Russia has come close to an important milestone in the development of microelectronics


On November 11, Sberbank launched its new Christophari Neo supercomputer with a capacity of almost 12 pf. He became the most powerful among the devices of this class in Russia. However, a few days later Yandex presented its machines: Lyapunov, Galushkin, Chervonenkis, whose productivity is even higher than that of Christofari Neo.


All this allowed our country to make a real breakthrough in the world ranking of supercomputers, taking 8th and 9th places in terms of total productivity and the number of machines, respectively.

At the moment, construction of new systems is already underway, which will operate on the basis of the domestic Elbrus-8SV processors. Over the next two years, supercomputers based on 16-nanometer 16-nuclear Elbrus-16C chips will also appear. At the same time, by 2026, it is planned to create a system with a capacity of 100 PF based on 32-nuclear Elbrus-32S.

However, the aforementioned successes of Russia in the field of microelectronics are not limited to.

In addition to Elbrus, Russia is also developing a line of Baikal processors. So far, chips are being created at 28-nanometer Technology... However, literally this week it became known about the start of work on two new chips. The 12nm Baikal-L is being built for mobile, and the 6nm. Baikal-S2 is being developed for data centers.

But that's not all. In our country, preparations have begun for the launch of domestic production for growing crystals for electronic equipment, which are now purchased from the United States and Europe at exorbitant prices.

All of the above indicates that Russia has come close to an important milestone in the development of domestic microelectronics, and in the coming years we are expecting new important achievements in this industry.

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  1. gorenina91 Online gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 25 November 2021 13: 28
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    Russia has come close to an important milestone in the development of microelectronics

    - Well, yes ... - "Once ........... I went out of the forest and ... and ... and - and went in again ..." ...
    1. Fardibaka Offline Fardibaka
      Fardibaka (Alexey) 25 November 2021 13: 45
      +3
      If we do not leave the forest, then we will cease to exist as Neanderthals!
    2. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
      Alexndr p (Alexander) 25 November 2021 14: 08
      +9
      Well, yes ... - "Once ........... I went out of the forest and ... and ... and - and went in again ..." ...

      Comrade Warrant Officer, as always, you covered the ax with your wisdom.
      May I quote you?
  2. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 25 November 2021 13: 52
    -7
    As always, not a letter about the price of the products.

    But both Baikal and Elbrus have been produced for a long time.
    We are waiting for them in regular sale
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunnerminer) 25 November 2021 20: 01
      -9
      Baikals are produced in Taiwan. On the territory of the American mongrel. Failures in the matter of import substitution in the field of electronics are covered by the crafty word “localization”. And behind the indicators of the localization of the electronic industry in Russia stick out the ears of the giants of Silicon Valley (Microsoft, Apple, Amazon, Facebook, Alphabet with its part Google, etc.) and other foreign IT companies. Probably, no one knows the real state of the entire industry better than Vasily Shpak, director of the radio-electronic industry department of the Ministry of Industry and Trade of Russia. And he admitted that most of the so-called “localized” products are created at “screwdriver factories”: “Localization of production in Russia makes it possible for us to create jobs, and for foreign companies to be closer to the consumer of their products, both logistically and in terms of customization (making adjustments to standard products taking into account the customer's requirements - V.K.) to the requirements of the local market.
  3. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 25 November 2021 14: 30
    +4
    God grant! this is no less important than zircons. There is no need to spare money in these industries. This is both the present and the future.
  4. gorenina91 Online gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 25 November 2021 17: 35
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    At the moment, construction of new systems is already underway, which will operate on the basis of the domestic Elbrus-8SV processors. Over the next two years, supercomputers based on 16-nanometer 16-nuclear Elbrus-16C chips will also appear. At the same time, by 2026, it is planned to create a system with a capacity of 100 PF based on 32-nuclear Elbrus-32S.

    - No, well ... - what is there ... here ... here is especially "happy" - all this thanks to 28 nm technology and equipment from the Taiwanese company TSMC ...
    - Why should Russia throw out (invest in it) billions ??? - To create a 28 nm production ???
    - Damn, while all this is being built - everything will go so far ahead that all this production will become "yesterday" ...
    - Today, it is worth bothering with all your might over the creation of quantum computers ... - this will be a real breakthrough ... - this is where Russia needs to "invest money" ...
    - Well, but by the way - for ordinary people, and such infa is good ...
    - Here, in general, there is a man who has a "cherished dream" - this is "to get a rank" - a warrant officer ... - well, he dreamed and cherished the little man, nurtured and hoped - but something did not grow together ... - but the dream remained ... - and she (this dream) sits in him - like a splinter ... - Well, the person dreamed of becoming an ensign, but it didn't work out ... - so she can't calm down in any way .. ...
    - It's like in some kind of children's "letter counting":

    Tapir hung his nose forever,
    He is sad about one thing:
    He was going to become an elephant
    Yes, and not mature enough ...

    - Well, what - we can only envy - and "that" and "this" ... - Hahah ...
    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
      gunnerminer (gunnerminer) 25 November 2021 20: 02
      -6
      In reality, all foreign manufacturers promote finished products manufactured at their own factories abroad, as usual, with the only exceptions that the partner's logo (whitebox) is "glued" to the case, and the products are delivered in disassembled form to the Russian Federation, where they are assembly".
      Not only that, such "localized" products mine the entire country (the "bookmarks" contained in it allow you to discreetly remove the necessary information about the user and his activities, block the operation of servers and other electronic equipment on a signal from the outside, stop the work of industrial enterprises and energy facilities, withdraw failure of the weapon system, etc.).
      Such "localization", as Vasili Shpak admitted, also means permanent robbery of the country. He explained that localization in the field of ICT (information and communication technologies) has the following peculiarity: the bulk of the added value (up to 80%) comes from the intellectual component, and the share of own production is only 8% - 10%.
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 26 November 2021 14: 24
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        the main part of the added value (up to 80%) is accounted for by the intellectual component, and the share of own production is only 8% - 10%.

        Baikals are produced in Taiwan, on the territory of the American mongrel.

        Bravo good You say that the "American mongrel" gets 8-10%.
        Elbruses are their own design, Baikals were built by Russian specialists on the MIPS architecture.

        Wave Computing, California, has announced the launch of the MIPS Open, a free MIPS processor architecture licensing program. As part of the first stage, MIPS Open participants will be provided with free access to 32-bit and 64-bit developments of the MIPS architecture of the latest sixth version (MIPS R6).

        Wave Computing representatives did not specify the type of open license available under MIPS Open, however, clarified that licensing does not imply any royalties.

        https://www.cnews.ru/news/top/2019-03-29_mips_razdast_besplatnye_litsenzii_na_novejshie

        Through the MIPS Open program, members have full access to the latest version, R6, 32-bit and 64-bit MIPS architecture free of charge - no license fees or royalties.

        https://www.globenewswire.com/en/news-release/2019/03/28/1781544/0/en/Wave-Computing-Releases-First-MIPS-Open-Program-Components-to-Accelerate-Innovation-for-Next-Generation-System-on-Chip-Designs.html

        It turns out that "the main part of the added value (up to 80%)" belongs to Russian companies, while the Taiwanese work in the production?
        Are you a kremlebot? belay laughing
        1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
          gunnerminer (gunnerminer) 26 November 2021 15: 53
          -5
          Failures of attempts to start modern electronic production in Russia cannot be corrected by demagogic methods.

          According to rough estimates, the annual purchases of "hardware" and "software" by the entire fuel and energy complex in Russia amount to about one trillion rubles. So far, if we rely on the figure given by Y. Borisov, it turns out that imports in these purchases are 99,9%.

          I will cite some figures that have been recently announced by the heads of Russian companies acting as ICT producers. In February of this year, the director of the radio-electronic cluster of the state corporation Rostec Sergey Sakhnenko revealed another “secret of the Madrid court”, which was announced by the corporation's press service: “The share of foreign equipment in the volume of purchases of state-owned companies is 95%, only 5% according to the most optimistic estimates accounted for by domestic high-tech products. That is, large amounts of public funds are actually spent on supporting foreign producers. "
          1. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) 26 November 2021 20: 31
            +1
            Failures of attempts to start modern electronic production in Russia cannot be corrected by demagogic methods.

            Demagogic tricks? belay I just quoted you. Were you forced to write this under torture? As far as I understand, there are no more questions with added value? Is everything already good with Russian companies?
            Yes, the share of imports is still huge. This is just the beginning. Are you dissatisfied with the result? Show what you have achieved. What is not?
            Well then, it looks like a self-hypnosis session, it seems that you yourself are convincing yourself with mantras about second hand and 50-year-old boards.
            1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
              gunnerminer (gunnerminer) 26 November 2021 21: 41
              -3
              That is why satellites do not fly in the required quantity, because of mantras instead of an electronic modern base. Even Rogozin senior shouted on this topic.

              MOSCOW, June 7 - RIA News.

              Roscosmos cannot launch a number of spacecraft due to sanctions on the supply of microelectronics to Russia, said Dmitry Rogozin, general director of Roscosmos.
              “When they say today that Roscosmos has put out less spacecraft than America, I answer the question: we have more than enough rockets. There is nothing to withdraw,” he said during parliamentary hearings in the State Duma.
              "Because there are spacecraft, practically assembled, but in one or the other or the third there is simply not enough one specific microcircuit, which, through sanctions, is not given to us in any way for the purchase," Rogozin added.
              1. 123 Offline 123
                123 (123) 26 November 2021 22: 28
                +2
                Therefore, satellites do not fly in the required quantity, because of the mantras instead of the electronic modern base.

                Whom and what are you trying to convince? Or just splash with saliva? smile
                Yes, there is a problem with electronics and no one hides it. They are working on its elimination.
                If yours is better, show your results. What was done in electronics, how many satellites were launched.
                1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                  gunnerminer (gunnerminer) 26 November 2021 22: 44
                  -4
                  Our Roskosmos launches few satellites.
                  1. 123 Offline 123
                    123 (123) 27 November 2021 00: 38
                    +1
                    Our Roskosmos launches few satellites.

                    Your green blisters under your nose.
                    1. gunnerminer Offline gunnerminer
                      gunnerminer (gunnerminer) 27 November 2021 00: 44
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                      Ivan Moiseev
                      Scientific Director of the Institute for Space Policy:

                      There are very good and powerful modern electronics in the new GLONASS satellites. An attempt to make analogs failed. The way out is either to continue to develop this direction and make our own technologies, and it will take an unknown amount of time and it will be very expensive, or to return to old devices that could work without this electronics, and this is a deterioration in the grouping of quality.

                      Andrey Ionin
                      Corresponding Member of the Russian Academy of Cosmonautics:

                      Now the same team that was involved in all this in the 2000s has returned to Roscosmos. Now they promise us that they will do it all, restore it. Just give them a lot of government money. I honestly don’t believe that. Saltykov-Shchedrin has a fairy tale "The Bear in the Voivodeship", there is such a phrase: "I don't believe, this officer was brave; for this is the same Taptygin, who mavo lyubimov Chizhika siel! " We will not be able to solve this problem only with the help of national resources. We need partners who are more advanced in the field of microelectronics. This should have been done, of course, earlier.
  5. steelmaker Online steelmaker
    steelmaker 25 November 2021 21: 18
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    Russia has come close to an important milestone in the development of microelectronics

    Smiled. All stores are packed with Chinese products. Avtovaz is completely dependent on imports.

    due to a shortage of components, production of Lada Granta will be suspended for a week, and Lada Niva cars will be produced in limited quantities.

    https://tass.ru/ekonomika/12139979
    Show these cartoons to Putin at night, so that his head does not hurt, what "galoshes" he will leave behind. And I would like that at least TVs and washing machines were Russian, not Chinese and Polish, etc.
    Russia in single copies can do everything! It can even show at the parade, but on an industrial scale, Russia is even for the army, and if tomorrow there is a war, there is simply no capacity.

    the United States has 8 Tomahawk cruise missiles on warships, while Russia has only 120 of its caliber.
    Moreover, if necessary, the United States can produce 15 thousand Tomahawks a year, while Russia - only 300. Collect more, they say, there is no production capacity.

    https://www.mk.ru/politics/2020/07/25/v-seti-podschitali-skolko-rossii-nuzhno-raket-chtoby-razoritsya.html

    Alexey Korukov, founder and CEO of VNITEP.

    - There is almost no machine-tool industry left in Russia, compared to 1990 it has decreased 167 times!

    Why are there so many Chinese machine tools in Russia? Because in China they help their manufacturers: those who sold the machine to Russia receive a subsidy.

    https://zen.yandex.ru/media/lsycheva/aleksei-korukov-stankostroenie-v-rossii-po-sravneniiu-s-1990-godom-sokratilos-v-167-raz-6197b84c88862d151627fa21

    Our industry today is not able to mass-produce serious new military products, says expert Pavel Felgenhauer.

    2 сентября 2021, 10:10https://www.rosbalt.ru/russia/2021/09/02/1919195.html
    This is what I did, I didn't really look for it. For 20 years of reign, even poets did not appear, and the Zaputins dream of electronics.

    I know the city will be
    I know the garden is blooming
    when such people
    in the country in the Soviet Union is!


    1929 Vladimir Mayakovsky.
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 27 November 2021 00: 45
      0
      Show these cartoons to Putin at night, so that his head does not hurt, what "galoshes" he will leave behind. And I would like that at least TVs and washing machines were Russian, not Chinese and Polish, etc.
      Russia in single copies can do everything! It can even show at the parade, but on an industrial scale, Russia is even for the army, and if tomorrow there is a war, there is simply no capacity.

      Here they are your ears yes Advanced, Soviet non-oligarchs good Try to find a Russian letter on the computer.



      For your convenience, a picture with a keyboard.


      And you have enough conscience about electronics and galoshes to tell?
      Say hello to Rashkin moose in a ravine who is eating up winked
      1. steelmaker Online steelmaker
        steelmaker 27 November 2021 19: 38
        -2
        Why not give an example of the first and last flight of Buran? But because Putin, that zaputintsy, you hate your people and country !! On the go, invent fairy tales about "our terrible past." Also tell me that everything there was 99% foreign, confirm your mediocrity !!!

        1. 123 Offline 123
          123 (123) 28 November 2021 00: 19
          0
          Why not give an example of the first and last flight of Buran?

          Because he was the first and the last. And you deign to dissolve snot about mass production.

          But because Putin, that zaputintsy, you hate your people and country !!

          Do you and Rashkin love him? How is the moose?

          Also say that everything there was 99% foreign, confirm your mediocrity !!!

          And where about the lack of education? Getting old? even a jagged stamp is difficult to write?
          1. steelmaker Online steelmaker
            steelmaker 28 November 2021 10: 00
            -2
            a jagged stamp is difficult to write

            And you already learned it by heart.

            Do you and Rashkin love him? How is the moose?

            And what about the son of Medvedev did not remember? If I begin to list the "shoals" of Putin and EP, then the page will not be enough. And what about Rashkin? This is how Putin built this system. I say: "Mediocrity rule!"
            1. 123 Offline 123
              123 (123) 28 November 2021 18: 27
              +1
              And what about the son of Medvedev did not remember?

              Why should I remember him? I don't know who he is at all. What position does he hold? If you are interested in kids, start with Gali Brezhneva.

              If I begin to list the "shoals" of Putin and EP, then the page will not be enough.

              You do this on a regular basis. You are constantly listing both real and imaginary, along with "mediocrities and education." Your "radio operator's handwriting" is recognizable.

              And what about Rashkin? This is how Putin built this system. I say: "Mediocrity rule!"

              Check your underpants for foreign matter. If you yourself know who you can blame winked So did Rashkin share the moose with the electorate? Not tough?
  6. zloybond Offline zloybond
    zloybond (steppenwolf) 25 November 2021 22: 34
    -5
    we got together ... we printed a plastic holiday X-r under a Christmas tree on an imported 3D printer, drank champagne, awarded each other with prizes and medals ... and now we still can't launch a new one, we draw all the sketches ... I'd better say nothing about microelectronics.
  7. Netyn Offline Netyn
    Netyn (Netyn) 26 November 2021 01: 12
    -1
    On November 11, Sberbank launched its new Christophari Neo supercomputer with a capacity of almost 12 pf. He became the most powerful among the devices of this class in Russia. However, a few days later, Yandex presented its cars: Lyapunov, Galushkin, Chervonenkis

    These computers use AMD and Nvidia products.
    This is how we took the Zrada-Peremog wheel from the Ukrainians
    PS There will be no microelectronics in Russia until the stores produced in Russia are freely sold - capacitors, diodes, soldering irons, multimeters and much more
  8. Netyn Offline Netyn
    Netyn (Netyn) 26 November 2021 01: 18
    0
    Quote: Sergey Latyshev
    We are waiting for them in regular sale

    Painful at all? This equipment is of B2B and B2G class - no one needs them at all in regular sales.
  9. Screw Offline Screw
    Screw (Gennady) 26 November 2021 11: 12
    +2
    40 years ago I saw rotary-revolving equipment at my electromechanical plant, now I look at the same machines in the photo. What has changed? Stamping and laser, etching and wave soldering, ruby ​​crystals were also 40 years ago. The liberals came and said - we will buy everything, the foreign countries will help us. Yeah.
    1. zenion Offline zenion
      zenion (zinovy) 26 November 2021 18: 30
      +2
      The factory where he worked was a milling machine with automatic equipment such as a computer. They made the most accurate and complex parts for the needs of the army. It was in 1963 in Sverdlovsk.
  10. zenion Offline zenion
    zenion (zinovy) 26 November 2021 18: 27
    +1
    Once, in a chilly winter season, I came out of the forest, it was very hot. I watched Ahmed, Mohamed, two bundles of firewood rise slowly up the mountain. Where do the firewood come from? From the woods, deaf or something, you hear your father chopping and we are a haulage.
  11. Alsur Offline Alsur
    Alsur (Alexey) 29 November 2021 12: 25
    +1
    Quote: Sergey Latyshev
    As always, not a letter about the price of the products.

    But both Baikal and Elbrus have been produced for a long time.
    We are waiting for them in regular sale

    It’s in vain, for the commercial use of these processors is out of the question, it’s expensive. But about the state and (or) military use, yes, that's what you need. It is worth a lot to keep our networks working if someone turns off some switch.
  12. Igor Berg Online Igor Berg
    Igor Berg (Igor Berg) 1 December 2021 15: 11
    0
    Where did it come nearer? And this is right there -
    https://topcor.ru/22909-dlja-proizvodstva-lajnera-ms-21-pridetsja-zanovo-sozdat-mikrojelektronnuju-otrasl.html