Will there be enough "Bastions" to turn the Kuril Islands into an impregnable fortress

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A couple of days ago it became known that Bastion coastal missile systems equipped with modernized anti-ship missiles P-800 Onyx were deployed to one of the islands of the Kuril ridge called Matua. Newsundoubtedly positive, since it means strengthening the capabilities of the Pacific Fleet of the Russian Federation to protect the territorial integrity of our country from the appetites of neighboring Japan. However, do not assume that these measures will be sufficient.

First of all, it is necessary to state that we really have problems with Tokyo, and they do not bear the far-fetched character of the idle reasoning of various paramilitary bloggers. If Russia has no territorial disputes with the NATO bloc, and therefore mutual militarization is largely declarative in nature, enriching contractors from the military-industrial complex, then with Japan the situation is completely different. The return of the "northern territories" is not just a subject there political speculation, this is already a real new national idea. This is very dangerous for the Japanese themselves and for us. Unfortunately, Tokyo really has the ability to take the Kuril Islands by military means, since its Naval Self-Defense Forces, as well as the Air Force, are significantly superior to everything that we have in the Far East.



Unlike the Russian jingoistic-patriotic public, the RF Ministry of Defense is well aware of this, and therefore, for the past few years, they have been consistently strengthening the Far Eastern borders. In 2016, an expedition was sent to the Kuriles, which surveyed the islands for the creation of military bases on them. At the same time, the Bal and Bastion coastal missile systems were demonstratively deployed on the islands of Kunashir and Iturup, disputed by Japan, respectively. In 2020, S-300V4 anti-aircraft missile systems were deployed on Iturup. Also on this island, a flight of Su-35S fighters was deployed on a rotational basis. Now it is reported about the transfer of missile systems "Bastion" with super-modern "Onyxes" to the island of Matua.

This is undoubtedly a movement in the right direction. In view of the frank weakness of the small and outdated surface component of the KTOF, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation can really rely only on the DBK and aviation. "Balls" and "Bastions" are capable of blocking the main straits in the region, as well as theoretically finishing off the Japanese Hokkaido. However, it should be borne in mind that the measures taken are still not enough.

At firstThe "Bastions" stationed on Matua are not yet provided with anti-aircraft and electronic warfare protection. The range of the S-300V4 from Iturup is simply not enough to cover the remote island. On Matua, an echeloned air defense system will have to be built from scratch, and all this on a rather compact island. In the event of a massive air or missile strike, the Japanese will be able to immediately cover the main objects of the military infrastructure of the Russian Defense Ministry on Matua.

Secondly, the forces of Russian aviation in the region are frankly insufficient to successfully counter the Japanese aviation, which is many times superior in number. The Su-35S link on Iturup is too modest a combat unit to seriously influence anything. As far as is known, we have only 2 fighter aviation regiments in the Far East, and a squadron of modernized MiG-31 interceptor fighters has recently appeared in Kamchatka. Taking into account the significant numerical superiority of the Japanese in the air, and while ours from the coast are still in time, the enemy has the ability to "overload" any existing air defense system with a massive air strike.

Thirdly, in order to unleash the strike potential of the Bal and Bastion ballistic missile systems, it is necessary to have operational and accurate data for issuing target designations to their missiles. The creation of the Liana satellite constellation has not yet been completed, therefore it is highly desirable to transfer specialized AWACS A-50U aircraft or at least Ka-31 helicopters (their updated version of the Ka-35) to the Far East.

It turns out that the RF Ministry of Defense is heading in the right direction, but it is still too early to breathe out calmly. The threat to the territorial integrity of Russia from Japan is absolutely real, therefore the utmost attention must be paid to strengthening the Far Eastern borders. It should also be borne in mind that in one defense on the islands it will not work out if something happens. No matter how many DBKs and air defense systems we place on the Kuril Islands, if desired, all of them can be quickly "ground up" by massive air and missile strikes. The proximity of a potential theater of operations to Japan will only simplify the task for Tokyo.

This means that Russia needs a powerful navy and numerous naval aviation in the Pacific, which will become integral components of the defensive lines in the remote Kuril Islands. "Balls" and "Bastions" will be truly effective only in cooperation with ships, submarines, fighters and anti-submarine helicopters KTOF.
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  1. +1
    4 December 2021 13: 56
    It would not hurt to send a few more "Balls" there to help the "Bastions", and the hypersonic anti-ship missiles "Zircon" would not be superfluous there either.
    1. -3
      4 December 2021 15: 17
      What the heck?
      Well why the heck?
    2. -5
      4 December 2021 15: 24
      and hypersonic anti-ship missiles "Zircon" would not be superfluous there either.

      For mobile targets, 3M22s are useless, unless the GRU horsemen bribe the commanders of Japanese ships with a request to hang out in the drift longer. laughing

      It would not hurt to send a few more "Balls" there to help the "Bastions",

      laughing fool
      1. +2
        4 December 2021 15: 39
        Again you write ridiculous stupid nonsense, "Zircon" is primarily anti-ship missiles designed to destroy medium and large-tonnage enemy ships, this does not mean at all that they cannot hit enemy ships during their movement and active maneuvering.
        1. -4
          4 December 2021 15: 49
          To defeat mobile targets, a hypersonic ramjet engine is needed. TTZ has just begun to be issued for it. We need a heat-resistant cap that can withstand temperatures of about 4000 degrees C. We need an active guidance system, noise-resistant. With this, it is dull. For example, the Kh-32 aviation anti-ship missile system cannot cook due to problems with such a homing system, including the 3M22 flies like a missile defense system, reaches hypersound for a minute and a half, with the help of accelerators. The 3M22 head part does not have time to heat up. If the rocket starts to maneuver on hypersound, it will burn out.
          1. +2
            4 December 2021 17: 48
            As I look, you are a direct expert on all issues)) And how do our design bureaus and research institutes still function without you?
            1. -4
              4 December 2021 18: 36
              Have you mastered the school physics course?
              1. +1
                5 December 2021 10: 02
                You are definitely not an ass;)) In your sick brain on the nuclear submarine (!!!), hydrazine is used to restore oxygen for breathing;)) (In fact, they use a mixture of O3, consisting of 95% sodium pyroxide, which is added there I don’t know , plasticizers and so on, it all looks like gray-white granules). Now, it turns out, you definitely need a material that can withstand a temperature of 4000 C;) But who is against it? Such material would be useful;)) But the heating of a conventional nuclear warhead at entry into the atmosphere does not exceed 2000C, too much, of course. Buran also entered the atmosphere from the 1st space (26 M !!!) and, at the same time, had a reusable heat shield, and not evaporated.

                And the main problem for hypersonic warheads is the operation of the seeker in the plasma cloud, which blocks the transmission of the radio frequency range. And yes, a prolonged hypersonic flight at an altitude of 5 km is not yet possible, so the rocket rises to an altitude of more than 30 km, not only temperature is important, but the total heating power is more important.
                1. -2
                  5 December 2021 11: 17
                  You are definitely not an ass;)

                  Read the educational program about the electrochemical air regeneration system on nuclear-powered ships. In all seas and oceans, the water is salty. Salt water conducts electricity. If you take a glass of sea water and put two steel rods in it. Apply direct current to them - to one rod "plus", to the other rod - "minus". The water will begin to boil with abundant gas release. Oxygen is actively released on one rod, and hydrogen on the other. In real installations, special intakes are made that collect oxygen and hydrogen. Oxygen enters special tanks, and from them, in strictly defined doses, are distributed throughout all compartments of the boat (KRU oxygen distribution unit). The hydrogen is removed into the propeller jet. This is a simple scheme. In fact, the air regeneration unit - UERVK, is a rather complex engineering structure.

                  And the main problem for hypersonic warheads is the operation of the seeker in the plasma cloud, which blocks the transmission of the radio frequency range. -

                  In theory, the rocket will be guided to a mobile target at supersonic, in dense layers of the atmosphere, the rocket's speed will decrease for this, becoming easy prey for the SAM-3 / SAM-6.

                  a prolonged hypersonic flight at an altitude of 5 km is not yet possible, so the rocket rises to an altitude of more than 30 km, not only temperature is important, but the overall heating power is more important.

                  You hit the sky with your finger.
                  1. +3
                    5 December 2021 11: 47
                    On nuclear submarines, oxygen is made by hydrolysis. On a diesel engine, it's impossible! No energy! Even nuclear submarines have reserve regenerative installations for warheads. I had one in BC-4. The hydrolyser is working as usual, the regenerative unit is working freelance, which is what I'm talking about! And nakakoko hydrazine is not there, they use O3 granules, which in fact are 95% sodium pyroxide! Are you stupid?

                    And so with you in everything!

                    And yes, when descending to the target, all missiles with an active seeker are forced to reduce their speed to 3-4 M, but this is the final stage, when the missile goes in a 5% funnel from the normal to the target, it is extremely difficult to intercept it there! Even ordinary anti-aircraft missiles, for example, make an anti-aircraft "slide", the name itself does not say anything ?!

                    But most importantly, I do not know how the problems of the GOS operation in Zircon or Dagger are solved (in Avangad they simply do not exist, there are gyroscopes and everything) ... You are definitely even further from me from this.
                    1. -3
                      5 December 2021 12: 14
                      On a diesel engine, it's impossible!

                      You hit the sky with your finger. I am glad that you have read the sources indicated by me. And you stopped making the submariners and just sane coastal ones laugh at home.
    3. +1
      5 December 2021 10: 20
      Another thing is interesting. Why on the island of Matua? It is far, 400 km, from the proposed area of ​​the database. It is logical that to protect the "disputed" islands, it is necessary to use warheads located on the indisputable territory of Russia, an attack against which is an aggression against the country under any laws, and in this case, the possible advantage of the Japanese surface fleet over the Pacific Fleet is not so important. after such actions, the attack on the Japanese islands, as a retaliatory step, and with the use of weapons, in accordance with the military doctrine of Russia, is completely legitimate.
  2. -2
    4 December 2021 14: 30
    This is called: "Wherever you throw, everywhere there is a wedge." Strengthen, do not strengthen, if the Japanese decide, nothing will save the Kuriles. And this is enough from provocations.

    This means that Russia needs a powerful navy and numerous naval aviation in the Pacific

    Under Putin, this will never happen! Here, on YouTube, Putin's new stupidity was posted: "They stole a little, only 10%" To say this to the whole country? With such a president, one should be glad that we are not dying of hunger, and not dream of big and bright!
    1. -5
      4 December 2021 14: 52
      It was necessary to fortify the islands in advance, before, and not after the peck of fried St. There are no personnel and equipment. There is no medical battalion. There are no significant reserves of food and ammunition. This means that the threat is not serious. There are only two fighter aviation regiments in the Far East, manned by about 75%. Air defense systems deployed on Iturup Island at low viewing angles of the surveillance radar are effective at a range of about 45-60 km. At the maximum flight range of standard missiles, only for high-altitude targets. Japanese crews can fly up to Matua at altitudes no higher than 3 km calmly, in polygon greenhouse conditions.
  3. Cat
    +2
    4 December 2021 14: 52
    So there the S-300 may not be needed. It is necessary to plant the Bukov division and the Thors. And think about the PDS, otherwise various cats will come out of the sea, but they will break something. At least organize the perimeter of the surface. In general, in five years, there will be a "tough nut", in the sense of Matua. In addition, there is a runway of 1500 m, but can it be lengthened?
    1. -3
      4 December 2021 18: 38
      For 76 years they could not create a tough nut to crack, but in five years they will create - by abandoning the Northern Sea Route, territories of advanced development, abandoning Sakhalin?
  4. -3
    4 December 2021 14: 58
    Will there be enough "Bastions" to turn the Kuril Islands into an impregnable fortress

    - Damn ... - And why is it all so rested on "Bastions", "Onyxes", "Armor" and so on and so on ...
    - Russia needs to close rather large water areas in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk and the Bering Sea ... - And it is simply impossible to do this without flying military equipment ... - Personally, I have already written quite a lot about ekranoplans ... - And they were especially useful for Russia would be - to transport huge heavy loads - over the tundra, over the taiga, over swamps and swamps, lakes, rivers, over the steppe spaces ... - the nicest thing ... - They are not needed in Western Europe - where to fly them there .. - And for Russia - just right ...
    - So in the Far East, they would be very useful ... - They just need to be brought to mind - and they will become a very formidable weapon ... - They can be a very precise targeting means and a means of cover and a means of jamming ... - a massive attack of such "screens" could disable the entire Japanese coastline (or cause such chaos as to create a complete confusion) ...
    - And, despite not such a high speed - these screens may not reveal themselves for a very long time - - fly in a large flock at a low altitude; and at a fairly close approach, immediately turn on the work - and begin to cut down the enemy's electronic warfare systems (yes, they themselves can launch missile strikes and use missiles that cause interference and blocking the enemy's defense system) ... - And they can be used in automatic mode (like BLPA) with the installed program and be controlled by the program from satellites ... and so on and so on ... These "screens" can instantly place entire fields of electronic traps on the water surface and disrupt, "interfere with the activities" of enemy submarines and ships .. - They can inflict colossal damage to the enemy ... - And it will be quite difficult for the enemy to destroy them themselves ... - For Russia, these "screens" would be useful ...
    - Of course - you need good equipment, "operating system" and excellent specialists to conduct a very fast and "qualified game" ... - But for now ... - Alas ...
    1. -2
      4 December 2021 15: 53
      With the operation of ekranoplanes, there are many technical and organizational difficulties that have not been learned to overcome. This aircraft took all the disadvantages from the aircraft and from the ship. Short service life of engines and fuselage, speeds from constantly hanging sea moisture. Extremely low maneuverability. Low speed. And so on. that prevented its successful operation.
      1. -4
        4 December 2021 16: 37
        There are many technical and organizational difficulties with the operation of ekranoplanes, which we have not learned to overcome.

        - Yes, a lot of things that we could not overcome; or rather, they simply did not work in this direction ... - It's just that for many countries it is useless to develop and use the theme of "screens" - they simply do not have such open spaces (they and UAVs are quite enough that operate in a relatively "small theater" ( approximately - "the squares of Karabakh") ... - And for Russia it is precisely the far-flying heavy-duty and multifunctional "screens" ... - Otherwise, Russia would have created and improved a whole line of "screens" long ago ... - Quickly transfer a huge number of equipment and troops from East to West (and vice versa); patrol and guard their waters; look for enemy submarines and transmit the most detailed data about them (interfere with them and complicate their activities in every possible way), etc., etc., etc. - these tasks would be solved ...
        - My pluses to you ...
        1. -3
          4 December 2021 16: 45
          The People's Republic of China, the USA and Canada, Chile, Argentina and others have plenty of room, and the screen becomes completely uncontrollable at high speeds. It has no contact with water, and it cannot, like an airplane, tilt its wing: there is water a few meters below it. Usually soft and pliable, at a speed of 500-600 km / h it becomes like a stone. Over the tundra, uneven terrain, over the ice, this aircraft cannot fly.
          The ekranoplan flies close to the water, where the atmospheric density reaches its maximum values. The ekranoplan, hung with engines, does not help to reduce the oncoming air resistance. Some of the engines turn off in flight and act as useless ballast. It is necessary to carry an additional supply of fuel. In an emergency at sea, the ekranoplan will have to be prepared for flight for several hours. In terms of flight range, ekranoplanes are three or more times inferior to aircraft with the same payload. Despite the fact that the aircraft are capable of flying anywhere in the world, regardless of the terrain, the carrying capacity of the heaviest ekranoplanes of the Alekseev Design Bureau was 0,1% of the deadweight of the ocean liner container ship. And in terms of its importance it is inferior even to transport aircraft.
          1. -4
            4 December 2021 17: 10
            The People's Republic of China, the USA and Canada, Chile, Argentina and others have plenty of room, and the screen becomes completely uncontrollable at high speeds.

            - Yes, there are a lot, a lot of shortcomings in 'screens' ... - and they simply have not been dealt with for more than 40 years ...
            - So the UAVs - no one was involved either - it was believed that they were "not very suitable for anything" ... - until their "turn came up" ... - And now "advanced", "industrial" and "advanced in all Turkey "- suddenly demonstrated to the whole world that the UAV is a rather serious direction ... - And how quickly everyone learned this clumsy word" bayraktar "...
            - Well, and the screens are still very, very, very - an unfinished direction ... - practically - while they are referred to sea vessels; but the "screens" can overcome the surface, which sea vessels cannot do ... - In practice, the "screen" (in many cases) can perform the functions of an amphibian ...
            - The ekranoplans have high efficiency and a higher carrying capacity in comparison with airplanes, since the lifting force is added to the force generated from the ground effect. For the military, the stealth of the ekranoplan on radars due to flight at an altitude of several meters, high speed, and immunity to anti-ship mines are important.
            - Yes, the screen is "not finalized" in many ways ... - but even today no one is dealing with "screens" ... - Probably - it's just that "the time has not come yet" ... - and then they will wake up ... - As always...
            1. -3
              4 December 2021 18: 54
              Well, screens are still a very, very, very unfinished direction ...

              We would have to deal with the mosquito fleet, with small aircraft. Not before ekranoplanes. And the UAVs were engaged closely, from the mid-90s to the present. They spent tens of billions of rubles. The creators of Turkish UAVs never dreamed of such financial investments!

              In practice, the "screen" (in many cases) can perform the functions of an amphibian

              Only over a flat surface.

              The ekranoplans have high efficiency and a higher carrying capacity in comparison with airplanes, since the lifting force is added to the force generated from the ground effect.

              The carrying capacity of the heaviest ekranoplanes of the Alekseev Design Bureau was 0,1% of the deadweight of the ocean liner container ship. And in terms of its importance it is inferior even to transport aircraft. The flight range of the Ruslan with a cargo of 150 tons is 3000 km, and with 40 tons the An-124 will fly 11 km.

              For the military, the stealth of the ekranoplan on radars is important due to flight at an altitude of several meters

              The strong air resistance negates all the advantages of the ground effect.It is noticeable like any surface ship made of metal.

              The cruising speed of ekranoplanes is 400-500 km / h, which is more than two times less than that of conventional jet aircraft.
              On the other hand, 500 km / h is significantly higher than that of ships. But, again, not everything is simple here. An ordinary dry cargo ship or tanker goes on average 18 knots with cargo. Every hour, day and night, in storm and fog, without bunkering and stops. Efficiency is not even worth comparing - a ship diesel is an order of magnitude more economical than a jet engine in terms of specific fuel consumption, and even more so taking into account the difference in the cost of diesel fuel and high-quality aviation kerosene.
              And again about efficiency - the design of the ekranoplan is twice as heavy as an aircraft of the same size. Yes, when they are built, instead of aviation technologies, shipboard technologies are sometimes used, but this difference is more than covered by the cost of power plants and the grandiose size of the ship-aircraft. Not to mention the cost of maintenance: multiple engines are no joke.
              There really is no economical application for an ekranoplan. If an urgent delivery of people and cargo is required, it is more profitable to use an airplane. If it is necessary to deliver a large consignment of cargo across the ocean, any customer will choose a ship, because better to wait a couple of weeks but save millions.
  5. -1
    4 December 2021 15: 09
    Why does everyone think that if the enemy attacks our territories, then Russia will immediately take up the defensive. Whether it is Kaliningrad or the Kuriles.

    Why do all these ... do not think about how to resist, nobody will be shitty in the Kuril Islands, cross-eyed, they will immediately grab blows to the main centers in their narrow-eyed from mainland Russia.
    Why the heck to overload sparsely populated islands with weapons when unacceptable damage can be inflicted on the enemy's home.
    The same is in Kaliningrad: in case of an attack, Warsaw will be seized.
    1. +2
      4 December 2021 15: 28
      We cannot respond with a worthy threat to the crossing of our "red lines" in Ukraine, and you want us to threaten with a nuclear war to seize islands in the Far East.
      Even if we do, no one will believe us. And now even more so.
      So we, like everyone else, will have to develop infrastructure with conventional weapons.
      Without hope for the President's nuclear "panacea"
      1. -2
        4 December 2021 19: 22
        Dear, are you out of your mind, who is talking about nuclear weapons?
        The conventional is enough for them.
        And about the "red lines" - you are truly delusional.
        1. +2
          4 December 2021 20: 23
          are you out of your mind who is talking about nuclear weapons?

          I'm in mine, but you are a question.

          Conventional is enough for them

          oh?
          What is this threat to Japan? From U.S? Do not make me laugh.
          The article dealt with just the lack of conventional weapons for them.
          It will not be conventional if you want to threaten, and not make the enemy laugh.

          And about the "red lines" - you are truly delusional

          No - you are raving, "in front of all honest people"
          1. -2
            4 December 2021 22: 09
            You have no imagination at all with training manuals. "There will be no Putin - and you will be happy."
            Tired of the stupid whiners.
        2. +1
          5 December 2021 10: 29
          The military doctrine of Russia presupposes the use of nuclear weapons in aggression on the territory of the Russian Federation. Point. I repeat, using nuclear weapons to defend your territory is absolutely legitimate! For this, some warheads are located on adjacent islands, which Japan cannot claim, and in the event of hostilities, of course, these units cannot be ignored and not attacked, which means that the original Russian territory is also attacked, and therefore, it is no longer border conflict, and it is perfectly legitimate to attack any part of the territory of Japan by any means.
          1. -1
            5 December 2021 19: 10
            Nobody argues. It's like that.
            However, the conversation is about whether Russia, in a new, even more difficult operational situation, will decide on this legal, legitimate use.
            The West is not stupid at all. He is constantly working to make it difficult for us to move into active confrontation.
            By creating a “belt of hatred and weapons” around us, the West is continuously devaluing for us the decision to take the line of defense. A little more and the defense will completely lose its meaning, tk. The country will no longer be able to live fully in the defended lines, under the “revolvers” put on from all sides. Then the country itself will surrender to the enemy without a fight, or commit suicide along with the world. In the latter, apparently, the enemy does not believe.
            1. +1
              6 December 2021 10: 13
              Once we were already handed over ... So then don't believe in folk omens and rumors about the marked;)
              There are no problems in living apart. The USSR is a clear example of this. The mistake was in the constant support of "friends" and "brothers". And the country itself was divided into republics. We got what we got in the end.
              But a country of the same size as Russia can quite and well live in autorkia, again, you don't have to go too far and follow the path of the USSR, closing everything to everyone. In half of the countries, even now, in COVID, it is quite possible to go. In part - a problem, but it will be solved over time, especially if we mirror the problems to them.
              But the fact is that the world is again entering an era of tough confrontation, conflict of interests. Alas. And war, in one form or another, cold or classic, is inevitable!
              Alternative? Yes, there is, but I'd rather be for the war than for such an "alternative" ...

              It's strange, why can't I correct the word "author" for author? Returns it back, and when you open it for editing, it generally does it with a capital letter;) Cool;) I can't write it correctly at all! Autocorrect because of the capitalized word author transforms!
          2. 0
            5 December 2021 20: 02
            Are you serious?
            1. -2
              5 December 2021 22: 04
              Absolutely. I write everything seriously. Think about it yourself. Object ...
            2. -1
              6 December 2021 11: 50
              In my earlier comments to articles on this channel, I already wrote about the factors that threaten the existence of Russia now.
              I will add something that I hardly wrote about before, and which is very important.
              This situation must be considered in development.
              The environment of Russia, based on the assessment of its actions, right now decides about the prospects for its survival and its suitability as a leader.
              If some countries come to the conclusion that Russia is a “lame duck”, then they choose the other side as a leader. This is already happening.
              Take a look at the neighboring states, and imagine the consequences of their negative choice for us. If Russia does not involve the environment in its interests, the States will subordinate it to their interests. The prospect of sharing Russia's resources will unite them all. In this question.
              The encirclement will become hostile to Russia, just like the United States is now.
              In other words, the West is now forming a "mechanism" for the absorption and assimilation of Russia by the outside world.
              Imagine the results of this process:
              Around Russia there is a ring of hostile states. On their territories there are US bases with weapons aimed at us. The unanimous world is against Russia. Insulation. An infinite number of directions of attack and options for enemy operations.
              Long before that, a defeatist agenda will be formed in the media and the country's leadership.
              Indeed, the game will be hopelessly lost.
              When this goes too far, Russia will have no future, ANYTHING at all.
              Even if she belatedly took up proper defenses.
              The changes take place according to the ratchet principle. It is almost impossible to squeeze them back.
              Every day the attractiveness and possibilities of the future available to us are shrinking in size.
              In order to see this, strategic goal-setting and planning are necessary, which the current leadership of the country does not have. It is "blind."
              The life of the authorities today, the shifting of problems to the future, are possibly included in the calculation by the Americans, hence their confidence in their actions.
    2. -2
      4 December 2021 17: 17
      And our oligarchs will have to finance finally the full-fledged armament of Russia, its defense and attack. If they do not want to give "everything that has been acquired by back-breaking labor" and themselves into the hands of the winners.
      After all, the victors of Russia will dispose of all this according to their own understanding and benefit.
      They will take everything away, and they will put you in the camp. Just in case
      1. -2
        4 December 2021 22: 11
        Where did you see the oligarchs in Russia?
        Well, don't measure everything on yourself.
        1. +2
          4 December 2021 22: 31
          I am Russian, Russian, citizen of the Russian Federation. My life, future and interests are connected with the future of my Motherland.
          I call those individuals who now control the financial and material resources of Russia oligarchs. I do not like this word - replace it with your own, suitable.
          And then why on "you"? You are not me, but you are humiliating yourself
          1. -3
            5 December 2021 00: 51
            It is a lot of honor to humiliate someone.
            Read the definition of the word oligarch.
            For a Russian, too many emotions, pathos and shouts are all gone.

            Where is the optimistic fatalism?
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            2. 0
              5 December 2021 02: 07
              Do you also treat the future of your children with optimistic fatalism?
              1. 0
                6 December 2021 13: 23
                Optimistic Fatalism - Do what you must and be what will (and don't care, not everything).
                This is my interpretation.
      2. -2
        4 December 2021 23: 37
        The oligarchs will not have to fork out for Russian weapons.
        1. -1
          5 December 2021 02: 13
          Interesting. Please develop your thought
          1. -2
            5 December 2021 11: 03
            Because the governments of the countries of which they are citizens will deprive them of their citizenship for such patriotic gestures. They prefer to keep their money in British and American offshore, out of sight, and invest it in the economies of other countries. Oligarchs need quick money, and they get quick money from oil, gas, energy, and other natural resources. Now imagine that they will start investing their money, which they got practically for nothing, in the construction of defense plants. Knowing at the same time what kind of thieves' mechanism is incorporated in the financing scheme of the military-industrial complex. In addition, all these are projects that pay off for a very long time.
            It is easier for the oligarchs to use this money to buy goods abroad, and here they can sell them at a profit for themselves, and this is also easy money. Power helps them in this very well, and never leaves them in trouble. So why would they invest in long-term payback projects? Because of the fuss with which there is a chance to lose the citizenship of a NATO country. That's right, there is no need ... It's easier to get here and now, and live to the fullest, than to build and give jobs to the common people, to strengthen the defense of a country of which you are not a citizen.
            Under the current government, everything suits them. Of course, they have some projects, but this is a drop in the ocean of what they could do for their country. Remember when Abramovich was the governor of Chukotka? So, he put things in order there, and invested a lot of his own money, and very much asked Putin to resign from this post. He was there as a "link sent." Later there were many jokes on this topic.

            But then Putin was different, and theft in the country was not so crazy.
            1. -1
              5 December 2021 15: 00
              I agree.
              However, oligarchs need to look closer to their future.
              If the United States defeats us, EVERYTHING will change.
              Russians will become "superfluous" people on the planet, and the West will get rid of them without regret and remorse. She will also dance with joy.
              The West will not stand on ceremony, and with its "citizens" of Russian origin, who will automatically become unreliable and potentially dangerous.
              Business and money will be taken away, and these "citizens" will be put in a camp - for peace of mind.
              The oligarchs need to save themselves together with the whole country.
              Otherwise it will not work.
              Like this
              1. -2
                5 December 2021 16: 33
                The Russian population is declining rapidly and without military action with the United States. The oligarchs saved themselves, keeping funds from American and British offshores, acquiring passports of the United States and Great Britain. Tinkov, a fresh example, not living in the United States, paid there taxes for 350 million dollars.
                1. -1
                  5 December 2021 16: 41
                  Do you think a "purchased" passport will save you when you can take all your fortune and protect the country's security from the "vile and incomprehensible" Russians?
                  The ties of the oligarch are a "plus" in Russia, during the war, for a defector who was robbed of his underwear is a dangerous "minus".
                  1. -2
                    5 December 2021 16: 49
                    The oligarchs are not the most stupid, and not far-sighted people. They went through the crucible of a tough redistribution of markets, squeezed into the glorious 90s, calculated that it was easier to make money in Russia. a tougher class, a class of property-owning siloviki. This phenomenon is especially prominent in the North Caucasus, Dagestan, the military-industrial complex, in Roskosmos. An example is the failure of the North Caucasus Resorts project. It is impossible to agree with the security forces, buy off. Agreements are changed three times a day.
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                2. -3
                  5 December 2021 16: 52
                  All of us, and them too, are protected by its borders by Russia. Without her, we are nobody, nowhere and nobody is needed.
                  Even God probably
                  1. -3
                    5 December 2021 17: 07
                    It will be seen there: who, whom, and how it protects.
  6. -3
    4 December 2021 15: 21
    a squadron of modernized MiG-31 interceptor fighters recently appeared in Kamchatka.

    The interceptor is not capable of conducting aerial combat, especially at low altitudes. The MiG-31 BM is attracted out of despair, for lack of a Su-57 in the Air Force units. The interceptor is not an enemy to Japanese crews, especially on the F-35. And even without AWACS and U complexes. And this is the most important component of modern air defense. Even the air defense of Moscow in 1941, and London, showed that fighters are the main ones in air defense.

    therefore, it is highly desirable to transfer specialized AWACS A-50U aircraft or at least Ka-31 helicopters (their updated version of the Ka-35) to the Far East.

    There would be something to transfer. The A-50U has only four combat-ready. To four military districts, to four fleets. One is constantly stationed at Khmeimim. That means only three, to provide the eyes and ears of the Kuril air defense. K-31 is only one conditionally combat-ready, at the KChF. .Not accepted for service. With a limited time in the air, with only one operator, with an extremely limited communication channel. And other disadvantages of a helicopter compared to an aircraft.

    In view of the frank weakness of the small and outdated surface component of the KTOF, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation can really rely only on the DBK and aviation.

    There are no reconnaissance and strike aircraft in the fleets; having reached the island of Matua, it will be able to maneuver there for a couple of minutes, and then back, due to the fuel limit.

    "Balls" and "Bastions" are capable of blocking the main straits in the region, as well as theoretically finishing off to Japanese Hokkaido

    If there is enough ammunition. If the Japanese command refrains from striking the DBK. If the DBK calculations are provided with everything necessary to achieve effective shooting. If, if, if ....
  7. -3
    4 December 2021 17: 46
    The author, are you, by any chance, the identical twin brother of a certain Alexander Timokhin?
    He, too, is stuck in the 20th century and goes on the attack with divisions and fronts, with the help of tank wedges and cavalry.
    1. -4
      4 December 2021 18: 55
      He, too, is stuck in the 20th century and goes on the attack with divisions and fronts, with the help of tank wedges and cavalry.

      You cannot give such facts.
    2. +1
      5 December 2021 20: 00
      Better than the ridiculous stratospheric fantasies of nuclear-powered bombers
  8. +3
    4 December 2021 19: 18
    Etsaa ... Should we be afraid of ipons? Yes, we will demolish the bald out of hydrogen!
  9. +4
    4 December 2021 23: 58
    In one humorous BBC program (Yes, Mr. Minister) the question was raised - when to use trident?
    So I want to ask you - a saboteur from Japan sailed on a bamboo boat - why should we just shmish them with vigorous bombs? Have ten saboteurs sailed? Has a mortar company come over? Cover all of Japan with vigorous bombs again at once? Or spend zircons on them, which have not yet even been put into mass production and somewhere in Siberia and a couple of ships of the northern fleet dangling a couple of test samples? Are you out of your mind?
    The guarantor does everything right - he shows everyone that if it comes to a bloody bath, it will not seem enough to anyone .... And he is forcing the development and deployment of the necessary means of engaging the enemy on combat duty. This is time, this is money. One sample is good, but there should be hundreds of them, with the possibility of quick replenishment of ammunition, unless, of course, the factories after a massive raid of tomahawks are intact .. With carriers, with launchers, scattered across our territory adequately to the possible theater of operations. How many white swan strategists do we have? How many of them will be able to work on the target? How many of them can go on the second flight? When does the bloodbath start?
    But! And if there is no bloody bath - a landing ship landed, occupied the island, suppressed our garrison without any special losses on both sides - should we hit him on the head with a vigorous bat? Here, excuse me, even the countries loyal to us will not understand this.
    1. -3
      5 December 2021 17: 12
      The economy is holding back such a scale.
    2. 0
      5 December 2021 19: 59
      The right questions
    3. 0
      6 December 2021 12: 48
      The VGK has no clear answers to the correct questions, and there is no press apparatus either.
  10. 0
    6 December 2021 23: 32
    On the Kuril Islands, for example, on Iturup, there are not only s-300-v4 air defense systems, but also the s-400 air defense systems of the 1724th anti-aircraft missile regiment were transferred from the Jewish Autonomous Region at the beginning of this year. For additional cover of such a grouping, the Pantsir-1S air defense missile system is also located with electronic warfare equipment. Since December 2020, they have already begun duty. An old Japanese military airfield has been restored with an almost one and a half kilometers long runway capable of receiving light transport aircraft, multipurpose fighters of the Su-35 and Su-30SM type, and even front-line bombers of the Su-34 type, which are already on the island.
  11. -1
    6 December 2021 23: 32
    Yes, the Yapas remember what a vigorous bomb is. Why so much stress? Our rulers are surprisingly sweet. Just say - Any movement against us and Hiroshima will seem like paradise. All this = money will not need to be spent after that. And then they chew snot everywhere. The world is like a world. And no one believes in the decisiveness of the actions of our military. Yes, they really got bored with their fucking Comintern.