Is Russia leaving the Normandy format?


The significant changes that have recently been taking place in relations between Moscow and Kiev seem to have reached the stage at which the accumulated mass of fundamental contradictions may well be considered “critical”. That is, sufficient, if not for an "explosion", then for a very radical revision by our country of its tactics and strategy in this direction. One of the arguments that quite convincingly testifies in favor of just such an assumption can be considered the very harsh statements of representatives of the Russian Foreign Ministry about the prospects for continuing negotiations in the "Normandy format".


Let's be frank - for a long time this platform was used both by Kiev and Moscow, and by representatives of Europe in the person of Germany and France to create a kind of decent appearance of a "peaceful settlement" of the armed conflict that has been going on in eastern Ukraine since 2014. The almost complete futility of these summits became clear to everyone for a long time - however, the "high negotiating parties" continued to pretend that they were at least agreeing on something. Now, to all appearances, the fairly protracted foreign policy farce is coming to an end. Let's try to figure out why this is happening and why right now.

Moscow is tired of "empty chores"


As a matter of fact, a number of official statements made in the diplomatic department of our country can be considered the final and non-appealable verdict of "Normandy". Yes, they were provoked both by the demarches of the Ukrainian side and, to put it mildly, by the inadequate behavior of other participants in the format - Paris and Berlin. However, the degree of categorical position expressed by Russia this time suggests that its patience has been completely exhausted. Thus, the official representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs Maria Zakharova described the "Normandy format" in its current state as "an empty staged event devoid of meaning." She also called the only way to fill the summit with some real essence, giving grounds for holding new meetings.

As you might guess, we are talking exclusively about the fulfillment of the entire array of obligations, promises and wonderful "protocols of intent" that were announced during the previous "get-togethers". Without this, only another profanation will come out in the “unpleasant with the useless” format, so beloved by representatives of the “non-profit” format, and our country (here, come on!) Does not have the slightest desire to participate in anything like that. There are enough real cases and problems. In fact, this speech by Zakharova was a direct and frank response to another attack by the "chief diplomat" of Kiev, Dmitry Kuleba. With the usual unsubstantiated peremptory character of the representatives of the Ukrainian foreign policy department, he recently began broadcasting about "attempts to slow down" and even completely "undermine" the "Normandy process", proceeding, of course, exclusively from Moscow.

The Ukrainian minister had in mind the position formulated literally the day before by his Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov. At the end of last month, speaking on television, he stressed that he sees the point not in "holding the event" as such, but, again, "in filling it with concrete, constructive content." For this, according to Mr. Lavrov, the relevant proposals on the format and agenda of the future summit were sent not even to Kiev (and with whom to negotiate there ?!), but to Berlin and Paris. However, as it became known the day before, such a serious approach of our country did not evoke the slightest understanding and support from the Western "partners". In the responses Moscow received from them, nothing was found except for a peculiar set of vague and useless declarations in the style of “for all good versus all bad”.

Moreover, in this case, they turned out to be flavored with some new "motives" that were categorically unacceptable for our country. Germany and France suddenly began to "sing along" to Kiev, calling Russia "one of the parties to the conflict in the Donbass" and, moreover, demanding that it "do something" about it. This approach in itself leads the situation to a final dead end and makes any negotiations highly meaningless. That is why Sergei Lavrov said about the "impossibility" of the next meeting in the "Normandy format", which the representatives of France proposed to be held in Paris on November 11 almost in a "firefighting order". There is nothing to talk about ...

"The wind blows" from across the ocean?


There is every reason to suppose that the sharp "change of shoes" between the Germans and the French, and the suddenly sharply intensified insolence of the "non-profit" have the same basis. Washington began to actively intervene in the "Ukrainian question" in general and the Donbass issue in particular. As a matter of fact, this is not an assumption at all, but a firm, almost one hundred percent certainty. The same Dmitry Kuleba probably not without a triumphant air began to talk about some kind of "clear signal" that Ukraine and the United States, who have taken up a united front, will certainly "send Moscow", and in the very near future. You will see what “powerful partners and allies” we have, and you’ll know how to “behave aggressively”! All this verbal rubbish, alas, has a very definite practical meaning. After all, Kuleba is spreading it around the upcoming (and, apparently, really soon) signing by Kiev and Washington of the "strategic partnership charter" in a certain updated edition.

It is clear that this document is unlikely to correspond to the bright hopes of the “non-leveraged” one. Neither billions of dollars "for the war," nor the supply of weapons of a class higher than the Javelin anti-tank systems or decommissioned patrol boats will wait there. And, even more so, they will not receive the main thing that they so long for - clear security guarantees, which signify the readiness of the United States to enter into a direct armed confrontation with Russia "if something happens." Nevertheless, one cannot but admit something else - Washington's position on the Ukrainian-Russian confrontation, which recently looked more or less restrained, began to change before our very eyes in just a matter of days and weeks. And certainly not for the better.

If we put together the different parts of a not so complicated “puzzle”, it becomes clear - overseas, for some reason, they decided that it was time to play the “Ukrainian card” once again, raising the stakes. A fake story about the "concentration of Russian troops on the Ukrainian border", first replicated by the leading American media, and then zealously picked up by representatives of the local administration, and of a fairly high level. A visit to Moscow by CIA Director William Burns (as well as his telephone conversation with Vladimir Putin), during which "serious warnings and warnings were allegedly expressed regarding possible aggressive actions of the Russian side against Kiev." A frank "assault" on the European colleagues of the US State Department, which began to "broadcast" through its channels some "warnings about a possible escalation in the East of Ukraine", and, first of all, "urgent advice" addressed directly to Germany regarding the use of the Nord Stream 2 certification process "As a weapon for direct blackmail of Moscow ...

All this looks like links in one chain, part of some plan, which is clearly not being implemented with the aim of improving US-Russian relations. And now - its quite natural development: as it became known the day before, the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee made an official statement, which refers to the introduction of an initiative to this legislature regarding the introduction of full-scale sanctions against Nord Stream 2 AG, which is the operator of the upcoming into operation of the gas pipeline.

One gets the impression that after a very short and even, rather, a fleeting period of barely perceptible "thaw", relations between Washington and Moscow are "returning to square one" - that is, to an openly confrontational format, within which any attempts to find a common language are doomed to failure initially. Does it make sense in this case to continue the senseless attempts at a "peaceful settlement" in the Donbass, which neither Ukraine nor, most importantly, the United States want? This issue is gaining particular relevance in the context of Kiev's actions, which has recently been making more and more demonstrative steps towards the escalation of the armed confrontation. The story of Bayraktar, the atrocities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the “gray zone”, the appointment to the defense department of not just completely obvious “hawks” and supporters of an exclusively forceful scenario of “de-occupation” of the region, but the most odious of them. What other proofs and reasons for reflection are needed here? Continuing to play the "Norman" performance imposed by the West, which has already turned into an outright clownery, our country to a certain extent legitimizes Kiev's lies about allegedly undertaking "attempts to resolve the situation" which, in fact, do not exist and have never been in reality.

As a matter of fact, the positions of the parties were voiced clearly and clearly, and at the highest level. Statements by the press secretary of Vladimir Zelensky Sergei Nikiforov that "the continuation of the" Normandy format "and, above all, its"политическая agenda "are now" under a big question ", and the words of the press secretary of Russian President Vladimir Putin Dmitry Peskov regarding" doing homework "and" creating at least some foundation for dialogue "necessary for the resumption of negotiations, sounded very much in unison ... Ukraine does not need a real peace process, and Russia does not need an imitation of it, serving as a cover for the implementation of Kiev's intentions, which are fundamentally different from those that it declares to its Western "partners."

Rejection of the "Normandy format" will definitely not contribute to the strengthening of security. However, it will at least be more honest. In any case, this path did not lead to the end of the period of "timelessness" that had lasted for many years for the residents of Donbass. By and large, he did not lead anywhere at all, but was a meaningless movement in a circle. Perhaps, by interrupting it, the parties will nevertheless move towards a real way out of this situation.
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  1. kriten Offline kriten
    kriten (Vladimir) 10 November 2021 09: 39
    +2
    I can't believe it. The Normandy format was a cover for Russia's betrayal of the Donetsk republics by the Minsk agreements. Residents of Donbass, thanks to him, can be killed with impunity, but this was justified by the fact that he had to look good in front of Germany and France. Only they and the entire collective West failed to convince that Kiev was wrong. But to convince that only Russia is to blame has turned out. A completely useless policy, which showed the inability of the Kremlin to adequately assess the situation at that time.
    1. assault 2019 Offline assault 2019
      assault 2019 (assault 2019) 11 November 2021 23: 21
      +1
      The entire policy of Russia towards Ukraine over the past 30 years can be called mediocre and treacherous towards and towards the interests of Russia and the Russian-speaking population of Ukraine.
    2. khyum Offline khyum
      khyum (hyum) 3 February 2022 23: 52
      0
      Keep in mind that politics is not a mind game with the aim of increasing the amount of freedom, but a deadly intrigue in which your place is according to plan in the cemetery.

      The law of conservation of the amount of freedom.
      I also remember that lame Timur used to say that there are only two pounds of mind in the whole world. Funny, isn't it?
  2. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 10 November 2021 10: 05
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    Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova described the "Normandy format" in its current state as "an empty staged event devoid of meaning"

    How long it takes to get them! Got it. What's next? There is not enough "gateway" to think and act faster!
    1. Vadim Shestakov Offline Vadim Shestakov
      Vadim Shestakov (Vadim Shestakov) 10 November 2021 18: 47
      0
      This is diplomacy and most importantly people are at stake, haste is needed elsewhere. First diplomacy, and then the army, but let's wait,
      1. Dmitry Suslov Offline Dmitry Suslov
        Dmitry Suslov (Dmitry Suslov) 18 November 2021 16: 26
        0
        You can't rush, but it's stupid to be late! Everything has its time! And the time has come to act tough!
        1. kriten Offline kriten
          kriten (Vladimir) 22 November 2021 16: 09
          0
          The time has come, only there is no one to act.
  3. sH, arK Offline sH, arK
    sH, arK 10 November 2021 11: 28
    +1
    It is logical that when the agreements of one of the parties, Ukraine, are not respected, either additional measures are required to change the situation, or everything remains "as is." I think this option is the simplest, although perhaps not the best.
  4. Mihail55 Offline Mihail55
    Mihail55 (Michael) 10 November 2021 12: 03
    +6
    It's time to stop hoping that Ukraine will change. A lot of water has flown under the bridge. It is necessary to recognize the independence of the LDNR, i.e. most of them have Russian citizenship there. Extra sanctions will not ruin us. Moreover ... winter is on the nose winked Live with wolves, howl like a wolf! Everyone wants to go to a warm bed ...
    1. zenion Offline zenion
      zenion (zinovy) 10 November 2021 19: 37
      -1
      If your money was in your three-liter jar, you would not think. But, when the money is in a bank for three seas and such that it can be covered, then the rest does not care, the most important thing is pennies.
      1. Rusa Offline Rusa
        Rusa 11 November 2021 16: 11
        +1
        Nobody nouveau riches and oligarchs of the Russian Federation forced to stir money in banks "across the three seas." The common people of Russia survive as best they can, they do not care about their problems.
      2. Dmitry Suslov Offline Dmitry Suslov
        Dmitry Suslov (Dmitry Suslov) 18 November 2021 16: 24
        0
        Here Yanukovych surrendered his country so that he would be left with his contributions!
    2. Dmitry Suslov Offline Dmitry Suslov
      Dmitry Suslov (Dmitry Suslov) 18 November 2021 16: 22
      0
      The LDNR had to be recognized right away, together with Crimea, as well as South Ossetia and Transnistria ... It is better to get it once for everything than to get it many times for everything separately. and they will become cold!
  5. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 10 November 2021 13: 27
    +8
    Germany and France suddenly began to "sing along" to Kiev, calling Russia "one of the parties to the conflict in the Donbass" and, moreover, demanding that it "do something" about it.

    Germany and France are themselves building NATO bases in Ukraine, like NATO countries. Therefore, they are the ones who do not fulfill the Minsk agreements. If they had disagreed, they would have left NATO.
    1. Igor Berg Offline Igor Berg
      Igor Berg (Igor Berg) 11 November 2021 08: 30
      -3
      Maybe their conscience finally woke up, especially since elections are coming soon in France, and they decided to tell the truth. It's ridiculous already, for so many years the country, with direct participation and military intervention in a neighboring country, with again direct participation, the LPR-DPR were created, which has been supplying these unrecognized "republics" with both personnel and "voluntary" military personnel all these years , a bunch of weapons, ammunition, fuels and lubricants, etc. not considered a party to the conflict. I would say even more, the main and only support for this conflict.
      1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
        Bulanov (Vladimir) 11 November 2021 08: 54
        +3
        I will tell you, Berg, even more: - Russia supported these lands back in the 17th century, under Bohdan Khmelnitsky, putting pressure on Poland. - "It's ridiculous already, for so many years the country, with direct participation and military intervention in a neighboring country, with again direct participation, was created Little Russia", which then suddenly turned into Ukraine.
        1. Igor Berg Offline Igor Berg
          Igor Berg (Igor Berg) 12 November 2021 06: 09
          -2
          Everything in this world changes, is reborn and a new one appears. It was and it will be. The world history of many thousands of years is an example of this. Not a single empire has succeeded, and it will not be possible to be eternal.
          1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
            Bulanov (Vladimir) 16 November 2021 10: 47
            +1
            The Chinese Empire has existed since 221 BC. NS.
            1. Dmitry Suslov Offline Dmitry Suslov
              Dmitry Suslov (Dmitry Suslov) 18 November 2021 16: 16
              0
              China exists, and empires on its territory were born and died periodically!
        2. Dubravvushkin Offline Dubravvushkin
          Dubravvushkin (Dubravushkin Zhuk) 10 January 2022 00: 46
          0
          Boy, learn the materiel ......!!!!
  6. Mihail55 Offline Mihail55
    Mihail55 (Michael) 11 November 2021 11: 32
    +2
    Quote: Bulanov
    Russia supported these lands back in the 17th century

    Good afternoon, Vladimir! But are these lands already IX century. were strangers to us ??? The great words of Nestor about the RUSSIAN land have been forgotten by ungrateful descendants ???
    1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
      Bulanov (Vladimir) 16 November 2021 10: 46
      +2
      Good afternoon, Mikhail! These lands were squeezed for a long time by Poland from the Russian state, but then they returned home. Perhaps this will happen in the near future.

      Russians are mercury, ”Bismarck said, implying a special property of mercury drops to attract each other. According to him, Russia cannot be divided by any means. It has stood for 1000 years and will last as long.
  7. Dmitry Suslov Offline Dmitry Suslov
    Dmitry Suslov (Dmitry Suslov) 18 November 2021 16: 13
    0
    You can chat and drink tea at home without spending money on flights and so on. This, if I may say so, the format was originally dead-born and rotted long ago! So there is nothing to babysit with a corpse!
  8. Dubravvushkin Offline Dubravvushkin
    Dubravvushkin (Dubravushkin Zhuk) 10 January 2022 01: 00
    0
    You read the comments and involuntarily come to the only thought: what kind of brotherhood could you talk about, and even more so after 2014. Putin and his gang proved 1000 times, it was they that Bandera was right because until 2014. even in the western part of Ukraine they forgot about it, not to mention the rest of it. But Putin recalled Bandera's slogans and what had been between our peoples for centuries at the household level, the Kremlin's bandit power elevated to the official rank of policy towards the people of Ukrina with the help of corrupt media. Members of the forum so actively support the policy of invading Ukraine, without even imagining for a moment what consequences will arise. This is for you, gentlemen, not Chechnya and not Afghanistan. The people of Ukraine fought all their history and did not bow to anyone, for which even Catherine II issued a decree on rewarding the Zaporizhzhya Sich with the lands of the Kuban and the old-timers still keep this letter .... for courage, bravery and loyalty to the Fatherland, and then, when the people of Ukraine rebelled against the gentry and the Jews, I emphasize, not against the power of Russia, but against their direct oppressors, the Sich was destroyed, and the leaders were handed over to the gentry to be torn to pieces. So Bogdan Khmelnitsky was right or not, and Putin proved to all the people of Ukraine that Bandera was right.
  9. khyum Offline khyum
    khyum (hyum) 3 February 2022 23: 57
    0
    Russia kicked its favorite partner in the balls. It awakened the beast that never slumbered in him. Knowing that Russia was not going to attack Ukraine, the West began to howl about the impending attack. And on every corner it is flapping its wings about this attack... The information machine has been launched to its fullest and is successfully slaughtering the remnants of the brain in the mass consciousness of its citizens. Soon everything will calm down and the West, all in white, will trumpet the victory over bloodthirsty Russia. So what? A noticeable part of the earthlings will believe in it, and the most unpleasant thing is that they will believe in it and our 5th column will enthusiastically suck it up.
    And this is the only correct explanation of what is happening. Unpleasant, but true.
    No need to play along with the fifth column .... As for Putin's political public receptions, then, in my opinion, this is such a political sur. With his help, Putin is trying to ease the pressure from the whites and reds on the main core of the peoples of Russia, since it is in the middle of the meanings of life and supports Putin, which is also obvious. The so-called whites are still in a state of euphoria from the suicide of the USSR, and the red ones cannot come to their senses, this is their misfortune - by the way, they do not believe and do not understand their guilt in the death of the USSR. We live in a transitional period and we need horse patience ...