Kazakhstan is heading towards abandoning everything Russian

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In an era of general reconstruction, each country is strenuously choosing a further path of development. Someone enters into new alliances, someone builds mono-ethnic states, hoping in this way to find a path to prosperity. And someone changes their writing, crossing out their past and hoping to start the life of their country from a new page. Or maybe you just need to live, rejoicing in a new day given by God, without war and hardships, with love for your neighbor, no matter what nationality and skin color he is?

The Parliament of Kazakhstan decided to translate all signs, menus and signs only into the Kazakh language. Russian will be left only if necessary. The bill has already passed the second reading. Part of the Kazakh society began to resent the fact that many Kazakhstanis in their daily life prefer the Russian language. Here are cunning deputies, in order to raise their rating, and took such a step.



Well, this fits well into the second step of the Kazakh nationalists after the "language patrols".

All signs, advertisements, price tags, menus, signs and other objects in Kazakhstan must be in the Kazakh language. In Russian - if necessary

- Berik Abdygaliuly, a member of the Committee for Social and Cultural Development of the Parliament of Kazakhstan, made such a statement at a meeting of the Majilis.

I wonder if signs are allowed in English? I remembered the English language for a reason. Several American military biological laboratories are still operating in the CSTO member country. In fact, these are American military bases, crammed in many Central Asian and other republics around Russia, in which military specialists from the Pentagon work. The Defense Threat Prevention Agency (DTRA) of the US Department of Defense, in charge of weapons of mass destruction research, has opened five laboratories at research centers in Kazakhstan. In total, (DTRA) invested $ 400 million in the creation of a network of biological laboratories in Kazakhstan. Moreover, in addition to local specialists, who, in the context of the confrontation between the CSTO and NATO, it is quite possible to call them not laboratory assistants, but NATO collaborators, servicemen from the US Navy Medical Center (Maryland), employees of the Bundeswehr Institute of Microbiology (Munich) and military laboratories in Porton carry out work in these laboratories. Down (UK). In the same Porton Down, which is a 20-minute drive from Sergei Skripal's house in Salisbury.

Here, experts from Porton Down noted that in 2013 in Kazakhstan, within the framework of the KZ-29 project, together with specialists from the US Navy, they conducted research on the Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever (CCHF) and studied the spread of tick disease in southern Kazakhstan on the basis of " Center for Especially Dangerous Infections "in Alma-Ata. Not even a year has passed since the beginning of the research, when a large outbreak of this particular disease was recorded in the republic, and it was in the south of Kazakhstan, and ticks became carriers of the disease. Coincidence? Or maybe these laboratories also began to negatively influence the consciousness of Kazakhstani people?

Let's take just a few possible consequences of such an initiative to clamp down on the Russian language by the Kazakh parliament.

The Kazakh authorities are trying to forget the Russian language, which so far 84% of citizens speak and write fluently and 34,3% of students study. As a result, the population of Kazakhstan becomes uncompetitive in the vastness of the former USSR, primarily due to the uncompetitiveness of the Kazakh language in comparison with the Russian language. Moreover, this is noted not only in Russia itself, but also in other, even neighboring republics. It is unlikely that the Kazakh language will be spoken even in neighboring Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan, not to mention Turkey, which calls all the Central Asian republics to unite under its leadership. Maybe the local Kazakh population will be able to perfectly learn the Turkish language in order to compete with the Turks in Turkey? Unlikely. They will forget the Russian language, and they will not learn other foreign languages ​​sufficiently, with the exception of, perhaps, 10% of the population. For this, a couple of generations will be enough and that's all, only in the field you can go to work as a laborer, harvest by hand.

About 3,4 million Russians live in Kazakhstan, which is almost 18,5% of the population. What will happen to these people? Even if all of them without exception will study the Kazakh language, they are unlikely to speak fluently, let alone write in it, like Kazakhs. This means no career growth and stagnation in the backyard with low wages. Meanwhile, Sergei Kuzhugetovich Shoigu was going to build new cities in Siberia. Apartments in new buildings will be given out to all visitors. And why don't these 3,4 million Russians move to these Siberian cities or to the Far East, which they are also going to intensively rebuild? And then something like what happened at the end of the 18th century in the Crimea, when Catherine the Second evicted the Greeks from there to Taganrog and Mariupol, thereby undermining the economy Crimean Khanate. Without artisans and hardworking peasants from the Greeks, the Khanate quickly fell into decay and was forced to join the Russian Empire. Or maybe this is the secret plan of the Kazakhstan Mazhilis?

And the third aspect is that by 2025 Kazakhstan should switch from Cyrillic to Latin. Nazarbayev says that all the advanced countries of the world use the Latin alphabet, so it is advisable for Kazakhstan to switch to the Latin alphabet. However, the most advanced, besides Russia, the nearest country to Kazakhstan is China, which means, logically, you need to switch to Chinese characters! By the way, neither China itself, nor both Koreas and Japan are eager to switch to the Latin alphabet.
And what, in the end, can such a transition to the Latin alphabet threaten Kazakhstan?

Let's start with the fact that in the Kazakh Cyrillic alphabet there are 42 letters, in the new alphabet based on the Latin letter - 32 letters. And the Cyrillic alphabet played a huge role in the formation and development of the Kazakh written language. And what will become of the entire body of knowledge and literature accumulated over the 20th century in the Cyrillic alphabet, when, in a couple of generations, this alphabet will be forgotten in Kazakhstan? I doubt that in the era of modern capitalism, Kazakhs will be able to print the same number of books that were published during the Soviet era and during 30 years of independence. This means that the link between generations will be severed. And this is tantamount to forgetting your foundations, your history. By the way, those Kazakhs who live in the Astrakhan, Orenburg, Volgograd, Omsk, Novosibirsk regions and a number of other regions of Russia are unlikely to use Latin Newspeak and will forever lose their cultural ties with Kazakhstan. Or maybe Kazakhstan itself voluntarily wants to lose contact with its compatriots living in Russia?

Now in Central Asia, the Cyrillic script remained in Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan. The Latin alphabet has long been used in Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan. It seems to me that just the Tajiks and the Kyrgyz will have a significant advantage in the future in finding a job in the vast expanses of rich Russia. And the Kazakhs? Kazakhs choose a different path - the path of abandoning their former literature and writing and joint future development with Russia. Perhaps Turkey will become closer to them over time? After all, the Kazakhs are unlikely to succeed in sitting on two chairs, staying in the CSTO and fully embarking on a course of rapprochement with NATO member Turkey. We'll have to choose. Or to Russia, with which they lived together for so many years, or to Turkey, which dreams of reviving the Ottoman Empire. Only first you need to remember how the Ottomans treated the Kazakhs ...
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  1. +6
    9 October 2021 12: 33
    In Tajikistan, at the end of the 80s, the Law on Language was adopted, the discussion of which (then a fashionable fad - discussion) was carried out in the press. There was only one reason for the transition to the state language - Tajik. Russian-speaking specialists (of any nationality) were head and shoulders above the local-speaking ones. The competition between Russian-speaking doctors and teachers was incomparably higher. And under the dubious pretext, "How will a doctor who performs a surgical operation on a patient who has come from the provinces, if they do not know a common language, communicate?" not worth a penny. The patient under anesthesia does not understand any language. And for a doctor, chatter only gets in the way. This is just one example of that national idiocy, going around in circles close to the power structures, engaged in this nonsense.



    My article in the "Evening Dushanbe" of that time. I would like to ask in the words of the unforgettable N.V. Gogol- "Well, did these damn Poles help you?" .... The results showed up almost immediately, after accepting this absurdity. Doctors and teachers were the first to be fired from their jobs. And this, just in the republic, lagging behind the general situation in the USSR in all these indicators.
    1. -4
      9 October 2021 17: 34


      I would like to ask in the words of the unforgettable N.V. Gogol- "Well, did these damn Poles help you?"

      It was not Gogol who said, but the literary hero Taras Bulba.
      And he said not so, but in a different way.
      Your talent is lost, which is about the same as that of Gogol.
      1. +5
        9 October 2021 23: 39
        Lenin pointed out that inflating their national issues is an attribute - an inalienable property - of the class struggle of the national bourgeoisie, its individual representatives for their private property, for their personal capital, for the markets for their products - for their economic DOMINANCE, for their personal POWER. And an important role in this respect is played by the ARTIFICIAL imposition of their national LANGUAGE on other peoples. Namely.

        Thanks to the imposition of their national Kazakh language on other peoples in the same MNOGONats. In Kazakhstan, the entire nationalizing nation, the entire Kazakh people is automatically drawn into the struggle of the Kazakh national bourgeoisie for its national sovereignty in the country at an irrational, subconscious level. What a multinational. the state takes on an asocial character.
        At the same time, the inflation of Kazakh nationalism, no matter what particular forms it manifests, ultimately turns as a whole into a struggle of the nationalizing Kazakhs for the redistribution of the entire aggregate MULTINATS. public property in the country in favor of only ONE - this Kazakh nationalizing nation.
        It is an attempt by representatives of the Kazakh nationality to join the multinationals. the state to enrich itself at someone else's expense - at the expense of representatives of other nationalities, excluding them from equal participation with them in the shared division of the aggregate multinational property in the country, and above all on the means of production and land, thereby reducing the number of people participating in the section.
        Thus, the Kazakhs in Kazakhstan, with the abolition of the Russian language, simply rob the Russians.

        Inflated bourgeois nationalism is disgusting because, in essence, is the policy of robbery by one people of all other peoples... And an extremely radical antisocial manifestation of this nationalism is racism, accompanied by the apartheid regime.
        1. +4
          10 October 2021 11: 59
          You are right, Tatiana.
          There is one more factor.
          This is Russia's inability to somehow formulate its geopolitical goals in the post-Soviet space, combined with its helpless domestic policy.
          This does not give an opportunity, and does not give rise to a desire among geopolitical players to take into account the factor of Russia in their actions.
          What can we say about their respect for her interests.
          Our Petrels and Poseidons, as you understand, are absolutely useless to us here.
          In domestic politics, Russia still has pleasant dreams that are obvious to everyone except its leadership.
          I would like to remind you that Kazakhstan, its external border, WHILE is a remote line of defense of Russia from a missile attack, increasing the possible flight time of missiles.
    2. -2
      10 October 2021 05: 11
      And under the dubious pretext, "How will a doctor who performs a surgical operation on a patient who has come from the provinces, if they do not know a common language, communicate?" not worth a penny. The patient under anesthesia does not understand any language. And for a doctor, chatter only gets in the way.

      But before treatment, the doctor must conduct an anamnesis and examination of the patient, which, without understanding the language, will really be at least difficult to do.
      1. +1
        10 October 2021 13: 55
        In hospitals, there are always several people on rounds, dressings, operations. In the multinational RK, where Russian is the language of interethnic communication according to the constitution, everything is normal in this regard.
        By the way, in South Africa there are 14 official languages, in the Swiss confederation there are four and nothing, everything is normal in these powers, taking into account the specifics, of course ...
  2. +3
    9 October 2021 12: 55
    To put forward a demand for the return of our lands, which he inherited from Russia. Fascism is cultivated there, like the Ukrainian one, though with the assistance of our almost ally China.
  3. -1
    9 October 2021 12: 58
    No matter how you miss with such a course - lay the route more precisely in the GARDEN, EVERYTHING IN THE GARDEN !!!
  4. +6
    9 October 2021 13: 23
    chop off the northern regions - and goodbye, K-stan! Let them sit in yurts and lap up kumis, driving away flies
    1. 0
      9 October 2021 14: 29
      py si
      now it is easy to do when OTAN is in a stupor, and a moronic grandfather is sitting in Tonova Voshi
  5. +6
    9 October 2021 13: 24
    The moral of that fable is
    Do not do good - you will not receive evil in return ...
  6. +2
    9 October 2021 14: 24
    The algorithm of actions is the same for all post-Soviet state formations. Kazakhstan was created by the Soviet government as one of the republics of the USSR and during the period of industrialization the Russian language became widespread in the Kazakh Soviet socialist republic.
    After the Yeltsin coup, the collapse of the USSR and the acquisition of statehood by the former Kazakh Soviet Socialist Republic, the ruling circles faced the task of strengthening power, the transition from the class policy of internationalism to the national one. The displacement of the Russian-speaking population followed, the revision of history and the creation of one's own, national Kazakh, the most important stage was the transition to the state, Kazakh language, etc.
  7. +9
    9 October 2021 14: 54
    I have never been a Russian nationalist, neither in my soul nor in my heart, but now I have become one, having spent 2,5 years under the bombing and shelling of our Ukrainian "non-brothers", and everything that happened in Ukraine will be in all Central Asian republics. Even the USSR did not collapse, and already from these "fraternal" union republics the Russians poured a shaft on their ancestral homeland because of the oppression of the Slavic ethnos there - Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians. They are already showing themselves, and this is only the beginning. And the question is, why did we create some kind of muddy CSTO stadzhiks, Uzbeks, Kyrgyz and Kazakhs, after all, at the first opportunity they will turn our weapons against us, and our government understands this perfectly, but continues to flirt with these Asians. The West needs these republics as a springboard for aggression against us, and the local natives will be honored with the fate of the North American Indians. It is urgent to begin the repatriation of the Russian people to their ethnic homeland from these Asian republics, and to end all relations with our future enemies.
    1. +2
      10 October 2021 07: 42
      Right. That's right! But not in this mode. Putin does not want to put anyone in an uncomfortable position. So that's the case. To be honest, it's not fucking clear what the Russian authorities want. Of course, all these experts, political scientists and analysts, will explain clearly and truthfully with the facts why everything is so, and not otherwise ... but all this is complete wild crap! For probably ten years or more, Russians have been asking Putin and Co - what, apart from trading in hydrocarbons (and in their pocket), can they offer everyone else? So no one really explained, it was like Putin's plan, which seems to be working, then the theses, then the messages, then I don't remember something else, but very important, then Crimea ... but tell me specifically - where are we going? ???? Why????? In the name of what ????? They are silent. Well, there is no war ... well, what is there? Peace? There is peace - this is good, perhaps this is the main achievement of this regime - there is no war (not yet?). Well, what about the rest? Wait for breakouts? Or not? In general, society has misunderstandings. In short, when these naive questions are spelled out in some official muculature, such as the Constitution and something like that according to the fundamental principle, then then ... then we will live. And we will punish ukrov and send these half-kirgiz somewhere so that they will remain there. Although where to send these fools, they already live in Kazakhstan (in Kazakhstan, Karl!). And to everyone else we will show our unbending will, nerves of steel and strong fists. And as there, in almost classics, the quote: "bahn more than once, the whole world in dust ... but then ..." In short ... all later.
      But seriously, I believe Russia and the Russian people have a chance. Definitely there!
      All the other 14 (13?) Stupid sisters - definitely NO!
  8. +1
    9 October 2021 15: 40
    All the author's groans are meaningless. The process cannot be stopped. All the former republics of the USSR are now striving to lean against the hegemon, the United States. Following the example of the same aspiration of Russia in the 90s. An example that is very attractive for the local elite - Gorbachev, Kozyrev and a host of others settled well on the stolen goods.
    1. 0
      9 October 2021 17: 28
      Lean against the hegemon-USA - to smell more solid corpse meat! This hehemon-pokemon will soon be rolled on their little fingers under the bunk !!!
  9. -1
    9 October 2021 17: 01
    Only first you need to remember how the Ottomans treated the Kazakhs ...

    - And not only the Ottomans ... - To the Kazakhs and Kirghiz very much (how to say "more tolerant") ... - Caucasian peoples are very inadequate (for nothing that both of them consider themselves Muslims) ... -But Caucasians somehow "push it aside" when it comes to Muslim Mongoloids (Kazakhs and Kyrgyz) ... There is no special friendship (to say the least) between Tatars and Kazakhs ... - the same thing - between Kazakhs and Uzbeks ... - Probably the Kazakhs think that if they suddenly "switch to the Latin alphabet", then ... then ... they will immediately rise "one step higher" ... - But this "step-stump" may turn out to be on the contrary ... downward ... - But by the way - that's their business ...
  10. +1
    9 October 2021 17: 42
    Our people need to be taken out, nationality is not important. Let these countries make their mistakes, they do not need to interfere and persuade this useless shit will always come out.
    1. -7
      10 October 2021 09: 07
      Where to export? Russia itself is in shit
      1. +1
        10 October 2021 14: 07
        Sly, dear, but honestly and a lot of work have never tried?
        Although judging by your tone, you have never been to Russia ...
  11. +1
    9 October 2021 18: 02
    Well, what about Putin and Lavrov are silent? And we have Kazakh vodka for 120-160 rubles. Well, do not put pressure on these Kazakhs economically, as well as Bandera? Putin and Lavrov are appointed by Russia to trade, not to defend Russians!
    1. +1
      10 October 2021 09: 06
      What should they say? According to the law, signs on government institutions, letterheads are written in Russian and Kazakh. Chastniki write to a wish. In fact, everything remains as the last 30 years. You ask the author why he distorts the information !?
      1. 0
        11 October 2021 08: 50
        We have a lot of Russian Kazakhs working. So this year, not a single one was allowed to enter Kazakhstan. Without explaning the reason. Not to my parents, not to the graves. Others are called by their parents that they do not go out into the street for no reason. So the author does not distort the information, but does not tell the whole truth. Otherwise, as if in our country, the pogroms of these Kazakhs did not begin.
  12. +2
    9 October 2021 18: 36
    Quote: radvas
    All the lamentations of the author are meaningless. The process cannot be stopped.

    Everything is correct, since for 60 years in the United States there have been institutions for the collapse of the USSR (and continue to successfully exist and work), and now Russia and its entourage, and they work according to long-term plans designed for years. They find capable agents of influence, train, manage them. Now, if you carry out analytical work, there are a couple of three key figures in Tajikistan who do this, form public opinion, influence the creation of laws! The problem is solved simply, the figures are found and silently removed! So the CIA has been working in the Russian Federation for the last 10-15 years. Look how many key figures have died in the Russian Federation in recent years under unclear circumstances, chemists, biologists, physicists, sociologists, politicians!
  13. -1
    10 October 2021 08: 34
    The author is misleading: firstly, the signs of state institutions, schools, hospitals, the forms of these institutions will be in two languages: Kazakh and Russian.Participants at will, but they will leave 90% in Russian Secondly, Kazakhstan is the only republic in the CIS, where there are still signs and office work in Russian.t the writing is also in Cyrillic .. In the same Russia, when there is a Kazakh diaspora, no one makes signs in Kazakh and there are not even schools in Kazakh, the latter was closed a couple of years ago. There are double standards. And there is no need to make a tragedy out of this. Citizens of Russia should pay attention to the highest mortality rate of the Russian population in this and last years over the past thirty years, after 1994 in Russia as a result of the outbreak of covid and the pension reform of the "lifter of Russia from its knees" Putin: And Don't Look For "a Mote in Your Neighbor's Eye"
  14. -1
    10 October 2021 08: 36
    The author is misleading: "In the norms of the Law" On Languages ​​"this is very clearly spelled out: signs and letterheads of state organizations are set out in the state and Russian languages, as well as, if necessary, in other languages.

    The adopted amendments are primarily aimed at systematizing and streamlining the use of the state language. This is important in the context of reforming the Kazakh language as a whole and corresponds to its status, enshrined in the Constitution of our country "
  15. 0
    10 October 2021 09: 11
    Language is only part of the problem with the republics that were part of the USSR. Unlike Ukraine, where the Russians are indigenous people, in many of them Russia supplied its specialists, often in different orders of universities. People, especially specialists, are the same resource for the state as any other, and, moreover, creating not only surplus value, but also changing the living conditions in a given area. It is high time at the CIS level to adopt laws on the rules of the receiving and providing parties on the basis of the same conditions that existed in the USSR for this category of persons under state guarantees and respecting the rights of those who left before the collapse of the union. Without rules, such a process is like the analogue of the slave trade. People should be respected. The construction of a mono-national state in the modern world looks somewhat strange, but its builders are obliged to offer and finance the move in a civilized manner to everyone who does not want to see them as citizens.
  16. -1
    10 October 2021 10: 09
    The Parliament of Kazakhstan decided to translate all signs, menus and signs only into the Kazakh language.

    Let Kazakhstan return to Russia all the northern Russian regions, and then at least in Chinese or in Spanish they write and speak.
    Otherwise, they will get a "second Donbas".
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  17. 0
    10 October 2021 10: 23
    Quote: Cyril
    And under the dubious pretext, "How will a doctor who performs a surgical operation on a patient who has come from the provinces, if they do not know a common language, communicate?" not worth a penny. The patient under anesthesia does not understand any language. And for a doctor, chatter only gets in the way.

    But before treatment, the doctor must conduct an anamnesis and examination of the patient, which, without understanding the language, will really be at least difficult to do.

    Agree. But a doctor, as I understand his profession, trusts more objective data than a person's feelings, distorted by many unpredictable factors. And at first, for informational purposes, you can talk with the patient through an assistant who speaks two languages. for example, working with a nurse. Even her weak training in medicine will be sufficient to communicate in her (native) language with the patient. Does bilingualism suggested by sane participants in the discussion prohibit this option?
  18. 0
    10 October 2021 13: 53
    It is surprising that Russia is silent ........
    1. +1
      10 October 2021 16: 53
      Let them do what they want. We care less.
      When "independent" Kazakhstan, starting from the south, begins to turn into a "Wild Field", we will not have obligations to the entire population. Our business is to take the Russian-speaking people from the south to the cities of Shoigu, to take control of the north of the country and the necessary deposits in the south. The rest of the refugees should not be allowed into the Russian Federation. The rest of the territory - to develop in decades, as far as economic opportunity and need.
  19. +1
    10 October 2021 16: 46
    As Napoleon Bonaparte said, "Geography is destiny!"
    Kazakhstan has only two options, Cyrillic or Chinese characters. There will be no other currency zones nearby.
    At the same time, China is more undesirable for the Kazakhs than Russia. This is their opinion.
    Any other choice will cost Kazakhstan much more.
    It is strange that Nazarbayev does not understand what is happening in the world, he always considered him a smart man.
  20. 0
    12 October 2021 14: 21
    In Russia, too, all signs, price tags and advertisements with instructions for using toilet paper should be done only in Russian !!! Let them cry ...
    For the Kazakhs are much better off in Turkey! And with the Turks of the World they are 100 times better than with the Russians!
    And even Ukrainians are fighting off the Russians with their hands and feet!
  21. -1
    15 October 2021 01: 19
    Let's start with the fact that Kazakhstan, like Ukraine, is an artificial new formation that arose under the Bolsheviks and the USSR. And except for the Russian language, there could not be in the newly created Kazakhstan. While the USSR was, Kazakhstan was its far periphery, like a buffer. The USSR did not become, Kazakhstan became an independent country without history. Yes, he has no history, and never had. And the one that was connected mainly with the USSR. Moreover, Kazakhstan is not Russia. And now an independent state, a country, has the right to do whatever it wants. He owes nothing to Russia, and even more so to take care of the Russian language and preserve it. And if so, why would Kazakhstan, as an independent country and state, need to take care of the Russian language and preserve it when it has its newfound and artificial, national Kazakh in quotation marks? And for the Russians living in Kazakhstan, Kazakhstan, too, should not and is not obliged to, and even more so to take into account any of their interests. And if so, then either the Russians in Kazakhstan adapt to the new realities and requirements, conditions, and if they cannot, do not want, then let them bring them down somewhere. This means that all those who live by the Russian will not willingly lived in Kazakhstan, who do not know any language other than Russian, there will be no other way but to leave Kazakhstan and return to their historical homeland, Russia. Not a bad deal for them. If not the best in this case. For life in Kazakhstan is hardly higher than life in Russia.

    So, Kazakhstan is not Russia, and it does not owe anything to Russia, like everything connected with it and through the former USSR, and has the right to pursue any independent and national policy.
  22. 0
    18 November 2021 08: 50
    But what about this Kazakhstan ?! It's just that the Russians who lived there "according to distribution" did not know Kazakh! And if they understood that the Erbols were talking about Russians back in the 60s, then at 2 o'clock they would lay down their clothes and - to the house, to the hut!
    What do they say? Definitely - and the Second World War was "not their war", but the Germans were brothers, and the Americans are wonderful, generous people, and the Turks are generally like apa men ata, but the Russians "always discriminated against them," and in general Russia devoured them, ruined them in Great snipe nature with dozens of nuclear and space test sites (owes 10 trillion dollars, so soon the court in The Hague will decide), carried out genocide - half of the population was destroyed by the Russians by the Holodomor in the 32nd.
    Just let the Russians say Che - we will destroy everyone!
    So we need to strengthen the border and conclude the Putin-Qingping Pact with China
  23. 0
    31 March 2022 05: 18
    After Ukraine, we will have to do the same with Kazakhstan.
  24. 0
    April 11 2022 16: 53
    Well, we are waiting for the mass arrival of the Russian-speaking population. Then the arrival of the Kazakhs who have relatives in Russia, and then the systematic degradation of the local population. And not because they are stupid, but because there will be no exchange of mind. Amers do not need them, if only the government was loyal and that's it.