Ukraine helps Turkey to create the world's first aircraft carrier with drones. How did it happen?


Thanks to the aggressive advertising received during the armed conflicts in Syria, Libya and Nagorno-Karabakh, Turkey is today considered one of the world leaders in the development and production of attack UAVs. In the coming years, this country has every chance of becoming the undisputed leader in the field of unmanned carrier-based aircraft, and Ukraine will help it in this. How did it happen?


Oddly enough, a breakthrough in this promising direction is largely forced for Turkey. At the same time, their own allies in the Western military alliance put the "bandwagon" on Ankara. The geopolitical ambitions of "Sultan" Erdogan are spreading very widely, from Africa to Afghanistan. At the same time, Turkey does not particularly hide the fact that they are considering the possibility of a direct military clash with another member of the North Atlantic Alliance, Greece.

It is possible that in the foreseeable future, the Turks and Greeks will again share the disputed islands in the Mediterranean with all the accompanying hydrocarbon deposits. According to President Erdogan, the Turkish Navy will need three aircraft carriers in the future. These "unnecessary" ships are needed by the "great land power" for anti-aircraft cover for the navy and support for amphibious assault forces, as well as for other operations, for example, on the African coast. Probably, realizing the prospects that such a qualitative strengthening of the Turkish Navy in this strategically important region threatens, Washington considered it necessary to interrupt this takeoff. What did he do?

Recall that the Turks have already built their first aircraft-carrying ship called TCG Anadolu (L-400). It was built according to the modernized design of the Spanish helicopter carrier-UDC "Juan Carlos I". Its total displacement is a little more than 27 thousand tons; a take-off springboard is equipped on the bow. The universal amphibious assault ship can be used for transporting marines and armored vehicles, supporting the assault force using carrier-based aircraft, and also as an anti-submarine helicopter carrier. In the right hands, this floating trough can be extremely useful.

However, the Turks are not going to stop at this UDC. President Erdogan announced plans to build the country's first real aircraft carrier. There are almost no details, but there are hints that Britain could help Turkey in this project by selling blueprints for its newest aircraft carrier, Queen Elizabeth. It is not yet known whether Ankara will build two attack aircraft carriers at once, or it will be limited to one, but will build a second UDC instead. It was here that the United States intervened in the plans of the "neo-Ottomans".

It is believed that Washington excluded Ankara from the project of the fifth generation F-35 fighter in punishment for its purchase of Russian S-400 air defense systems. But, most likely, the problem was somewhat deeper. The fact is that the Turkish Navy was counting on the American F-35B fighter as a carrier for the TCG Anadolu (L-400). The UDC can carry up to 12 F-35Bs or up to 14 helicopters. Also, if we assume that the Turkish aircraft carrier will be built according to a British project, it turns out that Queen Elizabeth and her sister ship are intended for the operation of the F-35B SCVVP. And here the United States basically deprives Ankara of access to carrier-based fighters. What to do with the already built UDC and the planned ones?

We must pay tribute to the Turks that they did not hang their noses. Left without a manned carrier-based aircraft, they relied on an unmanned aircraft. Turkey will convert its TCG Anadolu (L-400) into a so-called "drone carrier". Especially under the UDC, they began to develop a deck version of the Bayraktar TB3, which should become larger and more powerful than its land-based counterpart. It was assumed that the ship could accommodate up to 50 of them with the ability to simultaneously support up to 10 in the air. Undoubtedly, attack UAVs will become a serious help in the implementation of amphibious operations by the Turkish Navy. However, unmanned aerial vehicles are still far from the performance characteristics of fighters, and here the "Western partners" also played a role in limiting the supply of components for their production.

And then Ukraine comes on the scene, which has managed to successfully destroy almost all of its industry, with rare exceptions. This includes, in particular, aircraft engine building, which Ankara has long had an eye on. The Ukrainian enterprises Motor Sich and Ivchenko-Progress have already signed multimillion-dollar contracts for the supply of turbojet engines to Turkey. The manufacturer "Bayraktarov" has high hopes for this cooperation:

We will apply this experience when working with the AI-322F and AI-25TLT turbojet engines produced by Ivchenko-Progress and Motor Sich. This close collaboration will primarily result in a successful and high-end strategic product.

Its result will be the creation of a new generation jet UAV called MIUS. The performance characteristics of this unmanned fighter, as the Turks call it, are impressive. Having received the Ukrainian AI-322F engine, which has a thrust on afterburner of 4 kgf with a weight of only 200 kg, it will be able to climb to an altitude of 560 kilometers with a flight range of 12 hours, its speed will be more than 5 kilometers per hour, and the combat load - about 900 ton. It will be armed with air-to-ground and air-to-air missiles, effectively turning it into a fighter jet. In the future, MIUS may become supersonic. Impressive.

Note that the Turks intend to send the UAV on its first flight as early as 2023. It is planned to create a deck version of MIUS. He will take off from the springboard and land on the deck with the help of an aerofinisher. It is stated that in addition to Bayraktar TB3, the TCG Anadolu (L-400) aircraft wing will include heavier and more promising MIUS UAVs. It is likely that not only the UDC, but also the future Turkish aircraft carrier will be armed with UAVs. This means that Ankara, left without American F-35B fighters, will be the first to receive its own aircraft carrier fleet, equipped with supersonic attack drones. This direction seems to be very promising, which should be taken into account by the domestic military-industrial complex.
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  1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
    gunnerminer (gunner miner) 8 December 2021 13: 38
    -4
    Erdogan's son-in-law, in a relatively short operational period of time, was able to make practical high-quality UAVs from what was at hand, and without having the experience. Results BLA heavy type, serial, and still not created. Medium type only just mastered.
    Russian corporations and holdings presumptuously refused to recruit Ukrainian specialists for engine builders, marine, aviation, ship repairmen, shipbuilders, but gave them over to the Taiwanese Chinese, Turks, South Koreans, Thais, and Chinese.
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 8 December 2021 14: 51
      +1
      Erdogan's son-in-law, in a relatively short operational period of time, was able to make practical, high-quality UAVs from what was at hand, without having the experience.

      Erdogan's son-in-law, not personally, of course, managed to assemble a designer from Canadian and other components. That's all. If something goes wrong, you will have to order with Aliexpress. By the way, Ukrainian aircraft manufacturers were unable to do even that. Definitely a peremog for a great aerospace power good

      Russian colleagues of the son-in-law, with experience in creating a UAV, having spent tens of billions of rubles, ten years of time, have achieved very modest results. Heavy-type aircraft, serial ones, have not yet been created. The average type is only just being mastered.

      Only master means that it is created. As for the heavy one, it is still at the prototype stage. The plant is being completed, serial production is not far off.

      Russian corporations and holdings presumptuously refused to recruit Ukrainian specialists for engine builders, marine, aviation, ship repairmen, shipbuilders, but gave them over to the Taiwanese Chinese, Turks, South Koreans, Thais, and Chinese.

      It was a very correct decision. good Now Russia is doing it on its own. The Ukrainian engine builders and shipbuilders themselves cannot do anything. The maximum is to buy from the Turks a designer from Western accessories, and a decommissioned trough, for Western loans. Well, and probably paint it with yellow and blue paint (probably Chinese).
      1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 8 December 2021 15: 45
        -6
        Erdogan's son-in-law, not personally, of course, managed to assemble a designer from Canadian and other components. That's all. If something goes wrong, you will have to order with Aliexpress. By the way, Ukrainian aircraft manufacturers were unable to do even that. Definitely a peremog for a great aerospace power

        Although with Ozonaru. The main thing is that the son-in-law managed to solve the problem of saturating his units and subunits with effective UAVs, checking them in a combat situation, and establishing a profitable export. There is a considerable contrast with Russian UAVs. Instead of export, the tails of criminal cases, bragging about pictures and videos, speeches on the forums. Accidentally surviving Ukrainian pensioners will go to the Turkish specialists.

        Now Russia does it herself

        It does badly. On the Syrian bridgehead, instead of a UAV, I had to sacrifice the lives of officers (it is expensive to train, more expensive than any UAV) for the banal proofreading of artillery fire and air guidance.
        1. 123 Offline 123
          123 (123) 8 December 2021 15: 59
          +1
          The main thing is that the son-in-law managed to solve the problem of saturating his units and subunits with effective UAVs, checking them in a combat situation, and establishing a profitable export.

          Satisfy your health.

          There is a considerable contrast with Russian UAVs.

          This is exactly yes They do everything themselves and do not depend on anyone.

          Instead of export, the tails of criminal cases, bragging about pictures and videos, speeches on forums. Accidentally surviving Ukrainian pensioners will go to the Turkish specialists.

          Yes, let them go wherever they want. One boasting pictures and vidosikami, speeches on the forums. There are no criminal cases. It is not customary to imprison for corruption in Ukraine.
          1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
            gunnerminer (gunner miner) 8 December 2021 16: 11
            -6
            No criminal cases

            Сколько угодно.https://www.ng.ru/economics/2018-06-05/4_7239_bpla.html

            The topic of unmanned aircraft was dropped in the 90s. Then all and sundry began to study it. Various firms and small firms began to master a new subject from scratch, and more often - to reinvent the wheel in a new way. Then the fight for budget money began. Firms began to sue each other, criminal cases were launched against the heads of design bureaus and enterprises. Commercial players have emerged. The fight was not to promote new models, but to "sit on a budget." This is the reason.

            So we had solutions, but no one was interested in promoting them. As a result, we have what we have. That is, nothing. Everyone remembers Putin's words: "Let them work it out for themselves, and then we’ll get it." Here it is - a claw-scratch. Copying an engineering product is not an easy task. I myself somehow had to do it. I wrote about this. The simplest detail - but failed to copy. The Americans used polyamide plastic for what? To reduce the cost, save copper. And our polyamide did not get up, it burst. Not even because it is worse. Different technology, different characteristics. Well, they put in an expensive polyurethane in those days. There was no saving, but the task was completed and reported. Just think, Americans! We're cooler.
            1. 123 Offline 123
              123 (123) 8 December 2021 16: 15
              +1
              As much as you like

              Anything? They are not imprisoned in Ukraine for corruption. This is accepted in Russia.

              The topic of unmanned aircraft was dropped in the 90s.

              Go through the archives, live in the past. UAVs Russia makes. And you can choke on bile.
              1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                gunnerminer (gunner miner) 8 December 2021 20: 24
                -3
                Anything? They are not imprisoned in Ukraine for corruption. This is accepted in Russia.

                In Russia, it’s like sports fishing. They catch, ombre, release. Small things six are given short terms, or those who are greedy, do not share with their superiors. Especially in the Military-Industrial Complex.

                UAVs Russia makes.

                It does it, but it is not adequate to the needs of the Armed Forces. Little, very slowly.
                1. 123 Offline 123
                  123 (123) 8 December 2021 21: 23
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                  In Russia, it’s like sports fishing. They catch, ombre, release. Small things six are given short terms, or those who are greedy, do not share with their superiors. Especially in the Military-Industrial Complex.

                  Lying again. An incomplete list of small things.

                  Alexander Khoroshavin, Governor of the Sakhalin Region
                  Andrey Plitko, Vice Governor of the Kirov Region
                  Sergey Furgal Governor of the Khabarovsk Territory
                  Pavel Konkov, ex-governor of the Ivanovo region
                  Nikita Belykh, Governor of the Kirov Region
                  Mikhail Yurevich, ex-governor of the Chelyabinsk region
                  Alexander Vinnikov, ex-governor of the Jewish Autonomous Region
                  Vyacheslav Geyser, head of Komi
                  Alexander Soloviev, head of Udmurtia
                  Leonid Markelov, former governor of Mari El

                  It does it, but it is not adequate to the needs of the Armed Forces. Little, very slowly.

                  It is not for you to judge the adequacy. No. Do you think that military products from Ozone are normal. smile
                  1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                    gunnerminer (gunner miner) 9 December 2021 11: 17
                    -6
                    You transferred 0.001% percentage of thieves. The main theft in Roscosmos and the military-industrial complex. The eye of theft in shipbuilding and ship repair.
                    1. 123 Offline 123
                      123 (123) 9 December 2021 14: 45
                      +1
                      You transferred 0.001% percentage of thieves. The main theft in Roscosmos and the military-industrial complex. The eye of theft in shipbuilding and ship repair.

                      Is this instead of an apology for lying? smile
                      1. FSFU FSFU Offline FSFU FSFU
                        FSFU FSFU (FSFU FSFU) 3 January 2022 16: 38
                        +1
                        This is Gunya.
                        Passive thief-copy-paste of quotes without links and copyright.
  2. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 8 December 2021 14: 36
    0
    Quote: gunnerminer
    Erdogan's son-in-law, in a relatively short operational period of time, was able to make practical, high-quality UAVs from what was at hand, without having the experience.

    To be fair, Turkish UAVs have Israeli genes. They were not created from scratch.
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 8 December 2021 15: 48
      -6
      The main goal was achieved. The outpost was entirely manufactured in Israel. Then it was sent to the UZGA, where it was finally assembled. More primitive samples of Israeli production were also supplied. But these Israeli roots did not radically affect the development of Russian UAVs. Something you don’t agree on.
    2. Binder Offline Binder
      Binder (Miron) 8 December 2021 17: 56
      -5
      Quote: Marzhetsky
      To be fair, Turkish UAVs have Israeli genes. They were not created from scratch.

      The Russian UAV "Forpost" is a licensed copy of an old Israeli Searcher, assembled in the Russian Federation from Israeli components using the screwdriver assembly method. So Russian drones could also have Israeli genes, who got in the way? It's just that the Turks are great - they managed to create their own production using the Israeli practices, but the Russians could not.
      1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
        Ulysses (Alexey) 8 December 2021 18: 07
        0
        The Russian UAV "Forpost" is a licensed copy of an old Israeli Searcher, assembled in the Russian Federation from Israeli components using the screwdriver assembly method.

        Unpleasant surprises await you.
        What has to do with it in the near future.
        1. Binder Offline Binder
          Binder (Miron) 8 December 2021 18: 32
          -5
          When will this soon come? Apparently, this will happen when the skies will cut through the armadas of the Su-57 together with the Hunters, Altairas and other Russian UAVs, hordes of Atmat engines will rumble on land, Poseidons will float in the oceans, and hypersonic cartoon rockets. laughing
          1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
            gunnerminer (gunner miner) 8 December 2021 20: 26
            -4
            "Poseidoners." laughing
          2. isofat Offline isofat
            isofat (isofat) 10 December 2021 11: 24
            0
            Quote: Bindyuzhnik
            When will this soon come?

            Binder! This time will come when the Zionists will be gagged so that they will not poison our world with their lies. love
            1. Binder Offline Binder
              Binder (Miron) 10 December 2021 13: 08
              -1
              isofat!It means never bully
              1. isofat Offline isofat
                isofat (isofat) 10 December 2021 19: 01
                0
                This is about the Zionists, not the stupidity of the Jews.
                1. Binder Offline Binder
                  Binder (Miron) 10 December 2021 20: 09
                  -2
                  When someone like you talks about Jewish stupidity, it's funny ... lol
                  1. isofat Offline isofat
                    isofat (isofat) 10 December 2021 21: 42
                    +1
                    Binder, you do not believe me? Historian, Jew, Josephus Flavius, described events that are a shining example of Jewish stupidity !!!

                    Jews refused to pay taxes. Rome sent troops and laid siege to Jerusalem. The Jews had an army and they could:

                    - to give battle to the Romans.
                    - try to sit out behind powerful walls.
                    - to capitulate and pay taxes, the Romans agreed to peace.


                    What did the Jews do?

                    - they were divided into three armies, two armies of war and one - peace.
                    - staged a civil war in the besieged city.
                    - extremists - Sicarii, burned food warehouses, and the besieged died of hunger.


                    Survivors left 100 thousand, from 1 200 000 Jews. The Romans entered the city and sold them into slavery. laughing love hi
                    1. Binder Offline Binder
                      Binder (Miron) 10 December 2021 22: 51
                      -1
                      Do you believe that the population of Jerusalem before the Roman siege was 1, and yet, even today it does not reach this figure, even the largest city of that period, Rome, the capital of the empire, according to historians, had a smaller number of inhabitants.
                      1. isofat Offline isofat
                        isofat (isofat) 10 December 2021 23: 11
                        0
                        Josephus Flavius ​​reports that there were approximately 1 Jews in Jerusalem and they gathered for the feast. yes

                        P.S Josephus Flavius, ancient historian and military leader.
                      2. Binder Offline Binder
                        Binder (Miron) 11 December 2021 00: 51
                        -1
                        You should be critical of these numbers, especially since current historians give different information.
                      3. isofat Offline isofat
                        isofat (isofat) 11 December 2021 10: 16
                        0
                        Binder, yesterday you yourself counted six million Jews, victims of genocide, and today you are mocking the Palestinians.

                        More and more people are inclined to think that all your calculations should be carefully checked. sad
                      4. Binder Offline Binder
                        Binder (Miron) 11 December 2021 11: 05
                        -1
                        Quote: isofat
                        today you are making fun of the Palestinians.

                        Without the slightest exaggeration, I can say: if the Russians lived in Russia as the Arabs live in Israel, they would think that they are in paradise. hi
                      5. isofat Offline isofat
                        isofat (isofat) 11 December 2021 11: 39
                        0
                        Palestinians in Israel live much better than Jews. I'm not surprised. Why don't the smart ones want to go there? laughing

                        PS It seemed to me that you do not want to recount the number of victims of the genocide. I'm right?
  • gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
    gunnerminer (gunner miner) 8 December 2021 20: 25
    -4
    These "surprises" have been promising for 20 years already. It's time for them to shave off their third beard.
  • Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 8 December 2021 20: 19
    +1
    Fu-fu-fu, these are your genes. laughing
    We figured it out ourselves. You are just a Russophobe living in your fictional world, unable to accept reality.
    tongue
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 8 December 2021 20: 27
      -5
      Probably Rostec and State Corporations are pretty much littered with Russophobes, as well as Roskosmos.
    2. Binder Offline Binder
      Binder (Miron) 8 December 2021 22: 04
      -2
      Marzhetsky, and you accuse someone of being out of touch with reality? lol
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  • Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 8 December 2021 21: 34
    +3
    The headline pleased.

    How did it happen?

    It’s just some kind of childish surprise. like the jam broke.

    As for the rest, they wrote here that Turkey is really developing. Powerful chemistry and drug manufacturing. Machine and shipbuilding.
    The development of your own military equipment is easier. Something like China 15 years ago.
  • Rinat Offline Rinat
    Rinat (Rinat) 9 December 2021 08: 23
    +1
    The Ukrainians and the Turks have not worked out anything good yet. Let's wait, we'll see, we'll explore. So far, in fact, these are mrii janissaries and Ukrainians, these bosom allies.
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 9 December 2021 19: 49
      -4
      Ukrainians do not play Lavrov-style giveaways with the Turks.
      1. Rinat Offline Rinat
        Rinat (Rinat) 9 December 2021 20: 36
        -1
        Quote: gunnerminer
        Ukrainians do not play Lavrov-style giveaways with the Turks.

        A prime example of how to translate the thread of a conversation to an unsuitable target.
        1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
          gunnerminer (gunner miner) 9 December 2021 21: 03
          -2
          It means that the Turks calculated that they would not get anything useful from Russian producers. for the construction of effective and inexpensive UAVs. The Russian Orion medium-type UAV is inferior in performance and image to Bayraktar, while Russian heavy UAVs do not exist.
          1. Adler77 Offline Adler77
            Adler77 (Denis) 26 December 2021 23: 10
            0
            Ukraine is cheaper, that's all)
            1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
              gunnerminer (gunner miner) 27 December 2021 10: 03
              -3
              The Turks need their own engine for the UAV. Now they cannot develop their aviation. There are no sufficient personnel. There is no funds in the treasury. With the help of Ukrainian specialists they are trying to create an engine for the UAV. In order to partially compensate for the lack of ground attack aircraft in low-intensity conflicts.
  • Adler77 Offline Adler77
    Adler77 (Denis) 26 December 2021 23: 09
    0
    Well done Turks and we also need it more real than a full-fledged aircraft carrier.
  • Igor Berg Offline Igor Berg
    Igor Berg (Igor Berg) 3 January 2022 14: 40
    0
    What can I say, the Turks quickly harness and drive fast ... unlike some, with a similar proverb ...