"The decline of imperial ambitions": Americans on the newest Russian fighter


Readers of the American resource The Drive commented on the images of the previously unknown Russian fifth-generation fighter, which appeared on the Internet the day before. More than four hundred responses were left in total.


In a detailed analytical note accompanying the available photographs, the publication itself noted that funding is a key issue. It is for this reason that the Russian Federation is conducting an advertising campaign to attract potential partners from abroad.

Comments are presented selectively:

Almost all fifth-generation aircraft look the same - these are the requirements of modern combat aircraft [...]

- pointed out WreckInspector.

A very interesting development. Moreover, it looks exactly like a flying prototype, and not like a mock-up. Although it is obvious that its first flight will not take place at the air show [...]

- Darth_Squishy comments.

The question is not how it looks, but why it even exists. The Russians hardly have the money to buy even the Su-57, so why waste their limited resources developing another aircraft?

- expressed his amazement to CodingPhysicist.

The aircraft has relatively modest dimensions, which indicates a small combat radius. I'm curious if it has one or two motors

- pointed out TDub.

Is it some kind of Soviet development again? Will they build 6 of them again and calm down?

Ragnarredbeard taunts.

[…] If it becomes cheap enough, the West will face enormous problems in the Middle East, Latin America, and other troubled regions. I believe that Russia will try to export fighters to the opponents of the West [...]. I can think of at least 3 regions where this will complicate the current or possible Western military campaign.

- suggested Imti_.

[...] Russia has already lost its only and largest partner in the aerospace industry - India, and only because it cannot deliver quality goods on time. Who, then, are they going to finance the production of the new aircraft? Most of the countries of the Middle East are in America's pocket, while everyone else is more comfortable working with the Chinese, who are able to deliver goods on time and at low cost. Russia is showing the decline of its imperial ambitions. It really looks a pity, for they could have achieved more if they had not returned to their long-obsolete projects.

- responded to a previous comment by Charles Spratlin.
  • Photos used: Rostec / v3tritium / vk.com / club57490994
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  2. lime Offline lime
    lime (Lime) 17 July 2021 11: 42
    -4
    This is the F-35, which two years ago a Japanese pilot hijacked to Russia (which allegedly suffered an accident in the Japanese sea and which has not yet been found), and now, after a full study, the time has come for a "presentation", which was called in a mocking form for the West - "Knight's move".
  3. Igor Berg Offline Igor Berg
    Igor Berg (Igor Berg) 17 July 2021 15: 52
    -12%
    Reviews, as they say, are not in the eyebrow, but in the eye. Especially the 3rd and last reviews.
    1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
      Ulysses (Alexey) 17 July 2021 21: 48
      -1
      Your spenazers have been stocked up again.
      They took away their weapons and stripped them naked.

      Israeli media are silent.
      Censorship, panim you ???
    2. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 18 July 2021 20: 30
      +4
      Reviews, as they say, are not in the eyebrow, but in the eye. Especially the 3rd and last reviews.

      In the eyebrow ... in the eye ... How are you talking about high ... It's strange, you prefer to look under their tail.
    3. Igor Kopeetsky Offline Igor Kopeetsky
      Igor Kopeetsky (Igor Kopeetsky) 20 July 2021 10: 13
      0
      You're right . These are the most illiterate.
  4. Strag Offline Strag
    Strag (Alexander) 17 July 2021 16: 12
    +7
    )) Hello everyone. It is immediately clear in what kind of zombie vacuum the West lives. Has India given up the weapons of the Russian Federation? let at least look at the statistics of purchases from the Russian Federation and other purchases. the second fake of the Russian Federation uses only the developments of the USSR)) for the Russian Federation and Armata and SU 57 these are new developments and the engines are one of the best in the world! already stealth fake does not pedal? although they might have forgotten, I think in the west they did not write that our "all Vedimka" SU57 flew through all the NATO bases and were not noticed). the third fake is that no one buys and due to what develops new technologies, we all work for food, we do not need orders)) on the Internet, open access to whom and what the Russian Federation has put may open your eyes. but the comment that wakes up cheaper and wakes up popular is yes !!! it was made for the rapid build-up of air regiments. replace the old moment 29, su27. SU57 is not a mass unit, it wakes up the flying headquarters under the hunter. and the bulk of it wakes up a new single-engine. well, for export sales, since the SU57 is in no hurry to sell the Russian Federation with a new engine. Well, in general, it soon wakes up for sure it is known from this typewriter, but 2 years ago there was a conversation for this.
    1. Strange war Offline Strange war
      Strange war (Vasya) 17 July 2021 20: 33
      +8
      Those comments are clearly not of Western, but of post-Soviet origin and propaganda - most likely Khokhlo-Jewish - this is their style. Well, judging by the promotion, the plane is created mainly for export. But those who, of course, will not buy it near America, and those who are not near America are homeless, they cannot afford a real fifth-generation fighter (except perhaps a dummy), there remains only China, which is enough to buy 10-12 pieces, copy everything (this is their tradition), to call a heavenly fire dragon some kind of Sunhuyvchaev and he will calm down.
      1. unholyknight Offline unholyknight
        unholyknight (UnhloyKnight) 18 July 2021 01: 02
        +3
        And they again shove the engine from the MiG-29? Or the AL-31 from the Su-27, as on your vaunted J-20? Theirs, they normally did not go into the series, the postponement is even worse than with Product-30.
      2. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 18 July 2021 20: 45
        +3
        Here are just those who, of course, will not buy it near America, and those who are not near America are homeless, they cannot afford a real fifth-generation fighter (except perhaps a dummy)

        Algeria as a traditional buyer, Vietnam (because they don’t like the Chinese neighborhood), Egypt (if the sheikhs donate money), but they can throw it up, but they can buy it themselves. The Americans don't sell their own, but they want to push on a new car. And even more so if Iran takes, as far as I remember, the embargo has expired. Who knows, maybe the Turkish Sultan will pull up after that. By the way, India should not be deleted from the list either, the Chinese, that is, so they need to.
        In general, to say that there are no buyers at all, in my opinion, is not entirely correct. Let's see how it will be.
    2. Ugr Offline Ugr
      Ugr 19 July 2021 06: 23
      -1
      You should go to school, there are so many spelling mistakes in your text, learn Russian so that you can write texts without mistakes ...
    3. Elen_msk Offline Elen_msk
      Elen_msk (Elena Belyakova) 20 July 2021 04: 39
      0
      Well, at least you would write normally, otherwise it was as if you climbed out of the basement
  5. Eduard Aplombov Offline Eduard Aplombov
    Eduard Aplombov (Eduard Aplombov) 17 July 2021 19: 26
    +7
    I don't even want to answer, but in Russia there are problems, they steal, fools are in power, roads are still not everywhere, but the potential at the same time does not look like an example of the United States and their defense complex, they steal there so that the whole world did not dream, and there are problems with Boeing, ships do not float, F35 is crude and expensive, but I don't even mention hyperweapons
    and now the losers are sitting in boxes under the bridge and trying to attack, like their brothers from Israel with a dubious genome of a Jew
    if you are so smart and strong try to enter an armed conflict, even sleeping boxes will not remain
    1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
      Just a cat (Bayun) 17 July 2021 19: 47
      +4
      they can only enter the dog's G near their box ...
  6. Kofesan Offline Kofesan
    Kofesan (Valery) 18 July 2021 05: 58
    +3
    There is some truth in the statements of the "American resource The Drive". The share, frankly, is clearly smelly. But the truth is seen from afar. All the same. It may very well be that in new, even local wars, so many planes will not be required, which are now stamped by the "rich" West.

    It is possible, and the word "possibly" means - that this is most likely a matter of simply military mathematical logic. Example? Well, for example, a theoretical conflict over Ukraine ...
    On the first day, 20-50 Western aircraft are shot down within a radius of up to 1000 km from the perimeter of its borders ...? How? By what means? How is this possible? ... It's none of your business - gentlemen from Drivе. But that's exactly how it will be ...!

    Everything! For them (and not only the "warrior" from The Drive, but also the admirals and generalissimos of NATO and Israel), this is enough to put their entire air force fleet at bay within a radius of 5000 miles for months! And if land successes follow, then request an armistice. And also to move the Air Force fleet 5000 km from the borders of the conflict ... There is no doubt that this will be the case and is not even discussed. This is an axiom.

    And the narrow-minded "readers" of DRIVE bring this theoretical "day" closer as they can ...
    1. shinobi Offline shinobi
      shinobi (Yuri) 18 July 2021 08: 09
      +3
      When the Turks shot down our 24, one threat of response was enough for NATO to get its planes out of harm's way (in fact, they shy away from our fighters so far), and all the Turkish Air Force sat around the bases like a mouse under a broom.
      1. Kofesan Offline Kofesan
        Kofesan (Valery) 18 July 2021 22: 41
        +3
        Why cool? The combat radius of the С300, and С400 ... more than 1000 km. How much more - no one knows. Even calculations. He sees at a much greater distance. So the question is why the Israelis, for example, have missiles twice "thinner" and "shorter"? Just don't talk about the "genius" of Jewish engineers. This is not for you, but in general ... And now they will run to "trample" .. I apologize - I was distracted.
        And to sum it up: no super-duper NATO aircraft has a chance over Europe. And even a hundred. In case of conflict, crawl on the ground ...

        1. shinobi Offline shinobi
          shinobi (Yuri) 19 July 2021 08: 55
          +1
          That is so, but it hurts a lot of them. They can stupidly crush with a mass. The number of missiles is still not infinite.
          1. Kofesan Offline Kofesan
            Kofesan (Valery) 19 July 2021 18: 23
            +1
            Woooot! ... "Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye." But ... How much is "a lot"? And who has more? ... missiles, for each of them? , or shock "flyers" ?, capable of leading to chaos in the management of resistance, and then possible retaliatory strikes?

            Or, if you remember about drones, ... the latter are still calmly withdrawn from combat by means of electronic warfare ...

            Well, yes, this is what is hidden behind seven seals. But it is also true that there is a tendency to the loss of competencies in the possibility of full-fledged resistance! At least on the territory of the disputed states.

            And although no one attacks KimChenIrov either, they squeezed him so that in any future he and his country are losers.
            1. shinobi Offline shinobi
              shinobi (Yuri) 20 July 2021 02: 59
              +1
              They have a lot of iron. Actually, in 80 NATO played a massive breakthrough of our air defense and came to the conclusion that the losses would amount to 90% of the aircraft fleet. After that, it began to rush with the idea of ​​"oversaturation" of our defense with small-sized kamikaze drones. It was worn until 2014. periodic bursts of activity, but these are rather the last convulsions.
  7. shinobi Offline shinobi
    shinobi (Yuri) 18 July 2021 08: 13
    +6
    They have the first stage of accepting the inevitable - denial. Everything is as usual. So it was with the Armata, Poseidon, Peresvet, Su-57 and much more. They are very offended.
  8. 1536 Offline 1536
    1536 (Eugene) 18 July 2021 12: 10
    +2
    If during its 1000-year existence Russia had "imperial ambitions", the whole world would now speak Russian. All that Russia and its people want, so that they do not interfere with us and do not meddle in our affairs, as they say, in a strange monastery with their own "charter", do not covet our land and its riches. And for this, even five planes are sometimes enough. And it doesn't matter that soon everyone who is not lazy will fly to and from work on the F-35. The bottom line will not change from this: we have defensive weapons, while the US and NATO have offensive weapons, designed for a war against Russia.
  9. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
    Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 18 July 2021 12: 40
    -4
    And the F35 and F22 are already flying and there are HUNDREDS of copies!
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 18 July 2021 20: 51
      +3
      And the F35 and F22 are already flying and there are HUNDREDS of copies!

      Only now the F-22 has not been produced for 10 years. There are also problems with the production of the F-35.
      1. Kedrovich Offline Kedrovich
        Kedrovich (Alexa980) 19 July 2021 02: 24
        +3
        The F-35 is exactly "fly". And they try not far. And it was even scary to drive such a "cool" all-weather fighter across the ocean because of the weather. Extremely raw. One NATO pilot in Europe was killed on it. He's not bad. It's too raw and expensive. And the fact that hundreds of such shit have been stamped will not make the weather.
      2. Alexander K_2 Offline Alexander K_2
        Alexander K_2 (Alexander K) 19 July 2021 18: 18
        0
        You're right. Can you have information on how many centuries THIS plane will fly, and after how many DECADES will at least 10 (ten) SU-57s be produced?
        1. 123 Offline 123
          123 (123) 19 July 2021 21: 06
          -1
          You're right. Can you have information on how many centuries THIS plane will fly, and after how many DECADES will at least 10 (ten) SU-57s be produced?

          Don't worry, it will go into production faster than An-148. But you have to be patient. The first 10 will stretch for at least 2-3 years. I think no more than 4 planes a year. In addition to problems with debugging the production process, there is one more circumstance. It is less costly to make planes with a new engine right away. Judging by the latest photos, a new engine is on the way. This means that things will go faster further.
  10. Oleg Ermakov Offline Oleg Ermakov
    Oleg Ermakov (Oleg Ermakov) 18 July 2021 13: 15
    +1
    but they only comment on the noodles that their media hung on them, they have no real information, they don't even know about their EF16, which is actually worse than our 4th generation dryers, they are sooooo expensive, not even in buying, but in obsdug, one F16 at a cost of 10 su-35s, by the way the Pentagon generals complained a lot about this.
  11. Alexander Popov Offline Alexander Popov
    Alexander Popov (Alexander Popov) 19 July 2021 09: 00
    0
    They are waiting for investments from abroad, but for which country was the plane created?