"New Yalta" turned out to be "New Munich Agreement": on the results of the Putin-Biden summit

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The two-hour negotiations between Vladimir Putin and Joe Biden, during which even the indispensable for such cases “entourage” in the person of closest assistants and translators was removed from the video communication screens, ended as predicted by the absolute majority of those who undertook to make predictions about its results. As a matter of fact, no "breakthroughs", "reboots" and similar nonsense were expected. However, now some people are still trying to present the really difficult conversation of the presidents in all senses as a kind of “fateful milestone” on the way to a “new Yalta”. That is, the achievement between Russia and the "collective West" of some kind of agreement on mutually acceptable contours of the world order.

To our great regret, in this case, if historical parallels suggest themselves, then they are of a completely different kind. Biden (or any other politician from Washington) is certainly not Hitler in any way, and the US is not the Third Reich at all. Nevertheless, the general tendency makes us experience an extremely unpleasant "deja vu" - the same advance to the East, to our borders, and not with peaceful and friendly intentions. Attempts to "appease at any cost" the "Aryans" who have just begun to declare their geopolitical appetites have cost the world dearly. Our country, by the way, did not take part in the infamous Munich Agreement, but also tried to delay the moment of the collision as much as possible. Isn't something similar happening now - something that will later have to be bitterly regretted? Let's try to figure it out.



"Spirit of Geneva, come!"


The "spirit of Geneva", which the "high contracting parties" intend to "preserve" in their relations and attempts to resolve the contradictions between them, is said in the official statement of the press service of Vladimir Putin, published at the end of the summit. What is meant specifically by this is deeply incomprehensible, but it sounds beautiful. True, an appeal to spirits and the like would be more suitable for a spiritualistic seance, and not for a conversation between heads of state who are already on the very thin edge of a full-scale conflict. In this situation, specifics would look much better. But the trouble is that things are not very good with her. If we try to impartially compare the statements made at the end of the meeting by the White House and the Kremlin, then willy-nilly we will have to admit that each of its participants diligently and firmly "led his party", in fact, completely discordant with his own counterpart. There was no "duet" - there were two "solos".

For example, our president came up with a proposal to "zero", without delay, all those prohibitions and restrictions on the activities of the missions of the two countries, to which the "diplomatic war" between Washington and Moscow, which has been going on for many years, has led. At the same time, Vladimir Vladimirovich did not fail to mention that it was started by the American side, which began to massively expel employees of our embassy and consular offices, openly and grossly interfere with their normal activities. Everything that Russia did was just an inevitable and forced "mirror response". Alas, as it was sung in the famous song, "and in response - silence." Apparently, the current head of the White House and his administration have no intention of either admitting their own mistakes or working to correct them. Moreover, together with the Kremlin. Not a very good sign, frankly.

However, no matter what the press releases say about the leaders' discussion of topical issues of our time, such as the Iranian nuclear program or cyber security, everyone understands that most of the time it was about the situation that has developed around Ukraine. Rather, that "acute crisis" on its borders, which, in fact, was "created" exclusively by the efforts of the American State Department and a whole host of its "volunteers" in the face of the Western media and some European politicians... Again, it’s not in the “non-profit”, by and large the point here, but in the fact that it has been turned into a kind of symbol, rather even a fetish in the confrontation between Russia and the “collective West”, which is now unfolding in all its breadth and power.

Be that as it may, but on this issue, apparently, the dialogue did not work out - followed by two emotional monologues in the style "each about his own". And if Putin tried to convince his interlocutor using concrete examples that the “destructive” and even openly “provocative” policy of Kiev was the “stumbling block” for establishing a lasting peace in Donbass, then Biden stubbornly bent his own way. The American leader insisted solely on the fact that the movements of Russian troops on Russian territory were "threatening" and abundantly threatened with sanctions. In response, Vladimir Vladimirovich said that responsibility should not be shifted to our country in any case, and again referred to the "military development of Ukrainian territory by NATO forces", insisting on its complete unacceptability for Moscow. Was he heard? It is highly doubtful. Do you understand? No doubt about it, no. It is to this conclusion that the analysis of statements made subsequently by representatives of various "branches" of the US administration forces us to come.

Victory for Nord Stream 2? Do not flatter yourself


It should be noted that the White House, for example, several times made changes and additions to the "final communique" on the talks. And if the first version of the text could still be considered moderately aggressive, then the further, the more distinctly "hawkish notes" became in it. Particular emphasis was placed on the fact that Biden allegedly "warned" Putin about "military assistance" to be provided to the United States "in the event of Russian aggression" not only to Ukraine, but also to "other countries of Eastern Europe", in particular the Baltic states, and also Poland and Romania. Was it just a response to the thesis about the "non-proliferation" of the North Atlantic Alliance to the East - or am I misunderstanding something?

The US State Department also did not stand aside, whose representatives in the most vivid colors tried to set out "hellish sanctions" threatening our country in the event of an invasion, right up to the notorious "disconnection from world payment systems", which, as the State Department pledged meaningfully, " will certainly affect every Russian ”. A wonderful repertoire of threats and ultimatums - not exactly new, but filled with great enthusiasm. Yes, Vladimir Putin did not ask, but demanded from Biden "legally enshrined guarantees" that NATO strike weapons and its bases would not appear in the countries adjacent to Russia. Nevertheless, the American president once again stressed that there could be no talk of any guarantees, and the Kremlin's "red lines" were unacceptable to him as such. Against this background, everything else, frankly, looks nothing more than verbal husk and empty shaking of air. In fact, Russia is unequivocally denied the right to any "vital interests" and "spheres of influence." This is the main thing.

"Nord Stream 2" ... Well, yes, yes, of course - the fact that the draft defense budget presented exactly after the presidential summit in the US Congress completely lacks items on sanctions against this "national treasure" of ours is already being submitted as a "huge victory for Moscow." Moreover, this moment gave some people a reason to voice absolutely schizophrenic theories from the field of conspiracy theories of the worst kind: supposedly the whole story with the "Russian invasion of Ukraine" was originally conceived and played out like cunning Biden and Putin. Target? The first was hungry for the laurels of the "peacemaker" who managed to "prevent a military crisis in Europe" and was able to leave Nord Stream-2 alone without "losing face." Well, and ours, of course, sought the final "green light" for the launch of the gas pipeline. I will allow myself to spoil this dubious quality "honey" with a fair amount of tar. "Victory" in this situation was ensured exclusively by the cold approaching to Europe.

Washington is well aware that if the local countries really lack Russian energy and the topic of their presence or absence turns from a political issue into a matter of physical survival for millions of people, any "agreed upon in the spirit of Euro-Atlantic unity" sanctions will go to waste. Together with "unity" itself, by the way. It is economically unprofitable for the Americans to save the “allies” who give the oak tree by supplying their own LNG. It is much easier to make a "broad gesture", while making it clear once again that Europe really depends on the goodwill of the United States in all serious issues, and not on some kind of Russian pipe. Moreover, if necessary, it can be plugged up later.

One could speak of a "new Yalta" if, following the summit, Joe Biden clearly and distinctly stated that neither Ukraine nor Georgia would ever become members of the North Atlantic Alliance. If the American military stationed in the same Baltic states received the order to pack their belongings. If only the return of our diplomats to Washington was announced and the start of large-scale negotiations between the United States and Russia at the level of foreign ministers, the Ministry of Defense and other departments in order to resolve at least the most painful and complex issues, of which a real "critical mass" has already accumulated between the countries. None of this is, and, apparently, is not expected.

In fact, the United States makes it clear to our country: we are ready not to particularly infringe on your economic interests (if they coincide with the interests of our allies), but nothing more. Geopolitics will be created by the "collective West", and you have to either "fit" yourself into its framework, or to know the full weight of its anger. The status of a "gas station country" (or, if you prefer, a "gas hub")? Alas, yes. It is absolutely impossible to see anything else in the results of the summit meeting held on the eve, no matter how much one would like. "Teams of both presidents" will conduct "consultations on sensitive issues for the two countries"? Well, this is called "agreed to negotiate."

At the same time, the situation is moving towards the stage at which any agreements (and, in fact, "appeasement" of Washington for the sake of its refusal to introduce a new portion of anti-Russian sanctions) Moscow will be able to achieve exclusively through direct surrender of its national interests. As much as someone would not like to see something different in the presidential summit, but this is perhaps its main and most disappointing result.
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  1. -17
    8 December 2021 13: 56
    I listed everything correctly, did not miss anything. Putin did not even dare to repeat to Biden's eyes about the loss of Ukraine's statehood. Putin only listened to the ultimatums that Biden put to him. Shame, not the president!
    1. +5
      8 December 2021 14: 16
      pour this character in stretched leggings a glass of surrogate, let him calm down
      A disgrace, not a Soviet lyudina, she completely lost her face

      Only he can write seditiousness against the Commander of the Russian Army from withdrawal against the background of the absence of Royal, the 90s will not be released in any way
      1. -6
        8 December 2021 14: 27
        write sedition against the Commander

        The article should be read, not my comment! Or is there a lot of letters in the article, too lazy to read?
        1. +2
          8 December 2021 14: 30
          Well, you still tell me what to do. Get drunk better. Come on from the list of concessions from Putin. You wrote something vague about ultimatums there.

          Here's my list:
          The US Congress removed sanctions against SP-2 and sovereign debt and 35 individuals immediately after a conversation between Putin and the bunker grandfather.

          Has Russia already pushed its troops away from the borders with Ukraine, closed the Baltimore airfield? Gave away the Crimea? Have rolled back the economic integration of Donbass? Have our Russian passports canceled there? Let’s write a letter — just let’s go after the fact — without your blue emotional slurred speech of yours. And then you are like a communist rashkin - except for slurry nothing in fact

          why are you keeping silent now? you read the article
          1. +7
            8 December 2021 20: 55
            the fact that your utter rudeness and insults to opponents do not cause a ban speaks for itself what you are doing here. Well, yes, a joke with your occupation.

            Here's my list:
            US Congress removed sanctions against SP-2 and sovereign debt and 35 individuals immediately after the conversation

            In exchange for what? In syshya their syshyashny pop from their bell tower, even airs for nothing, doesn’t sport - FACT!
            35 PERSONS ??? The names of these 35 "Ocean's friends" are not for an hour Beridaska, Badramovich Mroterberg and so on. Matanins? Those. you claim that the state interests paid for the lifting of sanctions from individuals? Oh how!
        2. -2
          8 December 2021 22: 03
          steelmaker from zhmerinka, your mriyas are very important to us))) continue observing from your ipsoshny sofa)))
    2. -2
      8 December 2021 20: 53
      Stalevar, were you present during the conversation? If not, then I do not trust you steel brews. You won't be able to do it well.
    3. +4
      9 December 2021 00: 40
      You, as I understand it, were the third in the negotiations.
    4. -2
      11 December 2021 06: 32
      Putin only listened to the ultimatums that Biden put to him.

      You were also broadcast on this channel and you listened to what they said there, declaring so.
  2. +2
    8 December 2021 15: 06
    The US is not interested in warming relations with Russia, why would they? They provoke Russia by the "development of Ukraine by NATO", forcing us to react, which in turn is used by them to aggravate Europe, in the hope of rallying Europe around them (to become an irreplaceable leader and defender of Europe, to force Europe to join the ranks of the anti-Chinese coalition concurrently). How should Russia react to this? To convey to the European public the insidious plan of the Anglo-Saxons, which will obviously cause enormous damage to European economies, their security and bring benefits to the United States in material and political terms. This obvious and simple fact needs to be relayed as much as possible through all channels, so that in Europe the processes of realizing the US insidiousness towards them begin. To break the false narrative of the United States, or even better to present England as the main instigator.
    We do not know what the United States is actually trying to achieve from Russia, what they were talking about there. Now the actions and words of the United States are still very different. Perhaps Putin and Biden are playing their own game, which is still incomprehensible to us (given the opposition to Biden within the United States).
    Russia does not seem to be seeking a collapse of the Ukrainian regime (by allowing it to buy electricity from Belarus), possibly fearing a Ukrainian invasion of Donbas. Russia may be waiting for a change of power there, a freeze of the conflict, but this will not solve the problem itself. The freeze of the conflict is a continuation of the 7-year "war", the supply of NATO weapons, the expansion of NATO's presence (which we hear about all the time). The Anglo-Saxons by their actions provoke Russia to resolve the issue now. But we will not do this. Let's wait a little more for the deterioration of the situation in Ukraine, a change of power - which will force the United States to choose: to give the go-ahead for the invasion of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Donbas (a very dangerous scenario, it may not work and scare Europe away from the United States) or try to control the next government in the same spirit. Russia is waiting for Ukraine to disintegrate while trying to contain NATO in Ukraine.
    1. +3
      8 December 2021 15: 41
      Russia does not seem to be seeking the collapse of the Ukrainian regime (by allowing it to buy electricity from Belarus),

      This electricity is used by NATO to build their military bases in Ukraine. + to this one more question - Whose fuel and lubricants does the military equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine work on?
      What are the names of those enterprises in the Russian Federation and Belarus that strengthen the military power of NATO and the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Ukraine?
    2. +1
      11 December 2021 06: 41
      The United States and Europe have contradictions, but they are made of the same dough and their goal is to destroy the Slavic super-ethnos.
      They want to destroy it since ancient times, as the ancestors of today's Western Europeans destroyed almost all the aborigines of Europe, invading Europe from North Africa about 5000 years ago.
      The remnants of the indigenous population of Europe fled to the East and were taken under the protection of our ancestors.
      Then the Slavs were born from this community.
  3. -1
    8 December 2021 15: 23
    Try to understand.

    Let's try.

    If we try to impartially compare the statements made at the end of the meeting by the White House and the Kremlin, then willy-nilly we will have to admit that each of its participants diligently and firmly "led his party", in fact, completely discordant with his own counterpart. There was no "duet" - there were two "solos".

    You yourself wrote a little higher, no one expected any breakthroughs, everyone turned out to be right in their forecasts. smile
    There was a banal reconciliation of positions through the "unspoiled telephone" of any "special representatives" like Nuland.

    Victory for Nord Stream 2? Do not flatter yourself.

    And no one is deceived. winked
    The United States does not need SP-2; it is their competitor.
    The emphasis on the American side is clear and understandable.

    We will find out whether Europe needs it by the end of this winter.

    Vladimir Putin did not ask, but demanded from Biden "legally enshrined guarantees" that NATO strike weapons and its bases would not appear in the countries adjacent to Russia. Nevertheless, the American president once again emphasized that there can be no talk of any guarantees, and the "red lines" of the Kremlin are unacceptable for him as such. Against this background, everything else, frankly, looks nothing more than verbal husk and empty shaking of air. In fact, Russia is unequivocally denied the right to any "vital interests" and "spheres of influence." This is the main thing.

    The US President once again stressed his incapacity for negotiation.
    That's not news .
    Knowing how the new US presidents easily abandon the previous agreements, and the Senate and Congress no less easily block all the "promises" of the inhabitants of the White House, a natural question arises as to how it is generally possible to negotiate with these "gentlemen" without a good Colt in the 21st century upgrade. ...

    "Nord Stream 2" ... Well, yes, yes, of course - the fact that the draft defense budget presented exactly after the presidential summit in the US Congress completely lacks items on sanctions against this "national treasure" of ours is already being submitted as a "huge victory for Moscow."

    A banal carrot for a naive donkey.
    He hopes that the "darkest" will behave somehow completely stupid on the American side.


    In fact, the United States makes it clear to our country: we are ready not to infringe on your economic interests (if they coincide with the interests of our allies), but nothing more. Geopolitics will be created by the "collective West", and you have to either "fit" yourself into its framework, or to know the full weight of its anger.

    The author (personally) was expecting something different ??
    Themselves in the title indicated that no one "expects breakthroughs."
    Everything goes on as usual.

    PS Here only geopolitics in the coming years will be created not by the dying "collective West", but by rapidly developing Asia. smile
  4. -3
    8 December 2021 17: 45
    The most important word is zeroing. The second main word is that the Americans stormed and took Berlin. We won the Battle of Stalingrad, the Kursk Bulge and much more. And Japan was bombed by Stalin.
  5. -3
    8 December 2021 20: 09
    a rare case when I completely disagree with Necropny. It's too early to draw conclusions, Alexander! One gets the impression that you were personally present at the negotiations. Nobody knows what Putin and Biden were talking about. Information is zero. General words only. I will write about real cases a little later. Believe me, not everything is as bad as you presented here. The text will be released in a day. My name is "The results of the Putin-Biden summit: SP-2 will be launched in March, World War III is canceled, the war for Ukraine too. All with NG!"
  6. +2
    8 December 2021 20: 26
    choosing shame, between shame and war, you will get both shame and war (s)
    for some reason, I see what is happening in the world like this
  7. +1
    8 December 2021 20: 50
    I will not even talk about what someone said. But the fact that "five to one" does not remind you of anything from life?
  8. -6
    8 December 2021 22: 43
    Our country, by the way, did not take part in the infamous Munich Agreement, but also tried to delay the moment of the collision as much as possible.

    I tried so hard, I tried so hard that I signed the Non-Aggression Pact and the Treaty of Friendship and Borders with Adolf, but all these attempts gave almost zero result.

    VVP said best of all about the negotiations with Biden:

    The conversation was open, substantive and constructive.
  9. -3
    9 December 2021 00: 12
    The West perfectly understood the weak positions of the Kremlin and how to talk to it now.
    If, for the sake of the Nord Stream, the Kremlin has meekly surrendered Ukraine to all the enemies of Russia, then
    business interests drive power in Russia.
    It is for the business interests of the "elite" that the Kremlin will be firmly held, achieving the desired result.
    And SP-2, in the event of an aggravation in Ukraine, the US-Britain will be ordered to shut down and shut down in one day.
    And the military bases of the West will work around the Crimea and in the Sea of ​​Azov - and this cannot be changed or corrected. The West will not leave Ukraine, it will be for a long time.
    And the population of Ukraine, for dollars, will engage in subversive and terrorist activities inside Russia. And this, too, cannot be changed or corrected.
    That is why the US President can calmly talk with Putin.
    What can the Kremlin do now?
  10. -2
    9 December 2021 00: 35
    Alexander, they just did not say about the most important and interesting things, which is understandable. Do not panic.
  11. 0
    9 December 2021 07: 02
    Comrade uncroppable thickened the colors. As usual. The Yankees are testing the waters, no more. Why? Because they need to mobilize resources against China and a guarantee that Russia will not rake the EU under itself while they are fighting for domination with China. They are trying to use Ukraine as a bargaining chip. Deshovka coin. No guarantee given. Topics for further negotiations identified. Round one is over. The second round will be no earlier than February 22. And time is not on the side of the United States.
  12. +1
    9 December 2021 07: 56
    Necropic in this text absolutely unreasonably pulled by the ears to compare the conversation that took place and the historic meeting in Yalta and the Munich Agreement. According to the logic of those distant events and the logic of recent months, I see nothing in common. The alignment of forces and means in the world is now completely different. Therefore, the text looks somehow tortured.
  13. -3
    9 December 2021 09: 29
    If (most likely) Russia is defeated within 5 minutes from the territory of Ukraine and the Baltic states, then this inglorious end has a surname. Everyone knows her.
    The Georgian announcer spoke about this and they repeat it at the stadiums of Europe. In Russia itself, it is also not good to remember.
    1. 0
      10 December 2021 01: 15
      the thing is that it won't, and the running of the Biden and others like them, right before the Olympics in Beijing, shows exactly what the "Bolsheviks" warned them about, the alliance of China and Russia, has become even more real. Both China and Russia were handed a memorandum with a clear indication that the supporters of a unipolar world no longer have confidence. And the Biden did it. So now, in the role of a monkey from a Chinese parable, some dude from Tierra del Fuego, if the Polish colonialists have not yet shot him.
  14. -7
    9 December 2021 13: 28
    In the Russian Federation, the official legend is the Soviet version of the "history"; this is unacceptable for Ukraine. Therefore, Ukraine will arm itself and strive for military alliances that will help it avoid the tragedy of the 20th century. The USSR had a period of stability and comparative normality: when the Ukrainians were in power in Moscow. After the ouster of Ukrainians in 1985, the fate of the empire was sealed.
    1. +3
      9 December 2021 18: 19
      Well, tell me more, Ukrainians, that Russia stole history from the Hohland ..)
    2. +2
      9 December 2021 22: 46
      The USSR had a period of stability and comparative normality: when the Ukrainians were in power in Moscow. After the ouster of Ukrainians in 1985, the fate of the empire was sealed.

      This is ghostly, about "Ukrainians".
      Delirium of a syvy gelding.
    3. +2
      10 December 2021 02: 22
      damn, well, you and a storyteller, decisions were made by comrade Khrushchev, being in Ukraine, and being the secretary of the Communist Party of Ukraine,
      with "Holodomor" you constantly fuss with photos of farmers from Kansas of the same year. This only proves that there was famine throughout the Northern Hemisphere in the steppe regions. That is, there was a Holodomor, but it affected the United States, Ukraine and Russia, and what does Moscow have to do with it? Is it that God lives in Moscow, or a world government? your second thesis ... Khrushchev, guilty of the massive repressions that angered even Stalin, the words "calm down ..." belong to him, brought a lot of happiness to Ukraine as general secretary? Throw away your delirium, and do not return to it.
  15. +2
    9 December 2021 18: 17
    What else can a country demanding that is conducting a targeted deindustrialization, which has become a supplier of raw materials and piles up its money in the West ?! She was shown, without any curtsies, her place, and Putin can say anything and express any "concerns" and speak out about the "unacceptability" of the actions of the "partners."
  16. +1
    10 December 2021 01: 10
    the author is well done, no matter how much the descendants of the cold war hawks may accuse us of revanchism, they are the revanchists - in a vain attempt to prove that they are no worse than the fathers who "won the cold war." As a result, no one believes them, neither from ancient Afghanistan, nor to any "European", whatever that means. They are exactly what is worse than their fathers, and Biden is no exception. They tried to build the most violent and global empire in history, and they failed.
  17. +1
    10 December 2021 10: 16
    Anyone who even hints that this is a "new Yalta" is definitely stoned with something obscene and has delirium with glitches. And not "Munich" either. Exchange of views and threats. We did not agree on anything, except that we will pretend that we will try, for example, we will create commissions ...
  18. 0
    11 December 2021 06: 30
    These were negotiations between representatives of two hostile and incompatible surreal ethnic groups - Western European and Slavic. The only insult is that all the Slavic states (except Serbia) have become allies of the Western Europeans.
    East Germany was formerly inhabited by Slavs, but Western Europeans destroyed them and another name for this territory - "Slavic cemetery".
    If the West Europeans manage to defeat Russia, then its territory and the territory of other Slavic states will be exactly the same Slavic cemetery as East Germany.
    It is people who are fighting for a food base for themselves and their descendants, and states are only an instrument in such a struggle.

    Western Europeans are in a hurry. After all, Russia now has a weapon with which the defeat of the West Europeans is inevitable.

    But such weapons are LITTLE, LITTLE, LITTLE. The West is in a hurry to bring Russia to its knees.

    And if such weapons were enough, then the "Poseidons" could be deployed along the US coast in the Pacific and Atlantic oceans, around Great Britain, off the coast of France and Germany.
    Rockets "Burevestnik", hypersonic complexes "Dagger", Zirkon "could strike at the bases of nuclear submarines, at missile silos, at AUG, etc.

    Hypersonic missiles would destroy enemy ballistic missiles right after launch. complexes "Peresvet", S-500, S-400 could destroy on-approach ballistic missiles and military satellites.
    A ballistic missile with hypersonic warheads "Avangard" would have fought in the destruction of military facilities of Western Europeans.

    With a sufficient number of such weapons, one could declare an udtimatum and demand that the West Europeans destroy all offensive weapons.
    Only in this case, the peoples of Russia can feel safe.
    But we have LITTLE of such weapons for today. Few.
  19. +1
    11 December 2021 06: 43
    This is after the talks between Putin and Biden.

    The United States launched a new confrontational round, demanding 55 Russian diplomats to leave the country, said Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov. Moscow passed on "mirror requirements", he said

    https://www.rbc.ru/politics/10/12/2021/61b34cda9a7947c15d0ea018
  20. +1
    11 December 2021 13: 15
    It is a pity there is no OUR Uncle Joe on Joe, oh, how not enough !!!
  21. 0
    13 December 2021 17: 47
    Everything is correct. Exchanging ultimatums for regrets. The policy of Russia, when instead of force we fight with regrets, leads to the fact that even Moldova kicks out Russia after they gave discounts on gas. There are almost no countries left that do not consider it a rule of good form to spit in the face of Russia every day. When we have strength, we don’t show it, like in Donbass, which Russia has been betraying for 7 years in order to fulfill the Minsk agreements, we don’t even supply weapons there, although the entire West sends weapons to Kiev.
  22. 0
    26 December 2021 10: 56
    No need to go to the side. They don't offer us to fit in anywhere. Maybe we should have been tougher: to demand the dissolution of NATO, as an organization that does not fulfill its Charter (Treaty).
    The cries of Ukraine about what they themselves have the right to decide are for suckers. According to its Charter, NATO is invited to join NATO. So we tell them: do not invite any more.
    We do not demand anything from them beyond their Charter. We only demand to comply with the Charter. To troll them, they would need to send another open letter with the requirement to comply with their Charter.
    Now we are in a position: who will take it. We must make sure that we win again, as in 45m, otherwise we will be torn apart.