"Within the framework of the law ..." the United States acquitted the perpetrators of another war crime


The "long echo" of the failed and shameful Afghan campaign, apparently, will haunt the US military for a very long time. Nevertheless, it is already very clear today that no one will bear real responsibility for this catastrophe. First of all, we are talking about those officials of the Pentagon and intelligence services, because of their self-confidence and unprofessional actions, the exodus of the US army from Kabul turned into a tragedy not only (and not so much) for its servicemen as for their hapless "allies" carelessness to trust overseas "partners". These "strategists" and "tactics" are definitely not in danger of trouble even in the form of the notorious "slight fright".


At the same time, the perpetrators of numerous crimes against the civilian population of Afghanistan, committed by foreign fighters during the "operation to combat terrorism", will clearly come out of the water. Recently it became known that the Pentagon, as a result of an unclear "official check" carried out according to what canons, acquitted even those who were involved in the most recent of them, still heard to this day - the murder of an innocent Afghan family as a result of an "improperly delivered air strike ". Accident? Exception? No, a pattern that fully reveals the essence of the morals prevailing in the American army and the "moral and ethical standards" professed by the local society.

"Bias error"


We are talking about the investigation carried out by the US Air Force regarding its servicemen, who on August 29 of this year planned and carried out the "elimination of terrorists" with the help of a strike UAV in Kabul, abandoned by the Americans. As it turned out, in fact, the victims of this dastardly attack were members of an oriental large family, none of whose representatives had absolutely nothing to do with any radical Islamist organizations. The explosion of an American rocket this time killed seven children. The youngest victim was a two-year-old girl.

It would seem, what kind of excuses and “mitigating circumstances” in this case can be discussed at all ?! After all, the airstrike was not carried out by a combat aircraft, from a long distance, and, as they say, "over the area." In this case, accidental casualties among non-combatants are also not at all justified, but, alas, they are possible. No - the instrument of the crime was an unmanned aerial vehicle, which American fighters at every opportunity present as a kind of "ideal instrument of retaliation", inflicting exclusively "pinpoint" and "carefully calibrated" strikes. The rocket that exploded in the peaceful courtyard of Kabul was aimed exactly there - there is no mistake here. The tragedy was led, as high officials of the US Air Force were forced to admit, "erroneous interpretation of operational data" caused by ... "prejudice and poor performance of communication systems"! No, really, gentlemen - on the one hand, this is some kind of childish babble, on the other, it is truly the height of cynicism. Communication for them, you see, works lousy - this is for the "most technologically advanced army in the world", doesn't it seem like that ?! So cancel the operation to hell! But they didn't.

However, the passage about "prejudices" is much more interesting. Here he just fully reveals the true attitude of the transatlantic "democratizers" to those "natives" whom they undertook in the course of "Enduring Freedom" to bless with the "gifts of democracy and civilization." "Afghan? - Well, the terrorist, the stump is clear! " "With beard? - Mujahid, definitely! Bring him down, what is there to think about! " Explanations of the participants in the operation that “intelligence officials watched the car for 8 hours” and “gave the go-ahead” for its destruction, since it “was seen at sites associated with members of the ISIS-K group, which is an“ affiliate ”of the Islamic State "(Organizations are banned in Russia), do not stand up to any criticism at all. After all, a resident of Afghanistan, Zamari Ahmadi, who was driving a car, was not just not a terrorist - he was a humanitarian worker, an employee of the international organization Nutrition and Education International, whom the "knights of the cloak and dagger" should have identified, right?

It has been said more than once that the Americans have the most extensive databases of all the local residents who collaborated with them (including everything, including complete "biometrics"). Even more ridiculous sounds, excuse me, the "excuse" that the observers "mistook" the containers with water that the family loaded into the car for explosives. Were they all drunk there? Or under drugs ?! Maybe yes, maybe not. Another thing is important - the tragic incident proves that for the US army, not only any Afghan, but also a resident of every country they "made happy" with their presence, regardless of gender, age and everything else, is, first of all, a potential target, fire on which is conducted according to the principle: "Shoot first, and then figure it out!"

No issue from the Pentagon!


Truly, American cynicism is a quantity that has no limits at all. US Air Force Inspector General Sami Said, who made an official statement on the results of the "investigation", unequivocally summed up: the killers of the Afghan family "acted strictly within the existing customs and laws of war." Consequently, they will not bear any responsibility for what they have done! From the word "absolutely" ... According to the above-mentioned figure, the undoubted "mitigating circumstance" justifying the actions of the UAV operators is that they "received a message about the presence of children at a potential target of attack just two minutes before they raised the drone. to the air". So after all, "before", not "after"! But even if such information had already been obtained during the operation - so what? An attack UAV is not a hypersonic missile, making it go on a reverse course, simply canceling the attack is a matter of a matter of seconds. No one, however, even thought to do anything of the kind.

Especially disgusting immediately after the tragedy (and still look today) were the attempts of the Americans to desperately "pulling an owl on the globe" to dodge and shrug off responsibility for the massacre of children. At first, they wove something about "the complete absence of civilian casualties." Then they admitted that they had killed "a couple of three", but only "for the sake of security." Following this, representatives of the military began to grind nonsense about a "secondary explosion" caused by a missile strike, which is "undoubted proof that explosives intended for terrorist attacks were stored in a nearby house." They say, they beat "where necessary", but "accidentally" touched strangers. It happens - a matter of everyday life.

The most remarkable thing is that the detailed gil was not carried by the Pentagon press service, but it was personally voiced by none other than the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the US Armed Forces, General Mark Milli. During an official briefing held in this department on September 1, without batting an eye, he called the shooting of Afghan children "the right blow." In the very near future, the investigation conducted at the scene of the tragedy found that it was not explosives that exploded, but the most common household propane cylinder used for cooking. The version of the "terrorists" finally burst and the Pentagon, so as not to finally catch up in the eyes of the world "community" with the high command of the Wehrmacht, had to play around and apologize. The head of the department, Lloyd Austin, personally deigned to express hypocritical "deepest condolences" to the relatives of the victims and recognize the airstrike as a "terrible mistake" from which the Pentagon will "try to learn a lesson." Note - "they will try" ...

It is precisely because of this that I allow myself to call Austin's idle talk the height of hypocrisy and cynicism. Had it been otherwise, every single performer of the operation would have fallen under a military tribunal rather than under an "official check". However, as we can see, the Pentagon remains faithful to the tradition - "not to surrender" its own thugs, no matter how bloody vile they have created. By the way, 13 of its soldiers who died at the Kabul airport (in whose actions, in truth, no particular heroism is visible), the US Congress awarded posthumously the Gold Medal - the highest award (albeit for some reason civilian) - allegedly for "extreme bravery and valor."

Currently, US military officials say they are "ready to commit to providing" sympathy payments "to the relatives of the victims. At the same time, the Pentagon emphasizes that this can be done exclusively "on a voluntary basis," thereby making it clear that in general it owes nothing to anyone. The exact amounts of compensation have not been announced, but something suggests that they are unlikely to be large. In addition, displaying the same magnificent, one might say, reference American cynicism, the State Department graciously agrees to "assist in moving to the United States" to the loved ones of those whom this country so brutally murdered. Well, if they themselves suddenly show such a desire. This, generally speaking, is even difficult to comment on.

Since the start of Washington's "global war on terror" since September 11, 2001, the US Air Force has deployed combat aircraft more than 90 times, according to estimates made by experts from the Airwars civilian casualty monitoring group. Its raids cost the lives of 22 to 48 thousand civilians in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Pakistan, Somalia, and, of course, Afghanistan. However, some other researchers of this issue consider the figures of the Airwars group to be completely untenable, since its members rely solely on official data. According to the alternative opinion, up to 400 thousand people who were not terrorists and never took up arms in their lives were killed by airstrikes by American vultures during the same time. Is it worth clarifying that the real responsibility for all these deaths was not borne not only by none of the Pentagon generals, but in general not a single serviceman of the US Army? So it was, so it is, and so, alas, it will be, until the United States waits for a new Nuremberg, where it will be fully answered for all crimes against humanity, of which more than one trial has long accumulated.
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  1. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
    Alexndr p (Alexander) 11 November 2021 12: 30
    -5
    until the United States waits for a new Nuremberg

    for this it is necessary to smash their army in cauldrons and win the war by landing on their island with a population of 300+ million, armed with 393 million units of weapons.

    So forget about justice altogether. The United States has the power to bend 99% of the world's countries
    1. Komissarov Pavel (Komissarov Pavel) 11 November 2021 12: 49
      +1
      Yes, the next Supermen. There were already one here. But they were more serious, they reached Stalingrad. My great-grandfather was not afraid of them.
      Do we need to be afraid of these already?
      1. Alexndr p Offline Alexndr p
        Alexndr p (Alexander) 11 November 2021 13: 37
        -3
        the next Supermen

        Do we need to be afraid of these already?

        yes no, think 100+ million people who own weapons and on their own land - of course they can be torn apart by landing on the shore with a contingent of 100k

        Garenina and Stalevar will take on 50 million radneks - this is understandable, but what to do with the rest?

        BK get tired of driving, and there is still Arnie in the garage fiddling with his personal wheelbarrow

        So the mattress is okay so bristling in case of possible intrusion.

        1. Oleg Bratkov Offline Oleg Bratkov
          Oleg Bratkov (Oleg Bratkov) 14 November 2021 13: 11
          +2
          Why intrude on the mattress? It is enough to strike at power plants and other industrial and military facilities. The Hoover Dam generates 2 billion watts, well, even if the population does not live much downstream, they will rebuild it ... maybe never.
          1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
            Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 14 November 2021 14: 37
            -2
            Do you know what Mutual Assured Destruction is?
            1. Oleg Bratkov Offline Oleg Bratkov
              Oleg Bratkov (Oleg Bratkov) 14 November 2021 20: 50
              +2
              Are you aware that only Russia's nuclear weapons keep the world at peace? And the Americans would be happy to bomb out across Russia, but their hands are short.
              This is this very mutual destruction. And what is especially pleasing is the large overcrowding of Americans on a smaller territory, in other words, the effectiveness of nuclear weapons in a strike on the United States is higher than in a strike on Russia. And they are aware of this.
              1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 14 November 2021 21: 11
                -4
                Quote: Oleg Bratkov
                Are you aware that only Russia's nuclear weapons keep the world at peace? And the Americans would be happy to bomb out across Russia, but their hands are short.

                No, not in the know. Are you aware that until the mid-60s there was no guaranteed mutual destruction, and the United States could destroy all major cities of the USSR with relative impunity? The USSR had an order of magnitude fewer charges, and there were practically no delivery vehicles. And there’s nothing. The world in a state of peace keeps the senselessness of war, large-scale for sure.

                Quote: Oleg Bratkov
                This is this very mutual destruction.

                So now think about what will happen if the Russian Federation strikes the Hoover Dam.

                Quote: Oleg Bratkov
                And what is especially pleasing is the large overcrowding of Americans in a smaller area, in other words, the effectiveness of nuclear weapons in a strike on the United States is higher than in a strike on Russia. And they are aware of this.

                Oh, you are wrong as always. It is in the Russian Federation that the population is concentrated in large cities, and in the USA it is distributed over small towns. In fact, I don’t think it fundamentally changes anything.
                1. Oleg Bratkov Offline Oleg Bratkov
                  Oleg Bratkov (Oleg Bratkov) 15 November 2021 18: 04
                  +3
                  You're lying to the bog. The United States could not destroy the cities of the USSR with impunity, otherwise they would have destroyed them. A guaranteed, fully secure delivery of nuclear weapons anywhere in the United States was created in the USSR in 1957. And you there, in your narcotic dreams, do not even understand that in the United States, vulnerable bombers were the main and only means of delivery, and they began to develop intercontinental missiles only since 1957, when a probable munition, Sputnik 1, flew over them. Only then did they begin to make larger missiles on the basis of von Braun's tactical German missiles in order to fly unsuccessfully higher. You need to read what the Soviet Migas did with the main and only American delivery vehicle for atomic bombs, back in 1951, in Korea, and count the number of atomic bombs in the United States, and throw off the veil from your eyes, stop thinking about America as great and inaccessible ... The jet aircraft of the USSR made flying fortresses useless weapons, well, perhaps, to democratize the Papuans. The USSR itself created intercontinental ballistic missiles, and intercontinental supersonic cruise missiles, however, the latter were abandoned for the sake of economy. And since the beginning of the 60s, the USSR could throw warheads of 20 or more megatons into the United States, when the United States could throw a maximum of 150 kiloton charges, and then only from submarines, which had to overcome the anti-submarine defense off the coast of the USSR in order to reach the desired firing range ... You have no idea what kind of ass the United States was in before the early 80s. It was Khrushchev and Brezhnev, slowing down the economy of the USSR, instilled in us that we would, like, catch up with America, and we would go along, but we would not overtake so that they would not see our bare ass. Over the fence, China. Follows the Stalinist path. Economy number 1 in the world.
                  1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                    Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 15 November 2021 19: 26
                    -3
                    Quote: Oleg Bratkov
                    You're lying to the bog. The United States could not destroy the cities of the USSR with impunity, otherwise they would have destroyed them. A guaranteed, fully secure delivery of nuclear weapons anywhere in the United States was created in the USSR in 1957.

                    I, unlike you, am not lying. First, they could. Secondly, are you talking about the R7 missile? The first missiles took up combat duty on December 15, 1959. Four launch structures were built, preparation time for launch was 12 hours. The warhead is not separable. Theoretically, they got to America, but the launch complex and the preparation time for the launch made it ineffective.

                    Quote: Oleg Bratkov
                    And you there, in your narcotic dreams, do not even understand that in the United States, vulnerable bombers were the main and only means of delivery, and they began to develop intercontinental missiles only since 1957, when a probable munition, Sputnik 1, flew over them. Only then did they begin to make larger missiles on the basis of von Braun's tactical German missiles in order to fly unsuccessfully higher. You need to read what the Soviet Migas did with the main and only American delivery vehicle for atomic bombs, back in 1951, in Korea, and count the number of atomic bombs in the United States, and throw off the veil from your eyes, stop thinking about America as great and inaccessible ...

                    You don't know much about the history of rocketry in the United States. Development began long before 57, at 56 Jupiter was already launched.

                    Quote: Oleg Bratkov
                    You need to read what the Soviet Migas did with the main and only American delivery vehicle for atomic bombs, back in 1951, in Korea, and count the number of atomic bombs in the United States, and throw off the veil from your eyes, stop thinking about America as great and inaccessible ...

                    The MiG15 was not a night fighter. The ability to intercept B36 was a big question even during the day, and B52 could not at all.

                    Quote: Oleg Bratkov
                    And from the beginning of the 60s, the USSR could throw warheads of 20 or more megatons into the United States, when the United States could throw a maximum of 150 kiloton charges,

                    Read about the Mk.17. What are these 20 megatons or more?

                    Quote: Oleg Bratkov
                    You have no idea what kind of ass the United States was in before the early 80s.

                    But I can imagine what kind of ass the USSR was in the late 80s
                    1. Oleg Bratkov Offline Oleg Bratkov
                      Oleg Bratkov (Oleg Bratkov) 20 November 2021 00: 22
                      +3
                      Unlike me, you are lying. Perhaps unconsciously, using false American sources, or perhaps knowingly, you are receiving some kind of grant for this. Are you really making money on nonsense?
                      Multi-megaton nuclear charges weigh several tons, somewhere about a megaton per ton then it was. Intercontinental missiles, capable of delivering 10 ... 20 tons to another continent, with a slight modification, can put a manned satellite, a ship, into orbit. Now you need to turn on your brain, and compare with this the fact that the Americans first got into space only in 1981, finally, and if they could not make even single launches of relatively heavy missiles, then about some hundreds of ICBMs on duty. there could be no question at all. By the way, the USSR used all the missiles that had served their duty to launch satellites into orbit, or something else like that, for example, trained its missile defense ... it is clearly more expensive, you don't even need to be a capitalist. However, you can knock your legs, wave your arms, and shout that they were on the moon, and they are the best.
                      1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 20 November 2021 17: 56
                        -2
                        Quote: Oleg Bratkov
                        Multi-megaton nuclear charges weigh several tons, somewhere about a megaton per ton then it was. Intercontinental missiles, capable of delivering 10 ... 20 tons to another continent, with a slight modification, can put a manned satellite, a ship, into orbit.

                        The Gagarin Vostok weighs 4,7 tons, the P7 could carry up to 5,4 tons of payload.

                        Quote: Oleg Bratkov
                        By the way, the USSR used all the missiles that had served their duty to launch satellites into orbit, or something else like that, for example, it trained its missile defense ...

                        The launch of satellites with the help of ICBMs was carried out only by the Russian Federation.
                      2. Fourth Offline Fourth
                        Fourth (Fourth) 20 November 2021 18: 56
                        0
                        Quote: Oleg Rambover
                        Unlike you, I'm not lying.

                        Rambover, you're lying. Quite recently, we just talked about this. And here it is again. smile
                      3. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 21 November 2021 11: 27
                        -1
                        How old are you, can it be age-related? You confused everything, we then found out that since you cannot prove that I am lying, then you are a liar. Be careful.
                      4. Fourth Offline Fourth
                        Fourth (Fourth) 21 November 2021 14: 30
                        0
                        Have you turned on the stupid one? As you wish.
                        Just understand that now there is no faith in everything you said.
                        That is why they do not believe the United States with their flights to the moon. Lied.
                      5. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 21 November 2021 17: 21
                        -2
                        Well, you don't need to turn it on. Belief in a lunar conspiracy says a lot.
                      6. Fourth Offline Fourth
                        Fourth (Fourth) 21 November 2021 17: 53
                        +1
                        It is an indisputable fact that a large percentage of the world's population does not believe the American success in conquering the moon. You can only argue about the percentage, more or less.
                        I heard that our cosmonauts do not have one opinion on this issue, even though they are military people.

                        And again you tried to lie to me, I did not tell you my opinion about American flights to the moon.
                      7. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 22 November 2021 15: 15
                        -1
                        Quote: Fourth
                        It is an indisputable fact that a large percentage of the world's population does not believe the American success in conquering the moon.

                        Not a small percentage of people believe that the earth is flat, that Gagarin did not fly into space, that the sun revolves around the earth, in telegony, in geopolitics, and God knows what else. Are the Americans to blame for this too?
                        Do Americans lie more than, say, Russians? Have you seen the statistics? Or do you just believe in it?

                        Quote: Fourth
                        I heard that our cosmonauts do not have one opinion on this issue, even though they are military people.

                        That's exactly what we heard. But you will not be able to provide more than one statement of Soviet cosmonauts (even though the military, at least not) that the Americans did not fly to the moon.
                        https://www.kp.ru/daily/26472/3342523/

                        Quote: Fourth
                        And again you tried to lie to me, I did not tell you my opinion about American flights to the moon.

                        You do not express your opinion at all. You again unfoundedly accused me of lying

                        Quote: Fourth
                        Rambover, you're lying. Quite recently, we just talked about this. And here it is again.

                        And now pretend to be innocence, like and what for me.
                      8. Fourth Offline Fourth
                        Fourth (Fourth) 22 November 2021 17: 39
                        0
                        To be honest, I'm already tired of hearing about past flights to the US moon. Today, unlike yesterday, the US has questions, but can they still? Or is it already? Or never at all?
                        Believe me, I don’t argue with you and I don’t interfere with your faith.

                        Nearly all astronauts are asked about the American visit to the moon. There are not very many categorical answers, like Leonov's. Don't drag me into your sect of believers.
                      9. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 22 November 2021 23: 49
                        -2
                        Quote: Fourth
                        To be honest, I'm already tired of hearing about past flights to the US moon.

                        Who makes you? Dear Oleg Bratkov and I had a dispute about the nuclear parity of the USSR and the United States, one of his arguments was that the Americans went into space only in 1981 and were not on the Moon. Ridiculous argument, conspiracies and all that, well, what can you do. Then you get in and tell me that you are tired of hearing about past flights to the moon. (for one thing, they were accused of lying). What kind of masochism is this? Are you tired of listening, but not tired of writing about it? What is the lie?

                        Quote: Fourth
                        Today, unlike yesterday, the US has questions, but can they still? Or is it already? Or never at all?

                        We'll find out in two or three years. The launch is scheduled for October 2024.

                        Quote: Fourth
                        Believe me, I don’t argue with you and I don’t interfere with your faith.

                        Yes, you are right, I believe. I believe in the authoritative opinion of Leonov, Savitskaya, Vinogradov, Lazutkin, Grechko. Astronomer Vladimir Surdin, Siegfridovich Vibe. Evgeny Aleksandrov, the head of the RAS commission for the fight against pseudoscience. Do you believe some kind of Bill Kaysing, who also denies the flight of Yuri Gagarin.
                        Believe in this, who is stopping you, just do not baselessly accuse the supporters of the scientific point of view of lying, it smacks of obscurantism.

                        Quote: Fourth
                        Nearly all astronauts are asked about the American visit to the moon. There are not very many categorical answers, like Leonov's. Don't drag me into your sect of believers.

                        Ok, who is pulling you in? You yourself got into this discussion.
                        And there is not one categorical answer from the astronauts that they were not there.
                      10. Fourth Offline Fourth
                        Fourth (Fourth) 23 November 2021 09: 38
                        0
                        Stop lying. You probably don't understand Russian. I did not tell you my opinion about the arrival of US citizens on the moon.
                        And you forgot about my request, why are you writing that Maria Vorontsova is the daughter of our president?
                      11. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 23 November 2021 14: 19
                        -1
                        Quote: Fourth
                        Stop lying.

                        You probably don't understand Russian. What's the lie?... Can you articulate clearly?

                        Quote: Fourth
                        You probably don't understand Russian. I did not tell you my opinion about the arrival of US citizens on the moon.

                        So tell me that you are like a known substance in the hole? With whom are you, a master of incivility? Either you accuse me unsubstantially of lying in discussing a flight to the moon, then you rant about belief in such a flight. Now opinions were not reported. So let us know that you are breaking as a damsel?

                        Quote: Fourth
                        And you forgot about my request, why are you writing that Maria Vorontsova is the daughter of our president?

                        Well, you have forgotten about my request not to accuse people of lying without proof, like some kind of slanderer and liar. But you stubbornly ignore this request.
                        Of course, I didn’t stand with a candle, but I always believe in the best in people, so I’ll ask without your dirty hints at adultery of the former wife of our president.
                      12. Fourth Offline Fourth
                        Fourth (Fourth) 23 November 2021 16: 44
                        0
                        Your faith explains a lot; you only see evidence that does not contradict your faith.
                        But just in case, suddenly a miracle happens! Your words:

                        ... there is no need to accuse the supporters of the scientific point of view of lying without evidence ...

                        - it is not true! (can be evidence at the same time)

                        I do not accuse the advocates of the scientific point of view of anything like that. I decided to ignore even your free treatment of "scientific" terms (postulate, theorem). smile Amen!
                      13. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 23 November 2021 18: 22
                        -1
                        Yes, Yoshkin's cat! Did your opinions fly or not?
                        Your first comment on this thread:

                        Quote: Fourth
                        Rambover, you're lying. Quite recently, we just talked about this. And here it is again.

                        What is the lie. Or are you a liar and a slanderer?

                        Quote: Fourth
                        Your faith explains a lot; you only see evidence that does not contradict your faith.

                        So you have not given more than one proof to the contrary. For some reason, my comment was cut again, there was a quote from RIO-Novosti. Among scholars, the question was or were not worth it.

                        Quote: Fourth
                        - it is not true!

                        How is it not true, I am a supporter of the scientific point of view, you accused me of lying.

                        Quote: Fourth
                        I decided to ignore even your free treatment of "scientific" terms (postulate, theorem).

                        What a nightmare, even that was ignored, so what?
                      14. isofat Offline isofat
                        isofat (isofat) 23 November 2021 19: 39
                        0
                        I am wildly sorry for my interference!


                        ... if there is no charge, then you lied. Admit it, has the unclean beguiled you? Something people often began to take offense at you. love

                        PS Olezhek, where are the accusations of the learned fraternity? At least some. laughing
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  • VIa70286887 Offline VIa70286887
    VIa70286887 (Vladimir Bobkov) 11 November 2021 12: 48
    +2
    Every resident of the United States is a sinner and when leaving goes not to Paradise, but to the cauldrons for eternity, tk. on Earth, they showed themselves to be murderers.
    1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 11 November 2021 18: 56
      -3
      Straight everyone?
      1. isofat Offline isofat
        isofat (isofat) 11 November 2021 20: 45
        -4
        Oleg, this is God's work. God will figure it out. I heard that there are no sinless people.
      2. Oleg Bratkov Offline Oleg Bratkov
        Oleg Bratkov (Oleg Bratkov) 14 November 2021 12: 40
        +2
        Every American, [censored], [censored], [censored], bandit and robber. Each!
        1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
          Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 14 November 2021 14: 35
          -3
          You just got out of luck and you only dealt with bandits and robbers. Those three, with whom I spoke, practically did not differ from the Russians.
          1. Oleg Bratkov Offline Oleg Bratkov
            Oleg Bratkov (Oleg Bratkov) 14 November 2021 20: 47
            +2
            Russian slaves were not imported to Russia from Africa. Russians around the world did not unleash wars, and vice versa, American troops were on Russian territory, the Americans helped Hitler to attack the USSR, and these are American bases all over the world stuck, at least 1000 military bases with a "population" of more than 1000 Americans, and how many small subdivisions, finally can not be counted. A vile, rotten, aggressive nation living by robbery and plunder. Yes, by the way, with legalized corruption. If you want some law for yourself, pay a few senators, and they create such a law. Lobbying of interests is called, everything is clean according to the law. Yes, there are many different people in Russia, and you are apparently one of those who look like Americans.
            1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
              Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) 14 November 2021 21: 36
              -2
              Quote: Oleg Bratkov
              Russian slaves were not imported to Russia from Africa.

              Of course, why import them, if they turned their compatriots into slavery in Russia.

              Quote: Oleg Bratkov
              Russians around the world have not unleashed wars,

              Of course, a sea power and a land power. Russia unleashed wars along its borders. How do you think it happened that Russia became the largest country in the world?

              Quote: Oleg Bratkov
              American troops were on Russian territory,

              At the invitation of the legitimate, from their point of view, white government?

              Quote: Oleg Bratkov
              the Americans helped Hitler to attack the USSR,

              Well, this is something from the field of alternative history.

              Quote: Oleg Bratkov
              American bases all over the world are stuck, at least 1000 military bases with a "population" of more than 1000 Americans, and how many small units you can not count.

              You envy, envy in silence.

              Quote: Oleg Bratkov
              A vile, rotten, aggressive nation living by robbery and plunder.

              The Nazis, word for word, said so about the Jews. Remember, there are no bad nations (otherwise you profess Nazism), there are only bad individuals. And you have no proof that Americans are on average worse than the average Russians.

              Quote: Oleg Bratkov
              Yes, by the way, with legalized corruption. If you want some law for yourself, pay a few senators, and they create such a law. Lobbying of interests is called, everything is clean according to the law.

              About May, firstly, this is by and large nonsense, and secondly, what?

              Quote: Oleg Bratkov
              Yes, there are many different people in Russia, and you are, apparently, one of those who look like Americans.

              Judging by the imperceptible signs, I'm better than you. For example, I don’t ascribe, like the Nazis, negative properties to the representatives of an entire nation just because they belong to that nation.
  • Oleg Bratkov Offline Oleg Bratkov
    Oleg Bratkov (Oleg Bratkov) 14 November 2021 12: 38
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    For some reason, neither the authorities of the USSR, nor the authorities of Russia, do not voice the main reason for the introduction of Soviet troops into Afghanistan. In Germany and Turkey, Pershing-2 medium-range missiles were deployed, which had flight correction in the final section of the trajectory according to the radar map of the terrain, and posed a serious threat to the western regions of the USSR. The US was going to deploy these missiles in Afghanistan. From the high-altitude plateaus, 2.5 kilometers above sea level, "Pershing" flew in a few minutes to all the central and southern industrial and military facilities of the USSR. It was with the aim of blocking such actions by America that the USSR removed the current government of Afghanistan and brought in troops. As soon as Gorbachev and Reagan signed an agreement on the mutual destruction of medium-range missiles, the withdrawal of Soviet troops from Afghanistan began two months later, they fully completed their task. By the way, having tasted the Americans, in Afghanistan, Soviet soldiers are fondly remembered. The USSR built hospitals, schools ... And you already know everything about the Americans.
    1. Oleg Bratkov Offline Oleg Bratkov
      Oleg Bratkov (Oleg Bratkov) 14 November 2021 12: 45
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      The treaty on the destruction of medium-range missiles was directed against the USSR, and hit the USSR's defenses in the first and all subsequent stages. Because sea-based cruise missiles were not included in the treaty, and the United States had a lot of them, while the USSR had very few and short range. Therefore, the enemy of the Soviet Union, Gorbachev, signed this treaty. At the same time, against the background of the withdrawal of American sea-based missiles from the treaty, the Oka tactical missile complexes were destroyed, which were not medium-range missiles, but the Americans did not like.
  • Oleg Bratkov Offline Oleg Bratkov
    Oleg Bratkov (Oleg Bratkov) 22 November 2021 21: 30
    +1
    Quote: Oleg Rambover
    ...
    The Gagarin Vostok weighs 4,7 tons, the P7 could carry up to 5,4 tons of payload.
    ...
    The launch of satellites with the help of ICBMs was carried out only by the Russian Federation.

    That's right, the warhead, which is supposed to fly to the United States, does not need to be put into orbit, it weighed a little more. And less mass was put into orbit.
    The launching of satellites with the help of ICBMs was done by the USSR, from the very beginning. Because the United States did not have ICBMs capable of delivering nuclear warheads to the territory of the USSR, and therefore the United States did not have any technical ability to use the old missiles with benefit, they were cut down because they were worthless crap.
    But the leadership of the USSR knew everything perfectly well, but was going to become capitalists, with the help of the Americans, and if you look out the window, you will notice that everything worked out for them!
  • Oleg Bratkov Offline Oleg Bratkov
    Oleg Bratkov (Oleg Bratkov) 22 November 2021 21: 44
    +3
    Quote: Oleg Rambover
    Quote: Oleg Bratkov
    American troops were on Russian territory,

    At the invitation of the legitimate, from their point of view, white government?
    ...
    About May, firstly, this is by and large nonsense, and secondly, what?

    You are making a mistake, like the last one ... Nobody invited the Americans, they themselves pinned themselves to plunder the Far East.
    Why are you writing continuous nonsense, not relying on historical data and facts? It has been said slander something, let it stick ?
    Typical Anglo-Saxon approach, you can't even figure out how you are being manipulated. Kslati, about the "alternative history". Do you know why Hitler annexed Austria, united the Germans ... And Switzerland remained so girlishly neutral? Well, here it is neutral, and that's it. Poland was not even allowed to vyaknut, France was not asked, and Switzerland ... neutral ...?
    Damn, turn on your brains, dig into the history. Financing for Germany went through Swiss banks, the US, by the way, financed it. For example, the Opel concern was donated to Hitler by the Americans. And after the failure of the German company, the Americans took the assets back. Lend-Lease, one of its faces. Everything according to his points, the war is over, or return the goods, or pay the cost. Post-war Germany could not pay the cost of the Opel, and it was returned to the Americans. And this is not your crazy alternative, take pills, this is the real politics of the present world.