Ankara concealed from Moscow the sale of dozens of shock drones to Ukraine

The Turkish company Baykar Makina sold significantly more attack drones to Ukraine than previously reported, thereby causing a wave of reproaches from the Russian authorities. The American edition of Bloomberg writes about this with reference to its own sources. Moreover, new contracts for the supply of UAVs will be signed in the near future.

Bloomberg does not name the exact number of Bayraktar TB2 drones in service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but reports at least 24 vehicles being prepared for delivery in the interests of Kiev.

Since 2019, Ankara has sold dozens of drones to Ukraine along with control stations and missiles. The sale of Bayraktar made Turkey one of the most important allies of the Ukrainians

- writes the media.

Recently, photographs of the medium UAV Bayraktar TB2 and heavy Akıncı models with the Ukrainian Air Force insignia appeared on the Web, which may indicate negotiations between Kiev and Ankara on future deliveries of the latest UAV.

Bayraktar Akıncı is a high-altitude long-range reconnaissance and strike UAV capable of carrying a 1350 kg payload. The maximum take-off weight of the drone exceeds 5,5 tons, and the flight duration is 24 hours. The drone, among other things, can use Turkish-made SOM cruise missiles with a range of about 200 km and a warhead weighing 230 kg. The Akıncı drone can carry two missiles of this type at once.

According to Bloomberg, several more Ukrainian-Turkish joint projects are under negotiation. In particular, we are talking about the development and construction of medium-class launch vehicles based on two-stage Zenit-2 launch vehicles. The transfer of similar missile of technologies will allow Ankara to speed up the creation of its own short- and medium-range ballistic missiles.

Recall that on the evening of December 3, Vladimir Putin and Recep Tayyip Erdogan had a telephone conversation, during which the leaders discussed, among other things, the conflict in eastern Ukraine. The head of the Kremlin pointed out to his Turkish counterpart the provocative activity of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, including the cases of the use of Turkish-made strike drones in the Donbas. The presidents agreed that attempts to exert pressure on the unrecognized republics would not lead to a solution to the conflict, but would only aggravate it.
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  1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
    gunnerminer (gunner miner) 4 December 2021 10: 56
    Photos of models on the table are not the most convincing proof of the presence of UAVs in the beggars of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. It's like talking about the successful export sales of the Su-57 and Su-75, demonstrating the exhibition pavilion in Dubai.
    1. Binder Offline Binder
      Binder (Miron) 4 December 2021 11: 54
      Demonstration of models is really not a proof, but strategically, strengthening the Armed Forces in the confrontation with the Russian Federation plays into the hands of the Turks. UAVs of Turkish production have repeatedly demonstrated their effectiveness on decomp. The theater of operations, there is no doubt that in the Donbas too, they can significantly affect the course of the conflict. And financial issues are quite solvable.
      1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 4 December 2021 12: 08
        The budget of the Armed Forces of Ukraine does not have enough funds to purchase an adequate number of UAVs from the Turks. Turks need currency, not hryvnia. To create a threat to armored units, self-propelled guns, dozens of medium and heavy UAVs are required. It takes time to train operators.
        It is unlikely that the Ukrainian Ministry of Finance will receive such sums from foreigners. There is nothing to give them.
        Nobody disputes the practicality of Turkish UAVs. Created in a relatively short time. From what was at hand. Russian colleagues spent tens of billions of rubles, decades, and gave little to the customer. A considerable number of criminal cases were received, on the topic of embezzlement, theft, inappropriate use of funds.
        1. Binder Offline Binder
          Binder (Miron) 4 December 2021 15: 08
          Quote: gunnerminer
          In the budget of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, it is not thought that apart from the missile, there is a lot of money for the acquisition of an adequate number of UAVs from the Turks. The Turks need currency, not hryvnia.

          There is no talk about hryvnias, but the text contains information about the Turkish side's interest in Ukrainian missile technologies, perhaps these technologies will be a payment for drones. It seems that apart from missile development, the Ukrainians have something to offer the Turks.
          1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
            gunnerminer (gunner miner) 4 December 2021 15: 40
            If the Ukrainian side had something to offer the Turks, Bayraktarov would have bought not 20, but at least 100. For 30 Kiev did not really bother about preserving scientific and technical schools. They have and are going on similar processes with science and education, with the military construction, as in Russia. Only in a more caricatured form. The frames went abroad, died of old age. Not having time to transfer experience and knowledge.
  2. Offline (Irina Gorskova) 4 December 2021 13: 03
    I believe the collapse of the lira, the economic shake-up prompts the Turkish leadership to take some very strange steps. But opposing Russia (and not only Russia) there is a recession and crisis phenomena.
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 4 December 2021 15: 41
      But opposing Russia (and not only Russia) there is a recession and crisis phenomena.

      Turkey is not alone. Like Russia. Turkey is needed as a vanguard of NATO.
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  5. Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
    Michael1950 (Michael) 4 December 2021 19: 09
    - And what about the SVR and the GRU in Russia ?! belay
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  8. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 5 December 2021 15: 18
    Ankara concealed from Moscow the sale of dozens of shock drones to Ukraine

    - Yes, it would be better if Russia itself would acquire hundreds of 2-3 of these Turkish UAVs (or how many Turks can build and sell - including those for Ukraine) ... - And it would put them in Crimea or Donbass (on legal terms - for defense purposes) ...
    - At least get something from Turkey - in exchange for Russian tourists ... - From a black sheep - at least a tuft of wool ...
  9. Denis radish Offline Denis radish
    Denis radish (Denis Moroz) 27 February 2022 12: 13
    Well, these are our allies .. China still has to join the sanctions)
    I personally don't give a fuck about Europe and the rest of the world. My life is arranged in such a way that world news for me is akin to news from the world of EVA-online. but there are hardly many "autonomous" like me. many desperately need new iPhones, Bali, and what else. exaggerate. but it is obvious that the United States and this very "Mir" have become accustomed to the idea that Russia, as it were, does not exist, that our business is in the margins of history. Of course, we ourselves are to blame, we ourselves unprecedentedly pissed away 30+ of our history .. But you have to get out. Getting out is hard and painful. And I see, dofiga of those who have already completely settled down in this "ass" ...