Why Russia does not have aircraft carriers and will not be in the near future

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Why does the Russian Federation have no aircraft carriers? Have you ever asked yourself a similar question? Because Russia is a continental, not a maritime power, it has no interests outside its borders, it protects exclusively its own territory from encroachments of Western inquisitors hungry for someone else's good. Aircraft carriers are needed to instill their own views on life in remote theaters of war. But while Russia does not claim to be the world hegemon, such tasks are not included in its plans.

If the status changes, the plans will also change, but so far Russia has enough problems in its own underbelly, which its Western "partners" are throwing at it non-stop. They will set fire from the north, encroaching on the Northern Sea Route and the Arctic continental shelf, then from the south, whipping up tension in the NKAO and Central Asian republics. I am already silent about Ukraine, Transnistria, Georgia, Belarus. They laid it around the entire perimeter. I have little idea of ​​an aircraft carrier in the steppes of Ukraine, and on the Arctic coast it is much cheaper to locate basing and jump airfields (which Shoigu does, restoring our presence in the region that we left after the collapse of the Soviet Union) than to maintain an Arctic oceanic aircraft carrier strike group.



An aircraft carrier without escort ships protecting it both from the air and from the sea is nothing more than a sweet target for enemy missiles and torpedoes and a mass grave for its crew members and air wing pilots. Russia now has no money for aircraft carriers, or even for destroyers and escort frigates, not to mention a cruiser. The existing BNKs become obsolete and are removed from the fleet, it makes no sense to extend their service life, and there is no money for new surface ships of the 1st and 2nd ranks (cruisers and destroyers). Therefore, the Russian Federation took the path of building frigates and corvettes of the 1st and 2nd ranks of the far and near sea zones. The tasks of the military presence in remote theaters of military operations will be called upon to solve the UDC (universal amphibious ships) of project 23900 "Ivan Rogov" and "Mitrofan Moskalenko", which are now being built at the Kerch shipyard "Zaliv" (the launch date is 2026 and 2027, respectively ).

“Don't compare Putin to God. Of course, this guy is very good, but far from Putin! " (author of the aphorism is unknown)


Until now, the military doctrine of the Russian Federation did not provide for the implantation of "democracy" in remote theaters of operations. But life made us, and in 2015, our submarines unexpectedly surfaced for everyone in the Syrian desert, dramatically changing the balance of power available there. Unexpectedly, first of all, for the Americans (I'm talking about conventional submarines, I hope everyone understood). As a result of those events, the international status of the Russian Federation in the world table of ranks also increased sharply, once again proving that nothing in this world has changed since ancient times, when the main argument in the dispute was not a bag of money, but brute physical strength, a spear and a bow with arrows. ... The appearance of universal amphibious assault ships-helicopter carriers in the arsenal of our means in the near future will allow Moscow to convey its idea more convincingly not only in the Middle East theater of operations, but in the future, in any other theater of potential military operations remote from the Russian Federation.

There is an inverse linear relationship - not military spending depends on economics country, and the country's economy is directly dependent on its military spending. Only a country that can defend itself can afford to have a developed economy. Otherwise, you will quickly find good uncles who, with the help of a conventional Kalashnikov machine, will take away both the roll and the butter from you, not to mention the black caviar. Or they will say that you have enough rolls, but they need butter more. True, in their hands they will rather not have a Kalashnikov assault rifle, but an M-16 rifle. But all these are conventions, the main idea that Napoleon formulated long before all these events, you understood: "A people who do not want to feed their army will be forced to feed someone else's." Russia almost came to know this truth on its own skin in the late 90s, all the more surprising for its enemies was its fabulous rebirth from the ashes with the advent of Putin. Out of inertia, they tried to talk to the Russian Federation from a position of strength for some time, but after breaking off in August 2008 (I'm talking about the events of 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX), they just crawled away ever since.

Putin has once again proved his ability to think strategically. Instead of competing with the Americans in the number of AUGs, Russia went into hypersound, which completely nullified all the advantages of the United States in military matters, multiplying all eleven of its AUGs by zero and forcing once again to swallow dust from under Putin's hooves. It is impossible to fight with Russia with the means available to the United States. She's too big for that. You can't get it either from land or sea. Only with rockets and only in the event of an unconventional confrontation in which there will be no winners. A conventional war with the Russian Federation with the use of conventional conventional weapons is not possible for the West. More precisely, it is possible, but the outcome for the West is a foregone conclusion. By definition, he cannot win it, he does not have enough logistic or escalation capabilities for this.

Do you want a war with Russia?


Putin recently complained that he flew from Moscow to Vladivostok for 9 hours, slightly less than from Moscow to New York across Western Europe and the Atlantic. How to fight such a country? Why do we need foreign territories? We have enough of our own! In general, I advise everyone, no, I just strongly recommend listening to this video:


At least the first 2 minutes. There, Putin popularly explains to an American journalist that Russia is not going to fight with anyone, including NATO, that this is pure crystallized nonsense! That Russia has other arguments in this confrontation. Political... And she succeeded in them. No, I cannot put it into words. This is a must see! Look into the eyes of Putin. The American journalist's jaw dropped after the first words of the President of the Russian Federation. He didn't even find what to say. Why is there an American journalist - my jaw dropped, I have not seen such a Putin yet (although I have seen a lot), now I understand Zelensky's fears of personal communication with VVP. He simply suppresses the psyche, crushes his victim like a python, you need to go to him in a spacesuit and it is better not to look into the eyes.

But I got a little distracted. Let's go back to the American AUG. How can they get to us? Only from the North or the Pacific Ocean. From the south, they cannot pass the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles without violating the Montreux convention. And from the north, too, you will not be particularly fooled, over the past 30 years after the collapse of the Soviet Union there was only one such case, when the American nuclear aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman in October 2018, accompanied by ships of the 8th aircraft carrier strike group crossed the Arctic Circle and entered the Arctic. Prior to that, the last time an American aircraft carrier entered the Arctic was in September 1991, when the steam turbine aircraft carrier USS America participated in the North Star exercise in the Norwegian Sea. What did "Harry Truman" forget 30 years later in our latitudes, I don't know? Americans write:

Truman's mission in northern Europe was to demonstrate the flexibility and toughness of the US Navy through large-scale military exercises with regional allies and partners.

This is the maximum they can do! Because there is no military use of the AUG air wing against the Russian Federation. Its coverage radius of 700-800 km does not allow us to inflict any damage at strategic depth. This figure is taken from the calculation of the rise for a massive strike of a group of 30-35 aircraft, flight to the target, direct attack, return and landing of the group the outcome). The lot of the AUG is to fight the banana coastal states and scare lone ships at sea. They are useless against Russia with its vast distances. And after the appearance on the armament of the Russian Aerospace Forces of hypersonic "Daggers" - killers of aircraft carriers, and in the future and hypersonic "Zircons" sea-based, their use against the Russian Federation will mean a 100% guarantee of their sinking. So how can you fight Putin after that ?!
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  1. 123
    -1
    19 August 2021 07: 57
    Why does the Russian Federation have no aircraft carriers? Have you ever asked yourself a similar question? Because Russia is a continental, not a maritime power, it has no interests outside its borders, it protects exclusively its own territory from encroachments of Western inquisitors hungry for someone else's good.

    And there are no smartphones of our own because we are proud and are not going to call anywhere. Who needs to write letters. On birch bark And of course we are smart and beautiful and we know how to cross-stitchYes
    Judging by the plans for the construction of "Ulyanovsk", Her Majesty the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, being already in old age, was surprised to find that there was an outlet to the sea. And it is more convenient to carry socialism to the masses in remote corners of the planet with them. Well, I decided to try it. The truth did not have time ... you know the age.
    Thanks for having fun in the morning good hi
    1. +4
      19 August 2021 08: 39
      For once, I completely agree with you. The article is superficial and without understanding the essence of the issue. From the word at all.
      1. -1
        18 September 2021 16: 04
        you are a stupid person ...
    2. +5
      19 August 2021 16: 42
      Smartphones have turned the generation into idiots.

      ... We finally came to what we were striving for - we brought up a country of idiots. If Russia continues to follow the same course, then in another ten years there will be no more of those who today at least occasionally pick up a book. And we will get a country that will be easier to rule, from which it will be easier to suck natural resources. But this country has no future! ... Time passes, and the processes that lead to the degradation of the nation, no one even tries to understand and stop ...

      (From an interview with Sergei Kapitsa to the weekly "Arguments and Facts". No. 37 dated 09.09.2009)
      1. 123
        -1
        19 August 2021 18: 49
        Smartphones have turned the generation into idiots.

        Are you suggesting to refuse them?
  2. -4
    19 August 2021 08: 46
    Is an aircraft carrier without escort ships a sweet target? And what about frigates, destroyers and cruisers without their aircraft carrier against the AUG? They just don't have a single chance. A surface fleet without carrier-based aircraft does not play against the US Navy at all, so why is it needed at all? How will you aim with these zircons if the satellite constellation is disabled? Against the AUG, you need your own aircraft carrier with an AWACS aircraft for reconnaissance and control of naval combat and carrier-based fighter aircraft. We do not have it, no miracle of the rocket can guarantee destruction. Colleague, first you need to dive deeply into the topic, and then write against the aircraft carriers in the Ukrainian steppes.
    1. +1
      19 August 2021 09: 16
      There is a proposal to create an underwater aircraft carrier with drones on board! Comes out at the right moment and let's touch the foe!
      1. -2
        19 August 2021 09: 30
        The article is a set of hackneyed and incorrect clichés, alas. I have been deeply interested in this topic for a long time, I have mastered a lot of specialized material in order to judge it.
        1. +3
          19 August 2021 15: 21
          Pan Marzhecki, if you are so knowledgeable, describe the situation in which our AUG could collide with the American one? We are doctrinal defenders.
          1. +1
            19 August 2021 17: 32
            Open the wiki about Kuznetsov, read the tasks for which the ship was created. For example, guarding the Boreyev deployment area for an attack on the United States or fighting American boats populated in Russia. How this contradicts our doctrine, explain. Here is the scenario for a collision with the AUG. And there is nothing to catch here without an aircraft carrier.
            1. +2
              19 August 2021 20: 16
              That is, you say that it will not be able to cope with the cover of the deployment area of ​​the IBM without an aircraft carrier?
              And how does AUG fight strategic boats? Explain.
              If the escort ships, then "what the hell to the goat accordion"? Or should there be anti-submarine aviation at the AUG?
              Just don't bring me Soviet anti-submarine helicopter carriers, these are specialized ships.
    2. -3
      19 August 2021 11: 50
      planes are also netui space industry ditched what inherited from the USSR.
      1. +2
        19 August 2021 15: 25
        Miller, what are you talking about.
        Or are you talking about Ur-inu? Specify.
    3. +4
      19 August 2021 15: 37
      Colleague Marzhetsky: Note, I did not comment on your opuses, and did not tell you what to do and where to dive. This time! Secondly, you can hang your competencies in the field of the Navy on the wall and admire them. You are as far from the navy as Elon Musk is from Mars. You shouldn't consider yourself smarter than officers of the Main Staff of the Navy. They themselves will figure out what to build and what not. From your level of competence, you are trying to judge strategic issues from the standpoint of tactics. Get out of your trench and go to the command post of the commander. He has a completely different goal-setting, because he thinks in other categories - strategic. The Russian Federation has no money, not only for the construction of aircraft carriers, but even for the construction of cover ships - I'm not talking about the cruisers, but we can't even afford the destroyers yet. Therefore, a decision was made (not by me, but by the Main Headquarters of the Navy) on the construction of corvettes and frigates (it is in this sequence, and not vice versa, the corvette - will be the basis of our Navy, while this is so). Without escort ships, the aircraft carrier is defenseless. But besides money, we also do not have shipyards that can accept such construction (TARK Kuznetsov no longer know where to repair, two nuclear submarines are waiting for a dock for scheduled repairs, which it occupies), there is not even a carrier-based aircraft that could be located there, VTOL aircraft not already 30 years (about AWACS aircraft on board the AUG, this is finally something new, did you come up with it yourself? You will go far!). But the most important thing is that the appearance of hypersound nullifies the AUG as a class of ships. They will disappear just like dreadnoughts and battleships with the appearance of submarines. Why should we shoot money at them when the Americans are following in our footsteps and sooner or later will go hypersonic? And I am not saying anything yet about the military doctrine, which does not imply the presence of AUG. I laugh loudly and homerically when I read such sofa experts who have read the Internet, telling what to do to Putin and Shoigu. That's right, you are such D'Artagnans all in white, and Putin is the cardinal's guardsman and an enemy of Russia. Let go. Not even funny!
      1. -3
        19 August 2021 16: 58
        That was a greyhound, especially on the part of a person who was repeatedly caught plagiarizing, including my humble opuses. And when you, a colleague, a citizen of Ukraine, took the liberty of thinking about what kind of fleet Russia needs and what kind of Russian money does Russia need to count? I don’t even laugh, I just spread my hands.
        1. +2
          19 August 2021 17: 45
          there is nothing to comment on - then at your leisure you will count the cons
      2. -2
        19 August 2021 17: 14
        Your level of incompetence in aircraft carrier topics is so blatant that you decided to mock the AWACS aircraft at the AUG. Do not disgrace yourself and type in Google the word Hawkeye
        1. +2
          19 August 2021 17: 56
          and here I propose to the lover and connoisseur of Grummanov to estimate the combat radius of his favorite product at 320 km (with a patrol duration of 3-4 hours), and also to compare the maximum detection distance of the Grumman E-2 Hawkeye enemy aircraft at 540 km (missiles are even lower - at 260 km) with a radius of action of our Daggers of 2000 km, not counting the combat radius of the MiG-31K carrier, and calculate for yourself who has problems here - the MiG-31K or the AUG, about the speed of the product in Mach 10-12 (4 km / s ), I am already silent. While Grumman will report on the approach of the Dagger, there will be nowhere to report, as well as to sit down for him too, it's good if it reaches the shore
          1. +1
            20 August 2021 15: 49
            estimate the combat radius of his favorite product at 320 km



            The combat radius will increase.
    4. 123
      +1
      19 August 2021 19: 07
      Is an aircraft carrier without escort ships a sweet target? And what about frigates, destroyers and cruisers without their aircraft carrier against the AUG?

      Quite a strange approach. They work in a complex, each ship has its own tasks and purpose. Don't you want to consider fighters and bombers in the same way?

      A surface fleet without carrier-based aircraft does not play against the US Navy at all, so why is it needed at all?

      Who told you that? Spit in his face Yes If my memory serves me, someone yesterday suggested that the nuclear cruiser be converted into a training ship winked And I don’t remember doubts about its necessity. feel

      How will you aim with these zircons if the satellite constellation is disabled?

      Well, yes, well, yes ... why do we need tanks, what to do if suddenly diesel fuel runs out ... Are you serious? belay Kindergarten, pants on the straps smile I don't even want to discuss it.

      Against the AUG, you need your own aircraft carrier with an AWACS aircraft for reconnaissance and control of naval combat and carrier-based fighter aircraft. We do not have it, no miracle of the rocket can guarantee destruction.

      Try to discuss this issue with Mike Griffin, does it seem to you that people with such strange views occupy not the last positions in the US Department of Defense?

      The US military should consider buying a huge arsenal of long-range hypersonic missiles instead of trying to maintain a large fleet of nuclear-powered aircraft carriers.
      This is one of the ideas that Mike Griffin, undersecretary of defense for research and development, came up with at a conference in Washington DC in September 2019.
      "Let's just suggest a thought experiment," Griffin said, according to Defense News. “What do you think the Chinese leadership will fear more: 2000 conventional attack missiles possessed by the United States and its allies in the Western Pacific, capable of hitting Chinese targets, or one new aircraft carrier? Because these two things cost about the same amount of money. These are the questions we need to ask ourselves. "

      https://www.yahoo.com/now/pick-weapon-u-navy-aircraft-054000535.html
    5. -1
      20 August 2021 21: 08
      A surface fleet without carrier-based aircraft does not play against the US Navy at all, so why is it needed at all?

      A surface fleet without a strong army for a continental power is a toy of little use, but expensive.
      And taking resources away.

      Are we going on a campaign against the United States?
    6. 0
      9 September 2021 06: 27
      Zircon has a different principle of action. Not like an American one for gps. The principle is as follows - the rocket is launched into an "approximate" target square, and then uses its own guidance system.
  3. -5
    19 August 2021 09: 18
    What is this stream of consciousness? Did the author Shoigu bite you? Quite already ... idolatry.
  4. 0
    19 August 2021 10: 55
    Because Russia is a continental, not a maritime power, it has no interests outside its borders ...

    The author is just a kid in strategy. Aircraft carriers are essential when you need to implement naval versus shore scenariosince an aircraft carrier is primarily an arsenal. A huge arsenal of all kinds of weapons, put forward to the borders of the enemy. Base for servicing submarines, changing their crews. Base to house several brigades of the Marine Corps.
    And nothing prevents the aircraft carrier itself from being armed with Zircons, Onyxes, Calibers and all other weapons.
    1. +2
      19 August 2021 15: 43
      where is our enemy? are you going to take America by storm? equipping an aircraft carrier with missiles is already hallucinogenic delirium, for this there are ships of the order of cover
    2. 0
      19 August 2021 17: 21
      The aircraft carrier is needed not only against the coast. But also against the fleet. Deck aircraft will provide air cover and long-range missile attacks from an unattainable distance.
    3. +2
      19 August 2021 23: 46
      That's right, a versatile, possibly modular, highly mobile platform.
  5. 0
    19 August 2021 12: 32
    Fuck producing and maintaining something that can sink from a couple of missiles?
    1. 0
      19 August 2021 17: 06
      And you try to hit them with rockets. AUG will hit you first from an unattainable distance
  6. 0
    19 August 2021 13: 05
    Recently, the topic of escort aircraft carriers was discussed. Who knows what the movement is on this issue?
    1. 0
      19 August 2021 15: 44
      we went along the path of UDC, look at my dispute with a colleague above
    2. 0
      19 August 2021 17: 43
      UDC, in fact, is an escort light aircraft carrier, but they need aircraft with short or vertical takeoff and landing.
  7. +3
    19 August 2021 15: 09
    I warn you right away ... I am against the construction of aircraft carriers. I read the comments and think .... and that was. At first, everyone scolds the author .... what kind of nonsense is he talking about, how can you refuse AUG, this is childish babble, etc. After 6-8 years, comments will be more careful, I would say, more circumspect ... it is certainly good, but the appearance of new missiles (torpedoes, drones, etc., etc.) changes the situation. And in 20 years, commentators will call the supporters of AUG the dense followers of Marshal Voroshilov, and will sarcastically recall Budyonny's words that a horse is not a stupid piece of iron (a tank) that constantly breaks, the horse has always rescued and will help out.
  8. 0
    19 August 2021 16: 43
    Why does Russia need aircraft carriers?
    1. 123
      -1
      19 August 2021 19: 26
      Why does Russia need aircraft carriers?

      I hope you don't question the need for aviation?
      So she simply needs airfields, an aircraft carrier is an airfield, just a mobile one.
      The need to use aviation may arise in a region where there is no airfield, and not only where they exist and it is more convenient to do it.
      Expecting that such a need will not arise is like looking for a lost wallet under a lantern, because it is lighter there and it is more convenient to do it. You will have to follow it to where you lost it, into dense darkness and it is not at all bad if you have a powerful searchlight with a battery that does not require an outlet.
  9. +1
    19 August 2021 22: 24
    Finally it came to the bosses! A-bearers are just a means of increasing the thickness of stripes at the generals! And in the case - iron coffins!
  10. -2
    20 August 2021 15: 35
    And, they themselves sucked out of the finger the topic - aircraft carriers, now they themselves twist it this way and that.
    Either the AUG container ships will be killed, the Hyper missiles will be sunk, then the newest NEIMANMIRE torpedoes, then 2 UDCs will be secretly altered, or they will not be altered ...
    Do not want to describe something non-existent and incomprehensible, Su 75, drone-IL, nuclear-space tugs, nuclear-destroyer or the end of black earth in Ukraine ...
  11. 0
    20 August 2021 21: 23
    Good stuff with well-defined accents.
    Thanks to the author.

    PS Aircraft carriers, as a class, are dying out with the development of new weapons.

    AUG (and without appropriate escort, an aircraft carrier is just a defenseless self-propelled barge with an air wing on the deck) today is too expensive a toy for the power, not claiming the role of another "hegemon".
  12. 0
    20 August 2021 22: 28
    From the south, they cannot pass the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles without violating the Montreux convention.

    And what prevents to pass, violating the Montreux convention?
  13. 0
    21 August 2021 00: 21
    the answer to the question is very simple. because ... oops naked, and no conspiracy
  14. -2
    21 August 2021 08: 39
    Good article. Everything is said very clearly. Well, GDP is handsome. It just burns.
  15. 0
    21 August 2021 14: 13
    This article is a wail. We do not have an aircraft carrier, and why do we need it, our tsar invented hypersound here, we will have them with this sound! Well, first of all, we had aircraft carriers and heavy aircraft-carrying cruisers, only traitors to the country, they quickly handed them over for metal. the Americans were very afraid of them, and without an escort of ships they could stand up for themselves and deliver a powerful missile strike and shoot back with planes. the author advises us that Russia is a continental country, and we (they) do not need a strong and powerful fleet, and the author does not care that its shores are washed by a couple of oceans and a dozen seas, and in this case, Russia needs a fleet and not from patrol ships crawling 6 miles away zone and occasionally climbing out into the ocean to demonstrate the flag, and the powerful ocean that the USSR had, why do we need such a fleet of Putin's Russia? Putin's Russia, of course, does not need it, but a free, self-sufficient country that is surrounded by NATO needs! A powerful squadron (and more than one) of ships in the ocean is a threat to the enemy's shipping and this threat alone makes many bite their snake tongue, it is a movement control and a threat to the enemy's fleets, which is not unimportant enough to recall the Indo-Pakistani conflict when our fleet did not allow amers to take the side Pakistan, this is control of the areas of deployment of strategic missile submarines of a potential enemy, etc. And finally, about the super duper miracle of Putin's weapon (if you recall his last self-elections, then remember what he boasted about, no, not success in the economy, not raising the living standards of the population, no ... he showed us cartoons about super-duper weapons), with whom he contacted America, yes they have already begun to test their hypersound, and given their potential, both scientific and financial, in a year at most they will have their own similar missiles, and what in the end? The Putin regime, having ditched a lot of money for these missiles, will put us in an even greater threat than it was a few years ago. Why us? Yes, because Putin and Shoigu with their moorings in the bunkers will sit out while we are all wet on top.
  16. 0
    22 August 2021 07: 38
    If anyone is interested, here is my detailed answer to all this orgy
    https://topcor.ru/21233-pochemu-admirala-kuznecova-nelzja-vyvodit-iz-sostava-flota.html
  17. -1
    24 August 2021 13: 39
    We don't need a fleet at all, but we need air defense systems and mobile ground complexes of strategic missiles. And it is too expensive to carry 10 rockets with a hundred fat-faced gold-diggers across the seas with liners of XNUMX missiles! Probably, if you count - every launch in billions rolls out! So the goldsmiths - in the neck, let them eat in the trash heaps! Look, zazhralis, insolent!
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  18. +1
    28 August 2021 18: 12
    Russia now has THREE main aircraft carriers - Crimea, Kaliningrad and Khmeimim.
    It remains to restore only in Cuba!
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  20. 0
    30 March 2023 19: 21
    Rosatom has nuclear reactor engines like icebreakers like Kamchatka. The SSK 'Zvezda' rope and the Goliath GP 1200 t installation crane have been in dry dock at Bolshaya Kamenka for a long time! There are also production facilities. The Americans are blowing up the LNG-2 pipeline. And now Novatek is simply forced to build gas carriers (15 units) on this shipyards. Like this. We're going to take a bow for now. You won't deliver gas where you need it. Specifically, to Europe. To the Baltic States. People will freeze. Otherwise. The US Navy will come with its aircraft carrier and hit Russia up to the tonsils. And the only crane that can mount similar aircraft carriers are stationed at the Zvezda SSC in the Far East in Primorye, which will be occupied for the next 10 years, and in another in Nikolaev in the Chernomorsky shipbuilding plant, where USSR aircraft carriers were assembled.