Source: Soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine missed, trying to use the American Javelin


Attempts by the Armed Forces of Ukraine to use the American Javelin anti-tank systems against the militia forces in Donbass were unsuccessful. As a source told the newspaper "News", in both cases, which were recorded in the LPNR, the missiles did not reach their targets.


It was not armored vehicles that came under fire, but fortifications at the checkpoints. Ammunition missed the target

- said a source familiar with the situation.

Earlier, the head of the subcommittee of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine on the defense industry, Igor Kopytin, said that the Armed Forces of Ukraine received the consent of the United States to use Javelins in Donbass, noting that Kiev has the right to use any means and forces to “defend its land”.

Recall the Russian military commander Dmitry Steshin skeptical the likelihood of the use of the Armed Forces of American anti-tank systems. The journalist pointed to the absence of any evidence that the Ukrainian military is being trained in the use of Javelins, calling the supply of ATGMs a PR campaign.
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  1. aquarius580 Offline aquarius580
    aquarius580 24 November 2021 10: 57
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    It was not armored vehicles that came under fire, but fortifications at the checkpoints.

    - complete nonsense. Javelin is intended solely to destroy armored vehicles, and from above, i.e. the blow is applied to the turret of the tank to neutralize the firing system.
    1. Oleg Gorshkov Offline Oleg Gorshkov
      Oleg Gorshkov (Oleg Gorshkov) 24 November 2021 11: 12
      +8
      and what is nonsense? popularized Western weapons only work at exhibitions. Maybe that's why the Western coalition was unable to get a military victory in any conflict?
      1. aquarius580 Offline aquarius580
        aquarius580 24 November 2021 11: 16
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        Iraq was occupied very quickly, simply by buying Saddam's darned warriors. Likewise, Afghan was kept as long as it was needed. The departures were a purely political decision.
    2. Kristallovich Online Kristallovich
      Kristallovich (Ruslan) 24 November 2021 11: 15
      +6
      complete nonsense. Javelin is intended solely to destroy armored vehicles.

      Complete nonsense just write you. The Javelin has no technical limitations to hit other ground targets, including all kinds of fortifications, as well as low-flying and low-speed objects such as helicopters. The main thing is that the target is warm contrast. The HOS exposure setting range allows you to hit objects even in conditions of low thermal contrast.
      1. aquarius580 Offline aquarius580
        aquarius580 24 November 2021 11: 21
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        Technical limitations have nothing to do with a specific combat mission. Trump gave the command to put Javelins for a very specific situation: to repel a Russian tank attack.
        In addition, the bunker is not a thermal contrast target, unlike a tank.
        1. Kristallovich Online Kristallovich
          Kristallovich (Ruslan) 24 November 2021 12: 01
          +5
          It doesn't matter what Trump said there.

          The bunker is not a thermal contrast target, unlike a tank.

          It depends on a number of conditions. If the weather is cold, and the bunker is heated with a stove-stove (which is not just possible - in fact, this is what they do), then there will be a contrast.
          1. Dan Offline Dan
            Dan (Daniel) 28 November 2021 19: 30
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            Quote: Kristallovich
            and the bunker is heated with a stove-stove (which is not just possible - in fact, this is how they do it), then there will be a contrast.

            We take the pipe to the side, a couple of hours of work with smoke breaks, and no problem. laughing
      2. zenion Offline zenion
        zenion (zinovy) 25 November 2021 19: 06
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        So, in order for it to hit the target, a candle must be lit inside the target?
        1. Kristallovich Online Kristallovich
          Kristallovich (Ruslan) 25 November 2021 19: 09
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          There must be a temperature difference. Which one - no one will tell you. But if any dugout is frozen through and through, then the Javelin is unlikely to distinguish it.
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    3. greenchelman Offline greenchelman
      greenchelman (Grigory Tarasenko) 24 November 2021 14: 34
      +5
      o_0 Your knowledge of aquarius580 is amazing ...

    4. avg Offline avg
      avg (Alexander) 24 November 2021 17: 10
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      Quote: aquarius580
      the blow is applied to the turret of the tank to neutralize the firing system.

      Sorry, which system?
  2. aries2200 Offline aries2200
    aries2200 (aries) 24 November 2021 12: 06
    +4
    expired products probably ...
  3. greenchelman Offline greenchelman
    greenchelman (Grigory Tarasenko) 24 November 2021 14: 16
    +2
    Those. Didn't Budanov lie, as Steshin claims?

    Well-known Russian military journalist Dmitry Steshin reacted to these words. According to the military commander, Budanov is openly lying, claiming the use of Javelins in Donbass. Steshin points to the absence of any photo or video evidence that the Ukrainian military was entrusted with such complex and expensive missile systems.

    Therefore, it is logical to assume that the information that "the attempts of the Ukrainian Armed Forces to use the American Javelin anti-tank systems against the militia in the Donbas were unsuccessful" may also be from the category of information like Steshin.
  4. Bond Offline Bond
    Bond (bond) 25 November 2021 05: 51
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    Why wonder what can be found under the tail? Obviously not a brain, but g ... but.
  5. zenion Offline zenion
    zenion (zinovy) 25 November 2021 19: 04
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    It's okay if he didn't hit anyone. He will then return back to them. And they can use it again by launching it with a slingshot.
  6. shiva Offline shiva
    shiva (Ivan) 25 November 2021 23: 01
    +2
    Training - what is it? There was news that the racket was released, the splash - 20 or even less - meters from the shooter and the team of instructors. All right there with their nose in the mud. the Americans blinked in half an hour, called a demining team, patted the valiant zhovto-blakitny fighter on the shoulder, trying not to pay attention to his and his smell, which seeped even through certified Johnsons baby diapers, and decided for now, can we shoot ourselves as an example?
    The example came out as an embarrassment - they did not hit a stationary target as many as two times, which caused laughter from the proud ukrov, who offered - let us carry this rocket with our hands and like a shandarahn! To which the instructors happily agreed.