"Abandoned" hectare: Why is it better to give land to Russians, not Uzbeks

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One of the most important topics of recent days can rightfully be considered the information that Russia is ready to lease 1 million hectares of agricultural land to Uzbekistan on a long-term basis. Unfortunately, the domestic press did not pay enough attention to it, so now we will try to correct this omission.

The Russian Ministry of Agriculture is reportedly discussing a possible agreement to lease 35 hectares of arable land to Uzbekistan for subsequent export. In the future, the area of ​​leased land may increase to 1 million hectares. For comparison, in 2015, the PRC wanted to lease 49 thousand hectares of agricultural land in the Russian Far East for 115 years. It turns out that Tashkent can bypass even Beijing with its famous appetites.



In the domestic media, this information is presented with restrained optimism. There are some expert opinions that Uzbekistan is not dangerous to Russia, unlike China, our federal budget will receive "huge revenues" from land lease, and these lands themselves will be saved by the Uzbeks from desolation. Reading this, one is inevitably amazed at the flight of imagination. It's amazing how you can turn everything upside down. Let's take a look at all these extremely dubious arguments and try to find a grain of truth, if it is, of course, possible.

Agricultural outsourcing


As you know, the agriculture of this independent Central Asian republic is critically dependent on irrigation. The hot dry climate and water scarcity leave it possible to grow something in the flat part of the country only by irrigation. Due to the growing population, Tashkent is forced to reduce the area occupied by cotton in favor of arable land. Uzbekistan is in dire need of grain, vegetables and other agricultural products in large quantities. Instead of investing in irrigation infrastructure and switching to growing new crops that require less irrigation, the republic's authorities want to take the simpler route and move production to Russia, so to speak, to outsourcing.

In general, they can be understood. Now tell me, dear readers, what do you see in this whole situation?

That's right, we have a guaranteed market for agricultural products. A natural question arises, why, in fact, it is necessary to give Russian lands to Uzbeks so that they grow grain and other crops in our country, exporting them for their own consumption, if these same lands can be cultivated by Russian farmers, supplying food for export to Uzbekistan? Why is it necessary to transfer some abandoned land to a foreign state on a long-term lease?

Is this "our" land?


The second question that I would like to discuss will be even more delicate. It is customary for us to be terribly afraid of Chinese expansion and the gradual absorption of Russia by the Celestial Empire. In neighboring Kazakhstan, people threw themselves out into the streets en masse when they learned that the country's authorities intend to lease their agricultural lands to the PRC on a long-term basis. Ordinary people expressed concern that the Chinese would settle down and would not leave after the lease expired. But why are such concerns not expressed about immigrants from Central Asia?

Let's just say that the author of the lines is a supporter of the idea of ​​friendship of peoples and has nothing against citizens of other countries. Moreover, he sympathizes with the difficult conditions in which the so-called migrant workers from Tajikistan or Uzbekistan are forced to work in Russia. In the context of globalization, labor migration is the norm, whether someone likes it or not. But it's one thing when people arrived, worked and left home with the money. It's another matter when they decide to stay, and even bring all their numerous relatives with them. By and large, this is also their right, but then the local population and regional authorities may have a problem with the socialization of people from a completely different cultural environment. Everyone has heard of what excesses sometimes happen. In the USSR there was at one time the Ministry of Nationalities, in the Russian Federation for some reason it does not exist, which means that everything was left to chance.

Reportedly, land in the Chelyabinsk, Orenburg and Omsk regions may be transferred to Uzbekistan for a long-term lease, and in total 23 Russian regions have shown interest. The question arises, who will work on these lands? Will Tashkent create new jobs for Russians? Or will the Uzbeks themselves grow the crops? The latter assumption is probably true. It turns out that by their decision to surrender 1 million hectares to Uzbekistan for 49 years, our authorities, so to speak, will secure labor migrants on the ground, on Russian soil. Why spend money and leave if you can stay, and even for an indefinitely long time?

Is it really incomprehensible that the Ministry of Agriculture, with its own hands, is planting a “time bomb” under interethnic relations in regions bordering, by the way, with Kazakhstan?

"Abandoned" hectare


The suggestions that foreign farmers will save the so-called abandoned lands are also striking in their cynicism. What is this, by the way? No man's land? Are there still such people? Or is it the land that someone once "grabbed", and now does not use for their intended purpose? In the latter case, then the state must return them to its property through the courts. However, back to the main topic. By the way, where did you get such confidence that the newcomers would turn out to be zealous owners? Wouldn't it turn out in practice that Uzbek farmers will do Chinese-style farming, filling the land with pesticides and other active chemicals? Experts are crying about unused lands, but why not give them to the Chinese and Uzbeks, but to the Russians?

The program of the "Far Eastern hectare" is causing some irritation with its regular absurdity. For some reason, it is believed that people should break away from their homes, move to the other end of the country and start building and farming in an open field. By the way, how profitable is it in general - to invest in 1 hectare? Much more sensible is the idea of ​​distributing land to everyone in the regions where they live.

Do you live, for example, in the Chelyabinsk region and are you ready to try your hand at being a farmer? So let the state provide free land, and not 1 hectare, but a much larger plot, for free use for several years with the condition of its intended use. So, you see, the land will not be abandoned, and new farms will appear, possibly, in the future, they will be enlarged due to the merger into agricultural cooperatives. And Uzbekistan will have something to sell, and Russian people will treat their land with respect.

And we have turned everything upside down!
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  1. +6
    11 October 2021 13: 51
    Absolutely spelled correctly. And the impudence of the government is that this issue has already been resolved and it was voiced only after the elections. Likewise, Putin apparently wanted to resolve the issue with the Kuriles - on the sly, but the people rose up. Therefore, even now it is impossible to be silent. We raise taxes on garden plots and raise "paws" on grown products, and even try to stammer on fertile lands. You will go broke on one diesel engine. And the land is idle because the government does not want to deal with this issue. They would not do anything and receive money! I leased it, money in my pocket and the grass does not grow. And let the other generation rake the problems!
    1. 0
      13 October 2021 08: 04
      Everything is correct! I would only like to see the person who suggested it.
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  3. +2
    11 October 2021 14: 18
    "Abandoned" hectare: Why is it better to give land to Russians, not Uzbeks

    - The author of the article is my plus ...
    - We have already discussed this topic ...
    - Everything is so strange that because of the very absurdity of this undertaking ... - to conclude an agreement; bring Uzbeks to Russia and

    lease to Uzbekistan 35 hectares of arable land for the subsequent export of crops. In the future, the area of ​​leased land may increase to 1 million hectares.

    - everything looks just absurd ...
    - First of all ... - but the Uzbeks themselves will go to Russia to work in the field of grain cultivation ??? - Or they will go with their families in order to take advantage of the "lifting" (money) and all kinds of preferences provided to them by Russia ... - They will be given citizenship, they will build housing, they will build polyclinics; the wives of these newcomers will be provided with Russian maternity capital ... - and traditional Uzbek families are very large (10-12 children in a family is not uncommon) ... and Uzbek wives (most) will not work ... - And our large families the state will pay cash benefits, provide them with medical care; build for them and provide them with multi-room housing; to build schools for Uzbek children, because Uzbeks may demand that the school curriculum be taught in the Uzbek language and may even demand, at the Russian state expense, to build mosques for them ... - and so on and so on ...
    - And Russia will be obliged to supply these "grain growers" with agricultural machinery, fuels and lubricants, repair bases, spare parts, etc. and so on ... - And the majority of those who arrived may not want to plow the land and sow grain later ... - They will live, "adapt" ... - put down roots and go to Russian cities - to trade ... - their relatives from Uzbekistan will bring fruit for sale; and they themselves will open shops, bazaars, trade outlets, they will trade in shawarma; cakes, tandoor bread and so on to sell ... - Like this ...
    - This is all - it will cost Russia such a "pretty penny" that it will not seem a little ...
    - Isn't it easier ... - Russia is to buy grain from Canada and ... and ... and supply it to the Uzbeks ... - since such "concern" about Uzbekistan suddenly overwhelmed Russia ???
    - Or to supply your own "Russian wheat" to Uzbekistan ... - to take Uzbekistan "for subsidies" ...
  4. 0
    11 October 2021 14: 23
    The results of the work of the authorities for 20 years. Make ends meet.
  5. -2
    11 October 2021 14: 27
    Free distribution of something is not perceived as a value, and if it is, it is perceived as a means of consumption and a speculative resource.
    Land is no different from other productive forces - subsoil, tools, technology, people, which are the subject of sale and purchase and the extraction of income.
    It is difficult to cultivate the land, it is expensive and it is not a fact that the costs will pay off, and therefore it is easier to sell or lease for 99 years and have a profit from this.
  6. +2
    11 October 2021 14: 29
    Quote: Jacques Sekavar
    It is difficult to cultivate the land, it is expensive and it is not a fact that the costs will pay off, and therefore it is easier to sell or lease for 99 years and have a profit from this.

    who is easier? you do not decide for people what is easier for them
  7. -2
    11 October 2021 15: 36
    In principle, true.

    But there are some pluses for the government.
    They will pay taxes and kickbacks, but no one is going to pay a pension to the Uzbeks for sure, they will not build hospitals-schools, labor commissions - purely formally.

    Already like they wrote about it.
  8. 0
    11 October 2021 15: 48
    Someone got a good loot.

    - What do you trade friend?
    - Homeland!
  9. +3
    12 October 2021 07: 38
    I agree with the author! ... Asians will bring their Asian customs, and every Asian dreams of becoming a Bai
  10. -1
    12 October 2021 08: 33
    Yesaaaaaa! We are waiting for harsh times, winter is close and white walkers are on the way. The elections have passed, those who won them at the trough, and therefore we will continue to go the same way. The illusion of prosperity in the country and that people live happily and everything is fine with us will be created. So I look at everything that is happening with us and you are amazed at how everything is fundamentally different that bureaucrats blow in the ears of the master when they report and what actually happens. There are just two big differences.
  11. +1
    12 October 2021 09: 50
    Land in the Chelyabinsk, Orenburg and Omsk regions may be transferred to Uzbekistan,

    The climate is harsh. This is not Kuban, not Krasnodar ... Everyone knows how southerners tolerate a cold climate ... Where it is relatively warm from May to September .... And what will they do there for the rest of the months, play snowballs? To live and work there, you need to invest colossal money in infrastructure projects. The beggar of Uzbekistan does not have that kind of money…. And who said that Uzbekistan will export its products from Russia completely? Knowing the habits of our officials, these products can compete with our farmers. At one time, the USSR leased land to China. What came of it! The Chinese killed the land with various chemicals, took out all the wood, even uprooted the hemp and took it away. Until now, nothing grows there. The opinion is who is lobbying for the transfer of land to another state for rent - Criminals! Which have only their own selfish interest. Those who want to cash in on easy money ...
  12. -2
    12 October 2021 11: 24
    why not give it up? the land is empty, abandoned!
    1. 0
      13 October 2021 11: 40
      Are you starving? ... From the fact that the land will be leased .... There will be no extra grubs on your table.
      1. -1
        17 October 2021 10: 59
        in fact, you are right - every day I read how Uzbeks beat Russians in the face for any reason, and yell to go to Russia. And the cops sympathize with them. So isn't it better for Putin to set up a migration route for Russians from Central Asia to Russia? And instead of land to show the Uzbek brothers a fig with butter?
  13. +1
    12 October 2021 14: 30
    Comrades Protestants! I ask you to take a sober look at the situation in the country. We're DIE OUT! We will soon be gone at all. The country does not have the main resource - people, and those people do not want to work at all, especially in agriculture. Look, solid managers, promoters, operators, salespeople and would-be accountants, all those peasants who lived in villages have moved to cities and are now mastering conventionally new professions. The economy has changed, it has grown, it requires many times more people, and the population has shrunk.

    The land is abandoned, really abandoned, we have so many fields in the Ryazan region, many have long since turned back into a forest. Only in the last few years, thanks to the program of the current governor and the infusion of a huge amount of money, some fate has been restored for plowing. Who works there? Russians? A few, because they have not been there for a long time, left and drank themselves, died out. Although the incomes of agricultural workers now are not even very bad. Previously, these same lands could be bought for a penny and even used completely free of charge, has anyone done this? NO!

    Uzbeks are hardworking people and still Russian-speaking, many modern families teach Uzbeks in Russian schools. The country of the USSR, the common past, after all, makes itself felt. And perhaps one of the few independently developing, at the expense of the main resource of the state - people. People and only people create GDP. In order to develop these lands, every Russian, conditionally Russian, needs now to give birth to 3 children and his children must also give birth to at least 3 grandchildren, then maybe in 49 years we will have enough people to use those unfortunate hectares about which in addition, there are ten times more land that is not used. Therefore, I think that this deal cannot be regarded as harmful, personally, I see only advantages, even in the fact that some Uzbeks are assimilated in Russia. They are at least able to work, give birth and feed their children, in contrast to a very large number of Russian "Men" and "Women".
    1. 0
      12 October 2021 16: 11
      Your words are an indictment against the authorities, which have spent nearly 20 (!) Years stupidly on the "money-box".
      These men and women would be completely different now. Not to mention the fact that there would be many more.
    2. 0
      12 October 2021 17: 55
      As for "taking a sober look at the situation", then yes, it is necessary.
      There are, however, more important and urgent matters than leasing vacant land to Uzbeks.
      It might wait a bit.
      It is necessary to take a sober view of the situation with the authorities, with their inactivity.
      She owes the people who feed her
    3. -1
      13 October 2021 11: 43
      And what are you harnessing for Uzbeks or are you Uzbek?
  14. -2
    13 October 2021 09: 48
    Quote: Dust
    The climate is harsh. This is not Kuban, not Krasnodar ... Everyone knows how southerners tolerate a cold climate ... Where it is relatively warm from May to September .... And what will they do there for the rest of the months, play snowballs? To live and work there, you need to invest colossal money in infrastructure projects. The beggar of Uzbekistan does not have that kind of money….

    I myself live in the South Urals. Don't tell me to tell you about the hellish climate and colossal money.
    By the way, in impoverished Uzbekistan the cost of living is higher than in Russia. Imagine, first-hand information, my wife flew in from there a week ago.
    1. -1
      13 October 2021 11: 49
      By the way, in impoverished Uzbekistan the cost of living is higher than in Russia.

      If they live so satisfyingly, then why do they go to Russia in droves to work? Well-fed Uzbeks do not clean up the garbage ... this is an axiom!
  15. -1
    13 October 2021 10: 14
    Quote: Marzhetsky
    Quote: Dust
    The climate is harsh. This is not Kuban, not Krasnodar ... Everyone knows how southerners tolerate a cold climate ... Where it is relatively warm from May to September .... And what will they do there for the rest of the months, play snowballs? To live and work there, you need to invest colossal money in infrastructure projects. The beggar of Uzbekistan does not have that kind of money….

    I myself live in the South Urals. Don't tell me to tell you about the hellish climate and colossal money.
    By the way, in impoverished Uzbekistan the cost of living is higher than in Russia. Imagine, first-hand information, my wife flew in from there a week ago.

    It will be necessary to announce this good news to a couple of hundred Uzbeks. In the morning I will probably announce it. While the masters give them a day of discord. Probably they will immediately quit and rush home.
  16. 0
    16 October 2021 01: 03
    And here is the clue
    Read the latest article on this channel:

    According to Politico, a delegation from the Pentagon and the US Congress will visit the Central Asian country in October. The main topic of the talks will be the deployment of American anti-terrorist forces on the territory of Uzbekistan (it was a member of the CSTO until 2012).

    https://topcor.ru/22139-v-byvshej-strane-odkb-mogut-pojavitsja-specnaz-i-udarnye-bespilotniki-ssha.html

    The really bad thing is that we are wasting our resources to fight back stupidly.
    The offensive initiative, alas, is not ours.
    And a bad example for other neighbors. Not only Uzbeks will sit on our necks like this now.
  17. 0
    16 October 2021 12: 48
    Add more.
    As I already wrote in my comments, according to the real activity and success of our foreign policy, they judge the future of Russia as a regional superpower.
    Judged by the final vector of development. Is it going up or down.
    The offensive of the West on us is as obvious as our retreat from the previous positions.
    The initiative is firmly held by our adversary. As the commanders say: "This is how wars are lost."
    Our inner circle closely monitors the direction of the vector.
    Hence the ongoing reorientation of Uzbekistan and some other countries towards the Americans.
    Trying to “buy” friendship under these conditions is wasteful and useless.
    It is necessary to “break” the situation, “break” our own upward vector.
    To impose the initiative on the enemy, at least on the model of the "Anadyr" and "Tulip" operations carried out by the USSR in 1962.
    Even if it entails considerable geopolitical risk.
    The downward vector is a 100% guarantee of the death of the country in the near future.
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  19. 0
    17 October 2021 05: 50
    God what a shame !!!! All ancestors in their graves are turned over from Putin's rule !!!!!!! He gives resources, he has lost his brotherly peoples, in his own country people are beggars and humiliated, constantly terrorized by Caucasians, instead of patrolling the streets of cities from insolent Muslims, he sent an army to distant lands well, "Ivan Vasilyevich is changing his profession", I wonder how it will all end !! ??