The Russian competitor of the F-35 is presented: what are its advantages

July 25 2021 29

The main event of the MAKS-2021 air show, undoubtedly, was the presentation of the prototype of the newest Russian light fighter, called Checkmate. The brainchild of the Sukhoi Design Bureau is already called the main competitor to the American F-35. At the same time, it should be noted that these statements are fully justified.

Most of the characteristics of the new domestic fifth-generation machine are, of course, classified. However, something is known.

The single-engine prototype presented at the exhibition has a take-off weight of 18 tons, can reach speeds of up to Mach 2 and reach heights of up to 16,5 km. Based on these characteristics, we can conclude that the aircraft will most likely receive the “Product 30” power plant, which was created for the Su-57.

Also, according to the developer, the effective dispersion area of our fighter will be only 0,001 square meters. m. For comparison, the F-35, this figure is 0,005 square meters. m.

Checkmate surpasses its counterpart in terms of internal capacity. Thus, the F-35 is capable of carrying a payload of up to 4 tons inside the fuselage, while our light fighter "takes on board" almost twice as much.

Finally, it is reported that the brainchild of the Sukhoi Design Bureau will be widely used Technology AI, and its optical sighting system is capable of working equally well on both air and ground targets.

It is worth noting that the prototype presented at the annual event will never go to the troops. This is just a concept on the basis of which single, double and even fully unmanned variants will be created.

The first flight of the production vehicle is scheduled for 2023. At the same time, our aircraft is already arousing genuine interest among foreign customers.

However, this is not surprising. With such impressive characteristics, the Russian Checkmate will cost about $ 30 million per unit. While the price tag of the F-35A reaches 94 million, and the F-35B version will cost 115,5 million dollars at all.

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Brother

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25 July 2021 12: 52

Yes ... "our" vasherashenskie patsreots love to be proud of pictures and layouts. "MEET" is a breakthrough ...
And if you just ask a question? Let's say there was a time when everyone groaned and gasped from the amazingly wonderful "Armata", even the battalion went to parades! And the troops are receiving T72mb3 ...
"Backward totalitarian soviet" for 40 years of superiority in technologies and materials COULD produce TU-40 per year 160 years ago! IN YEAR!
The current advanced menagers and specialists of yours in EVERYTHING ... for 30 years! could! ... roll out the ONLY slightly improved airplane!
Heck, maybe this one isn't bad either! but in the camp where billion-dollar kickbacks are made at cosmodromes ... and the Soviet school of aircraft development, aircraft construction is practically destroyed! The Soviet had it! ten KB ... the current ones are able to "afford" ONLY! ONE! - UAC! And the same with factories ...
Expect it to be reborn out of nowhere! - "WITH GOD'S HELP, Pray!" in a large military house of priests ... not necessary.
1. 123
  
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  25 July 2021 17: 33
  
  And if you just ask a question? Let's say there was a time when everyone groaned and gasped from the amazingly wonderful "Armata", even the battalion went to parades! And the troops are receiving T72mb3 ...
  
  As you already got this lamentations about Armatu. Don't you have enough tanks? Are foreign counterparts younger or superior in some way? Is there an urgent need to rivet a nosebleed by Monday 100500? We made a test batch. Entered the troops. They are testing what they can find out based on the results of operation, modify it, eliminate it and calmly launch it into a series. Do you like the American approach more with the F-35? rivet more, then think?
  
  "Backward totalitarian soviet" for 40 years of superiority in technologies and materials COULD produce TU-40 per year 160 years ago! IN YEAR!
  The current advanced menagers and specialists of yours in EVERYTHING ... for 30 years! could! ... roll out the ONLY slightly improved airplane!
  
  Probably they could, but people with party cards in their pockets about the country ... in general, have polymerized. This process did not pass without a trace, if you noticed, for the aviation industry as well. The production had to be recreated practically from scratch. Let's take a look at the pace of production. forgive me, I will quote the oath of Wikipedia, too lazy to look for data.
  
  Only 35 were produced (27 serial and 8 prototypes).
  
  As I understand it, 2 of them were already in the post-Soviet era. So we remove the prototypes, because they were riveted by dozens of them a year. looking at the beginning of serial production.
  
  In 1984, the Tu-160 was put into serial production at the Kazan Aviation Plant (KAPO). The first production vehicle (No. 1-01) took off on October 10, 1984, the second production vehicle (No. 1-02) on March 16, 1985, the third (No. 2-01) on December 25, 1985, the fourth (No. 2-02 ) - August 15, 1986.
  
  Well, yes, in 1985, as many as two were built, about 9 months for a plane. As it is not observed in dozens a year. Now there is no serial production yet, I do not even know how correct it is to compare the dates.
  Well, okay, let's look further, it turns out from 1987 to 1991 another 21 aircraft were released. On average, more than 5 per year does not come out. Or was there a record year? Was the stream debugged by 1991? Why didn't they rivet dozens at once?
  By the way, the first planes were not slightly modified. They were in a hurry, even the completion of the state tests did not wait. This is exactly what you want to do with Armat ...
  
  The first two Tu-160 aircraft (No. 1-01 and No. 1-02) entered the 184th Guards Heavy Bomber Aviation Regiment in Priluki (Ukrainian SSR) in April 1987. At the same time, the aircraft were transferred to the combat unit before the completion of state tests, which was due to the outstripping pace of the introduction of American B-1 bombers into service.
  
  Heck, maybe this one isn't bad either! but in the camp where billion-dollar kickbacks are made at cosmodromes ... and the Soviet school of aircraft development, aircraft construction is practically destroyed! The Soviet had it! ten KB ... the current ones are able to "afford" ONLY! ONE! - UAC! And the same with factories ...
  
  Somehow kickbacks, for example, on cotton did not prevent the country from building aircraft. Maybe that's not the point? Or did the Soviet government finally overcome crime?
  If the school of aircraft development is practically destroyed, where did the SU-57, MS-21, Superjet, Mi-38, ANSAT, and so on come from? Was it all bought or stolen? And of course a new fighter too? Now the air show is underway, look ... it looks like they haven't destroyed everything.
  
  Expect it to be reborn out of nowhere! - "WITH GOD'S HELP, Pray!" in a large military house of priests ... not necessary.
  
  Do you think the churches will endure, the priests will be consumed and life will get better?
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  26 July 2021 13: 56
  
  the forelock and burr are completely maddened by the novelties of the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation, just a wild howl stands and the glow of blazing dupes on the horizon under each news from the Russian Federation))
Sergey Latyshev

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25 July 2021 13: 53

And, again, noodles.
To compare a bomber jacket 15 years ago and a still flightless model of a fighter - people are fooling ...
They make a fool even with a video intro - there is a photo of some other plane, not the shown SU 57
1. 1_2
  
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  26 July 2021 13: 57
  
  make a fool of you, saying that you will be fed in the EU beggars Germans and French a ha ha
2. Sergey Latyshev
  
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  26 July 2021 14: 01
  
  Wah, Su 75! I wrote the wrong numbers
Cyril

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25 July 2021 14: 56

With such impressive characteristics, the Russian Checkmate will cost about $ 30 million per unit. While the price tag of the F-35A reaches 94 million, and the F-35B version will cost 115,5 million dollars at all.

How much it will cost will be known only after the start of production and deliveries to the troops / customer. The same Su-57 was supposed to be cheap, but for India (while it was participating in joint work) the cost of one copy reached, EMNIP, the same 70-80 million dollars.

For you need to distinguish between the cost for your troops and for a third-party customer. The same Su-30 MKI, which is far from the most modern modification, cost India under one contract $ 60 million, and under the other - more than $ 100 million apiece.

Why would an aircraft, declared as the 5th generation, be cheaper than the 4th generation?

Also, according to the developer, the effective dispersion area of our fighter will be only 0,001 square meters. m. For comparison, the F-35, this figure is 0,005 square meters. m.

EPR depends on the projection. For the F-35, this figure varies from 0,001 to 0,005 in different projections, judging by the data provided by Lockheed Martin.

Checkmate surpasses its counterpart in terms of internal capacity. Thus, the F-35 is capable of carrying a payload of up to 4 tons inside the fuselage, while our light fighter "takes on board" almost twice as much.

As far as I remember, the Russian aircraft also partially carries weapons in the internal compartments, and partially on the external sling. That is, it does not have all the declared more than 7 tons in the internal compartments.
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  26 July 2021 14: 20
  
  they said that the plane would cost 30 million, this is the price for export, so they called the fighter "check and checkmate" expensive hand-made coffins f35, the Chinese have nothing like this and will not have it because they do not have their own engines.
  EPR average f22 (35), su57 -0,3 it depends on the angle of irradiation, the minimum value of EPR when the aircraft is irradiated from the front, and the radar and the aircraft are on the same axis, which is impossible in battle, the radiation from the side immediately increases the EPR f22,35 several times, 90, for example, when irradiated at an angle of 75 degrees, the EPR is already several meters. su5 carries 3 missiles, in the lower compartment 2 pcs and in the side compartments 57 pcs, and in the side compartments they can be both near and middle ones, you can also install a composite compartment under the wing for a near missile (as on su7), in total we get 5 missiles! 2 medium and 35 close ones, at f4 there are only 75 missiles, plus the combat radius of the su-2 is almost 22 times greater than that of f75. also on the su-57, you can install the AFAR SU2, and he sees 22 times farther than the f22 radar ... in short, it is check and checkmate f30 ... and for only 300 million, I think there will be dozens of countries in line for such an aircraft, so that the projected sales of 5 pieces can be increased XNUMX times
  1. Cyril
    
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    26 July 2021 14: 31
    
    said that the plane will cost 30 million, this is the price for export,
    
    So I ask, where does such a price come from, if not the newest modification of the 4 generations, which has long been worked out and launched into a series, costs from 50 to 100 million dollars for export?
    
    that's why they called the fighter "check and checkmate" to expensive handicrafts-coffins Ф35,
    
    A small clarification: "expensive handicrafts-coffins" actually fly, are actually sold and are actually bought.
    
    Su-57 years ago, they also predicted the fate of "F-5 killers", which will enjoy unprecedented demand on the international market due to its low price.
    
    Do you see a lot of the Su-57 in service with the troops of other countries?
    
    in short, this is check and checkmate f22 ...
    
    F-22?)) So the new Russian fighter cannot compete with it on the market :)
    
    and for only 30 million, I think there will be dozens of countries in line for such an aircraft, so the projected sales of 300 units can be increased 5 times
    
    We will wait and see, of course, but it is better to talk about it after the fact.
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      26 July 2021 14: 57
      
      the price is 30 million, because it is assembled from ready-made kits su57, they spent a penny on R&D su75, and all the main expensive work was done on digital using supercomputers and Ross software, now it is undergoing static tests (glider) to confirm the calculated characteristics, and if they will confirm the plane will be launched into the air
      1. Cyril
        
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        26 July 2021 15: 02
        
        the price is 30 million, because it is assembled from ready-made sets of su57,
        
        We will see
        
        now it is undergoing static tests (glider) to confirm the calculated characteristics, and if they are confirmed, the aircraft will be launched into the air
        
        So, maybe, after they are confirmed, and it is necessary to loudly declare that "our plane will kill this fat penguin"?
Binder

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25 July 2021 16: 39

It is worth summing up the results of the latest advertising campaign with a demonstration of an exhibition layout of a non-existent fifth-generation fighter. This is another mediocre attempt by the Russian agitprop to present the case in such a way that the public has a feeling that modern weapons are being produced in Russia that are not inferior to Western counterparts. In reality, the action achieved the result opposite to the plan of its organizers, once again highlighting the helplessness of modern Russian science and the industrial sphere.
1. Stanislav Bykov
  
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  25 July 2021 17: 42
  
  the helplessness of modern Russian science and production.
  
  Russian schoolchildren took all the "gold" of the International Physics Olympiad
  The 51st International Physics Olympiad (IPhO 2021), held in Lithuania, ended with a complete victory for Russian schoolchildren.
  All the "gold" of the Olympiad, 5 gold medals - in the hands of the Russian team. Here are the names of the winners: Matvey Knyazev (P. L. Kapitsa Physics and Technology Lyceum, Dolgoprudny), Nikolai Kononenko (School No. 57, Moscow), Denis Ismagilov (P. L. Kapitsa Physics and Technology Lyceum, Dolgoprudny), Artemy Novikov (Baumanskaya engineering school No. 1580, Moscow), Danila Samodelkin (School No. 2007 FMS, Moscow).
  
  Besides:
  
  Six awards were received by members of the Russian team at the International Mathematical Olympiad, TASS reports. Of these, two times Russian schoolchildren became winners and four times remained one step away from victory.
  
  Danila Demin from Sochi and Alexey Lvov from Novosibirsk became the winners of gold medals. Muscovites Ivan Gaidai-Turlov, Anton Sadovnichy, St. Petersburg resident Maksim Turevsky and a resident of Kazan Danil Sibgatullin won silver medals for the national team.
  
  Our team became the second in the medal standings, leaving ahead of the Chinese rivals. Representative of the People's Republic of China Jinmin Li was named the absolute winner.
  Schoolchildren from more than a hundred countries, more than six hundred people in total, entered the fight for the awards.
  
  And also:
  
  Russian schoolchildren won three gold and one silver medals at the XXXIII International Olympiad in Informatics, which took place in a distance format in Singapore. This was reported in the Telegram channel of the Big Change project.
  “The strongest national teams of the USA, China and Singapore have the same number of medals,” the message says.
  
  What do you dislike about Russian science in light of this news?
  1. Binder
    
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    25 July 2021 20: 42
    
    Quote: Stanislav Bykov
    What do you dislike about Russian science in light of this news?
    
    This news does not have any significant relation to science. Moreover, there are enough such news in other countries: "Israeli high school students won 6 medals at the International Mathematical Olympiad (IMO) this year." The following are the names of students and schoolchildren. establishments exactly like yours. This is today's message from CURSORINFO and we have such news almost every day. So what? There is a long way from a talented student to a scientific worker. And it’s not a fact that these talented Russian schoolchildren will wish to stay and work in Russia after graduation. In the department of a reputable American company, which is headed by my son-in-law, people from different countries work, including natives of the republics of the former USSR.
    1. Stanislav Bykov
      
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      25 July 2021 23: 54
      
      This news does not have any significant relation to science.
      
      Science cannot exist without quality education in addition to talent, and schoolchildren from "backward countries" do not win international competitions
      
      In the department of a reputable American company, which is headed by my son-in-law, people from different countries work, including natives of the republics of the former USSR.
      
      I would not be surprised if these natives of the republics of the former USSR took place as specialists in Russia
      1. Cyril
        
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        26 July 2021 15: 50
        
        and schoolchildren from "backward countries" do not win in international competitions
        
        They actually win. Less often, but win. In the same international Olympiad in mathematics, prizes were also taken by participants from Romania, for example. Do you know a lot about Romania's scientific breakthroughs?
        
        Now I'm not trying to justify Bindyuzhnik's words - here I also disagree with him. But you have not chosen the best argument.
        
        Stanislav Bykov
        
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        28 July 2021 04: 11
        
        participants from Romania
        
        With all due respect to Romania, the potential and capabilities (scientific) in comparison with Russia, to put it mildly, are not comparable, even taking into account the fact that they managed to win something
        
        Do you know a lot about Romania's scientific breakthroughs?
        
        I have no idea, but I know about the scientific breakthrough of Russian scientists in the field of materials science, as a result of which Russia received the same "Avangard"
        
        Cyril
        
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        28 July 2021 10: 58
        
        With all due respect to Romania, the potential and capabilities (scientific) in comparison with Russia, to put it mildly, are not comparable, even taking into account the fact that they managed to win something
        
        That's what I'm talking about. But you used winning the Olympics as an argument in the dispute.
trampoline instructor

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25 July 2021 16: 41

while our light fighter "takes on board" almost twice as much.

Our light fighter, or rather, its layout, instead of a side takes so far only a show-off.
1. Cyril
  
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  28 July 2021 20: 48
  
  Best comment in this news
steelmaker

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25 July 2021 18: 54

Not built yet, but ready to sell. They are in a hurry. I want money, there is no place to spend the night! If this prototype took off for the show, then I think the bargaining has gone. MC-21 was shown for the first time in 2016, T-14 in 2015, so judge for yourself when and what.
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  26 July 2021 14: 24
  
  hundreds of Armata are being tested in the army
  Aeroflot will receive the first MC21 in 22
AND

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25 July 2021 19: 30

Is the serpentine kudlo reassembled? Soras' navalnata gathered again: Latvian earring, cyril, bandage worker, steelmaker. Not even surprised by all this one face duplicating each other. Just like a negotiated match. As usual, fairy tales for curators. Russia is always weak and bad with them. What are you doing here proteges of America. Enough arrows to translate nigative people.
1. steelmaker
  
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  26 July 2021 17: 25
  
  As usual fairy tales for curators
  
  You didn’t read those fairy tales as a child, and you watch the wrong films. What is the strength of a sneak?
  
  "It was proposed to simplify the export of platinum and rare metals from Russia"
  https://kapital-rus.ru/articles/article/vyvoz_platiny_i_redkih_metallov_iz_rossii_predlojili_uprostit/
  
  We do not just buy imported machines - we buy a huge number of imported machines. Judge for yourself (approximate alignment in recent years):
  
  rubber processing machines - 100% import,
  plastics processing machines - 99% import,
  optical glass processing machines - 100% import,
  machines for processing ordinary glass - 90% import,
  stone processing machines - 90% import,
  woodworking machines - 80% import ...
  
  And what is yours with Putin? I did not give examples about housing and communal services, prices, pensions, gasoline, work. And who benefits from this mess in Russia? And who is the curator and protege of America here?
AND

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25 July 2021 19: 37

Quote: Bindyuzhnik
It is worth summing up the results of the latest advertising campaign with a demonstration of an exhibition layout of a non-existent fifth-generation fighter. This is another mediocre attempt by the Russian agitprop to present the case in such a way that the public has a feeling that modern weapons are being produced in Russia that are not inferior to Western counterparts. In reality, the action achieved the result opposite to the plan of its organizers, once again highlighting the helplessness of modern Russian science and the industrial sphere.

Well, nonsense ... What a Jewish propagandist himself built in his life. Since you are looking at Russian sites and developments, it means that it is interesting !!! And your propaganda is not worth a dime. Your Israel is a thief who tapped everyone on the phone, watch the news. So you are not sitting here in vain ... Study the novelties of Russia further American fellow. Sabaka barks, the caravan moves on.
AND

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25 July 2021 23: 07

Quote: Bindyuzhnik
Quote: Stanislav Bykov
What do you dislike about Russian science in light of this news?

This news does not have any significant relation to science. Moreover, there are enough such news in other countries: "Israeli high school students won 6 medals at the International Mathematical Olympiad (IMO) this year." The following are the names of students and schoolchildren. establishments exactly like yours. This is today's message from CURSORINFO and we have such news almost every day. So what? There is a long way from a talented student to a scientific worker. And it’s not a fact that these talented Russian schoolchildren will wish to stay and work in Russia after graduation. In the department of a reputable American company, which is headed by my son-in-law, people from different countries work, including natives of the republics of the former USSR.

There are people in the department of a reputable American firm run by my son-in-law. So this is where the sabaka is buried ... You are a storyteller. The talker smells like a little boy. You work out badly pennies!
Marzhecki

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26 July 2021 07: 16

Quote: AND
There are people in the department of a reputable American firm, which is headed by my son-in-law. So this is where the sabaka is buried ... You are a storyteller. The talker smells like a little boy.

It smells different here, much more unpleasant
AND

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29 July 2021 21: 27

Quote: steel maker
As usual fairy tales for curators

You didn’t read those fairy tales as a child, and you watch the wrong films. What is the strength of a sneak?

"It was proposed to simplify the export of platinum and rare metals from Russia"
https://kapital-rus.ru/articles/article/vyvoz_platiny_i_redkih_metallov_iz_rossii_predlojili_uprostit/

We do not just buy imported machines - we buy a huge number of imported machines. Judge for yourself (approximate alignment in recent years):

rubber processing machines - 100% import,
plastics processing machines - 99% import,
optical glass processing machines - 100% import,
machines for processing ordinary glass - 90% import,
stone processing machines - 90% import,
woodworking machines - 80% import ...

And what is yours with Putin? I did not give examples about housing and communal services, prices, pensions, gasoline, work. And who benefits from this mess in Russia? And who is the curator and protege of America here?

Since such a "smart" .... Go to the presidency and not a balabol. Does your tongue hurt, patriotic provocateur?
BoBot Robot - Free Thinking Machine

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1 August 2021 22: 53

need to sell it to the Chinese - take Taiwan