"Well, let's switch to firewood": Poles on a new record in gas prices

Visitors to the Polish news site Gazeta Wyborcza commented on the new surge in gas prices in Europe after Gazprom cut off the supply of blue fuel through the Yamal-Europe trunk pipeline through Poland. Earlier it was reported that the cost of fuel exceeded $ 1700 per thousand cubic meters.

In the heat of a heated discussion, the Poles expressed extreme displeasure with the whole situation, especially criticizing the current government and the ruling party PiS (Law and Justice).


We have nothing to worry about, because we have cheap gas from the LNG complex named after Lech Kaczynski, which [...] will bring Russia to its knees

- mockingly reminded abcdefghij.

I see, but it would be nice to clarify:

- whether Gazprom is fulfilling its contractual obligations for gas supplies to Poland,
- whether Gazprom is fulfilling its contractual obligations for gas supplies to the EU.

I do not want to shield the Russians, but if Gazprom fulfills the supply contracts, and there is not enough gas, then the claims against the buyers

- comments jk0059.

Well, Russia is fulfilling its contracts, and nothing more. And gas is supplied to the spot market or not, depending on the mood. Thus, Russia uses prices, demonstrating to Europe that for that “free gas market” is an expensive fantasy, and only long-term contracts with Russia pay off. As Putin made clear, the Kremlin's goal is agreements like this

- answers kuba_wu.

Poland at PiS rose from its knees. But the EU does not give money, and Russia does not give gas.

- noticed 25czis.

At the end of March 2020, PGNiG (Poland's state oil and gas company) announced that it had defeated Gazprom in the Stockholm Arbitration Court, having achieved a change in the price formula. The revision concerned supplies from the beginning of 2014, and Gazprom returned the $ 1,5 billion "overpayment" while still hoping to appeal the court's decision. Well, we now have spot prices

- stated turbosceptyk.

And where is that $ 1,5 billion; After all, that is our money paid for gas?

- asked klisza.

Stolen and divided long ago

- replies to the previous user Mangoś.

I do not understand what the author is complaining about [of the publication about the rise in prices]. As a result, Russia is fulfilling all the agreements. And "additional supplies" is only a matter of her goodwill!

- Lealola responded.

PiSovtsy tore their throats, swearing that they had a lot of gas and they no longer needed Russian - now they are looking for an excuse for the price hike for the Poles by 50%. This is mediocre and anti-national policy... Where can I get the money to cover the next price spikes caused by these liars' failures? I invested in gas heating - well then, should I switch to wood again? I live near the forest, I can cut a little there, but I hate theft. Unfortunately, PiSovtsy will force Poles to break laws in order to survive

- indignant loveTemida.
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  1. drown dung, psheki (help: dung is dried cow shit)
    1. Oder Offline Oder
      Oder (Wojciech) 21 December 2021 13: 32
      They don't sow fools, they themselves are born!
      1. Ulysses Online Ulysses
        Ulysses (Alexey) 21 December 2021 23: 29
        Fools believe in an honest market economy.
        Europe has built LNG terminals based on American gas.
        Which Asia now enjoys with pleasure.

        Business, nothing personal. smile
      2. that is, they do not become fools, are they born?
    2. Gadley Offline Gadley
      Gadley 2 February 2022 15: 07
      dung is not only cow shit. Psheks have accumulated a lot of shit for 30 years, it's time to burn it. may be wiser.
  2. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 21 December 2021 14: 11
    ... I live near the forest, I can cut a little there, but I hate theft.

    We'll have to love. Or re-elect the government, stupidly pursuing Russia
    1. alexey alexeyev_2 (Alexey Alekseev) 21 December 2021 14: 32
      Siberia is not overseas .. Let them come and buy laughing .By the way, you can collect deadwood here ..
  3. dub0vitsky Offline dub0vitsky
    dub0vitsky (Victor) 21 December 2021 15: 37
    Quote: alexey alexeyev_2
    Siberia is not overseas .. Let them come and buy laughing .By the way, you can collect deadwood here ..

    Why is this privilege to them? Near them the Carpathians. Let them cooperate with their brothers in Banderstan's conviction and continue to cut down. Enough for a long time. Do you think that psheks will be more accurate than the Chinese? I think it's even worse. They will take revenge, for the whole history behind and for the future ahead.
  4. Peter Nikolov Offline Peter Nikolov
    Peter Nikolov (Peter Nikolov) 21 December 2021 15: 38
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  5. boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 21 December 2021 19: 26
    In Latvia, the rise in prices for gas and electricity led to a rise in prices for firewood and briquettes by 70%. This is about ten days ago.
    I wish the Poles strong optimism.
    1. you need to drown with dung, KIZYAKI!!!
    2. Oder Offline Oder
      Oder (Wojciech) 22 December 2021 16: 27
      Poland has one of the highest coal seams in Europe. Enough for us for 250 years. We don't need to burn with wood.
      1. boriz Offline boriz
        boriz (boriz) 22 December 2021 22: 14
        First, you have to pay fines of 500 euros per day for coal. You do not pay them, therefore, the EU will not give you the money you expected. And, ultimately (in conjunction with the introduction of legislation that contradicts EU norms), you will be kicked out of the EU.
        Secondly, gas can not be replaced with coal everywhere. Only at those thermal and power plants where the burners are designed for this. To remake them - only after the heating season.
        Gas cannot be replaced in production. These are industries related to metal processing (rolled metal products, etc.), fertilizer production, chemical production, food production. For example, bakery and confectionery products (especially caramel) production will rise in price significantly.
        Greenhouses, Ukraine started buying cucumbers from the "aggressor" of the Russian Federation. And the eggs are in the possession of the illegitimate tyrant Lukashenka. Moreover, no one turns to the "legitimate" Tikhanovskaya for eggs. But you gave her the crust of the President of Belarus ...
  6. Yuri Alexeev Offline Yuri Alexeev
    Yuri Alexeev (Yuri Alekseev) 21 December 2021 22: 50
    Type of firewood will not rise in price. when everyone rushes to buy them.
  7. Nord11 Offline Nord11
    Nord11 (Sergei) 22 December 2021 01: 50
    Well, I know the Poles. They will procure firewood in Ukraine, they will save their forests ..