look at the speed at which these corvettes were built for themselves, then the latter has a tab on 08.10.2015/29.09.2019/XNUMX, and in service from XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX, so it's hard to believe in the declared readiness.

    And this threat is quite real, and it comes from the anti-ship missiles "Neptune", to which we for some reason are extremely frivolous

    Aro, their adoption has been announced for the umpteenth time, but the question is how many of these complexes they have.

    So the question is, is it worth it to treat all this so lightly as our "chap-throwers" do?

    One very simple question - so what?
    In the case of a DB with Ukraine, our fleet will be neither warm nor cold from mines. Why? And why should he go somewhere? What tasks will be solved by his forces? Landing in Odessa or Mariupol? Let's say, but is it really necessary. A missile strike can be launched from the piers, and the infantry can reach it anyway. Missile strike? This is already more serious, but how many of these missiles will there be and will they be able to break through the air defense and missile defense systems of the naval bases? I doubt.
    Just the other day I was watching a recording of a program where political scientist Alexander Lazarev, making fun of the theft in the Ukrainian army and its "wall" on his fingers, explains how a hypothetical war between Ukraine and Russia would look like.

    Guys, the sky is open. A missile strike in a full-scale invasion is delivered at strategic targets, at communication facilities, at targets of concentration of military equipment. Then the airstrike. And then the land operation starts.

  16. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 22 December 2021 15: 07
    +1
    Quote: Marzhetsky
    It is necessary for a long time. But we are still being rescued by a hypersonic cannon.

    Fakes and NOT fakes about being on the border of our 200 thousand are not hypersonic. This is an understandable pressure that paralyzes many. In addition, the authors are rapidly earning money on nonsense.
  17. Cat Offline Cat
    Cat (Sergei) 23 December 2021 09: 08
    +1
    Well, yes ... everything can and cannot be. Is there another question here? Where does Ukraine get a billion dollars from? for the purchase of four corvettes in Turkey? What are these loans? Subsidies? There is no money of their own .... And THOSE just don’t give money .... Any article is useful. There is something to think about and look at yourself.
  18. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 23 December 2021 13: 11
    0
    Quote: Marzhetsky
    What other rubber? See the performance characteristics of American patrol boats and Turkish corvettes.

    https://topcor.ru/23269-pressa-ssha-esche-7-let-nazad-chf-rf-pogibal-a-segodnja-mozhet-dostat-do-kieva.html
    You know, I'm on the side of reason, not ritual.
  19. Sapsan136 Offline Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 (Alexander) 27 December 2021 20: 01
    0
    Well, how long will the ships and boats of Nezalezhnaya remain afloat, in the event of the outbreak of hostilities, if the Russian Federation, even from the shore, can hit the targets of the Onyx anti-ship missile system ?!
  20. Besmaster Offline Besmaster
    Besmaster (Alexander) 31 December 2021 14: 29
    0
    Ukraine only has a rocket sight, but no missiles.