Why Russia's course towards anti-Sovietism is deliberately doomed


VTsIOM reports that 21% of Russians associate the era of the USSR with faith in a bright future, calmness and confidence in the future, 10% - with the brotherhood of peoples, 8% each - with a good education, a happier life and great leaders (Lenin, Stalin, Brezhnev ) and only 1% - with repression and gulag.


It is even difficult to imagine how many creative forces, crisp dollars, oligarchic and budgetary rubles have been spent over the past 30-40 years on the ideological indoctrination of our people in order to instill in them hatred of the Soviet regime, of its own Soviet past. Liberals of all stripes are biting their elbows again: no matter how many articles and books, films and TV series, performances and exhibitions about the horrors of the USSR are created, this “stupid people” still remembers, loves, honors the Soviet past. Truly impenetrable people, nothing takes them.

Propagandists and agitators, liars and falsifiers do not take into account such an extremely stable phenomenon as popular memory. It is sometimes said that history is written by the winners. And this is partly true: you can write, shoot, tell, clearly show anything you want. Paper, film, museum hall and theater stages will hold up. Those who control the information space in society as winners do just that. But not all of that written history finds a response in the public consciousness. Generations have changed, but it has not been possible to wipe out the Soviet period from the soul of our people.

It is in vain that some people think that in Ukraine or in the Baltic states, the peoples without exception share the official position of their governments regarding the Soviet period, they simply do not allow such polls there. The past, all the more covered with heroism, true nationality, cannot be erased from the people's memory, no matter how strong and domineering "winner" you are.

In the early years of Soviet power, there were also people who wanted to "throw Pushkin off the steamer of our time," and with him forever turn the heroic pages of the past. However, contrary to popular misconceptions that the Bolsheviks considered “history policiesoverturned into the past ”, this political line was never the official position of the Soviet state. On the contrary, the Soviet government beat on the hands of those who, under the guise of political expediency, encroached on historical truth and people's memory. Soviet power in this aspect can only be imputed to the struggle against semi-feudal traditions and religion.

Our anti-Soviet liberals, both in power and in deep opposition, just like the Trotskyists of the 1920s-1930s, believe that history is politics overturned into the past. They are convinced that in order to strengthen the current market system, it is necessary to make the people hate the USSR. To do this, they create an image of a country immersed in terror, totalitarianism, queues, dullness and wretchedness. However, VTsIOM states that the pressure of anti-Sovietism not only does not give the desired result, but causes a backlash among the people.

Anti-Soviet Russia


Modern Russia, under the strict guidance of Western forces, was created as an anti-Soviet state. But by the mid-1990s, it became obvious that the historical and spiritual continuity of anti-Soviet Russia was somehow not enviable. The royal power that led the country from catastrophe to catastrophe. An impotent interim government, white-collar losers, bankrupt left-wing democratic opposition and collaborators. The ideologues of anti-Sovietism were never able to make a definite choice between these historical "vectors", therefore they are still rushing about, either praising the tsar or whitewashing Kolchak and Vlasov.

It is amazing that people who accuse the Bolsheviks of financing by the Kaiser are trying to grope for the continuity of modern power in political forces that were not just anti-people, but to one degree or another controlled by Western countries, which at every historical period only wanted Russia to be destroyed.

Scientifically, in the early 1990s, we destroyed the socialist social system and built a capitalist one. This was the second experience of capitalism in our land. Tsarist Russia, remaining politically a feudal country, in terms of economics, starting in 1861, also switched to a liberal model, both in industry and in agriculture. Just as the young Russian capitalism of the early XNUMXth century possessed the originality and specificity of "feudal remnants", so the young Russian capitalism of the XNUMXst century possesses the originality and specificity of "socialist remnants". The objectivity of this moment cannot be understood in any way by our anti-Soviet liberals, who everywhere in Russia see the despicable "scoop". The people are not like that, the officials are not like that, the Chekists are everywhere, the deputies are not the same, and even our businessmen are wrong. Everything here is crooked and oblique, not like in textbooks and manuals on building "normal democracy".

Moreover, no matter how anyone relates to socialism, no matter what controversy this system may cause, scientific and not very, the fact remains that it was under socialism that our people reached the highest point of development. Based on this, the course towards anti-Soviet ideology is deliberately doomed, and not only in Russia, but also in Ukraine, the Baltic states and other former republics of the USSR.

Sovietism of the people


Many people notice that the more time has passed since the collapse of the USSR, the stronger, deeper and more pronounced the realization comes, even to our government, that certain elements of socialism need to be revived. Either Putin will declare that our "welfare state" is almost socialism, then Bastrykin will call for the abolition of the USE and the return of the Soviet education system, then even the patented liberals from the Higher School of Economics remember the Semashko system with a kind word.

It is difficult for young Russian capitalism to get along with the people, who, each poll, are increasingly expressing their desire to return the USSR. Therefore, you have to adapt to the demands of the public. That is why a demand has arisen in society for a strong state and a leader who, at least in part, will put him at the service not of bankers, businessmen and oligarchs, but of ordinary people. And Vladimir Vladimirovich satisfies this request relatively successfully. This is the specificity of our model of capitalism, conditioned by the objective historical conditions of its formation.

Another thing is that there is nothing wise in comparing different social systems and different historical eras from the point of view of the question “where is it better to live”. First, you can't bring back the past. Secondly, our person needs to think not about where and how best to settle down, but about what specifically to do here and now. Thirdly, the question is not where, to whom and how it is better and more comfortable to live, but what criteria are to be understood as economic and social efficiency. We need a strong socialist power with a powerful industry, or we don’t want to plow, but dream of being speculators, bloggers, rentiers, we appreciate the opportunity to “get out” from the army, “jump off” with traffic cops, travel across Europe, and so on. Now, if the question was posed to the respondents with such an edge, it seems that the results could be different. That is why our popular Sovietism is like this, somewhat elven.
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  1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 8 December 2021 08: 18
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    ... We need a strong socialist power with a powerful industry, or we don’t want to plow, but dream of being speculators, bloggers, rentiers, we appreciate the opportunity to “get out” from the army, “jump off” with traffic cops, travel across Europe, and so on. Now, if the question was posed to the respondents with such an edge, it seems that the results could be different. That is why our popular Sovietism is like this, somewhat elven.

    The funny thing is that people want to go back to the USSR, because for the most part they have already realized that they cannot be neither rentiers, nor successful video bloggers, nor speculators. With a capsystem, this is the lot of successful units.
    The desire to get away from the army, where you can be killed, maimed or killed, became especially strong among young people after the beginning of the 90s. The topic of traffic cops and bribery put on industrial rails is also a topic of "young democracy".
    As for traveling around Europe, that's great, but let's be honest: the "iron curtain" was closed in front of us from the other side, not ourselves. So the claims are not about social. system, but to our western partners. By the way, despite the "curtain", they traveled to Europe and the USSR.
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 8 December 2021 13: 13
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      By the way, despite the "curtain", they traveled to Europe and the USSR.

      Fedot, but not the same. We traveled to socialist countries, less often to capital countries (for residents of large cities). In groups, in no case individually. Pay attention to the interview of Klim Shipenko’s mother and grandmother. Before flying into orbit. On Channel One, on Let speak with the presenter Dmitry Borisov. Grandmother began to remember how they had a rest with little Klim in the Tatras. But they quickly gagged her. Before the trip, for example to Bulgaria, candidates were considered at the trade union committee, at the desks and the Komsomol meeting. Ruble was exchanged only for souvenirs. uncontrolled meetings, even with residents of socialist countries. Only after a trip, without remarks, to Bulgaria or Romania, was it allowed to go to Yugoslavia. Then to Hungary. And only after Hungary and Yugoslavia, they were allowed to take a tour to Germany. Then it was possible to go to France, to the UK. And as a result, to the USA. Only in Miami. Sometimes they changed direction to Mexico. Prices for a tour to Bulgaria 220 rubles, to Yugoslavia 320 rubles, to Germany 600 rubles, to the United Kingdom 800 rubles, in the USA 1200 rubles.
      Holders of Sovtur vouchers traveled more comfortably, in tiny groups, not for everyone, they changed more currencies.

      There are colossal amounts of money in the system for issuing the correct military tickets, which is why this topic has become actively hushed up. A full package for excuse from the delights of military service costs, on average, 3500 euros.
      1. Petrucho Offline Petrucho
        Petrucho (Peter) 8 December 2021 22: 33
        +1
        Cool, you outlined the hierarchy of trips here. I'm wondering if this is a rich life experience or a deep study of the issue from sources? I can not argue, tk. only my childhood and youth passed in the Union, but I know for sure that my mother traveled to the GDR in the early 80s and, as far as I know, she did not have to travel to those countries that you listed before. And she was an ordinary engineer in the rationalization department at the plant, and knowing her, I doubt that she could have had any kind of cronyism.
        1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
          gunnerminer (gunner miner) 9 December 2021 11: 38
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          You did not read the text carefully. Before going to the capitalist countries, we went to the socialist countries. To the capitalist countries we went after an interview in the territorial body of the KGB. Plus a trade union meeting, and a party or Komsomol meeting for members of these organizations.

          And she was an ordinary engineer in the rationalization department at the plant, and knowing her, I doubt that she could have had any kind of cronyism.

          Read the text slowly.
  2. Miffer Offline Miffer
    Miffer (Sam Miffers) 8 December 2021 08: 22
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    this "stupid people" still remember, love, honor the Soviet past. Truly impenetrable people, nothing takes them.

    Only people aged 45+ can say anything about the USSR. And if that person did not find the USSR, then he can only retell other people's opinions and other people's tales.

    I have different memories of the USSR: there were both good and bad. And further. Most people confuse longing for a bygone childhood and youth with longing for an "unbreakable Union", and these are completely different things.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 8 December 2021 08: 26
      +7
      You know, fairy tales are different.
      I like one expression: "The younger the video blogger, the worse his life was under Stalin."
      Ignorance, multiplied by an uncritical perception of evil anti-Soviet fairy tales based on false theses of Western propaganda, gives such a depressing result. Yurka Dud, hello!
      1. Miffer Offline Miffer
        Miffer (Sam Miffers) 8 December 2021 08: 40
        +2
        Since I found the USSR, I can distinguish a fairy tale from an epic.
        "False theses of Western propaganda" is, of course, wonderful, but they had a grain of truth in them. And there was also Soviet counter-propaganda, which was often unsuccessful among the population.

        Finally, in order to talk about a subject, you need to decide on the place and time.
        The USSR of the twenties and thirties is one thing, the USSR of the seventies is quite another.
        The professor at the University of Tartu perceived reality in a completely different way from the Kyrgyz shepherd. Therefore, as many people as there are opinions.
        And the opinion of various juvenile dudes does not interest me at all.
        1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
          Marzhecki (Sergei) 8 December 2021 08: 42
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          "False theses of Western propaganda" is, of course, wonderful, but they had a grain of truth in them. And there was also Soviet counter-propaganda, which was often unsuccessful among the population.

          Demagogy.

          And the opinion of various juvenile dudes does not interest me at all.

          This football ignoramus with his head full of nonsense is brainwashing millions of teenagers. This is problem.

          Do I understand correctly that you changed the USSR to Israel, where you are now?
          1. Miffer Offline Miffer
            Miffer (Sam Miffers) 8 December 2021 09: 11
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            I noticed a long time ago: if something goes beyond your stereotypes, it is called "demagoguery" or "vyvsevreti", so I will not talk to you.

            You misunderstand, as does almost everything around.
            1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
              Marzhecki (Sergei) 8 December 2021 09: 20
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              Oh, where do I go. smile
              But seriously, my level of education and self-education allows me to distinguish truth from falsehood and to be above stereotypes. Rather, it is you and your ilk who are trapped in stereotypes.
              By the way, you did not answer, are you from the repatriates?
              1. Miffer Offline Miffer
                Miffer (Sam Miffers) 8 December 2021 13: 10
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                Seriously, the level of your education is the behind-the-ear and correspondence departments of the muhocranian pedagogical institutes, the graduation of which gives you the opportunity to swell like a turkey with a sense of your own greatness. By the way, a normal, educated and well-mannered person will never emphasize his superiority so clearly.

                I'm from Russia.
          2. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
            gunnerminer (gunner miner) 8 December 2021 13: 23
            -1
            This football ignoramus with his head full of nonsense is brainwashing millions of teenagers. This is problem.

            Be more qualified than Sevka Novgorodtsev in terms of questions.
      2. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 8 December 2021 13: 22
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        Propaganda VOA, DW, BBC, Europe, Free Europe worked much more qualified, attracted famous writers, actors, mobilized rock and pop stars. They worked especially actively with younger draft age groups. With feedback. Soviet cloth propaganda was more straightforward and primitive. Posner brought it to life on TV, but it was too late, the USSR was over.
        Although in private conversations, the Danes, the British, the Germans talked about how they listened to Soviet radio programs at an early conscription and pre-conscription age.
    2. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 8 December 2021 09: 11
      +2
      I have different memories of the USSR: there were both good and bad. And further. Most people confuse longing for a bygone childhood and youth with longing for an "unbreakable Union", and these are completely different things.

      good
      1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 8 December 2021 13: 26
        -3
        Running around the shops (just ended, only in packages, not delivered) for milk, standing in line for meat (two kilos in hand) for hours, and then with a smirk listen to speeches about space flight, and about successes in the development of the national economy.
      2. Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 8 December 2021 16: 46
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        Most people confuse longing for a bygone childhood and youth with longing for an "unbreakable Union", and these are completely different things.

        I am 62 years old. I'm from there too. Longing for a bygone childhood and youth does not negate the main thing that attracts us to our past.
        We love the Union for our sense of belonging to a great country, a great people who are building their future. This feeling was not naive. Thanks to him, the great achievements of the Union were created, which were and is being used by Russia. It really worked, guided a person all his life, was its objective foundation. Man was part of a huge creative whole.
        In the new Russia, which is also huge in size, this place is empty. It is filled with what in the Union was called "selfish" interests, but now they are called: cutting the "dough", cutting the "budget", etc.
        Longing for the Union is basically a longing for a properly organized, meaningful life of a person and the country as a whole.
    3. Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 8 December 2021 10: 08
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      Only people aged 45+ can say anything about the USSR. And if that person did not find the USSR, then he can only retell other people's opinions and other people's tales.

      I think - here you are wrong.
      Many times, reading the comments of young people on the watched Soviet films on YouTube, I met the same "melancholy".
      "How lucky those who lived in those years", "I envy those who lived then", and further unflattering comparisons with their lives today. Basically, they envy the involvement of their peers in the life of a huge country.
      The Soviet Union left a mark on the memory of the parents of these children and the culture that passed on to them. It cannot be "etched" by anything.
      It is much more productive to see it as a foundation that can be used to build the future. Truly light
      1. Miffer Offline Miffer
        Miffer (Sam Miffers) 8 December 2021 13: 16
        -1
        reading the comments of young people on the watched Soviet films

        Don't you understand the difference between Soviet films and real Soviet life? - Well then, you need to go to kindergarten, to the "youth".
        Normal people see distances of cosmic dimensions between the films "Kuban Cossacks" + "Pig and Shepherd" and reality.
        1. Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 8 December 2021 13: 35
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          Yes, with what with what, but with anti-Sovietism you are all right, as well as with demagoguery.
          You can set the goal to "understand", and you can - "refute".
          The results will vary.
          Only now, without "understanding" and "refuting" you normally do not succeed
      2. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 8 December 2021 13: 27
        -3
        Do not turn the minced meat back.
        1. Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 8 December 2021 14: 39
          -1
          I don't think anyone is against a bright future.
          Quote base of course.
          And you still have to roll up your sleeves. For the sake of "light", or for the sake of "black"
          1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
            gunnerminer (gunner miner) 8 December 2021 15: 39
            -4
            If they allow you to roll up your sleeves. For now, squiggles with this process.
            1. Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 8 December 2021 16: 03
              0
              Let's not roll up our sleeves - life will simply wipe Russia with us from the face of the planet. Have to
              1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                gunnerminer (gunner miner) 8 December 2021 16: 04
                -5
                Let's roll it up. The GK reminds constantly that there is no time for buildup.
    4. zenion Online zenion
      zenion (zinovy) 8 December 2021 17: 13
      +2
      I remember life well since 1950. There were a lot of shops and there were various stalls and artels of anything. In the bazaars, products from villages were exhibited. And on a special site they sold from ducklings to heifers, everyone was happy, especially with the fact that they won the war, that they began to reduce prices in stores. They sold real bread, and the price was by weight. You could buy half a loaf, or a quarter. The bakery artels sold such bread and cakes, sausage and smoked meats, drooling. There are four or more varieties of herring in barrels in stores and more varieties of different tulka. Fathers worked, mothers, looked after children. But starting from the age of five, a kindergarten was required, they were vaccinated there, taught to write and count, the student had to come to school prepared. Various games that developed muscles and brains. In general, I remember well. I also remember a new decree in relation to the police and citizens - it was forbidden to use force against the victorious people. This was until 1956. Then Khrushchev began to destroy the country and the winners were not the people, but the Communist Party, the leader and winner of all our victories. And everything rolled like a barrel off a slope. And it continues to roll. The signboard was changed, and the country is ruled by those who have ruined the country because there is no reason at any point in the body, but only the eyes that shine at night. There is a saying - a thief's eyes shine at night! The worst thing for this time: they went to and from kindergarten themselves without parents.
      1. Pink 123 Floyd 328 (Pink Floyd) 12 December 2021 00: 33
        -2
        You probably fell asleep in a lethargic dream, on the crowd scene of the film "Kuban Cossacks", or you are citing his script.
  3. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 8 December 2021 08: 55
    +1
    Very soon it may happen that the inhabitants of the Russian Federation will envy the inhabitants of China, as the inhabitants of China used to envy the inhabitants of the USSR.
    1. Vladislav N. Offline Vladislav N.
      Vladislav N. (Vlad) 8 December 2021 09: 05
      +4
      Quote: Bulanov
      Very soon it may happen that the inhabitants of the Russian Federation will envy the inhabitants of China, as the inhabitants of China used to envy the inhabitants of the USSR.

      Duc of that already. Or there in the PRC they are stupid and do not see that over the past 30 years they have gone from a hungry agrarian country to the first economy in the world in which poverty has been eliminated without the extinction of the poor, and we have gone the other way and we are invited to "treat this with understanding" ( c)?
      1. Miffer Offline Miffer
        Miffer (Sam Miffers) 8 December 2021 09: 15
        -5
        in which poverty is eradicated without the extinction of the poor

        This was said by Chairman Xi, but this does not correspond to reality at all.
        We need to start with what counts as poverty? Among the Chinese, poverty rates are fundamentally different from those of Europe.
        1. Vladislav N. Offline Vladislav N.
          Vladislav N. (Vlad) 8 December 2021 09: 20
          +1
          Quote: Miffer
          of the Chinese, poverty rates are fundamentally different from those of European

          In China, statistics twist the Cholet like a gypsy in the sun - how is it with us?
          1. Miffer Offline Miffer
            Miffer (Sam Miffers) 8 December 2021 13: 20
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            In China, statistics are used to twist the cholet

            The story with the covid has shown that they are still twisting. And they lie godlessly, hiding the real picture.
            1. Vladislav N. Offline Vladislav N.
              Vladislav N. (Vlad) 8 December 2021 13: 53
              +2
              Quote: Miffer
              The story with covid showed

              History from the so-called. kovidoy showed one thing - around all this kovidobesny whirlwind, everyone is lying and not a single word of truth on this topic has been spoken.
            2. zenion Online zenion
              zenion (zinovy) 8 December 2021 17: 19
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              So the Americans wanted to see laboratories in China. The Chinese agreed, first in China, then in the United States. The United States immediately refused, said that they were not understood, they supposedly wanted to help. In Singapore, 15 years ago, this virus began, which was called fleeting pneumonia. According to the report, American sailors brought it to Singapore. The Americans quickly hushed up this case and did not receive further distribution.
    2. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 8 December 2021 09: 25
      +3
      Very soon it may happen that the inhabitants of the Russian Federation will envy the inhabitants of China, as the inhabitants of China used to envy the inhabitants of the USSR.

      Is not a fact No. I have nothing against China, the socialist choice or the leading role of the party. And in general, the toad does not strangle, let them live like a human being.
      But if you leave ideology aside and look at the economy, things are not so rosy.
      China's economic miracle is based, so to speak, on a "great deal with the West."
      You give money and technology - we produce - you buy. Now the terms of the agreement are not being fulfilled for objective reasons and will obviously be revised. The West is simply unable to maintain demand at the same level. The Chinese economy is like a locomotive on two wheels, like a bicycle, while it rides well, but as soon as it slows down, stability problems begin.
      I recommend watching a couple of videos, especially pay attention to the numbers, and think about the prospects.
      hi


      1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
        Bulanov (Vladimir) 8 December 2021 09: 31
        +4
        The production mechanism has already started and it is difficult to stop it. China also has a huge domestic market. Even before the development of capitalism in the world, China was a world workshop for the production of goods, and Germany, England and France did not help him in this.
        1. 123 Offline 123
          123 (123) 8 December 2021 10: 47
          +3
          The production mechanism has already started and it is difficult to stop it.

          Aha yes But the demand can no longer be ensured.

          China also has a huge domestic market.

          But it does not have a comparable effective demand; it is not capable of replacing Europe and the United States. To meet domestic demand, they will have to print yuan in wagons, in general, do the same as the United States and Europe. Inflation, inflation and inflation again. If we take a simplified scheme, this trinity dispersed the economy with virtual artificial demand, now the effect of the drug wears off. We need another dose and more. Such is the economic addiction.

          Even before the development of capitalism in the world, China was a world workshop for the production of goods, and Germany, England and France did not help him in this.

          There was yes And where the disheveled Brka rushes around the island the industrial revolution and manufactures were. What is there now in Germany and France at the same time, in the second videos, the numbers very clearly show. In general, the key word was, was, were. It is not possible to live only in the past. And the future is not yet very bright, and for everyone.
          It may very well be that China will succeed, but to think that it will be easy and without shocks is probably overly optimistic. Life will show. hi
          1. zenion Online zenion
            zenion (zinovy) 8 December 2021 17: 30
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            123 (123). Have the data, or is it your decision. There was once such a decision that when the Nazis beat the Bolsheviks, beer and lard would be free. That behind the fence no one read such words for the reason that no one was allowed there. But the plan was to destroy the Jews and the Russians too, but first to emasculate, so that they would benefit the Reich. If they were on the first list, then they would be shot; in the second, in the balls with a brick. They have already tested in concentration camps what will fit and where to inject. But in the first case, it is necessary to check with X-rays and strong radiation, although this is not profitable. After three years, the slave throws back his hooves. And after injections it can live up to 60 years as barnyard, but it can be beneficial. Then - for feed to pigs, after 60. Blondes with blue eyes are producers of workers and soldiers. School - four grades, it is enough to be able to count to a hundred and sign so that employers do not steal tax money from the state.
            1. 123 Offline 123
              123 (123) 8 December 2021 19: 52
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              Have the data, or is it your decision.

              Sorry, but I do not understand what you are asking about request
      2. aquarius580 Offline aquarius580
        aquarius580 8 December 2021 10: 17
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        In China, there are massive bankruptcies of large companies. The Chinese economy is largely inflated, a bubble of gigantic loans that cannot be repaid.
        1. zenion Online zenion
          zenion (zinovy) 8 December 2021 17: 33
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          This is probably why the first holder of American money is Saudi Arabia, and the second is China. The Chinese are building cities, launching them into space. They will still be on the moon, and you will be jumping on a trampoline trying to catch up. China is so helpless that the United States had to create a new alliance, substituting, and they do not care, three countries to stay in Hell.
          1. aquarius580 Offline aquarius580
            aquarius580 9 December 2021 06: 36
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            You just have no idea about the real state of affairs in China; but I would be bored to educate you. Evergrande has built a bunch of reinforced concrete boxes that nobody needs. Now she has three hundred lard green bucks of debt, on which she is already de facto in default.
    3. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 8 December 2021 13: 27
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      Certainly. good
  4. Alexey Davydov (Alexey) 8 December 2021 09: 53
    +1
    One of the ancient Chinese wisdoms says:

    You can't block a straight line
  5. aquarius580 Offline aquarius580
    aquarius580 8 December 2021 10: 15
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    Leonid Ilyich was indeed a liberal. There was an agreement between the authorities and the people: "not to interfere in each other's affairs." I do not remember that in the USSR there was such a dirty trick as chicken codes, a ban on travel by transport, expulsion from work for refusing to inject with an unknown shmurdy, or wearing muzzles in public places. When there was an outbreak of a real, not a fictional epidemic in Moscow - in 1959 the artist Kokorekin brought smallpox to Moscow from India - the problem was solved in two months, and no one knew anything except those who were supposed to be in the service.
    Things went badly in the USSR when Leonid Ilyich began to lose his mind, after about 1975. Then the USSR got involved in a completely unnecessary war in Afghanistan, store shelves were empty, etc.
    1. Marzhecki Offline Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 8 December 2021 11: 28
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      The Leninist-Stalinist USSR was, of course, just as vile creature as Maoist China, Pol Pot Kampuchea, and so on. But after Stalin's death, a lot has changed.

      Oh well. Is this taught in Ukraine?
      1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 8 December 2021 13: 28
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        No one can teach this better than the Russian authorities.
      2. aquarius580 Offline aquarius580
        aquarius580 9 December 2021 06: 37
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        This is the real history of the USSR. Which, of course, is absent in Russian textbooks.
  6. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
    Alexndr p (Alexander) 8 December 2021 10: 17
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    in fact, no one defended the USSR, which means that no one needed it.
    30 million members of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union + the army + the KGB (those who swore to protect him) - were sitting at home.

    Therefore, we have what we have. And whining in the style: "We were deceived, we thought differently!" - this is about infantile fools who, over 70 years, the best Soviet education could not convey the advantages of communism (socialism) over capitalism

    As a result, the USSR lost the competitive struggle between states. And dropped out of the race and remained in the annals of history.

    Looking at this grumbling, there is a feeling of contempt and pity. The world has changed, the time has changed - the main thing is also not to skate the Russian Federation, otherwise just give the clowns the opportunity to break something.

    Every soldier and officer must remember his oath and be faithful to it. Statutes are the law of a warrior's life. When the army and special services forget this, the country will once again lose territory, wash itself in blood and drink grief.

    I do not remember that in the USSR there was such a dirty trick as chicken codes

    These are the ones who do not remember the obligatory vaccination and pumped their country, and now they grumble. They did not remember the oath and forgot the words of the oath.

    If everyone was vaccinated (as they did in the USSR, without asking the opinion of any wet anti-tricksters and others who drove their heads), QR codes would not be needed
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 8 December 2021 10: 51
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      in fact, no one defended the USSR, which means that no one needed it.
      30 million members of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union + the army + the KGB (those who swore to protect him) - were sitting at home.

      Probably one more video in the topic is appropriate. That is to say, for a better understanding of the situation well, and refresh your memory.

      1. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
        Alexndr p (Alexander) 8 December 2021 11: 24
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        Brekotin will not say nonsense)
        1. 123 Offline 123
          123 (123) 8 December 2021 11: 34
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          Brekotin will not say nonsense)

          Well, in "tuftology" was not noticed, at least by me.
          If that I do not promote his opinion, as well as anyone else. It should be different for everyone. His conclusions are quite correct. yes The numbers are very curious and collected compactly. Very convenient, brief, capacious good No need to search for all sorts of reports, tables, compare.
          So I support the opinion, at least on these issues. But not automatically for all questions. You cannot completely blindly rely on someone else's opinion. Nobody's. hi
          1. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
            Alexndr p (Alexander) 8 December 2021 15: 36
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            Brekotin and Martsinkevich deserve attention
            instead of emotions - analysis and numbers)
    2. aquarius580 Offline aquarius580
      aquarius580 8 December 2021 11: 03
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      You have not read my comment carefully. Chicken codes - i.e. universal round-the-clock surveillance of the population - and are the ultimate the purpose of the "covid" project. The fictional "virus" is simply a method to intimidate the population. Well, give Gunzburger some extra money, of course. He has even offered to "vaccinate against covid" cats. A nimble order bearer, however.
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 8 December 2021 11: 27
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        You have not read my comment carefully. Chicken codes - i.e. universal round-the-clock surveillance of the population - and are the ultimate goal of the "covid" project. The fictional "virus" is simply a method to intimidate the population.

        You contacted me, did I understand correctly?
        Chicken codes are a strange name. Where is it from? And what does the chicken have to do with it?
        Probably a covid topic is a little beyond the scope of this article. I don't see any sense in deepening, let's go far to the side. If that there are two options for the origin of the virus, the United States and China.

        Well, give Gunzburger some extra money, of course. He has even offered to "vaccinate against covid" cats. A nimble order bearer, however.

        Could you give the numbers how many "nimble order bearers" and no less nimble foreign colleagues?
        Do you consider this a Russian project? Do I understand you correctly? Is Putin to blame for everything again? Did he make the porridge to watch you around the clock? Utter stupidity laughing
        1. Miffer Offline Miffer
          Miffer (Sam Miffers) 8 December 2021 13: 28
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          Do you consider this a Russian project? Do I understand you correctly? Is Putin to blame for everything again? Did he make the porridge to watch you around the clock? Laughing stupidity

          This is a very dirty trick - to independently come up with various stupidity, hang it on your opponent and then declare it "utter stupidity".
          1. Vladislav N. Offline Vladislav N.
            Vladislav N. (Vlad) 8 December 2021 13: 59
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            Quote: Miffer
            This is a very dirty trick - to independently invent various stupidity, hang it on your opponent and then declare it "utter stupidity"

            Call this by your name - Goebbelsism.
            It was Goebbels who taught his goebbels that spitting at an opponent comes out faster than an opponent to wipe off spitting. That lies faster than making excuses.
          2. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) 8 December 2021 14: 07
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            This is a very dirty trick - to independently come up with various stupidity, hang it on your opponent and then declare it "utter stupidity".

            I was wrong? So I'm asking if I understood correctly. So you misunderstood? Well, please explain how this can be interpreted. First, about the "chicken codes" ... This is from the previous ...

            I do not remember that in the USSR there was such a dirty trick as chicken codes, a ban on travel by transport, expulsion from work for refusing to inject with an unknown shmurdy, or wearing muzzles in public places.

            As far as I understand, this is about our country. Let's move on to the comment itself.

            You have not read my comment carefully. Chicken codes - i.e. universal round-the-clock surveillance of the population - and are the ultimate goal of the "covid" project. The fictional "virus" is simply a method to intimidate the population. Well, give Gunzburger some extra money, of course. He has even offered to "vaccinate against covid" cats. A nimble order bearer, however.

            I don't know who Gunzburger is, the most suitable option is suggested by the Internet - Gunzburg, Alexander Leonidovich (microbiologist).

            In my opinion, it is again about our country. Based on this, I believe that it is about us, not about China, the USA, Europe or Mozambique. It turns out that they are trying to organize surveillance of the population in our country, and they are making money (obviously on the vaccine), too.
            I would be very grateful if you could explain what I was wrong and what was meant.
    3. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 8 December 2021 13: 29
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      good good good hi Yes. Right. Objectively. Great comment.
  7. Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 8 December 2021 12: 31
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    Why Russia's course towards anti-Sovietism is deliberately doomed is not doomed, but as long as the bearers of the ideas of socialism and the obvious successes of building socialism in the PRC are alive, anti-Sovietism in the Russian Federation will not win a final victory.

    In the pre-war period, class enemies remained, and during the Great Patriotic War, millions of people were in captivity and in the temporarily occupied territories, many of whom, for one reason or another, collaborated with the invaders and even an entire army was formed from them. In the rear, bandits and marauders were operating, and there was no strength to cope with them. The country actually fought on two fronts - against external aggression and internal enemies.
    What should have been done with all of them, had tens of millions of fellow citizens shot? In 1941, near Moscow, rifles with cartridges were not enough, and aviation, artillery and armored vehicles, were distributed one by one to the troops.
    There is only one solution, to make up for the unprecedented loss of manpower in history, send all prisoners, traitors and criminals to forced labor, and for this, an appropriate militarized security organization was needed, which became the main administration of the camps.
    After the death of J.V. Stalin, Khrushch defamed Stalin and carried out an amnesty, the result - a surge of banditry.

    The material living conditions of the population were approximately at the same level, i.e. socially acceptable, but after the death of J.V. Stalin had a clear and undeniable tendency of gradual decline and an increasing lag behind Western capitalist state formations.
    This gave rise to corruption, the formal socialization of socialist property and the corresponding attitude to work, the education of the so-called. the class of "untouchables" from the party-economic nomenklatura, the actual separation of the party elite from its rank-and-file members and the people.
    Brezhnev's "stagnation" grew into a Crisis (!) Which forced (!) M.S. Gorbachev to decide on "perestroika" which only aggravated the situation and thus created a classic revolutionary situation when the upper classes could no longer rule in the old way, and the lower classes did not want to live the old way.
    The result - a coup d'etat led by Yeltsin, who betrayed his party comrades and actually fulfilled Hitler's cherished dream - destroyed the USSR, while losing about 20 million Russians, which is comparable to the loss of the USSR in the Great Patriotic War. He carried out the restoration of capitalism and created a class of large owner-oligarchs, robbed the population, opened the way for civil war and separatism.
    With the arrival of Vladimir Putin, separatism, which threatened the disintegration of the state, was suppressed. Without completely destroying the Yeltsin legacy, the state took control of big capital and subordinated it to the interests of the state, and through its institutions and the population. A system of administration and state structure has been created, reforms have been carried out in the legislative, executive, judicial branches and in all spheres of public life. The economy has risen, and with it the needs of the population at an outstripping pace.
    Vladimir Putin's mistake in leaving the class positions, which will certainly come back to haunt everyone after his departure.
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 8 December 2021 12: 58
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      With the arrival of Vladimir Putin, separatism, which threatened the collapse of the state, was suppressed.

      Just media driven inside.

      Vladimir Putin's mistake in leaving the class positions, which will certainly come back to haunt everyone after his departure.

      The weakness of his vertical of power is that it is not focused on increasing the level of consumption of the population, since it is built on the subordinate position of the US Federal Reserve.
      1. Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 8 December 2021 19: 07
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        1. To suppress separatism does not mean to destroy. A different level takes place in almost all state formations such as Belgium, Britain, Canada, the USA, China, and many other state formations, including the Russian Federation.
        2. The standard of living depends on political and economic development, which in turn depends on the social system and the stage at which this or that state education is located, intraclass solidarity, the form of state structure and management, domestic and foreign policy, etc., including the presence of a generally recognized leader which can both accelerate and slow down social and state development, as for example, it was accelerated by Genghis Khan, Ataturk, Lenin, Stalin, Mao Zedong and all subsequent leaders of the PRC, the same Putin, or slow down like all the leaders of the USSR after the death of I.V. Stalin under which the country made a breakthrough that has no analogues in world history in all spheres - education, culture, science, economy, defeated fascism, laid the foundation for the future of defense and space exploration. The incident is that the one who built and strengthened the state is discredited, and not those who destroyed it.
        3. The coup d'etat and the restoration of capitalism changed the social system. The state is a political organization of the ruling class, which is big business, the leading representatives of which are represented in the RUIE, an “advisory” body under the President of the Russian Federation. After the coup d'etat, robbery of the population, division and subsequent redistribution of the former public property, the formation of natural monopolies, an increase in profits became possible only through access to the foreign market and robbery of other state institutions. The prerequisite for the exit was integration into the world capitalist system and corresponding structures such as the WTO and the IMF, where transnational corporations and banks, for the most part S Shasian, rule. The main world currency is the dollar, the printing press of which belongs to the shareholders of the US Federal Reserve, and therefore the central banks of all state institutions of the world are essentially structural divisions of the US Federal Reserve as long as the dollar remains the main world currency.
      2. Adler77 Offline Adler77
        Adler77 (Denis) 8 December 2021 22: 34
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        The main drawback that I see (not to mention the construction or laying of the foundation of a socialist society) is that for all the years in power, Putin and his party have not created the institution of the transfer of power. There is no progress in this regard. He will die and the bickering for power will begin again. Indeed, in fact, there are no serious parties, mass social and political movements.
        To consider as such the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the SR, the Liberal Democratic Party and others should not be taken seriously.
        And United Russia is generally a one-day party, as was our home Russia and others. There will be no Putin, there will be no this party either. It does not have real support of the people and it itself consists only of officials and businessmen of all kinds for "Pontus".
        And in 20 years in power, but in 30 "democracy" it was possible to build a political system of at least 2 parties with equal opportunities for propaganda.
        But this is not the case. And therefore, after Putin, another dark time awaits us.
        1. Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 9 December 2021 00: 03
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          The system of transferring power through general elections. Progress is obvious, which was clearly demonstrated by the past elections and almost half of the updated composition of the Duma.
          Five Duma parties and another fifty that participated, but did not pass in it - which is so serious, especially if you look closely who supports them and whose interests they represent.
          Elections under capitalism always and everywhere boil down to the intra-class struggle of different groups of big business, which is especially evident in the election shows of the S Shas presidents.
          The bipartisan system has historically developed as a result of the struggle between two factions of the ruling class of England and therefore cannot reflect the entire spectrum of public opinion in principle and, in fact, is reduced to shifting the reins of the ruling class from one hand to another.
          Substitution of the class struggle and the dictatorship of the proletariat with the idea of ​​saving people by A.I. Solzhenitsyn, this is the reason for future upheavals.
  8. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
    gunnerminer (gunner miner) 8 December 2021 12: 54
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    There is nothing without anti-Sovietism. Otherwise, you can slip into thoughts of revising the results of privatization. The surrender of Crimea, Sakhalin, and the Kuriles is much more likely than a revision of these results.
    1. zenion Online zenion
      zenion (zinovy) 8 December 2021 17: 36
      +1
      Like a Ukrainian who graduated from a Russian school in Ukraine. There were many of them and they were sold a ruble bunch like radishes.
      1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 8 December 2021 20: 28
        -1
        Most of all Ukrainians are under your sofa. Where is the district policeman looking?
  9. Observer2014 Offline Observer2014
    Observer2014 8 December 2021 21: 44
    0
    Why Russia's course towards anti-Sovietism is deliberately doomed

    Because we are all children of the USSR. And to burn in the hell of social unrest for all those who are trying the social orientation of our society are trying to break their knees for the sake of "new trends"! am
  10. Bitter Offline Bitter
    Bitter 8 December 2021 22: 58
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    .... Russia's course of anti-Sovietism is deliberately doomed

    Everything is fine. As Boris Nikolaich put it on anti-Soviet rails, so it rolls along this path. Other options are not considered in the future. It's just that today the new capitalists and their government are forced to play a little with the people, since some disagreements have arisen with partners in the West. All this will pass, but anti-Sovietism and the course will remain.
  11. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 8 December 2021 23: 06
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    Doomed, not doomed, it means little.
    The authorities are talking about "Galoshes". And the point.

    A sweet couple of "grand dukes" present clothes and titles, foundations named after the heroes of the collapse are flourishing, heroes and their children, by the way, too.

    Not by washing, so by rolling, they will appoint "anti-Sovietism", they will only make it thinner. They say that you need to be proud of the heroes and veterans of the Union, but without red flags, sickle and hammer, and together with Manerheim and Nikolai 2v.
    And without the legacy of the USSR - space, navy, aviation, mass education, factories, mass medicine and social structure ... You'd better listen to how nuclear tugs will plow space sometime later ...
  12. zenion Online zenion
    zenion (zinovy) 17 December 2021 15: 35
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    The current government is the past government that changed the signboard. It's okay, the main thing is that if the anti-feudalists rebel, then the feudalists will be helped. And here again the circus trick. The sign will be changed and a sign will appear on it - slavery. It already exists under feudalism, but it will be made clean, but it will not be fed, but only skinned.