Why Putin arranged a gas "attraction of unprecedented generosity"


On Wednesday, October 6, the day before his birthday (October 7, the GDP turned 69, congratulations!) Putin held a big meeting on energy issues. On the agenda were issues of preparation for the winter and uninterrupted gas supply not only to the Russian Federation, but to the whole of Europe (there was nothing else for a person to do on the eve of his anniversary). All relevant ministers were present, including the heads of gas producing regions and heads of relevant departments (such as the Ministry of Energy, the Ministry of Economic Development, the Ministry of Finance, Gazprom, Transneft, Rosneft, Novatek, Surgutneftegaz, Inter RAO UES). Everything was very serious and grown-up.


Of the issues discussed, we are only interested in four. Putin drew particular attention to the preservation of the existing gas transit through the Ukrainian GTS within the scope of the volumes stipulated by the contract (at least 40 billion per year), complained about the delay in certification of the SP-2, the launch of which could relieve tension from the European gas markets, supported the proposal of the Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak to enter the gas spot market with his proposal to smooth out the rush demand for gas by participating in electronic trading on the St. Petersburg Commodity Exchange, and gave the go-ahead for the export of 10 billion cubic meters of gas from Rosneft's resources to Europe (the last proposal was made by the director of Rosneft Igor Sechin). And although Sechin did not say through which hub he was going to sell this volume, it is obvious to everyone that in this way preparations are underway for launching the SP-2 to its fullest by concession, according to the norms of the Third Energy Package, 50% of the pipe to an alternative supplier. Why is Rosneft not an alternative supplier to you? If Gazprom was going to pump 5,6 billion cubic meters of gas through one branch of the SP-2 in the period remaining before the New Year, then it will pump 10 billion cubic meters of gas along two branches simultaneously with Rosneft (another 5 billion cubic meters of Rosneft will remain even next year - the pipe is still not rubber), which partially compensates for the gas deficit in Europe of 23 billion cubic meters. Thus, Putin made a knight's move. And the next day the gas market collapsed. From 1969 USD / thous. cubes, it dropped to $ 920. A classic of the genre! Putin has amply demonstrated the power of the Kremlin's verbal interventions.

The collapse of the liberal gas market


How did it happen that enlightened Europe fell into slavish dependence on the villain-Putin? The point is that the EU currently has 144 underground gas storage facilities (UGS) with a total capacity of 108 billion cubic meters of gas. 52% of them are concentrated in Germany, Italy and France. Their filling at the moment is 75%, or about 81 billion cubic meters of gas. Over the previous cold winter of 2020-21 (4th quarter of 2020 - 1st quarter of 2021), Europe pumped out a record 69,7 billion cubic meters of gas. It would seem, why panic, if this winter is not more fierce (and the previous one was very cold), then the available gas reserves, it seems, should be enough to calmly pass the heating period. Where, then, are there so many cries, they say, save us, we freeze, don't let Putin ruin us?

The trouble is that all these 81 billion cubic meters of gas from underground gas storage facilities cannot be raised. Approximately 15% of these are so-called damper gas, a non-recoverable residue used to maintain pressure, i.e. there are only 68,85 billion active gas. You can feel the smell of fried (or, more precisely, ice cream). But this is not the worst thing. The worst thing for the EC and what European officials cannot forgive Putin is that they will raise all these saving residues and sell them to their poor population at a price ... drum roll here ... yes, you understood correctly, at a price that will be set at that moment European gas hubs. And there are no prerequisites that it will fall by that time from the word “absolutely”. Moreover, if the European Commission continues to behave the way it has behaved so far, this price will only rise. And at times! And 2000 dollars per thousand cubic meters will still seem like a fairy tale to them.

Why did this happen? Some clarification is required here. 2021 was somewhat unique. While Santa Claus, who was late in Europe until spring, devoured all the gas accumulated there during the warm coronavirus 2020 from its underground storages, Grandma Heat, who visited Southeast Asia in the summer of the same year, almost half drained its rivers, which could not but affect its hydroelectricity and force it to switch to gas, since neither wind, nor solar power plants could no longer cope with the increased demand due to the excessive consumption of electricity for refrigeration units and air conditioners operating at full capacity. Historically, Europe has been replenishing reserves in its UGS facilities in the summer, during a low price period, when gas prices fell against the backdrop of falling demand, not only in Europe, but also in Asia. And then the price of gas in Europe exceeded the similar price for it in Southeast Asia, and caravans of gas carriers rushed to Europe, filling its UGS with life-saving LNG, thereby allowing to look to the future with optimism, spitting on Gazprom. The market regulated itself. It should be understood that LNG sellers do not care about both Europe and Asia. They will transport their gas to where the price will be higher. And since Asia does not have underground storage facilities, then in the summer, when consumption decreased, the price of gas there automatically fell, which allowed Europe to charge LNG for future use, pumping it into underground gas storage facilities, offering a price higher than the Asians.

It has always been that way, but not this year. Grandfather Frost tried in winter, freeing the European underground gas storage facilities from the surplus of gas accumulated there, and Grandmother Zhara, who visited Asia, did not allow local gas prices to fall below European ones. The demand in Asia and even Latin America (in particular in Brazil) exceeded the European one, which was reflected in the local gas prices, and the caravans of LNG tankers naturally sailed for the money, bypassing Europe waiting for gas. The liberal market in all its glory. And it's stupid to blame Gazprom here - it is connected with its customers with long-term contracts, it fulfilled them this year and even exceeded it by 23%. Gazprom does not trade on the stock exchange, and it cannot supply gas to anywhere. It is not his fault that European officials did not foresee such a development of events, insisting that European countries switch to swap gas purchases, abandoning long-term contracts. Those who obeyed them were surprised to find that for some reason the low price period in Europe did not come this summer, prices continued to rise (compared to winter ones), but the supply of gas from this did not increase, because in Asia at this time the prices were even higher. The Europeans did not raise their hand to pump gas into UGS at such a price, which spurred gas quotes even more - the now half-empty UGS put pressure on them. As a result, the gas pyramid collapsed, burying the hapless Europeans beneath them.

Gas production is tricky. European officials, apparently, do not understand this. The development of deposits is carried out in difficult climatic and natural conditions - Norway develops its deposits in general on the seabed, while Russia takes them already in the Arctic and undeveloped regions of Siberia. It cannot be adjusted by turning the crane. Therefore, the Suppliers are forced to associate themselves with the Buyers with long-term contracts, which should level their risks, guaranteeing the sale of the gas they produce. The production is proceeding according to plan, plus or minus one million cubic meters back and forth. It is impossible to increase it at the click of your fingers from the word “at all”, to meet the peak demand in winter there are UGS facilities, where gas was pumped in summer. LNG suppliers were responsible for this for 90%. Maybe for European officials it will be a revelation, but all regasification terminals available on the European continent have a load of 28-35%. They stand idle for most of the year. 90% of deliveries are in the summer. And it is not Gazprom's fault that your suppliers did not come to you this summer.

A true attraction of unprecedented generosity from the Kremlin


“But why does Putin release them ?! For once, we managed to drive the enemies behind the flags and here we again let them crawl out. It is necessary to wet! " - I can already hear the screams of our regular patriots. Even such respected experts as Olga Skabeeva and Karen Shakhnazarov echo them; they also do not understand the Kremlin's generosity. Okay, with noteworthy patriots, I was always strained with my brains, but for Karen Shakhnazarov, it’s even somehow embarrassing for me to explain such common truths. What do we and Lesha Miller care about when the price for November futures on the Dutch TTF hub has jumped to the level of 1969,2 dollars per thousand cubic meters? What are we going to earn from this? A one-time deal, someone bought a lot of gas from stock speculators at such a price. At the same time, the price immediately jumped down to $ 1778 / thousand cubic meters. Speculators on a bearish diversion are testing the market. The usual exchange fuss is going on. While the bears are winning. More precisely, they won until Uncle Vova took the floor. And then the market turned around, the bulls drove the bears down - a typical bullish diversion (Putin's words served as the foundation). Stopped at 920. Wow candle! (all the terms you do not understand from technical analysis and fundamental analysis, google those who are interested). Twice fall! And it was Uncle Vova who said only a couple of words. What will happen when he goes from words to deeds ?!

Okay, out of respect for Karen Shakhnazarov, I explain the situation. Gazprom does not play on the stock exchange. In the total volume of its supplies, only 15% falls on swap sales, and 85% are long-term contracts. Thanks also to the Poles, after the lawsuit they lost in the Stockholm Arbitration and the payment of 1,5 billion in compensation, Gazprom now has a moral right (after all, there is case law in Europe, and the precedent was created in March 2020) to revise the price calculation formula for long-term contracts, unbinding it from the oil basket and pegged to gas quotes. And now, with a time lag of two months, Gazprom is smoothly raising prices for its beloved clients under their long-term contracts (in 8 months it has already crawled from $ 171 / thousand cubic meters to $ 269, and this is far from the limit, because the price has been growing for 10 months in a row) ... Nothing personal - all claims to the Poles.

Understand that stock market peaks are just a guideline for price formation, and in 2 months of lag it goes back and forth 100 times more (on commodity exchanges, especially on gas exchanges, there is very high volatility, because Gazprom was not attached to them, but what cannot be done by the decision of the court, especially the Stockholm one). For LNG traders, they (stock quotes) are a beacon to which they will drive their gas tanker caravans. For the Norwegian monopoly Equinor ASA, which accounts for 50% of sales in swaps, too (like Gazprom, it sells the remaining 50% under long-term contracts with a fixed price). And old man Miller why the hell should he bother with stock quotes? What does it matter to him? He will not get anything from this pie (or almost nothing, 15% do not warm their souls). But there is a real danger of killing the market when the unaffordable price forces the Buyer to look for alternative energy sources. And he will find them! This is exactly what all this action was aimed at.

You have not yet forgotten who is the advocate and apologist of RES (renewable energy sources) in our country? That's right, senile Joe. A senile person is not a senile person, but he knows his business. The price for gas has almost reached the price for the greenhouse gas. And here we come to the most important thing. You want to cut down the entire cash register in a year, and then what will you do? Stand on the sidelines and watch with envy as Sleepy Joe cuts coupons from his green energy, and your most smelly gas in the world spits from top to bottom, because there will be no buyers for it (we are talking about gas). You yourself will kill them all during this fattest year of yours. How many years are you going to live? If this year to the next world, then I can still understand you, and if you are going to live for another 50 years, then it is better to do it with gas, and not with wind, sun or hydrogen. This is exactly what Putin thought, breaking all the buzz for gas speculators and old Joe, proposing to start electronic gas trading on the St. Petersburg Commodity Exchange.

All who blame the Kremlin for what they did are partly right. This is exactly what Putin was counting on. And it is not his fault that he knows how to calculate his moves, but his opponents do not. They, in my opinion, do not play chess with him at all, but play cards. It's just that they were unlucky with the delivery this year. Sixes were in the buy-in. Ce la vie! Learn materiel.
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  1. Bakht Online Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 11 October 2021 08: 29
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    Is there a "gas attraction of unprecedented generosity"?

    There is case law in Europe. And according to the contracts, the gas price for Europe will increase from October 1. They talk about a price of 400-500 dollars for contracts. And ... there is another pitfall for Europeans. After all, GazProm may file a counterclaim ... This is information for 2016.

    https://ria.ru/20160414/1410435833.html
    1. kimvladimiril Offline kimvladimiril
      kimvladimiril (Vladimir) 12 October 2021 12: 49
      +1
      The question is - will Gazprom sue? Something is hard to believe. And the courts are whistling in one direction ...
      1. Bakht Online Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 12 October 2021 13: 10
        +1
        If the price is not revised, it will serve. In 2016, he filed and won. From October 2021, a new gas price to Europe. Expected to be around $ 330 per thousand cubic meters. Everything is in accordance with the European Gas Directive. And according to the new pricing model imposed on Gazprom by European officials.
  2. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker 11 October 2021 08: 40
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    Putin staged a gas ride of unprecedented generosity

    He would arrange such rides for his citizens. You would have an author, a lawyer ....... to Ephraim. You could do it.
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    2. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
      Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 11 October 2021 09: 04
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      Substitute your pocket, instead of Putin, I'll pour you a couple of cubes of gas, so be it.
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      2. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
        steelmaker 11 October 2021 12: 12
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        Framed. Enough education, or prompt?
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        2. isofat Offline isofat
          isofat (isofat) 14 October 2021 15: 39
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          Quote: steel maker
          Framed. Enough education, or prompt?

          steelmaker, keep your pocket wider. laughing
  3. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
    Just a cat (Bayun) 11 October 2021 08: 53
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    when did the host of the TV show and the "Uzbek" director become experts? also dear? one of the ratings of the show raises, and the second is promoting while sitting without work, otherwise they will completely forget. Malakhov and Malysheva are not on the list of experts by chance? laughing
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 11 October 2021 20: 41
      +3
      firstly, Shakhnazarov is not an Uzbek (Georgy Shakhnazarov - Gorbachev's advisor was Armenian, and his mother is generally Russian, but for you they are all Uzbeks), secondly, he works as the director of Mosfilm, which does not prevent him from being an intelligent person, in contrast from you
      1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
        Just a cat (Bayun) 12 October 2021 06: 56
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        and if he were the director of the circus, he would also become the president of Ukraine laughing from Kharkov it is better known ... the electorate of Waltzman and Zeltsman.
        1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
          Volkonsky (Vladimir) 12 October 2021 13: 20
          +2
          no one is interested in your opinion, you are toko and you can write in the margins of other people's texts, because you are not able to write your own
          1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
            Just a cat (Bayun) 12 October 2021 13: 20
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            who would say ... "Let Putin devour" ... your Shakhnazarov dropped the Mosfilm below nowhere. Now the movies are filmed just for the intellectual level of Ukrainians. I have more interesting things to do than scribbling in the kitchen to eat pasta for dinner.
  4. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
    Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 October 2021 09: 03
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    Quote: Bakht
    There is case law in Europe.

    From the days of law school, I remember that case law is characteristic of the Anglo-Saxon countries - Great Britain and the United States, but not continental Europe. Correct me if I am mistaken and confused something.
    1. Bakht Online Bakht
      Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 11 October 2021 10: 36
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      "Judicial precedent as a source of European Union law"

      http://www.eurasiancommission.org/ru/nae/news/Pages/30-10-2015-4.aspx
      1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
        Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 October 2021 10: 56
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        I'm afraid this is a little different

        In the works of domestic and foreign scientists, the decision of the European Court of Justice is not considered in the direct meaning of the term "judicial precedent", but is interpreted as a court decision that has a precedent nature, precedent force, an allusion to precedent law or the quality of precedent. The use of the term "judicial precedent" is associatively applied to the decision of the ECP, including, since it has a recommendatory nature when the courts or the ECP are considering similar cases. Speaking about the precedent nature of the decisions of the European Court of Justice, one should not perceive the precedent created by the ESP, as well as the case law itself arising on its basis, in the form of a variant or a kind of a kind of "classical" precedent existing in the common law system.
        1. Bakht Online Bakht
          Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 11 October 2021 11: 09
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          I'm afraid that's exactly what it is.
          The EU judicial system is still in its infancy. Case law exists there. But there is also resistance. For example, France opposes the introduction of case law. But the recent decision on Poland showed that EU decisions are more important than decisions of local courts and even the Constitution. The penalty could be expulsion from the EU.
          There is a precedent in the EU. Some countries oppose this, but this does not negate the fact of its existence.

          The very development of EU case law is constantly dependent on integration processes: the granting of rights to individual entities in accordance with the principle of direct action

          An inevitable consequence of this was that the decision of the Court of Justice of the EU, which formally does not have the status of a source of law familiar to the continental system, in the course of the progressive development of European law absorbed the features of a mandatory judicial precedent.
          1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
            Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 October 2021 11: 11
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            You are simply incompetent to talk about such topics. hi
            1. Bakht Online Bakht
              Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 11 October 2021 11: 12
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              Thanks for the compliment. I have already seen your competence ... And not only me. Doesn't shine ...

              EU courts call their own practice precedent.

              https://cyberleninka.ru/article/n/pretsedenty-suda-kak-istochnika-prava-evropeyskogo-soyuza
              1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
                Marzhecki (Sergei) 11 October 2021 11: 25
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                You see, the precedent is a holdover. Because of this rudiment, lawyers apply to modern relations the decisions of the courts of past centuries, when social relations were completely different.
                read at your leisure. here is short https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_right

                Even in the article you quoted it is written in plain text:

                Comparative analysis of domestic and foreign approaches in the theory of EU law on the precedent nature of the decisions of the CAP made it possible to identify similarities and differences. Common to domestic and foreign science is the provision that the decision of the EAP is not a classic precedent in the understanding of the Romano-Germanic or Anglo-Saxon systems of law... An analysis of theoretical provisions on the characterization of a precedent as a source of EU law indicates a difference in approaches to such a property as the "obligation" of national courts to follow the decisions of the European Court of Justice. In our opinion, the decision of the ECP is a kind of standard, a measure for national justice authorities when considering similar cases, which can be taken into account by all other judicial authorities when considering subsequent cases related to one degree or another with decision of the CAP, which, as noted above, is advisory rather than mandatory.

                Judicial precedent (from Lat. Praecedens, genus praecedentis “previous”) is a decision of a certain court in a specific case, having the force of a source of law (that is, establishing, modifying or canceling legal norms). The precedent is the decisions rendered in a similar case, resolved in the framework of similar proceedings. A precedent is an incident or event that took place in the past and is an example or basis for similar actions in the present. Judicial precedent - a decision of the highest judicial body in a particular case, which is further binding on the courts when resolving similar cases.

                Thanks for the compliment. I have already seen your competence ... And not only me. Doesn't shine ...

                Your opinion about my person is not interesting to me from the word at all.
                1. Bakht Online Bakht
                  Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 11 October 2021 12: 32
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                  Your opinion is not interesting to me either.
                  European courts apply case law. The fact that national authorities take decisions of these courts or not is already a dispute within the European Union. There are a bunch of decisions on which there is no enforcement. But the EU court itself uses this right.

                  https://eur-lex.europa.eu/collection/eu-law/eu-case-law.html
                  1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
                    Marzhecki (Sergei) 14 October 2021 12: 01
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                    The scribbles you are referring to contradict one another.
                    1. Bakht Online Bakht
                      Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 14 October 2021 17: 05
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                      We have already found out which of us is ignorant. And even a hat won't help.
  5. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 11 October 2021 14: 13
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    The higher the position, the more rights to dispose of other people's property.
  6. Bakht Online Bakht
    Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 11 October 2021 14: 37
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    Or someone did not study well at the law faculty, or simply does not know the principles of the functioning of the European Court. But conceit and outdated knowledge do not always play a positive role.

    The Russian Federation recognizes the competence of the European Court of Justice on the interpretation and application of the Convention and its Protocols, exercised on the basis of the settlement of specific disputes, based on the case-law of the European Court

    Thus, the Russian Federation recognizes the competence of the European Court of Justice on the interpretation and application of the Convention and its Protocols, carried out on the basis of the settlement of specific disputes, based on the case-law of the European Court... It follows from this that in resolving disputes on applications against the Russian Federation, the European Court, within the framework of its application stare decisis principle, relies on the conclusions and his legal positions recorded by him and the European Commission of Human Rights that existed until November 1998 when considering cases not only in relation to the Russian Federation itself, but also against other member states of the European Convention... This leads the Russian legislator and law enforcement officer to the need for unconditional accounting (and, of course, knowledge) all the practice of the European Court.

    Collected here are documents on human rights. But exactly the same principles apply to other aspects of the European Court of Justice.
    PRECEDENTS OF THE EUROPEAN COURT OF HUMAN RIGHTS
    https://www.srji.org/upload/iblock/a63/1de_sal_via_m_pretsedenty_evropeyskogo_suda_po_pravam_chelove.pdf

    the stare decisis principle is a legal principle by which judges are obliged to respect the precedents set by previous decisions. The expression is taken from a Latin dictum that formulates this principle, Stare decisis et non quieta movere: "to stand on a decision and not disturb the calm." In the legal context, this is understood in such a way that courts should generally adhere to precedents and not reopen issues that have already been settled.
    1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
      Marzhecki (Sergei) 14 October 2021 12: 01
      0
      I graduated from law faculty with honors, as well as journalism faculty. Unlike you, I understand what I'm talking about. You are not.
      1. isofat Offline isofat
        isofat (isofat) 14 October 2021 13: 47
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        You have acquired a solid store of knowledge, the fact and quality of this event confirms and characterizes your diploma. The most important thing remains, to learn how to properly use the contents of this baggage. drinks
      2. Bakht Online Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 14 October 2021 17: 06
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        While you are not saying what it really is.
  7. gorenina91 Online gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 11 October 2021 17: 27
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    - Quite a large article ... - It reflects the only objective reality - this is that ... what ... that after a lost claim in the Stockholm arbitration, Gazprom paid $ 1,5 billion ... no mind ... - just take the money of the Russian taxpayers and pay a fine ... - - And what else did the "successful Gazprom" do ... - what did he get ??? - And what did you want to acquire ???
    - Some kind of "Santa Claus" and "summer granny" ... - what is all this for ??? - For a catchphrase, or what ??? - And the gas pipeline is "Serpent Gorynych", or what ??? - Hahah ...
    - Damn, sleepy Joe ... - he - "Koschey the Immortal" - calmly sits on the threshold of his house and ... and ... and cuts coupons ... - instead of fussing and creating a free benefit for everyone Europe ...
    - And Gazprom ... - instead of cutting coupons and chopping cabbage (to hammer up money) ... - suddenly started some incomprehensible "wise good deeds" ... - And at Gazprom itself it is very easy and very good speculators and stock market players have become welded ... - And what about Gazprom itself ??? - Awww !!!
    - And Gazprom just sat or stood - and watched - until everything itself "resolves" ??? - It turns out that so ...
    - Well, everything "resolved" by itself ... - not always a successful situation falls out ... - And whoever wanted to ... - he managed and "welded" well ... - while Gazprom stood (sat) and clapped his ears. ..- And then what ??? - And then ... - how everything went - and drove ... - Everything and business ...
    - For Europe, all of us and all of Russia can be calm ... - Europe will not freeze ... - will receive gas (as before it received) at the "agreed price" ... - Uff ... - just "a mountain from the shoulders" ... - otherwise everyone here was so worried about Europe ... - suddenly it will be cold in winter ...
    This is the end of the fairy tale ... - And there is nothing more to talk about ... - all remained with their "interests" ... - as it was - so everything remained ... - and there is nothing more to add ...
    1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
      Volkonsky (Vladimir) 11 October 2021 20: 54
      +1
      just wondering how you still got the right? Gazprom has made $ 2 billion this year alone, will it suit you? He recaptured expenses for Poland. That this will be so, it became clear in the spring, when the price of gas continued to grow, but Asia, too, did not moderate its appetites. As a result, the gas storage facilities remained empty. Then it was a matter of technology - to bring to a boil and remove the lid in time, which Putin did. But you would sit and wait for the lid to rip off, then you would be left without a pan and without a stove, but with gas.
      1. gorenina91 Online gorenina91
        gorenina91 (Irina) 11 October 2021 21: 27
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        - You, Mr. Volkonsky (Vladimir) ... - keep yourself in control ... - and do not break the rules and do not "exceed the speed", do not cross a solid line ... - and even more so - do not go to the oncoming lane. ..- and you will not have unnecessary problems ... This is my advice to you ...
        - And do not try to be clever ... - you simply do not succeed in many things ... - I do not care at all about your "intellect" ... - all the more so - about your "maxims" addressed to me ...

        Gazprom has made $ 2 billion this year alone, will it suit you? Spending on Poland recaptured

        - Where and what did Gazprom "weld" ???
        - Gazprom began 2021 with an increase in debt - it borrowed $ 2 billion to pay off old debts and finance an investment program ... - Last year Gazprom found itself in a difficult financial situation. Due to record losses, he was forced to borrow. In total, Gazprom borrowed $ 3 billion and € 3,4 billion from investors over the course of the year ....
        - Elementary "Pupkin's arithmetic" ... - count yourself ... - add and subtract yourself ... = if your "intellect allows you" ...
        - And where are the debt securities of "genius Gazprom" located today ???
        - Yes, more than 75% of these debt securities fell into the hands of investors from the United States, Great Britain, Switzerland and even Asian countries. This was openly stated by the vice-president of Gazprombank Denis Shulakov ...
        - It remains only to transfer the SP-2 gas pipe (two pipes) to someone else "in the property" ... ...
        - So what kind of "fat" and where ??? - Solid "soup on empty water" ...
        1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
          Volkonsky (Vladimir) 12 October 2021 01: 30
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          special fo yu! all definitions about unicellular bipeds that have no brains, spreading information about the unprofitableness of Gazprom and the exorbitant appetites of its owners (with 50% of the shares owned by the state) are directly related to you. All the numbers are given there - every sixth ruble in your pocket in 2019 was from Miller, in 2021 it will be every fifth. But everything is not enough for you!
          1. gorenina91 Online gorenina91
            gorenina91 (Irina) 12 October 2021 03: 41
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            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoCQ7InLcNQ
            special fo yu! all definitions about unicellular bipeds that do not have brains, spreading information about the unprofitableness of Gazprom and the exorbitant appetites of its owners (with 50% of the shares owned by the state) are directly related to you.

            - You, Mr Volkonsky (Vladimir) - here ... here ... here about yourself, or what - all the time trying to explain something ???
            - Some of the entire clip is given - as a "reinforced concrete argument", where a certain Y. - Blogger, or some generally recognized expert on "gas affairs", or ex-vice president of Gazprombank; or some figurant-representative from the block of capital markets ... - or just -your relative ??? - Who is this ???
            - It is only clear that he is two-legged (how are you here ... here ... here you please "qualify" the little men) ... - if he is, of course ... - not a Stevens character from "Treasure Island" - Silver (Hamnpork). ..
            - - Only one thing is strange ... - why did you "fall in love" with him, that you are trying to "argue" with him here ???
            - What are these "arguments" ???
            - Well, and the fact that there are two-legged representatives in the world of animals - who would argue ... - But the fact that "unicellular without brains" can "spread information" ... - here you have to - just take your word for it. .. - Maybe you are an expert in this area ... - here I personally - I will not argue ...
            1. Volkonsky Offline Volkonsky
              Volkonsky (Vladimir) 12 October 2021 05: 30
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              All this reminds me of the situation with Mona Lisa - she (La Gioconda), you see, did not impress some biped, and he (the biped) is indignant at this fact. They object to him that Mona Lisa is already at that age that she herself chooses who likes and who does not. Yuri Podolyaka has long been choosing himself who likes and who does not. The fact that you do not know who he is is a minus for you, not for him. But this does not in any way negate his arguments - there are figures from official documents, if you claim to be a person who knows how to count, add them up yourself, and then hang yourself
          2. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
            steelmaker 12 October 2021 07: 20
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            The budget of Russia in 2011 - 11,367 trillion rubles. at a rate of $ -32 rubles.
            The budget of Russia in 2021 - 18,8 trillion rubles. at a rate of $ - 64 rubles.
            So you say every sixth ruble? In whose pocket? I say: "You need a lawyer to ... Efremov!"
      2. Bakht Online Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 11 October 2021 21: 32
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        I agree with you. 2 billion is just what I made with pure money. But there are also indirect advantages. According to them, Nord Stream-2 has paid off. I do not agree with Y. Podolyaka with everything. Just for information. There is also such an opinion



        By the way, since October 1, the price of gas for Europe is already $ 330 per thousand cubic meters. With 170 pledges.
        1. kapitan92 Offline kapitan92
          kapitan92 (Vyacheslav) 11 October 2021 22: 10
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          Quote: Bakht
          By the way, since October 1, the price of gas for Europe is already $ 330 per thousand cubic meters. With 170 pledges.

          On October 6, the gas price at the Dutch TTF hub set a new all-time high, exceeding $ 1900 per thousand cubic meters, but after that began to decline.
          The price of gas in Europe at the close of trading on the London stock exchange ICE on Monday, October 11, again dropped to about $ 1000 per 1 cubic meters. m after growth during the day to $ 1123, according to the data of the trading floor.
          The cost of November futures on the TTF hub in the Netherlands at the close of trading settled at $ 1013 per 1 cubic meters. m.

          https://iz.ru/1234153/2021-10-11/tceny-na-gaz-v-evrope-vnov-priblizilis-k-1000-za-1-tys-kub-m
          1. Bakht Online Bakht
            Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 11 October 2021 22: 13
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            Everything is correct. But playing with stock quotes is very dangerous. Therefore, all major suppliers love long-term contracts pegged to the oil basket.
            There is a lot of specifics in this issue. I am now looking at the latest information from Martsinkevich. It is very interesting about the gas trade in the States. This is really interesting. But he has long videoconferences. Almost an hour. But I advise you to listen

        2. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
          steelmaker 12 October 2021 07: 22
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          welded with clean money.

          You are public money, do not equal personal money!
          1. Bakht Online Bakht
            Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 12 October 2021 07: 55
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            I must note that quite often government money ends up in personal wallets.
            1. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
              steelmaker 12 October 2021 10: 33
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              Then do not speak for public money, but immediately about personal wallets. And the impression that you admire Gazprom.
              1. Bakht Online Bakht
                Bakht (Bakhtiyar) 12 October 2021 11: 26
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                The word "admire" is not entirely correct. I generally do not admire anyone or anything. Life is complicated. In this particular case, how much does it cost in Russia to supply gas to private households?
    2. alexey alexeyev Offline alexey alexeyev
      alexey alexeyev (Alexey Alekseev) 13 October 2021 08: 03
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      Is it really not clear. They will put the price of gas in the price of their goods, which they sell to Russia. The point is to increase the price of gas if all profits turn into candy wrappers. The main thing is to stop in time. To eat the fish and ... observe innocence. What is Putin and did
  8. Mikhail Alekseev (Mikhail Alekseev) 12 October 2021 11: 17
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    RES (renewable energy sources) is still a fairy tale. The windmills are standing because there is no wind, the panels are standing because there is no sun, batteries for renewable energy sources harm the nature of the mother more gas and coal - since their disposal is a continuous hemorrhoid. So in the next 20-30 years nothing will threaten gas and oil.