Defeat in Karabakh led the Armenian Defense Ministry to the need to reform the army


On November 27, a meeting of the leadership of the department was held at the Ministry of Defense of Armenia. The defeat in Nagorno-Karabakh led the Armenian military to the understanding that the army needed to be reformed. This is reported by the Armenian media, referring to the local security officials.


The newly appointed head of the Armenian Defense Ministry Suren Papikyan spoke about the importance, consistency and effectiveness of large-scale reforms. He stressed that the country's authorities are determined to assist any step aimed at further increasing the combat capability of the Armenian armed forces.

The Minister drew attention to solving disciplinary issues and attached importance to increasing the attractiveness of the military profession in the country. He also expressed confidence that the state in the foreseeable future will take effective steps and show concern for the officers.

In this case, политическая the situation in Armenia continues to be unstable. Simultaneously with the meeting of the military, the Armenian opposition held its rally on Revolution Square in Yerevan, initiated by the "Liberation Movement" group. The main requirements are the resignation of Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan and President Armen Sargsyan.

We call on parties, organizations and individuals to unite around these two demands. <…> The problem of our security has not been resolved. We do not know what will happen with the status of Artsakh. Pashinyan is unable to advance the interests of Armenia

- said one of the leaders of the National Christian Party "Awakening" Ara Zohrabyan.

The politician pointed out that in the trilateral statement of Moscow, Yerevan and Baku dated November 26, 2021, it was said about the creation of a commission on the delimitation of the border between Azerbaijan and Armenia with the support of Russia. At the same time, the parties referred to the trilateral agreement of November 9, 2020, the points of which, according to Zohrabyan, were violated to the detriment of Armenia. He explained that the Azerbaijani army did not remain in its positions, but invaded the territory of Armenia. At the same time, the Azerbaijanis did not return the captive Armenians, and blood continues to flow on the line of contact.

Note that recently from the ranks of the Azerbaijani army were fired servicemen sharing photos and videos about the hostilities in Nagorno-Karabakh and on the border with Armenia on social networks.
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  1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
    gunnerminer (gunner miner) 27 November 2021 20: 45
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    The defeat in Karabakh led the Ministry of Defense of Armenia to the need to reform the army at the expense of Russia. According to the results of the strategic exercises Kavkaz-2020, the Armed Forces of Armenia and the NKAO received a positive assessment from the NGSH of the Armed Forces of Russia Gerasimov. The alleged enemy was successfully reconnoitered, stunned and blinded by electronic warfare means, his UAVs were shot down, and the self-propelled guns were destroyed.
    1. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
      sgrabik (Sergei) 29 November 2021 07: 41
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      What an absurd nonsense, when Gerasimov spoke positively about the allegedly high combat readiness of the Armenian army under Pashinyan, this was not and could not be.
      1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 29 November 2021 11: 47
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        Read the near-military media in Russia with materials on the results of the Kavkaz-2020 strategic exercises.
  2. boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 27 November 2021 22: 01
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    Defeat in Karabakh led the Armenian Defense Ministry to the need to reform the army

    The main thing is during laughing... Less than thirty years later, their brilliant idea dawned on them.
  3. Binder Offline Binder
    Binder (Miron) 27 November 2021 23: 00
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    Today, no real prospects for strengthening the Armenian Armed Forces are seen. I have no doubts about the courage of the Armenian servicemen and their motivation to defend the interests of their state, but the modern army is modern weapons that cost a lot of money, and Armenia has no money. At the same time, Azerbaijan possesses considerable financial resources and uses them wisely, providing the army in full. Everyone saw the result last year in Karabakh. Well, do not forget that Turkey is behind Azerbaijan, and this is already a player in another league ...
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 27 November 2021 23: 05
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      The Armenians had the opportunity to dig engineering structures in convenient terrain in the directions of enemy strikes. There were tanks and vehicles for the transfer of units. There were air defense and electronic warfare systems. There was no motivation to fight to the end. Turkey does not have many forces to conduct prolonged military operations in remote theaters of operations.
      1. Binder Offline Binder
        Binder (Miron) 27 November 2021 23: 29
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        In modern warfare, defensive engineering structures no longer play the same role as before. And tanks, army vehicles and other equipment become easy prey for combat drones, which we saw in Karabakh. Russian-made air defense and electronic warfare systems could not successfully cope with Azerbaijani UAVs and loitering ammunition. Well, the Turks are unlikely to have to conduct long-term military operations against the Armenians, it seems that the Azerbaijani army, organized and trained by the Turks according to NATO patterns, itself may well solve the tasks of suppressing the Armenian Armed Forces.
        1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
          gunnerminer (gunner miner) 27 November 2021 23: 49
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          And tanks, army vehicles and other equipment become easy prey for combat drones, which we saw in Karabakh

          If transport and other equipment is used in Armenian, then pre-conscripts from the Amazonian deybray can also be profiled.

          In modern warfare, engineering structures for defensive purposes no longer play the same role as before

          Especially if they are not masked, do not create false shelters, foregrounds, minefields, etc.

          Russian-made air defense and electronic warfare systems could not successfully cope with Azerbaijani UAVs and loitering ammunition.

          In skillful hands and a splinter of a dagger. Armenians made pitiful attempts to use the performance characteristics of air defense and electronic warfare means.

          Not so often, and a lot, Azerbaijanis used UAVs and other novelties. The main work was done by the calculations of the self-propelled guns. The UAVs were more involved in additional reconnaissance of targets, previously opened by the operators of the Turkish AWACS and U complex.

          At present, the Russian military budget is constantly being cut. So the Armenians do not expect a drastic large-scale restoration of what they have lost. Plus, the Armenian leadership has not decided on a policy towards Russia. Despite the slaps received from France, they are trying to establish cooperation with it, including in the defense sphere. The Iskanders turned out to be suitcases without a handle for the Armenians, just like three Su-30SMs.
  4. The Armenian army did not fight in Karabakh, everyone knows!
    1. Shmurzik Offline Shmurzik
      Shmurzik (Seymslav) 28 November 2021 10: 33
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      The Armenian army did not fight in Karabakh, everyone knows!

      Dadadad ... - But, nevertheless, it is necessary to reform the Armenian army!?))))
    2. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunner miner) 29 November 2021 11: 47
      -3
      Come up with a more intelligent excuse.
  5. Pink 123 Floyd 328 (Pink Floyd) 27 November 2021 23: 55
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    If the Armenians, with anguish posing as Russian patriots, bigger than any Russian, all these Simonyans, Keosayans, Migranians, Karen Shakhnazarovs, a whole millionaire minister Lavrov, all these "Russians" from the Forbes 200 list, like that -
    Sergey Galitsky (Harutyunyan), the founder and co-owner (until 2018) of the largest retail chain Magnit, is ranked 40 with a fortune of $ 3.5 billion.

    The founder of the Tashir group of companies Samvel Karapetyan, who was ranked 2020th in 39, is 2021th in 46. His fortune is $ 3.3 billion.

    For the first time, Artem Khachatryan, co-owner of the Fix Price chain of fixed-price stores, who became a billionaire after the sale of the retailer's shares, was included in the list. He is in 49th place with a fortune of $ 3.1 billion.

    In 73rd place is the billionaire of Armenian origin Andrei Andreev (Ogandzhanyants) - the founder of the Internet dating service Badoo, he has $ 1.9 billion.

    Founder and owner of SKARTEL, as well as the holder of Yota shares, Albert Avdolyan, is in 115th place. His fortune is $ 1 billion.

    Right behind him is the philanthropist and entrepreneur Ruben Vardanyan. His fortune is also estimated at $ 1 billion.

    Brothers Nikolay and Sergey Sarkisov - owners and chairmen of the board of directors of RESO-Garantia - occupy 141 and 142 places in the list, respectively. The fortune of each of the brothers is estimated at $ 850 million.

    Russian entrepreneur of Armenian origin, founder and member of the board of directors of ABBYY group of companies, co-founder of iiko, Findo and Ayb Foundation David Yan is ranked 174th. His fortune is estimated at $ 700 million.

    - they will fold 10% of their fortune, it will be possible to make an army more abruptly than the Russian one.
  6. Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
    Michael1950 (Michael) 29 November 2021 00: 52
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    Quote: gunnerminer
    The Armenians had the opportunity to dig engineering structures in convenient terrain along the lines of enemy strikes. There were tanks and vehicles for the transfer of units. There were air defense and electronic warfare equipment. There was no motivation to fight to the end. Turkey does not have much strength to fight prolonged hostilities in remote theaters of operations.

    - Armenian (Russian, of course, made) air defense and electronic warfare systems were absolutely ineffective against the Turkish "Bayraktar", which destroyed all Armenian armored and other equipment to smithereens. The defeat was monstrous, incredible, comparable only to a number of aspects of the Arab-Israeli wars ...
    1. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
      sgrabik (Sergei) 29 November 2021 07: 52
      +1
      We shouldn't blame everything on equipment, let's not forget about the most important thing - about the professionalism and training of personnel, which in the Armenian army tends to absolute zero.
      1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 29 November 2021 11: 49
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        For some reason, the assessment of the National General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces of the Armenian combat readiness in July 2020 was positive.
  7. Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
    Michael1950 (Michael) 29 November 2021 00: 54
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    Quote: Pink 123 Floyd 328
    - they will fold 10% of their fortune, it will be possible to make an army more abruptly than the Russian one.

    - They won't fold ...
  8. Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
    Michael1950 (Michael) 29 November 2021 12: 36
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    Quote: sgrabik
    We shouldn't blame everything on equipment, let's not forget about the most important thing - about the professionalism and training of personnel, which in the Armenian army tends to absolute zero.

    - It's not true - it was all about technology. If Radar "Tora" does not see "Bayraktar" at the range of dropping bombs- even though Academician Hambardzumyan will sit there at the console, it will not help ... crying
  9. Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
    Michael1950 (Michael) 30 November 2021 01: 48
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    Quote: gunnerminer
    For some reason, the assessment of the National General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces of the Armenian combat readiness in July 2020 was positive.

    - How would it be "contrived" and without a mat to formulate ?? lol "What is the NGSH, such is the assessment ..." laughing