Donbass militia got the newest modification of MLRS "Grad" based on KAMAZ

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Observers of the OSCE mission in Donbass with the help of a drone discovered an alleged accumulation of military equipment in the amount of 11 units on the territory of the DPR. After that, accusations were heard in the direction of Russia that Moscow was arming the Donbass militias.


According to the OSCE, the photographs show, among other things, the latest modifications of 40-barrel 122-mm MLRS 2B26 "Grad" based on the modified KamAZ-5350 chassis, which are in service only with the RF Armed Forces. Since 2012, such MLRS have been demonstrated in Russia at military parades. This gave the propagandists a reason to write that the militia "again dug up weapons in the mines."




In the West and in Ukraine, they are convinced that Moscow also handed over to Donetsk and Lugansk upgraded 40-barrel 122-mm MLRS 9K51M "Tornado-G" based on the Ural-4320 chassis. They differ from their predecessor 9K51 "Grad" by a more advanced fire control system with satellite navigation and the ability to calculate ballistic indicators for aiming at target coordinates in automatic mode.
  • Used photographs: Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and OSCE
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  1. Vladest Offline Vladest
    Vladest (Vladimir) 23 November 2021 15: 35
    -16
    This is a miracle, not to have anything and to have everything you need. Someone is either lying that "they are not there" or "militias" have magic.
    1. Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
      Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 23 November 2021 16: 22
      +16
      The Ukrainian military began to use French APILAS rocket launchers in Donbass, which is actually a hand-held anti-tank disposable grenade launcher. This is despite the fact that France is a member of the Normandy format. Are you so naive, believing that Russia will close its eyes? soon berries will go in the form of ATGM "Hermes", Pantsirey "and" Thors "
      1. Vladest Offline Vladest
        Vladest (Vladimir) 23 November 2021 16: 45
        -14
        And you did not think that this is what they are ruining Russia on? For world society, Russia is an aggressor. The US sanctions have already cost Russia tens of billions of dollars. And the end is not in sight. What is the meaning of all this badyagi?

        Quote: Stanislav Bykov
        Grads "these are flowers, berries will soon go in the form of anti-tank missile systems" Hermes ", Pantsirey" and "Thors"

        This is also down the drain. All this does not plow and does not build roads, but costs more than a tractor or a truck. And the people that give their lives to you do not mind?
        1. 123 Offline 123
          123 (123) 23 November 2021 17: 04
          +14
          And you did not think that this is what they are ruining Russia on? For world society, Russia is an aggressor.

          Why is it so pretentious? We're not at a rally. Keep it simple. our master thinks ... We all understand who we are talking about yes

          The US sanctions have already cost Russia tens of billions of dollars. And the end is not in sight. What is the meaning of all this badyagi?

          You still don't get it? The impact of sanctions on trade between the US and Russia is minimal. Decrease in trade with the EU. Your master prohibits you from earning and trading with Russia.

          This is also down the drain. All this does not plow and does not build roads, but costs more than a tractor or a truck. And the people that give their lives to you do not mind?

          Are you going to build a pacifist out of yourself? How many Afghans did your punishers kill?
          And yes, with all my heart I wish you to experience the share of Donbass yes
        2. Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
          Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 23 November 2021 17: 09
          +11
          This is also down the drain. All this does not plow and does not build roads, but costs more than a tractor or a truck. And the people that give their lives to you do not mind?

          Do not shift everything from a sore head to a healthy one, try to ask these questions to the leadership of Ukraine and their curators, first of all, that is, to those who brewed this massacre. Donbass is not bombing Kiev, everything is exactly the opposite
          1. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
            Alexndr p (Alexander) 23 November 2021 17: 22
            +10
            is it difficult to explain something? no way? wassat
            can't be guys laughing

            Vladest (Volodymyr) is the most useless waste of my state - the purchase of your barn together with souls and cattle in 1721.

            And buy kamazik at your factory and give it to men defending freedom from your new (!) the owners are the suitability.
          2. Vladest Offline Vladest
            Vladest (Vladimir) 23 November 2021 17: 35
            -11
            Quote: Stanislav Bykov
            ask the leadership of Ukraine

            And I’ll ask you a question, if your windows were beaten every day, would you be on the doorstep and steal mail, would you sit with your hands folded? So do not think that mattresses and rags live in Ukraine.
            Most likely it is normal for people to defend themselves. How many years did it take to Chechnya?
            Have created a problem for themselves and Ukraine is to blame.
            1. Adler77 Offline Adler77
              Adler77 (Denis) 23 November 2021 20: 07
              +9
              That's just the opposite, it's our Ukrainians who poop the whole history under the door for us.
            2. akarfoxhound Offline akarfoxhound
              akarfoxhound 24 November 2021 14: 25
              +5
              Since 91, Sumerlia has been shitting under the door of Russia, and she has been feeding her incessantly (like it's a pity, brothers, yeah). Even with Kravchuk on UkrTV, the neighbor was to blame for all the troubles of the household, without stopping (I had seen enough of this crazy Novin enough). We ourselves, all of Sevastopol and Crimea, left your jumping banderziania. Now drown yourself in your Natsik guana! The main thing is you slurp it already without us!
            3. tulip Offline tulip
              tulip 24 November 2021 14: 48
              +4
              it is your ukrokartels pinned to the Donbass to kill, rape and rob, and not the Russians and the militias in Kiev and Lvov. so it is not necessary to shift from your sick Svidomo head to a healthy one. The Russian world came to Crimea and there is no shooting there, but Bandera's Svidomo world is pinned on Donbass, bringing death and devastation. That's the whole difference
        3. YES UZH Offline YES UZH
          YES UZH (YES) 23 November 2021 18: 10
          +5
          So that you do not fulfill your promises to crack down, these people will have everything they need to survive.
          And you can continue to dance barefoot and keep warm. It is better for us to receive sanctions for something useful than just like that. In any case, your owners will continue to have you in turn.
        4. Adler77 Offline Adler77
          Adler77 (Denis) 23 November 2021 20: 05
          +4
          The point is that the militia would hold out for at least a day, and then the bear will wake up.
          I think so.
          And the more Ukraine is pumped up with weapons, the more things will be dug up in the mines.
          it was allowed to notice, on purpose, so that it would remember in vain that the militia also has a bosom stone ...
        5. Vdars Offline Vdars
          Vdars (Victor) 24 November 2021 09: 53
          +2
          My friend, I absolutely do not mind the defenders of the coup d'etat shooting.
        6. Face Offline Face
          Face (Alexander Lik) 24 November 2021 23: 51
          +1
          Ask your penguins for the savings. And we do not like it for good people
      2. Binder Offline Binder
        Binder (Miron) 23 November 2021 19: 39
        -12
        Quote: Stanislav Bykov
        "Grads" are flowers, berries will soon go in the form of ATGM "Hermes", Armor "and" Thors "

        Excellent targets for UAVs. yes
        1. isofat Offline isofat
          isofat (isofat) 23 November 2021 20: 00
          +5
          Binder, and Zelensky is not a disgrace to your nation? I am interested in your opinion.
          1. Binder Offline Binder
            Binder (Miron) 23 November 2021 20: 05
            -11
            Zelensky is definitely not a shame. winked This is just my opinion, perhaps one of the Jews thinks differently ...
            1. isofat Offline isofat
              isofat (isofat) 23 November 2021 20: 23
              +3
              It is he who allocates money to Bandera. Your relatives apparently did not suffer from the Nazis. And they killed Zelensky. Bandera.

              How did he insult the victims of the Holocaust when he was in Jerusalem? Didn't you hear where he didn't go?
              1. Binder Offline Binder
                Binder (Miron) 23 November 2021 22: 39
                -7
                My relatives were really not victims of the Nazis, more and more they served in the Red Army, and not only men but also women ... And where Zelensky did not go, I am not interested at all - let him go wherever he wants.
                1. isofat Offline isofat
                  isofat (isofat) 23 November 2021 23: 39
                  0
                  I don't think they'll let him walk wherever he pleases.

                  The less we need, the freer we are.
                  1. Binder Offline Binder
                    Binder (Miron) 24 November 2021 00: 47
                    -4
                    Quote: isofat
                    The less we need, the freer we are.

                    The truth is ancient, but it has not lost its relevance. good
            2. Vdars Offline Vdars
              Vdars (Victor) 24 November 2021 10: 04
              0
              A person who does not possess the signed, except for the poet, CANNOT be otherwise !!
        2. Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
          Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 23 November 2021 21: 22
          +3
          Excellent targets for UAVs.

          There was a lot of controversy on this topic, there is no desire to raise it first, I will just say:

          According to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), 47 Turkish drones were shot down in hostilities in the regions of the world. Between 13 and 15 Bayraktars were destroyed in the Karabakh conflict

          Considering that the Pantsiri have now been modernized taking into account the Syrian experience, Ukrainian drones may turn out to be an easy target.
          1. Binder Offline Binder
            Binder (Miron) 23 November 2021 22: 41
            -7
            So after all, Turkish engineers do not sit idle - they also modernize and improve their products. Therefore, one should not have high hopes.
            1. Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
              Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 23 November 2021 23: 03
              +2
              Bindyuzhnik, don't you worry so laughing , the "Pantsiri" will not be able, we will adjust the "Buki M3" of the latest modification, most of the "Bayraktars" were shot down by them, only by less advanced versions. Passports were handed out, the economies of the republics began to be integrated into the Russian one, and now Grady has appeared. Therefore, dill should not have high hopes, Russia will not give up Donbass to be torn apart yes
              1. Binder Offline Binder
                Binder (Miron) 24 November 2021 00: 57
                -11
                Why should I worry? The problems with the unrecognized republics lie entirely with Russia and its citizens, and time is working against the Russian Federation. And any solution to these problems for Russia is initially a losing one, except for one - to leave Donbass alone.
                1. Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
                  Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 24 November 2021 01: 31
                  +5
                  leave Donbass alone

                  The crystal dream of the Azov and Right Sector regiments is distant and unrealizable. Do you know that they want to distribute Donbass residents to filtration camps after Russia “leaves Donbass alone?” You are like a Jew whose relatives were in the Red Army Do you think this is permissible? Or maybe you yourself are the same fascist?
                  1. Binder Offline Binder
                    Binder (Miron) 24 November 2021 04: 09
                    -9
                    Quote: Stanislav Bykov
                    want to distribute Donbass residents to filtration camps after Russia "leaves Donbass alone"

                    I know for sure that this is complete nonsense, inventions of stupid propagandists.
                    1. Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
                      Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 24 November 2021 07: 30
                      +4
                      I know for sure that this is complete nonsense, inventions of stupid propagandists.

                      This is not a fiction of propagandists, this is what volunteer commanders and officials are talking about publicly. Offhand, Minister of Defense Reznikov called Donbass a cancerous tumor, Tymoshenko said that Donbass should be bombed with nuclear weapons so that there would be no surviving field left of it. And absolutely fascist language law, and this is nonsense? Go to one of the regular torchlight processions in honor of Bandera in Kiev; lol
                    2. akarfoxhound Offline akarfoxhound
                      akarfoxhound 24 November 2021 14: 31
                      +4
                      Nonsense is a state of your sanity, and what the patient knows exactly in this state is interesting only to the doctor. laughing
                    3. tulip Offline tulip
                      tulip 24 November 2021 14: 51
                      +3
                      Russia will not only return Donbass, but the whole of Novorossiya over time, and you should buy a ticket to Ridna Kanadchina in advance
        3. akarfoxhound Offline akarfoxhound
          akarfoxhound 24 November 2021 14: 27
          +3
          Of you, too, are wonderful ground targets, do not worry, in humpbacked minds it also flies laughing
        4. Face Offline Face
          Face (Alexander Lik) 24 November 2021 23: 55
          +1
          Bindyuzhnik, the Torah hasn't come out yet.
      3. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
        gunnerminer (gunner miner) 23 November 2021 23: 21
        -6
        Russia will not close its eyes, will look and express concern.
        1. Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
          Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 24 November 2021 00: 09
          +2
          Russia will not close its eyes, will look and express concern.

          There is no need for the patience and caution of Russia to accept weakness, Russia is weighing all the risks, and in the West they are simply torn away from reality. I want to remind you that the "European package" of sanctions on Russia was imposed precisely because of the Donbass. And what? Russia retreated? they stand still and do not dare to advance. These facts indicate that in the West they still understand that because of this "little fire" in the Donbass such a fire can blaze that little will seem to anyone. This is not a wooden sword on a plastic horse to wave
          1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
            gunnerminer (gunner miner) 24 November 2021 12: 50
            -4
            Over the past 7 years, the LPNR militias have not built adequate engineering defensive structures and belts, because this will interfere with the flows of smuggling. The sanctions were imposed because of the Crimea. There will be no fire. Gazprom fears the loss of customers in the EU, more than a nuclear war. Foreign founders in Gazprom and Rosneft battalions and regiments.
    2. sgrabik Offline sgrabik
      sgrabik (Sergei) 23 November 2021 16: 41
      +3
      Well, not only Ukrainian mattress covers can be armed in the open, without any fear, we also will not look at this for a long time and indifferently, everything has its conceivable limits !!!
  2. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 23 November 2021 15: 44
    +5
    Perhaps it was Abkhazia that transferred its weapons in response to the javelins and bayraktars?
    1. Vladest Offline Vladest
      Vladest (Vladimir) 23 November 2021 16: 48
      -9
      Quote: Bulanov
      Perhaps it was Abkhazia that transferred its weapons in response to the javelins and bayraktars?

      Why is Abkhazia better than the LPR, Recognition in the world by four countries.
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 23 November 2021 17: 08
        +6
        Why is Abkhazia better than the LPR, Recognition in the world by four countries.

        If you are clever, we will withdraw the recognition of the independence of the Baltic states. yes me too ... pomor separatists sad
        1. Vladest Offline Vladest
          Vladest (Vladimir) 23 November 2021 17: 30
          -6
          Quote: 123
          If you are clever, we will withdraw the recognition of the independence of the Baltic states.

          Your remarks are not constructive and meaningless. Do not litter the vorum.
          1. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) 24 November 2021 21: 05
            +2
            Your remarks are not constructive and meaningless. Do not litter the vorum.

            If you will crawl under your skin, we will create the Lithuanian Autonomous Region on the southern coast of the Laptev Sea good , collect the forum there feel
      2. tulip Offline tulip
        tulip 24 November 2021 14: 53
        +3
        The most interesting thing is that your Ukraine DOESN'T have internationally recognized borders, which even the UN said, since the border with Russia has not been fully formalized))) And you are all worried about Abkhazia
  3. Alexander Zima Offline Alexander Zima
    Alexander Zima (Alexander Zima) 23 November 2021 16: 30
    +1
    Even under Zakhara at an exhibition of weapons in Donetsk. the militias showed their hail ... and something like oxygen tanks but more long-range missiles ..
  4. AND Offline AND
    AND 23 November 2021 18: 05
    +2
    Quote: Vladest
    Quote: 123
    If you are clever, we will withdraw the recognition of the independence of the Baltic states.

    Your remarks are not constructive and meaningless. Do not litter the vorum.

    Vorum is in Estonia, you have the wrong address. Your patriots on euro sites only know how to blow the American tune well.
  5. YES UZH Offline YES UZH
    YES UZH (YES) 23 November 2021 18: 20
    +4
    Quote: Vladest
    Quote: Stanislav Bykov
    ask the leadership of Ukraine

    And I’ll ask you a question, if your windows were beaten every day, would you be on the doorstep and steal mail, would you sit with your hands folded? So do not think that mattresses and rags live in Ukraine.
    Most likely it is normal for people to defend themselves. How many years did it take to Chechnya?
    Have created a problem for themselves and Ukraine is to blame.

    And who crap you so and where? It is you in the DPR and LPR that are just doing this from 20 on the 14th, in Odessa, and Korsun-Shevchenkovsky, and we remember the "friendship" trains, and the Moskalyak to the Gilyak, this was all before. So don't put the cart in front of the horse.
  6. Danyla Offline Danyla
    Danyla (Vasily Doinichenko) 24 November 2021 02: 54
    +6
    And who cares about the fact that we supply something to the Donetsk republics (if even this is true)? At one time, both s and the Europeans supplied weapons to Chechnya, Arab mercenaries slaughtered Russian soldiers. The Ukrainians sold in general all the weapons they had, and the Nazis (hohlyatskie) participated in the monstrous torture and murder of our fighters on a par with the frostbitten Chechens and Arabs. Therefore, all advanced weapons must be supplied to the DPR and LPR.
  7. Ivanovich_2 Offline Ivanovich_2
    Ivanovich_2 (Sergey Protopopov) 24 November 2021 06: 50
    +1
    Against the background of the purchase of weapons and the refusal of the Minsk agreements by Ukraine, it is high time to arm the miners
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  9. Evgeny Vinokhodov Offline Evgeny Vinokhodov
    Evgeny Vinokhodov (Evgeny Vinokhodov) 24 November 2021 10: 51
    +3
    And why should Russia throw the DPR to pieces. The fascist West throws itself at us with all its lies.
  10. Face Offline Face
    Face (Alexander Lik) 24 November 2021 23: 50
    +1
    The Eurosumerians just now puffed with joy that their military-industrial complex was successfully buying bayraktars and javelins. And just yesterday the old new American boats were brought up.
    So the more MLRS and other pacifiers the militia has, the better.