Ukraine has put in order almost all of its MiG-29

December 16 2021

Over the past 7 years, from the end of 2014 to the end of 2021, the Lviv State Aircraft Repair Plant has repaired almost all light MiG-29 fighters that are in service with the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. At the same time, LGARZ postponed the completion of state tests of the MiG-29MU2 to 2022. The head of the state-owned enterprise Dmitry Matrunchik spoke about this in an interview with the ArmyInform portal.

The functionary noted that flight tests of the MiG-2020MU29 were successfully completed in 2. In 2021, state tests of this modification of the fighter began, but they did not have time to finish them until the end, so the Armed Forces of Ukraine will receive these combat aircraft next year.

The aircraft will have improved protective equipment (a new complex of jamming), audio and video registration systems and an electronic control panel for the onboard radio station. The aircraft will navigate and land using signals from GLONASS / GPS satellites and VOR / DME and ILS beacons. It will be possible to launch air-to-surface missiles and use guided aerial bombs. The range of means of destruction will expand with ammunition with television homing heads. The MiG-29MU2 is used as the basis for the MiG-29MU1.

Matrunchik clarified that over the past years LGARZ has modernized "more than 10 MiG-29 units", and in total the Armed Forces have received "almost 40 aircraft" MiG-29, including 5 combat training MiG-29UB. He stressed that the company complies with the Decree of the President of Ukraine dated June 16, 2016 No. 240/2016, implementing its own import substitution program, so as not to depend on the supply of equipment, components and materials from Russia.

We remind you that recently the FlightGlobal publication reported the number of combat aircraft in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. It turned out that Kiev has only 43 MiG-29 units of various versions, 12 front-line Su-24 bombers, 17 Su-25 attack aircraft and 26 Su-27 heavy fighters. In this regard, we can conclude that Ukraine really brought its MiG-29s, inherited from the USSR, into relative order.

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steelmaker 16 December 2021 18: 16

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In fact, the Russian Aerospace Forces in 2020 received a total of 14 new combat aircraft (10 Su-35S and four Su-34) - such a low level of deliveries was the last time a decade ago, the expert continues. And by the end of 2021, this figure may be even less. For comparison: in the mid-90s, about 40 vehicles were delivered a year, a source close to the Ministry of Defense indicates. The new contracts signed in 2019–2020 are much smaller and provide for the delivery by 2027 of about 150 new combat aircraft, including 76 fifth-generation Su-57 fighters. Their production is just starting to unfold,

https://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/articles/2021/08/10/881601-postavki-aviatsii
And here they laugh at Ukraine. I’m wondering, those who admire Putin, do they, besides TV, watch or read something else?
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  Orange bigg (Alexander ) 16 December 2021 18: 41
  
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  For those who are in the tank. The American edition of Forbes about the Russian Aerospace Forces. Forbes counted combat aircraft and helicopters of the Russian Aerospace Forces. Combat efficiency has increased, the number has decreased.
  
  According to the analyst, from 2009 to 2020, the Russian Armed Forces received approximately 460 new combat aircraft, 110 combat training aircraft, as well as 360 attack helicopters. In addition, 320 previously released aircraft were modernized, including about 150 high-altitude MiG-31 interceptors, as well as a significant number of front-line Su-24 bombers, Su-25 attack aircraft, Su-27 fighters and Su-33 carrier-based aircraft.
  
  The renewal of the Aerospace Forces fleet, according to the author, began after the unsuccessful actions of the Russian aviation in the operation to force Georgia to peace in August 2008, which were the result of the decline of military aviation after the collapse of the Union in 1991.
  
  The Russian Air Force decommissioned more than a thousand old single-engine MiG-23 and MiG-27 aircraft. If in 2000 the Air Force had about 2000 combat aircraft, today there are 1200 of them. The number of attack helicopters has decreased from 700 to 400. At the same time, the author concludes, the combat effectiveness of military aviation has increased, since new aircraft and helicopters are much more efficient than old machines. ...
  
  75% of the combat aircraft of the Aerospace Forces are new or upgraded. They have more advanced avionics and navigation aids, high-precision weapons, and effective means of overcoming air defense.
  
  Since 2009, purchased 12 Su-27SM3, 134 Su-30SM and Su-30SM2, 88 Su-35S, 127 front-line bombers Su-34, 1 Su-57, 50 MiG-29SMT and MiG-29UB, 24 shipborne fighters MiG- 29K, 2 MiG-35, 1 Tu-160.
  
  The army aviation fleet has been renewed. The army received new attack helicopters Mi-28N "Night Hunter" and Mi-28NM, Ka-52 "Alligator" instead of the outdated Mi-24.
  
  The publication predicts that the Russian Aerospace Forces will continue to purchase improved 4th generation aircraft Su-35S, Su-30SM2, Su-34. He called the MiG-35 project, which continues the line of MiG-29 light fighters, less promising.
  
  In addition, according to Nersisyan, the Russian Aerospace Forces will continue to modernize long-range aircraft Tu-95MSM and Tu-22M3M. They will receive long-range cruise missiles for strikes from a safe distance. The production of the Tu-160MS will continue, of which several dozen have been ordered by the Aerospace Forces.
  
  The analyst believes that the promising strategic aircraft and high-altitude interceptor of the new generation MiG-41 are unlikely to be ready before 2030.
  
  https://www.mk.ru/politics/2021/01/11/forbes-podschital-boevye-samolety-i-vertolety-vks-rossii.html
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    gunnerminer (gunner miner) 17 December 2021 09: 59
    
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    Laughing and sewing hats, model 1905, is not difficult. It is much more difficult to arrange the serial production of aircraft. Not with homeopathic doses, like the KLA. The war with Japan began with hats, ended with a revolution. The Afghan adventure began with plans "to camp in the field, to scare dushmans" ended the collapse of the USSR.
    
    In addition, according to Nersisyan, the Russian Aerospace Forces will continue to modernize long-range aircraft Tu-95MSM and Tu-22M3M. They will receive long-range cruise missiles for strikes from a safe distance. The production of the Tu-160MS will continue, of which several dozen have been ordered by the Aerospace Forces.
    
    Lies for prostitutes. Ordering does not mean automatically fulfilling. Moreover, within a reasonable time frame for the customer. The order was cut to 20 aircraft, then cut to 10. But in reality they will make 5, at best. there are only 95 machines to upgrade the Tu-22M3. You repeat like a parrot, other people's thoughts.
    
    Since 2009, purchased 12 Su-27SM3, 134 Su-30SM and Su-30SM2, 88 Su-35S, 127 front-line bombers Su-34, 1 Su-57, 50 MiG-29SMT and MiG-29UB, 24 shipborne fighters MiG- 29K, 2 MiG-35, 1 Tu-160.
    
    This is minuscule, even by the standards of peacetime. Especially in 10 years. The first aircraft are already time for capital, especially after the former SAR.
    
    75% of the combat aircraft of the Aerospace Forces are new or upgraded. They have more advanced avionics and navigation aids, high-precision weapons, and effective means of overcoming air defense.
    
    Where is 75% ??
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      boriz (boriz) 17 December 2021 11: 21
      
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      It is enough that no one twitches at us.
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        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 17 December 2021 12: 09
        
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        Chechnya twitched. Georgia twitched. They paid off from Chechnya. They did not dare to beat the Georgians properly, they won because of the low moral qualities of the Georgians. Educate about the war 080808.
        
        https://shabdua.livejournal.com/8336812.html
        
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        boriz (boriz) 17 December 2021 12: 12
        
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        Even after Georgia, 13 years have passed. Since then, there have been enough reasons to twitch. But, it seems, they didn’t like it, they don’t twitch anymore.
        
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        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 17 December 2021 12: 15
        
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        Since then, there have been enough reasons to twitch.
        
        The Turks shot down more than one Russian aircraft. A year ago, the crew of the Mi-24. The helicopter was left without electronic warfare equipment, without ammunition. Despite the proximity of the front. Not like at MAKS or at the Army forum.
        
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        boriz (boriz) 17 December 2021 12: 16
        
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        Turkey is alive, for now, a corpse.
        
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        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 17 December 2021 12: 23
        
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        But it thwarted Gazprom's attempts to dictate gas prices. It canceled the efforts of cosmonauts on the Syrian bridgehead. It climbed into the Transcaucasia and the South Caucasus. Forced the Russian Foreign Ministry to go to the creation of a Russian-Turkish observation center. Having stuffed it with NATO scouts. Forced to build a nuclear power plant for free. summer loan ZRS-20.
        
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        boriz (boriz) 17 December 2021 12: 36
        
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        But it thwarted Gazprom's attempts to dictate gas prices
        
        It seems like winter is already, but you are getting worse ...
        Yesterday in Europe prices broke through $ 1 again. Is it not enough? SP500 has already paid off (instead of 2 years as planned) without pumping a single cubic meter of gas!
        
        Zeroed the efforts of astronauts at the Syrian bridgehead.
        
        How is this expressed? And what, in your opinion, is the purpose of the Russian Federation in Syria?
        
        Forced the Russian Foreign Ministry to agree to the creation of a Russian-Turkish observatory center.
        
        The World Bank tried to unleash a war in the Caucasus with the hands of Erdogan. Did not work out. Russia has expanded its presence in the Caucasus.
        
        She made me build a nuclear power plant for free, received a 20-year loan for ZRS-400.
        
        Russia built your own Nuclear power plant in Turkey. And she vparized air defense systems that will shoot down American planes and will not be able to shoot down Russian ones.
        But this is not all for Erdogan, who is on the hook with the WB. In the next elections, the leader will change. But whether the country will withstand the change of power and all politics is a big question.
        Most likely no.
        
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        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 17 December 2021 16: 18
        
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        It seems like winter is already, but you are getting worse ...
        Yesterday in Europe prices broke through $ 1 again. Is it not enough? SP500 has already paid off (instead of 2 years as planned) without pumping a single cubic meter of gas!
        
        Yes, even for $ 10. Gazprom managers see the lost profit of the empty SP-000, while the zamkadniks are neither cold nor hot.
        
        How is this expressed? And what, in your opinion, is the purpose of the Russian Federation in Syria?
        
        For December 2021, the goal of staying in the former SAR is to preserve face. After the failure of the 2015 tasks. In 2015, the goal was to force the Turks to buy gas at Gazprom prices. And to use 4 pipes of the Turkish stream, built at the expense of Russia. To create a mechanism of pressure on the EU, in order to solve the problems of the LDNR.
        
        The World Bank tried to unleash a war in the Caucasus with the hands of Erdogan. Did not work out. Russia has expanded its presence in the Caucasus.
        
        The WB reached its plan. The war was unleashed. The ceasefire did not suit Armenia, Azerbaijan, Turkey. The war was suspended. NATO appeared in the South Caucasus. Russia, having deployed a peacekeeping battalion of light infantry along 300 km of the intestine, did not solve any problems. Useful for a strike or for defense. It can only supply peacekeepers with a rather feeble air transport that is losing a resource. By coordinating flights. Mobilization in Russia was not announced. The number of the aircraft is unchanged. So there is no expansion. Neither along nor across. As a bonus, the unpunished destruction of the crew of the next aircraft.
        
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        boriz (boriz) 17 December 2021 16: 54
        
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        Yes, even for $ 10. Gazprom managers see the lost profit of the empty SP-000, while the zamkadniks are neither cold nor hot.
        
        First, don't wag your back. This is not appropriate. I refuted your argument that Turkey does not allow Gazprom to dictate prices. You moved out.
        Secondly, Gazprom pays dividends to the state.
        Third, Russia (together with the United States) will continue to keep energy prices. The fertilizer producers are already stopping (for those who have bad relations with Russia). The prices for fertilizers and food will rise .. Production will be transferred to Russia. Together with technology.
        
        For December 2021, the purpose of staying in the former SAR is to portray face saving.
        
        While the Russian Federation and the United States provide a moderate level of tension in the northeast and east of Syria, the gas pipeline from the Persian Gulf, whether Iranian or Qatari, will not pass through Turkey to Europe. Both Russia and the United States will keep the gas and coal prices they need. And suckers like you will be animatedly discussing the struggle of the Nanai boys, especially started for them.
        I already wrote to you about the war: fight with pilaf. This is for you.
        
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        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 17 December 2021 17: 39
        
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        First, don't wag your back. This is not appropriate. I refuted your argument that Turkey does not allow Gazprom to dictate prices. You moved out.
        Secondly, Gazprom pays dividends to the state.
        
        The Turks cut the price of gas from Gazprom threefold. Dividends are paid by Gazprom managers to foreign co-founders and shareholders.
        
        Third, Russia (together with the United States) will continue to keep energy prices.
        
        The United States has never partnered with Russia in the gas business. Lukashenko asks Putin for $ 3.5 billion. As all financial institutions refuse him loans. Another parasite on the neck of Gazprom.
        
        Production will be transferred to Russia. Together with technology.
        
        This idea has already shaved four beards.
        
        a moderate level of tension, a gas pipeline from the Persian Gulf, whether Iranian or Qatari, will not pass through Turkey to Europe.
        
        This is the well-known bullshit about the Qatari gas pipeline. Qatar has a rather large gas carrier fleet, which the owners of SCF cannot even dream of.
        
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        boriz (boriz) 17 December 2021 17: 50
        
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        This is the well-known bullshit about the Qatari gas pipeline. Qatar has a rather large gas carrier fleet, which the owners of SCF cannot even dream of.
        
        I'm talking about a gas pipeline. Qatar brought a lot of LNG to Europe?
        
        This idea has already shaved four beards.
        
        There are already enough production facilities in the Russian Federation, with a high degree of localization. But energy resources have risen so much only now.
        
        The US has never partnered with Russia in the gas business.
        
        So it seems. When you look at the real facts, the interaction is obvious. Where would the prices be in Europe if a gas pipeline from the Persian Gulf were to go there? The volumes there are not Shah Deniz. But the gas pipeline won't go through. And LNG supplies are small splashes.
        
        The Turks have tripled the price of gas from Gazprom.
        
        Make it clearer.
        
        Dividends are paid by Gazprom managers to foreign co-founders and shareholders.
        
        RF is a shareholder of Gazprom.
        
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        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 17 December 2021 18: 02
        
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        I'm talking about a gas pipeline. Qatar brought a lot of LNG to Europe?
        
        Nobody planned to pull the gas pipeline through the former SAR. Here it is important that any gas pipeline runs into the sea - either the Mediterranean or the Black. So what is next?
        There are two options: either pull along the bottom across the sea to Europe or install liquefaction plants.
        Liquefy? But why then a gas pipeline? You can also liquefy on the spot. Actually, this has been done for a long time.
        The problem of growing supplies of methane, especially Qatari methane, to Europe is known. However, it is already known that such deliveries in January-April 2021 alone increased by 15%, with 60% of this increase again accounted for by Qatar. The Qatari company QPG, shortly before the pandemic, managed to conclude contracts in Japan and South Korea for the construction of over 2020 low- and medium-power LNG tankers in 2026-80. And this is in addition to the 55 already available in Qatar. In Qatar, the preference has always been given to liquefied methane, since the pipes are pulled too far, and they will pass through not the most calm regions. Gas carriers can run as long as they want - the main thing is that there is enough capacity to receive the liquefied methane. The global demand for methane has grown exponentially since the early 70s, and today it competes successfully with the demand for pipeline gas.
        Qatari gas is a lever for further, moreover, multilateral political and economic pressure on Gazprom. Moreover, liquefied gas is a very real lever, which, moreover, is a duet with the American one, and pipeline gas is still only potential. Addicted to the whims of the United States.
        
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        boriz (boriz) 17 December 2021 18: 19
        
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        Nobody planned to pull the gas pipeline through the former SAR. Here it is important that any gas pipeline runs into the sea - either the Mediterranean or the Black. So what is next?
        
        I am sorry to upset you, but on the map there is such a country as Turkey, and in Turkey - the Bosphorus and Dardanelles. And the Sea of Marmara is very small. The Turks sleep and see another gas pipeline going through them. And not such a pussy as TAP / TANAP, but something serious.
        Then prices in Europe will fall below the level of the city's sewerage system and will pull LNG with them. And then, for sure, no one will wait for LNG from the United States in Europe.
        And why do the Russian Federation and the United States need it?
        The Russian Federation and the United States have competently played suckers all over the world. The US needs money now. Russia also needs non-oil money. Therefore, the Russian Federation did not begin to pedal the rise in oil prices (it doesn’t care yet, because of the cutoff of $ 42, the rest of the money goes to the NWF), and in the United States, the prices of gasoline and solarium did not skyrocket. And the USA and the Russian Federation are selling gas together at a fun price.
        
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        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 17 December 2021 19: 25
        
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        You spoke about a pipe from Qatar through the former SAR. If the RAM is so-so, take notes.
        
        And then, for sure, no one will wait for LNG from the United States in Europe.
        
        The United States will force them to buy their own methane. Initially, the gamble with SP-1, SP-2, TP was obvious. Someone should support Ukraine, but not NATO countries.
        
        The Russian Federation and the United States have competently played suckers all over the world.
        
        The United States has exposed Russia as a sucker. With the help of our diplomats, special appointees. We have to pay for false ambitions with the support of Belarus, Kyrgyzstan, Armenia, the North Caucasus (all projects grunted because of the unlimited local theft), Dagestan, PMR.
        
        Only liquefied methane. Gazprom does not deal with spot deals in petroleum gases.
        
        Therefore, the Russian Federation did not begin to pedal the rise in oil prices (it does not care yet, because of the cutoff of $ 42, the rest of the money goes to the NWF),
        
        They don't work for the development of the economy. Dead money. The mechanism of investment for 30 years, the catchers of CIA agents, have not worked.
        
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        boriz (boriz) 17 December 2021 19: 52
        
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        You spoke about a pipe from Qatar through the former SAR. If the RAM is so-so, take notes.
        
        What are you speaking about? Say no to drugs. Try to master this text.
        https://geoenergetics.ru/2016/08/12/sirijskij-konflikt-s-tochki-zreniya-geoekonomiki/
        
        Liquefied methane only. Gazprom is not involved in spot deals in oil gases.
        
        What is this nonsense? Whose methane? Why is Gazprom not engaged in spot transactions? What does oil gases have to do with it?
        
        The US will force them to buy their own methane.
        
        And no one bothers them. They sold their 47 billion in a year. Their share. The rest goes to Asia. They have 80 - 90 billion a year. Everything. A couple of years ago, Marzhetsky was proved for a long time, he also threatened everything that the United States would bury Gazprom. Now you are awake. Funny, by God.
        
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        boriz (boriz) 17 December 2021 19: 56
        
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        Initially, the gamble with SP-1, SP-2, TP was obvious.
        
        For whom? And where is the gamble? SP1 is working, SP2 has paid for itself, TP is working. What problems?
        
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        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 17 December 2021 21: 29
        
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        SP2 paid for itself,
        
        Commercial gas does not flow through SP-2. Another trick of the propagandists for this.
        
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        boriz (boriz) 17 December 2021 22: 37
        
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        No, the hysteria inflated around SP2 has raised gas prices to the skies. And the profits of Gazprom covered the cost of sp2 for the past fall. Commercial gas is no longer needed.
        Just compare prices from last year and current ones.
        
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        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 18 December 2021 09: 42
        
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        Commercial gas does not flow through SP-2. Lost profit is damage.
        
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        boriz (boriz) 17 December 2021 22: 48
        
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        In July-September, the Russian company has already reported a net profit of 582 billion rubles, in the fourth quarter it expects "even more impressive" results.
        
        Costs for JV2 - less than $ 5 billion /
        
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        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 18 December 2021 09: 45
        
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        For this money, you can build an aircraft carrier with an air wing, train crews, build a berbase and a group of escort ships. This is how Gazprom caused damage to the Russian treasury. Analysts and forecasters of Gazprom missed the intentions of the German side, the main buyer of Russian gas.

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boriz (boriz) 17 December 2021 13: 11

I beg your pardon, yesterday the gas price at TTF did not break through 1, but 500 dollars per 1 cubic meters of gas. It is, of course, Turkey's fault.

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Turkey is consistently realizing its plans. Russia is forced to dance to the Turkish tune, periodically getting slapped and trailing in the tail of events.
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Turkey will die one of these days or sooner. Have you seen the course of the lyre?
At the beginning of Erdogan's rule (August 2014), the lira was worth 47 or 46 US cents. Today it is 5,9 cents. And recently, the lyre has just been at its peak.
And after today's fall, the Istanbul Stock Exchange stopped trading.
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Turkey will die one of these days or sooner. Have you seen the course of the lyre?

The exchange rate of the lira is always unstable. For 20 years, the ruble has dropped by half. Currently, Erdogan is devaluing the Turkish lira in order to establish a positive trade balance. If he succeeds in doing this, Turkey can avoid turning to the International Monetary Fund (IMF) for a loan. High inflation is the price he is willing to pay for it. Erdogan achieved permanent devaluation of the lira, effectively lowering the unit labor costs in Turkey, thereby making Turkish workers more competitive than Germans. This is what economists call the beggar-thy-neighbor policy. Turks can work abroad. Russians cannot. Financial investors may dump assets in lira, but with a weaker lira, Turkish goods do become more competitive domestically and in European markets, and Turkey is indeed becoming a more attractive destination for foreign direct investment for global manufacturing companies looking to lower unit labor costs. ...
The logic is hardly new. Americans have long argued that China is interfering in foreign exchange markets to make Chinese goods more competitive. The same accusation was leveled against the Japanese when Japan threatened to become number one. It is nothing new here for a midsize country to seek a weaker currency to become more competitive. Indeed, Turkish exports have responded enthusiastically.
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For 20 years, the ruble exchange rate has dropped by half.

So what? The ruble has doubled in 2014-15. And it hasn't changed much since then.
And the lyre has dropped by half in a year and continues to fall. In 01.01.2008. the lira was worth 88 US cents, and today it is 5,9 cents. What time is it?
Today in Istanbul there are queues for bread, like in the Mausoleum in the USSR. https://t.me/MIrvMomente/8876
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Putin had to take Belarus for rations. Senior partners would not let the Turks go to waste, and Russia, thanks to Lavrov's efforts, does not even have reliable companions. The situation is aggravated by Turkey's dependence on oil and (so far) gas supplies, as well as many other types of raw materials and a fairly high level of debt burden of banks and companies in foreign currency (this is already reminiscent of our stories before 2008). If the Turkish lira falls further, this turn of events could trigger a crisis in emerging markets. Panic and serious troubles in one area will lead to capital outflows in the markets of other developing countries - Brazil and Russia. The fact is that the same participants work for them: Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan, Morgan Stanley and other players with multibillion-dollar portfolios. Investors are behind their funds. The Turkish lira is starting to collapse - funds are beginning to sell off across the entire spectrum of assets in emerging markets. The psychology of investors is understandable: a person was told that jellyfish are found in the Red Sea, so he does not enter another sea - he is afraid, while Russia has black holes in the PMR, Abkhazia, Dagestan, the Republic of the North Caucasus, Belarus. in Southeast Asia: the Thai baht and other currencies plummeted, leading to a massive crisis in Russia.
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And Russia, through the efforts of Lavrov, does not even have reliable companions.

Russia does not need fellow travelers, it is the leader of the zone.
And you lead the discussion like a woman. I smashed your argument, and you drive the blizzard to the side. Answer my argument first. Your fabrications are not interesting.
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If I were a leader, with Ukraine and others, I would have figured it out quickly, I would not allow myself to muzzle the Minsk agreements. There are no leaders without a modern fleet and aviation, with a resource-based rental economy.
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boriz (boriz) 17 December 2021 19: 18

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And what should be done with Ukraine, O great statesman?
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They missed their time. They hoped for the old fool Chernomyrdin, then for the young fool Zurabov. Career hereditary graduates of MGIMO were distributed in the USA, Canada, the South Caucasus, the EU. foreign policy.
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boriz (boriz) 17 December 2021 19: 59

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That is, you don't know anything.

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tulip 17 December 2021 15: 21

I understand that you are not in the know in Ukraine, but I advise you to buy tickets and go to Turkey to the families of the dead military and special forces. Russia, after the downing of the plane, only destroyed about 100 selected Turkish special forces)))) After all the dirty tricks that Turkey did, she answered in full - for each killed Russian the Turks paid with a hundred of their own))) You are not told about this - and rightly so - you must die without hesitation)))
And the pipe, the nuclear power plant and so on - it all goes on as usual. Russia has money from this, but for every Russian killed, Turkey pays a hundred of its own)))

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steelmaker 17 December 2021 20: 00

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the Turks paid for each killed Russian with a hundred of their own)))

Since the beginning of Russia's military operation in Syria, at least 120 people have died.

https://www.rbc.ru/politics/15/03/2021/58457c589a79473fa152c4a2
Something I have not heard about the thousands of Turkish soldiers killed. Even the Arab media.
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  well, so googled - hundreds of photos on the internet are still there))) and this is just a photo of ordinary soldiers who died from airstrikes of Russian aerospace forces) But you mriy further and jump higher - why do you need the truth. Mriy that Russia is weak, that Sevastopol is Ukrainian and you are holding a Bandera parade there, mriy is like driving into the Kremlin on a tank and killing the mulion of Russian Pskov paratroopers))) Mriy and ride)))
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  Ambulances continue to arrive at a hospital in the Turkish city of Reyhanli, on the border with Syria
  
  Representatives of the Turkish opposition Republican People's Party traveled to Hatay province after reports that dozens of Turkish soldiers were killed and wounded in Idlib.
  
  Twitter turned off in Turkey. As part of the fight against the spread of news about the deaths of Turkish troops, the national provider Turk Telekom has closed access to the social network.
  
  Turkey has so far officially recognized 9 killed, but Turkish social networks are discussing numbers from 37 (minimum) to 85+ (maximum), and taking into account the wounded, the maximum number of those killed and wounded is 130-150
  
  And this is only part of the answer in 2018)))

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steelmaker 17 December 2021 19: 49

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American edition of Forbes about the RF Aerospace Forces.

How is it necessary not to be on friendly terms with the head to refer to such a publication?

Forbes is an American financial and economic magazine, one of the most authoritative and well-known economic publications in the world. Founded on September 15 in 1917 by Bertie Charles Forbes. The slogan of the magazine is "The Capitalist Tool". Wikipedia
Circulation: 669 672 (2019)
Chief Editor: Steve Forbes
Established: September 15, 1917
Print ISSN: 0015-6914
Periodicity: 14 editions per year
Publisher: The Forbes
Country: USA Steve Forbes is the Chief Editor of Forbes USA.

And now according to the information:

According to the analyst, from 2009 to 2020, the Russian Armed Forces received approximately 460 new combat aircraft, 110 combat training aircraft, as well as 360 attack helicopters. If in 2000 the Air Force had about 2000 combat aircraft, today there are 1200 of them. The number of attack helicopters has dropped from 700 to 400

For 11 years 460 new combat aircraft !!! And what are these new planes.
SU-27 1984. SU-33 1994. SU-30 1992. SU-25 1981. MIG-29 1983. MIG-31 1982 SU-30MKI 2002 They are all modernized. The new ones are SU-34 - 127 units since 2014, SU-30SM - 134 units since 2009, SU -35 - 88 units. MIG-35 - 2 pcs. Total 351pcs in 11 years! There were 2000 planes, now 1200. Minus 800 planes !! Now explain to me why the Americans shouldn't be delighted with such achievements of Russia? EBN spoke at the Congress and applauded him standing up! And what, you too EBN as an example, will you refer to it?

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Ulysses (Alexey) 16 December 2021 18: 48

I’m wondering, those who admire Putin, do they, besides TV, watch or read something else?

in total, Ukraine can fly just over 100 combat aircraft. And what can Russia oppose to this "threat"? Recently American edition of Forbes answered this question.
the publication reported that from 2009 to 2020, the Russian Aerospace Forces received approximately 460 new combat aircraft, including the Su-35S, Su-30SM2, Su-34, 110 Yak-130 combat training aircraft, as well as 360 attack helicopters, including Mi-28N "Night Hunter", Ka-52 "Alligator".
And that's not all. Another 320 previously produced aircraft, including about 150 high-altitude interceptors MiG-31, as well as Su-24M, Su-25SMT, Su-27SM fighters and Su-33 carrier-based aircraft, underwent deep modernization with the replacement of on-board equipment, engines and weapons.

Today, the Russian Aerospace Forces includes 1200 combat aircraft and 400 attack helicopters.

That is the quantitative ratio of the Ukrainian Air Force and Russian combat aviation is approximately 1 to 10. And this not to mention the quality of technology or the training of pilots. Russian pilots have an average annual flight time several times higher than Ukrainian pilots, which do not have enough kerosene for training flights.

The Ukrainian BBC simply has no chance.

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gunnerminer (gunner miner) 17 December 2021 12: 10

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They threatened to take more caps of the 1905 model. Grozny threatened to take one regiment of the Airborne Forces in a couple of hours. But they fought for 10 years. And then they paid off with money.
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  tulip 17 December 2021 15: 22
  
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  you Ukrainians in 2014 threatened to give your life for Crimea and destroy the entire Russian army, and what?)))
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  Ulysses (Alexey) 17 December 2021 23: 38
  
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  They threatened to take more caps of the 1905 model. Grozny threatened to take one regiment of the Airborne Forces in a couple of hours. But they fought for 10 years. And then they paid off with money.
  
  The epic of the Americans in Afghanistan eclipsed Grachev by several orders of magnitude.
  Fuck twenty years of occupation in a couple of weeks, this is aerobatics ..
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    The drape of the Americans put the Russian Defense Ministry in front of an unbearable task of protecting the southern borders. Of the 9 thousand military personnel of 201 bases in Tajikistan, 8 thousand are hired from local citizens. Another contingent that is not distinguished by prohibitive loyalty to the Russian flag. Service for money. In case of a negative scenario, they will shoot in the backs of their commanders.

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Face (Alexander Lik) 16 December 2021 20: 37

Old and somehow uncommunicated junk. Do you read anything other than ukrosmi?

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Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 17 December 2021 07: 53

You work shitty! It is your fault.
Instead of melting metal, you thump, write g .. comments, and try to be clever, in an alcoholic delirium.
And these lazy mediocrities, then tell us how to run the state.

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boriz (boriz) 17 December 2021 11: 12

Putin decided that this number of aircraft is enough for him at the moment. Didn't ask you? Well, it's a shame, of course ...
As for old technology, things are very sad in the United States. Mass write-offs began. https://ria.ru/20211214/aviatsiya-1763506578.html This is about airplanes.
The US Navy wanted to decommission 7 Ticonderoga-class cruisers. They didn’t allow it, they will write off only 5. And what is going to be replaced? Misunderstandings like Zumvolt?
And this is just the beginning. Let's see what remains at the Pentagon in the bottom line, after all the write-offs. Siuation has been difficult for a long time. Even Conolisa Rice, in her memo, wrote to Bush Jr. that in order to ensure the serviceability of military equipment, other aircraft / ships had to be disassembled. Cannibalism of technology.
And flaws can be found anywhere. If you bought more military equipment, you would start squealing that pensioners are starving (and that would be true). For now, Putin has to balance on the brink.

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zenion (zinovy) 18 December 2021 19: 39

steelmaker. To put in order is to cut your nails, cut your hair, wipe it with a wet sponge and put on fishnet panties, after inserting a new elastic band. Patch holes in them so that they look like new from a hundred meters. Then the plane will shine, after the fat, like new.

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Orange bigg (Alexander ) 16 December 2021 18: 27

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Ukraine has put in order almost all of its MiG-29

Like your enemies tremble?

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Count our tiny (taking into account the size of military districts, and their operational zones, and at the same time fleets) Air. Old aircraft. Without radar with AFAR, without composites, with old ammunition. Without reconnaissance, without electronic warfare aircraft, without AWACS and U complexes, almost without refueling tankers, especially without strategic ones, based on the Il-96-400T.
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  tulip 17 December 2021 15: 23
  
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  and what are your tiny Air Force coming out to count?)))

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Valentine (Valentin) 16 December 2021 18: 32

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In the same way, the whole of Europe after the 33rd year, and the defeat of the Weimar Republic, laughed and mocked at Germany, which was forbidden by the Brest-Litovsk Peace to have its own army, but after coming to power in 1933, Hitler created and re-equipped the Wehrmacht with the latest weapons, tanks, in five years. ships, submarines, and already by 1939 occupied all of Europe, forcing all of its military potential to work for itself, and at its expense increased the quantitative composition of its army, and we all know what happened on June 22, 1941, so we began to joke early on the Ukronazis -they follow the path of Nazi Germany, and in five years or so they may well attack Russia, in collusion with the Poles, Georgians and the Balts, these scum of the current EU. History does not teach us anything, neither the German troops then, nor the NATO troops are now at our borders, and we only shake our fingers at this and worry. Well, come on, they know better there, from the Kremlin.

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  How old are you, Sasha, that you are carrying such nonsense. If you have enough age, and memory too, then compare the Armed Forces of the times of 2014-2015 and today, which is taught by NATO military experts, and even all of Europe is arming it, like Nazi Germany used to be For eight years, their army has significantly strengthened and armed itself, and the "enlightened" Ukrainian youth for thirty years already up to forty years old and more, fiercely hate Russia and the Russians, and are completely motivated to fight the Russian "occupiers", and such an overwhelming majority among residents of the independent, and if you also count those who are sitting in Russia under the guise of "migrant workers", of whom we have more than four million, and if even every tenth for "Glory to Ukraine", then this is 400 thousand inveterate Bandera people in our country, with their long-prepared caches of weapons and ammunition, which, during some clashes between Ukraine and Russia, can bring a huge number of troubles and grief to our country, as they did on the eve of the 1941 war, special teams from "Brandenburg-800" strategic enterprises, bridges, railway stations, hydroelectric power plants, thermal power plants, railway interconnections, etc., etc., so that "Do not boast, going to the army, but boast when you go from the army."
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    Yury Siritsky (Yuri Siritsky) 17 December 2021 14: 18
    
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    There is too much panic in your comment. So it can be assumed that there is a fifth pro-Russian column in Ukraine too.
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      The fact of the matter is that in Russia it is not so much the "fifth column" that is being acquired, but the already armed "sleeping" detachments of the Bandera descendants, whom our FSB are now catching in dozens, but this is a drop in the ocean, because there are much more of them, but when they start to act in our rear, then then your cheerful mood about "Too much panic" will disappear.
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    tulip 17 December 2021 15: 31
    
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    do not make me laugh. You have from 50 to 80% of the call every six months. Your svidomye do not want to fight))) with what runs most of all in Western Ukraine for some reason) if you had at least 400 thousand motivated Bandera, ready to die for their Svidomo paradise, they would have been sent to Donbass long ago. You don’t have an army, you don’t have motivated youth - you mostly have khataskrayniks who don’t care what flag they live under)))
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    Face (Alexander Lik) 17 December 2021 18: 43
    
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    Do not worry. The notorious Natsiks are hardly 2%, the rest are opportunists and cowards who will instantly change their clothes. Well, Ukraine, armed with the world along a string, by no means pulls on the industrially developed Germany of the times of Hitler.
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      I, Alexander, had to spend 2,5 years in Gorlovka under their shelling and bombing, and see everyone that makes the blood run cold in their veins, and saw there those who are waiting, will not wait for the whole Donbass to be Ukrainian, and yesterday Biden signed a piece of paper on the supply of large lethal weapons to Ukraine, and about a hundred piston fighters. Remember from the history before the Second World War, when we had shappy-handed sentiments in our country, and the result of all this, you know, is 27 million dead Soviet people.
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        Face (Alexander Lik) 18 December 2021 16: 42
        
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        Likewise, colleague. From 14 to 17. And I also personally observed the "mixes" between the Nazis and the Vsushniki. It's no secret that the current criminal Kiev junta is supported only by the United States and their tame Nazis. One has only to eliminate this factor, the people of Ukraine will wholeheartedly greet Russian troops with flowers.

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zenion (zinovy) 17 December 2021 15: 24

Finally, they put it in order. We put on winter tires and snow chains, updated the rooms and cleaned the places that different birds loved to go to. They wrote it in stencil - all birds are forbidden to go on these planes and have calmed down. The birds, like the air of great pressure, blew off the models when they read about the ban. Now they will train to bomb the bird control tower.

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- Ay, I missed such a cool topic - there is no time ... - ran here ... "according to other people's opinions" ... - nothing new ... - Personally, I have already spoken a lot about "this matter" and in "this direction ".... - so it is already possible to repeat ...
- And after other people's comments - it's just not interesting to continue something ... - If only there will be time ...

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In fact, the Russian Aerospace Forces in 2020 received a total of 14 new combat aircraft (10 Su-35S and four Su-34) - such a low level of deliveries was the last time a decade ago, the expert continues. And by the end of 2021, this figure may be even less. For comparison: in the mid-90s, about 40 vehicles were delivered a year, a source close to the Ministry of Defense indicates. The new contracts signed in 2019–2020 are much smaller and provide for the delivery by 2027 of about 150 new combat aircraft, including 76 fifth-generation Su-57 fighters. Their production is just starting to unfold,

https://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/articles/2021/08/10/881601-postavki-aviatsii
And here they laugh at Ukraine. I’m wondering, those who admire Putin, do they, besides TV, watch or read something else?

We also read you, this is enough to draw conclusions.

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Laughing and sewing hats, model 1905, is not difficult. It is much more difficult to arrange the serial production of aircraft. Not with homeopathic doses, like the KLA. The war with Japan began with hats, ended with a revolution. The Afghan adventure began with plans "to camp in the field, to scare dushmans" ended the collapse of the USSR.

In addition, according to Nersisyan, the Russian Aerospace Forces will continue to modernize long-range aircraft Tu-95MSM and Tu-22M3M. They will receive long-range cruise missiles for strikes from a safe distance. The production of the Tu-160MS will continue, of which several dozen have been ordered by the Aerospace Forces.

Lies for prostitutes. Ordering does not mean automatically fulfilling. Moreover, within a reasonable time frame for the customer. The order was cut to 20 aircraft, then cut to 10. But in reality they will make 5, at best. there are only 95 machines to upgrade the Tu-22M3. You repeat like a parrot, other people's thoughts.

Since 2009, purchased 12 Su-27SM3, 134 Su-30SM and Su-30SM2, 88 Su-35S, 127 front-line bombers Su-34, 1 Su-57, 50 MiG-29SMT and MiG-29UB, 24 shipborne fighters MiG- 29K, 2 MiG-35, 1 Tu-160.

This is minuscule, even by the standards of peacetime. Especially in 10 years. The first aircraft are already time for capital, especially after the former SAR.

75% of the combat aircraft of the Aerospace Forces are new or upgraded. They have more advanced avionics and navigation aids, high-precision weapons, and effective means of overcoming air defense.

Where is 75% ??

Language is known to grind not to carry bags ... Where are the proposals?