Putin as a result of 30-year friendship between Russia and NATO

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The wider Russian political community considered the summit summit on the Kremlin-Washington line, which ended recently, to be quite successful, commenting on its results exclusively in bravura tones, guided by the principle: "We have won, and the enemy is running!" Yes, I myself was inclined to such conclusions, taking into account the obvious signs of detente, which were outlined immediately after its end. But is it so, let's think about it.

After all, Joe Biden, in fact, outplayed Putin, first threatening him with "hellish" sanctions for the allegedly impending invasion of Ukraine, and then canceling them due to the revealed circumstances. Niccolo Machiavelli nervously smokes bamboo on the sidelines, watching as old Biden at first out of the blue doubles the rates, and then zeroes them, starting the negotiations practically from scratch. "Why was it possible?" - asks the disgraced founder of Machiavellianism, discouraged. You can, Niccolo, you can. Classics of the genre, study, student! After all, the last time before the first summit in Geneva, Biden used a similar tactic, first publicly calling Putin a murderer, thus making negotiations impossible, and then disavowing this statement, deploying his destroyers halfway through the Black Sea, showing the Kremlin a gesture good will. In this case, it doesn't matter at all that Putin was not going to attack Ukraine. It is important that Biden took a step forward. Now it's the turn to make concessions on the side of the Kremlin. The bargaining has not started yet, and the Kremlin should already. Nice! And what kind of concessions, in fact, we are talking about, let's figure it out.



Fatal mistakes of the past


After the collapse of the USSR in 1991 and the subsequent disappearance of the Warsaw Pact Organization and the socialist camp like that of the West and its military vanguard NATO, its half-century existential adversary automatically disappeared. The defense alliance has no one to fight with and no one to defend against. No one else threatened either the existence of the countries included in it, or their vital interests. It would seem, live and rejoice. The long-awaited peace has come. Even Putin confirmed this fact, having lamented recently that “in the 90s and early 2000s, relations between Russia and the Western community were practically cloudless. Why did it take to expand NATO to our borders? "


The answer lies on the surface. The West needed an enemy, and he found him in the person of Russia. Otherwise, the existence of such a bloc as NATO should have been recognized as unnecessary and disbanded. The West has taken a different path. There is also our fault here, in 1994 Russia, together with other boobies, the former Soviet republics, signed a military cooperation program with NATO under the austere name “Partnership for Peace”. Among the signatories, apart from the fragments of the USSR, there were also Sweden, Finland, Austria, Malta and Switzerland. We know what they have benefited from this. And what has the Russian Federation gained from this? Amid friendly pats on the shoulders and promises not to expand NATO to the east, we virtually disarmed, mediocrely ditching all the military potential we inherited from the USSR. But even this seemed to us not enough, and in 1997 we legalized this fact, legitimizing NATO in its new status by signing the Russia-NATO treaty, according to which we were going to “jointly build a lasting and comprehensive peace in the Euro-Atlantic region on the principles of democracy and security and not consider each other as opponents. " We already know how this cooperation ended for the Russian Federation.

NATO then took full advantage of both our complacency and our weakness. The payback for this was 1999 - first, the admission of Hungary, Poland and the Czech Republic to NATO and literally 12 days later the carpet bombing of Belgrade, which ended with the dismemberment of Yugoslavia. In 2001, after the terrorist attack in the Twin Towers, the United States, as part of the ISAF, launched a military operation in Afghanistan, which dragged on for 20 years. And we forgave them by establishing in 2002 the Russia-NATO Council, a special advisory body, where at least once a month we planned to meet with our "partners" at the level of ambassadors, foreign ministers and defense ministers. The meetings ended in 2003 with the invasion of the United States and its allies in Iraq and the overthrow of Saddam Hussein's regime (the operation was sanctioned by the UN, with what white powder was then shaken by US Secretary of State Colin Powell in the UN Security Council, we all remember). As a result, Saddam was overthrown, no chemical weapons were found! We swallowed it all so that in 2004, as a reward, we received another NATO expansion to the east, when 7 more countries were admitted to the alliance - Bulgaria, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia and the Baltic countries (Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia).

“Pope? How many divisions does he have? " (I.V. Stalin)


When Putin delivered his famous Munich speech in February 2007, the collective West only laughed at him. Putin? And who is he, in fact, is he ?! And how many divisions does he have to demand something from the West? Indeed, we had few divisions then. The war on 08.08.08 once again confirmed this, demonstrating all our strength and all our weakness (for three days we gathered our thoughts and strength to respond to the insolent attack of the tie eater).

In 2007, in Munich, we were still too weak to make claims for a fair redistribution of zones of influence, taking into account our interests as well. To put the question bluntly again, it took us 11 long years, until March 1, 2018, and Putin's famous speech before the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation with a demonstration of the very famous cartoons produced by Soyuzoboronmultfilm. In the interval between these dates, there was another NATO expansion to the east (in 2009, two more members were admitted to the North Atlantic Alliance - Albania and Croatia), which we once again silently swallowed (the country was then headed by Dmitry Medvedev); and the intervention of the troops of the international coalition led by the United States in Libya in 2011, which ended with the assassination of Muammar Gaddafi and the complete ruin of the country.

For us to finally wake up, it took the West to intervene in the Ukrainian crisis in 2014, which was already impudent. We couldn't stand this anymore! The country was then headed by Vladimir Putin, who replaced Dmitry Medvedev in this post in 2012, and the Defense Ministry was Sergei Shoigu, who replaced the notorious Serdyukov. For Ukraine, this ended with the loss of Crimea and part of Donbass, and for us, a complete rupture of all types of civil and military cooperation with NATO (only the channel of interaction on political issues at the ambassadorial level remained open), the creation of a Rapid Reaction Force in the NATO structure in the event of an "attack" by the Russian Federation on any of the members of the Alliance and full-scale sanctions and restrictions imposed on the Russian Federation by the international community under pressure from the United States.

In 2014, we were partially able to defend our interests. But again, only partially. I believe that in 2014 the Russian Federation had all the rights and all the possibilities to strangle this infection in the bud, taking advantage of the appeal at that time of the still legal, albeit fugitive, president of Ukraine with a request to restore the state system violated in his country (the Federation Council of the Russian Federation then gave permission to the president country for the use of the Armed Forces outside the Russian Federation, which he never used). But already in September 2015, nothing prevented him from taking advantage of a similar request from Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, when the Russian Aerospace Forces and the Russian Navy entered the territory of this country, breaking all the plans of the international coalition to establish a system they liked and demolish the legally elected president. Why we didn’t do this a year earlier in Ukraine, I don’t know.

The intervention of the United States and its European allies in Ukraine is tantamount to the intervention of the Russian Federation not even in the relationship of Mexico or Canada with the States, but in the relationship, for example, between the state of California and the District of Columbia, taking into account those historical and political ties that bind Russia and Ukraine, where half of the inhabitants of both countries have common relatives on both sides of the border. Dictating to us what political system should be there, and what language its citizens should speak, is like telling us what language the residents of the Vologda and Arkhangelsk regions should communicate in. This is not your dog's business! Hack it to yourself once and for all on your hunchbacked nose! It is a pity that Putin did not bring the matter to the end then, limiting himself only to Crimea and Donbass, we would not have to conduct these boring conversations with you now and listen to all your progressing nonsense, to whom we owe what and who does not.

The complete severing of all ties with NATO, with the termination of the military mission and the NATO information office in Moscow and the closure of the Russian mission to NATO in Brussels, which followed immediately after the expulsion of 10 of our diplomats accredited at the NATO headquarters in Brussels, which happened in October this year, was the first bell in this direction. The first, but not the last. And Joe Biden got it. Jokes with Russia are bad. Russia is not the same!
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  1. +1
    16 December 2021 06: 30
    I still do not understand, but in what way did Biden outplay Putin, given that Putin was not going to send troops to Ukraine?
    1. +2
      16 December 2021 08: 02
      I wasn't going to introduce it, but I still have to make excuses, the main thing in postmodernism is not what happens in real life, but how they will tell about it on TV
      1. 0
        16 December 2021 19: 04
        Quote: Volkonsky
        the main thing in postmodernism is not what happens in real life, but how they will tell about it on TV

        That is, if they say on TV that the Martians have arrived, is that also true?
        The main thing is what happens in reality, but here everything is in order. Well, the Western press will howl anyway.
  2. +1
    16 December 2021 07: 17
    After the collapse of the USSR in 1991 and the next one the disappearance of the Warsaw Pact Organization

    After all, at first the OVD collapsed, and the USSR - a little later.
    1. 0
      16 December 2021 08: 04
      I agree, but the collapse of the OVD was a consequence of the collapse of the USSR, and not vice versa, just the first rats ran from the sinking ship
      1. +1
        16 December 2021 08: 57
        The processes of the collapse of the Department of Internal Affairs and the USSR proceeded in parallel.

        After the displacement of the communist regimes in the countries of Central and Eastern Europe in 1989-1990, the existence of the Warsaw Pact as a military-political alliance of socialist countries lost its meaning. February 25, 1991 states - members of the Department of Internal Affairs abolished its military structures, and on July 1, 1991 in Prague they signed Protocol on complete termination of the Agreement.

        If I understand what is written correctly, then there were no last or first rats, and the "Soviet rats" ran along with the others.
        1. 0
          16 December 2021 19: 22
          and you do not associate this with the weakening of the USSR during the Gorby period? all the time after Brezhnev's death, with the exception of the Andropov period, the USSR was falling. Why? There were several reasons for this.
          1. -3
            17 December 2021 16: 31
            Russia has noticeably weakened in 20 years. Conscription service was reduced to 1 year. Officers were reduced by 200 thousand. Warrant officers were completely reduced as an institution. The reconnaissance and strike naval aviation was liquidated. Almost all TAVKRs and TARKRs, destroyers were eliminated. All radio engineering companies and regiments were reduced in the Arctic. air defense fighters.
  3. +4
    16 December 2021 11: 25
    The recent summit summit on the Kremlin-Washington line was considered by the broad Russian political community to be quite successful.

    What they talked about - not bad, but success in what - the political and economic blockade was lifted from the Russian Federation, the arms race decreased, subversive activities stopped, there were some hints of friendship and cooperation?
    Created a commission of the Russian Federation-NATO - can it influence something? There is a direct line between the heads of state and the military departments of the Russian Federation and the United States with the help of which any critical situations are resolved with subsequent negotiations and the conclusion of agreements, and this commission created is an intermediary, the fifth wheel in the cart.
    We agreed on cooperation in the fight against crimes in cyberspace - what kind of cooperation if cyberspace is the arena of hostilities ??? Cyberattacks on the economic, political, military, transport, social and other infrastructure will only grow and grow exponentially in terms of quantity and quality.
    No one needs an enemy, but they become enemies as a result of a clash of certain interests, in this case economic, and economic interests need military support, and NATO is called upon to perform and perform this function in all regions of the world, and therefore will increase its military potential. which it is doing moving eastward and moving from Berlin to Narva and Rostov-on-Don, and will continue to advance until it is stopped, and it can only be stopped by force and determination to apply it. There are no other options, no persuasion-contracts and agreements will help, examples are above the roof.
  4. -2
    16 December 2021 13: 25
    And Joe Biden got it. Jokes with Russia are bad. Russia is not the same!

    Judging by the state of affairs in the Aerospace Forces and the Navy, according to the state of the Strategic Nuclear Forces, it even passed back. Compared to the early 2000s. National projects have failed. About 25 million workers in high-tech jobs are silent. About achieving the Portuguese standard of living is silent.

    The recent summit summit on the Kremlin-Washington line was considered by the broad Russian political community to be quite successful.

    What is the success? NATO scouts disappeared from the air near the border, the shelling of citizens with Russian passports in the LPNR stopped, the anti-Russian sanctions were instantly lifted?
    1. 0
      16 December 2021 19: 06
      Quote: gunnerminer
      Judging by the state of affairs in the Aerospace Forces and in the Navy, according to the state of the strategic nuclear forces, even passed back

      Offhand.

      The lead frigate of Project 22350, Admiral Gorshkov, again tested the new Zircon hypersonic anti-ship missile, firing at a coastal target located at the Chizha training ground in the Arkhangelsk region from the White Sea. This was announced on Thursday, December 16, at the press service of the RF Ministry of Defense.

      https://flot.com
      1. -3
        16 December 2021 20: 01
        Zircon will not be released soon for readiness in series. It will be mastered by the industry for a long time. The price of this ammunition will be more than for 3M-14 and 3M-54. Tests do not go further than 350 km, and only for stationary targets. Project 22350 frigates only two units. PLARK 855M only two units. Project 11711 diesel engines only two units. Project 677 diesel engines only two units. Modernization of project 877 diesel engines without installing the Caliber complex. Modernization of the project 949A SSGN has been reduced to two units. TAVKR Kuznetsov is mired in repairs and accidents. The TARKR P. Veliky is waiting for repair for 12 years. The TARKR Nakhimov has been under repair for 10 years. There is no PRTB, there are no universal supply transports. There are only two modern reconnaissance ships. There are only one base minesweepers per year. There are no new sea and raid minesweepers. There are no naval reconnaissance and strike aircraft. . PLO aviation museum exhibits.
        The SA is represented by a meager number of combat-ready Tu-160M ​​and Tu-95MS. In YES there are only 6 Tu-22M3 suitable for modernization. Serial production of the Su-57 has failed. The eyes and ears of the A-50U aerospace forces are only four combat-ready. There are only one and a half squadrons of tankers.
        1. 0
          16 December 2021 20: 50
          Quote: gunnerminer
          BDK project 11711 only two units

          And what does he shoot missiles? And by the way, two more are being built.

          Quote: gunnerminer
          Diesel engines 677 project only two units. Modernization of diesel engines 877 project without installing the Caliber complex

          Are we forgetting about 636.3? As well as about corvettes, RTOs and so on?
          1. -3
            16 December 2021 20: 52
            And what does he shoot missiles? And by the way, two more are being built.

            As an example of the failure of shipbuilding. They are building, they are building. It is not known when they will be built. The deficiencies in combat value are of no value. The fleet is assessed by the ships of the first line, with crews (always in the line) and with ammunition.

            Are we forgetting about 636.3? As well as about corvettes, RTOs and so on?

            This is a mosquito fleet. Moreover, represented by scanty numbers. A tiny detachment recently came to KTOF, only two Varashavyanka 636.3 project and a corvette.
            Project 636.3 has many drawbacks. The boat is 40 years out of date. The torpedo-loading device is stored on the shore, it is impossible to quickly drag it to the maneuvering point. Penetrating periscopes. Wooden torpedoes and the same GPE devices. Lead-acid battery from the 30s of the last century. The same regeneration system, chemical. Requires regular ventilation of the compartments with fresh air, on the surface. Due to the impossibility of getting rid of CO. The absence of a towed antenna, the absence of on-board receivers of the SAC. MRK is small, approximately like the AUG of the US Navy. MRK is a large boat. Without PLO and air defense, with large restrictions on seaworthiness, with low autonomy, can fire missiles only at coastal stationary targets, limited volleys, at targets unprotected air defense, without countermeasures of the electronic warfare. Corvettes are ships of coastal action. According to the Soviet estimate - IPC
            1. 0
              17 December 2021 14: 04
              Quote: gunnerminer
              As an example of the failure of shipbuilding. They are building, they are building. It is not known when they will be built.

              Given the fact that the series has gone, it is already known.

              Quote: gunnerminer
              This is the mosquito fleet.

              Able to carry the same Zircons (RTOs will definitely be able to).

              Quote: gunnerminer
              Project 636.3 has many shortcomings. The boat is 40 years out of date.

              I’m wondering, where are you going to get XNUMX-year-old devices that have long been removed from production? Tell me?
              1. -3
                17 December 2021 16: 27
                The series did not go. When the last order in the series is handed over, there will be something to discuss. For now, this is news from the future. Gorby style. Zircons are not adopted. Do not hang noodles. One MRK carries 8 missiles. To fire a regular salvo of subsonic missiles, a compound of at least 10 MRKs is required.

                I’m wondering, where are you going to get XNUMX-year-old devices that have long been removed from production? Tell me?

                They have been trained for 50 years in advance.
                1. 0
                  17 December 2021 21: 05
                  Quote: gunnerminer
                  The series did not go.

                  Truth? The main one was handed over and serial orders began to be issued.

                  Quote: gunnerminer
                  Zircons are not accepted for service

                  The Moscow Region NPO Mashinostroyenia has started serial production of the 3M22 Zircon hypersonic anti-ship missiles for the Russian Navy.
                  https://rg.ru/2021/11/28/reg-cfo/nachalos-serijnoe-proizvodstvo-giperzvukovyh-raket-cirkon.html
                  That is, it remains to complete the formalities.

                  Quote: gunnerminer
                  They have been trained for 50 years in advance.

                  I am an engineer myself and I know very well that any equipment, even pure mechanics, has an expiration date from the date of manufacture. Another "Crimean".
                  1. -5
                    17 December 2021 21: 26
                    Not a single ship, not a single unit of the Navy has a 3M22 in ammunition. The series went on, this is when the last ship of the series was handed over to the customer.
                    1. 0
                      18 December 2021 13: 15
                      Quote: gunnerminer
                      Not a single ship, not a single unit of the Navy has a 3M22 in ammunition.

                      But this is a question.

                      Quote: gunnerminer
                      The series started when the last ship in the series was handed over to the customer.

                      The series started when the construction of serial orders is underway, and when the last ship of the series was handed over to the customer, it means the series is over.
                      1. -3
                        18 December 2021 13: 33
                        This is a question for you. When the series is finished, there is something to discuss. Only the K-561 was handed over to the customer, but without water cannons. Without anti-torpedo systems. With old GPEs.
                      2. 0
                        18 December 2021 15: 34
                        Quote: gunnerminer
                        This is a question for you.

                        Do they report everything to you?

                        Quote: gunnerminer
                        When the episode is over, there is something to discuss.

                        Said the person who does not understand the difference between the concepts of building a series and ending a series.

                        Quote: gunnerminer
                        But without water cannons, without anti-torpedo systems, with old GPEs.

                        Source as always OBS?
                      3. -1
                        18 December 2021 15: 37
                        Do they report everything to you?

                        And they don't report to you?

                        Source as always OBS?

                        Watch the materials of the near-naval press, talk with the submariners, visit the Army forum, read the Maritime Collection magazine, watch TV Zvezda.
                      4. 0
                        18 December 2021 15: 39
                        Quote: gunnerminer
                        And they don't report to you?

                        Quote: Dart2027
                        The Moscow Region NPO Mashinostroyenia has started serial production of the 3M22 Zircon hypersonic anti-ship missiles for the Russian Navy.
                        https://rg.ru/2021/11/28/reg-cfo/nachalos-serijnoe-proizvodstvo-giperzvukovyh-raket-cirkon.html
                        That is, it remains to complete the formalities.

                        Quote: gunnerminer
                        See materials near the naval press

                        That is, OBS.
  5. +2
    16 December 2021 22: 38
    Vladimir! Great article - everything is sorted out on the shelves.
    In fact, we can see how the GDP was pulling our country out of the hole, trying to nullify the beliefs of our "partners" that they won the Cold War.
    Not a very pleasant parallel - doesn't this remind you of the situation when Germany, in fact losing the First World War, was forced to prepare for the Second World War? And Putin's peace-loving phrases like "ichtamnet" are sometimes diluted with the quite eloquent "hit the first on the decision-making centers"?
    I do not in the least compare two political figures from different generations and there were different political situations.
    But the parallels are visible - we were a loser, they ruined us, but we pulled ourselves out of the swamp by the scruff of the swamp, declared ourselves again - we understand perfectly well - they will definitely finish off, which means we need to hit first in order to have at least some chance of survival?
    And the goals of the war are precisely the survival of the nation. Which was imposed on all sides by sanctions, banned from having its own fleet and army, and which can simply disappear on the map ... Hitler raised the stakes - not just survival, but domination. What changed? We are faced with essentially the same question. How to be?
    1. +1
      17 December 2021 20: 04
      I will answer with the words of another German. Karl Philip Gottlieb von Clausewitz (1780 ... 1831) - Prussian military leader, military theorist and historian. In 1812-1814 he served in the Russian army. He became famous for his essay "On War", which revolutionized the theory of military sciences.

      The goal of any war is peace on terms favorable to the victorious side.

      (Carl Philipp Gottlieb von Clausewitz)

      The goal of any war is peace on a victorious basis

      (Karl von Clausewitz, own edition)

      A statesman who sees that war is inevitable and cannot dare to strike first is guilty of a crime against his country.

      (Karl von Clausewitz)

      From time immemorial, only great victories have led to great results.

      War is a continuation of politics by other means.

      (Karl von Clausewitz)

      The Cold War is the continuation of the war by other means, when a hot war is not possible

      (own observation)

      Politics is the continuation of war by other means.

      (own version)

      The war is fought until victory, period.
    2. 0
      25 December 2021 23: 01
      shiva. The country was imposed with sanctions, and nevertheless, all production leaves Russia for the cordon. Those who destroyed the USSR continue to destroy Russia. Only Munchausen could pull himself out of the swamp by the pigtail, by the way, he also visited the moon. How did it happen that the same question of domination is facing Russia, because it is still ruled by the same people who ruled the USSR. The country does not give a damn about the people, the main thing is wealth, ships and football teams abroad. There was an article on this site that Russians are selling gold. And in the fall they boasted that the largest reserves of gold were in Russia. Reminded an anecdote about the times immediately after the 1917 revolution.

      The Cheka came to Abram and they say - we learned that you have a lot of gold. The country is young, the country is being built, the country needs gold. Abram, well I will consult with Sarah. We are waiting for you tomorrow with an answer. The next day Abram comes and starts talking - I consulted with Sarah here. Briefly speaking! I consulted with Sarah and Sarah said. What did Sarah say? Sarah said, if there is no gold, then the non-fic is built.

      Don't sue the rich, don't fight the strong.
  6. 0
    16 January 2022 08: 51
    It's not the first conversation where I've heard about "a raucous 636 years ago". Well, in general, diesels are obsolete, but why do they say that about 40? THE OLDEST VARSHAVA WOMAN 636. They are all super modern.