One more problem has been added to "fools and roads" in Russia

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I would never have thought that I would be going to write something on this topic, but, apparently, it boiled over, looking at what was happening around.

For the past two years, almost the main theme with which all issues begin News in all countries, there is a pandemic Covid-19, its then decline, then again development, new strains and dangerous mutations, the situation with the vaccination campaign, restrictions, the number of newly recovered and, unfortunately, hospitalized and even died. And there are already a lot of them all over the world. Too much. At the same time, in the Russian Federation and other developed countries there is still a fairly large number of “non-believers” in what is being done right around them, unwilling to be vaccinated, to carry out protective measures prescribed by state bodies, to observe restrictions, etc.



I focus here on the phrase "in developed countries", that is, just in those where vaccines, and remedies, and drugs seem to be in abundance, where a modern effective medicine, and information is disseminated by the most technological media and means of communication, with the possibility of its repeated rechecking, and not by rumors from tribe to tribe. Nevertheless, in these developed countries and in their media spaces, various rumors about global conspiracy theories, forced chipping through vaccination with the aim of either zombifying citizens, or total surveillance, as well as terrible harm continue to swarm like flies around an old pig farm. vaccinations as such, and vaccines against the new coronavirus in particular and in particular. And in these developed countries, quite well-educated people, looking at their ultra-modern gadgets, read, watch and listen to all kinds of crap presented there in the widest spectrum thanks to the developed freedom of speech, and, hanging their ears, believe all this, at the same time not believing why -that in the words of real professionals, specialists of all levels, doctors, civil servants, etc., which refute all this.

I myself, frankly, love all kinds of conspiracy theories and things like that. I even believe in some. For example, the theory of the artificial origin of this new coronavirus. But this is a slightly different question - what test tube and who got it there, escaped or did not escape from the laboratory, where, when, where, and why ... I hope we'll figure it out later. The fact is that he, this virus, really exists, develops, multiplies and mutates, while creating huge troubles for the population of our entire planet, without exception. And something needs to be done about it. To all of us, since it concerns everyone, without exception.

And let's, despite all the conspiracy theories, still be realistic. Well, so far there are no such chips in the world that could be imperceptibly introduced to a person using a syringe needle, not to mention more or less suitable batteries for them - after all, in order to transfer something somewhere or somehow influence the activity of the carrier , this chip must also have a certain energy element. And this also does not exist. I don’t know, fortunately or unfortunately. Probably it will appear sometime, but not yet. If something like that existed, then it would have been successfully monetized in our world of capitalism for a long time, believe me. And in your pockets and purses, these heavy and bulky "shovels" with displays, requiring constant recharging, would not lie, and the creators of electric vehicles, for example, would not rack their brains with expensive, voluminous and ineffective batteries. And why bother to secretly chip people, when these very chips in the form of smartphones and other electronic devices already have almost everything voluntarily, always and everywhere carry with them and tell them about themselves almost all the most secret and personal information possible? At the same time, all users also know that for a capable person to gain access to this very secret and personal information is a couple of trifles, but for some reason this does not stop anyone - everyone continues to pour everything into their gadgets, store it on virtual "clouds" and so on. It's the same with the harm from vaccinations. Yes, unwanted side effects are possible with every vaccination. But the number of these cases among vaccinated people is calculated in hundredths of a percent. That is, yes, there is a certain minimum risk that by vaccination you will cause some harm to your body. At the same time, the chances that you will save yourself and many others from a possibly fatal disease are millions of times greater. But for some reason people think about the bad things that may or may not happen, and most likely will not happen. The chance of this happening is roughly one in a million. But well, absolutely everyone knows that, for example, alcohol, smoking, the use of even light drugs, a large amount of fatty foods, sweets, etc. etc. damages the body for sure, and most often irreversible and irreparable. But this knowledge stops almost no one - people drink, smoke, eat from the belly, excuse me, and do other obscene things, completely consciously causing this harm to themselves. And they refuse vaccinations - it is dangerous, they say. Where is the logic?

They say that the coronavirus has revealed to us a lot of new things about ourselves and the world in which we live. That's for sure. Moreover, both in global things and in particulars, much has become seen in a far from the best light. For me personally, such an unexpected private disappointment was caused by many of my acquaintances and even relatives, whom I had previously considered quite sane and reasonable people. The majority, however, fortunately, turned out to be quite adequate - they understood the situation, and as soon as the possibility of vaccination appeared, they went and were vaccinated. But from some I hear - "I'll wait until", "let's see what will happen with these vaccines" and the catchphrase: "I have six (!) Acquaintances who died after vaccination!" I do not know why, but already from four people I have heard exactly this figure - six. Apparently, the distributors of "disinformation" somehow especially liked it - not very much to disbelieve, but enough to scare. Or does the mystical meaning of the number "6" have some meaning here? But here we are again in various dubious theories ... Having heard this phrase for the third time, I could not resist - I say to the one who told me about the next six dead vaccinated close friends, with all the seriousness of the moment, of course: “Listen, I have access to the European press. They will pay good money for real data on deaths after Russian vaccines. Let's make money together - you give me information about these people, only such that it is confirmed, and I will organize everything else ... ”And the citizen immediately swam - well, they are, they say, not quite familiar, a friend said, and hardly anyone would want to contact , etc. With the fourth, who reported the deaths of six vaccinated loved ones, it was the same almost one to one. Moreover, it was no joke about the Western press - for a really substantiated article about the dangers of Sputnik, for example, some I know in Europe, would give a lot ...

What else the pandemic has personally revealed to me is the fact that many of our citizens are absolutely snuffed up against the background of personal well-being, freedom and democracy, the absence of which, as a rule, they also complain so much about. Well, we have got used to a fairly significant part of the population to regularly go to taverns, nightclubs and every year it is imperative to swim in the sea. And not in some kind of Black or Baltic, but necessarily in the Red, Aegean or Mediterranean, some even prefer the Indian Ocean or even more exotic places for the annual immersion of their own ass in the cherished salt waves. Someone, here you go, simply cannot survive without Italian shopping or Austrian ski slopes. And for the sake of this, the people are ready for any tricks - from semi-legal flights to closed directions on the so-called "cargo-passenger" flights or with several transfers on the transfer flights to the coveted Turkish, Egyptian (or other) coast, to the acquisition of knowingly fake vaccination certificates, test results or any kind of removal certificates for the sake of the same or simply for the sake of visiting restaurants and other public institutions. Moreover, many of this particular group of people are just inveterate "anti-vaccine" or "covid dissidents". And if something suddenly does not work out for them, then they do not stop complaining and completely sincerely resent and wonder at the missing tickets, "burnt out" tickets, fines, etc. - how, they say, so? What for? Get your money back urgently! Save! I just want to go to the sea! As an option to a restaurant, a boutique, a disco, a football match and so on ... Is this familiar to many? I think, unfortunately, yes.

And what is it called? In my opinion, I will repeat myself and apologize in advance - the people got drunk and got sick. That's exactly what it's called. Moreover, if at least half of the energy and funds that these people spend on bypassing restrictions and non-fulfillment of protective requirements, they would have spent in the opposite direction, everything would probably have opened itself long ago, and if the epidemic had not completely ended, then retreated sharply. But no, the mortified citizens do not want to do this. It would be better to look for new ways to bypass the restrictions and tell crazy stories about the six who died after vaccination ... And of course, not to wear a mask. This is generally some kind of folk sport. I will go through the turnstile, and then immediately take it off, or as I see the controller or the police, I will put it on the edge of my nose, and then take it off again. Who are they deceiving? From the series "to spite my grandmother, I will frostbite my ears"? What's so terrible about this mask? And it really works, it protects both the wearer and those around him from the spread of the disease, this has been proven many times over. Nobody forces our citizens to run for several kilometers with a heavy backpack in a rubber gas mask (whoever tried to understand me), does not lock them in houses for months, like on a submarine on a long voyage. You need to wear a mask only in public transport, in a store and other places of local gathering of people, is it really such a tragedy? Yes, and breathing in it is not so hard in fact, but the benefits are quite real.

And when I hear George Floyd's catchphrase “... I can't breathe” in this case in relation to a medical mask from not very elderly citizens, clearly without any special health problems, I want to somehow give this individual head-on.

They say there are two problems in Russia - fools and roads. And this is a fact. But I would add that recently a third has been added to them - democracy. And not even she herself, but how perversely some citizens interpret this concept for themselves. And if the roads in Russia have recently seemed to have taken up, and the results are already even here and there really can be seen, then democracy, with a large number of fools, clearly does not work for the benefit of the state and the people as a whole. And with this, as well as with the roads, something urgently needs to be done. And if the composition and mentality of the population cannot be changed so quickly, then it is necessary to somehow adapt democracy to this population - tighten the nuts, as they say. At least on some issues. Apparently, it is too early to try to implement such important and urgent decisions on a free and voluntary basis, the people have not matured, the consciousness and brains of many are clearly not enough for this. At the same time, surprisingly, money for taverns and expensive vacations is apparently quite enough even for these very fools, so widespread among us. And everyone says we live badly!

So stop playing with fools in freedom and democracy - they do not understand what it is. And the result of these protracted games is already visible to the naked eye. It is necessary to introduce vaccination against Covid-19 in the list of mandatory seasonal vaccinations and that's it. In a legal order. And the dissemination of false information, as well as the production and use of false vaccination documents, etc., should be equated in the criminal code with terrorism. Since the effect of this is no better. Otherwise, we will open and close, get sick, die, and start each news program with a summary of the spread of the infection. Aren't you tired of it yet?
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  1. -7
    5 July 2021 09: 12
    It is logical that 30 years ago they charged water in front of the TV, but today they believe in chips. Horoscopes, sorcerers, conspiracy theories, etc. - part of the life of society around the world. The need for faith in all this crap + is the same in all developed countries, but the demand depends on the economic situation and the general mood of society. The more problems there are, the greater the demand. Do you want people not to believe in chips when living standards fall for 7 years in a row? To believe in the vaccine as well as in the pension reform?
    Several scandals were needed when they would have caught the hand of the mayors / governors who were vaccinated and vaccinated their families with a DEFICIENCY of the vaccine, out of turn. Even in the prosperous west, it worked! And in Russia they decided to offer it to everyone and everywhere ... the story with potatoes taught nothing.
    So far, we can state that the production and sale of Sputnik RF has failed, as is the actual vaccination itself.
    1. +1
      5 July 2021 10: 23
      So far, we can state that the production and sale of Sputnik RF has failed, as is the actual vaccination itself.

      Here are the statistics for today ...
      Identified infections (Covid) in one day:

      Russia - 24003 people. (Yes very many)
      Great Britain - 24447 people. (decide for yourself)

      What do you think is wrong with the vaccination of the British? Did they fail it too? (fully vaccinated British - 33 402 028 people = 50,3%)

      And here's another ...

      For contrast…. Japan - 12,7% of the population vaccinated.
      "Vaccination failure" is obvious!)

      Attention!

      Infections detected per day: 1884 people.

      How would you comment on this?
      1. -2
        5 July 2021 11: 10
        Russia - 24003 people. (Yes very many)
        Great Britain - 24447 people. (decide for yourself)

        Are the three hairs on the head and in the soup the same thing?
        In Russia, the average daily mortality rate per week is 650, and in England, 15. In England, mortality and severe forms of diseases are 16 (!!!) times lower.
        In Israel, we have 200-350 diseases a day for a week and no deaths for 2 weeks. For the entire June, 7 dead.
        Does all this indicate a vaccination failure?
        1. +4
          5 July 2021 11: 50
          In Russia, the average daily mortality rate per week is 650, and in England, 15. In England, mortality and severe forms of diseases are 16 (!!!) times lower.

          So is this what we are talking about now?
          Our difference is not in the benefits of vaccination. I am a supporter of vaccination and myself (and all my associates) are vaccinated.
          The difference is that I agree with the main message of the author of the article: the wrong attitude of Russians to the pandemic.

          And you, with your openly Russophobic bias, are constantly trying to divert the problem into a political channel, constantly blaming the Russian state for everything.

          By wire:

          Are the three hairs on the head and in the soup the same thing?

          No, they are not the same.
          Today, the UK, with a population of only 66,5 million, has 128 deaths from the virus.

          Russian indicator: Population 146 million people.
          135 637 deaths from the virus

          So far like this, and not otherwise.

          So decide where to find your hair.

          Another point noted by the author, and with which I completely agree: such a "democracy" that allows the enemies of Russians like you to deliberately shit on their media space is definitely not needed by the Russians.

          Go to your Israeli sites (or Ukrainian ones, or whoever you are there ...) and discuss your own problems there.
          1. -5
            5 July 2021 13: 14
            Quote: Dear sofa expert.
            And you, with your openly Russophobic bias, are constantly trying to divert the problem into a political channel, constantly blaming the Russian state for everything.

            Kapets! And what is Russophobia? Have I ever written a lie? Did I color my grades? I wrote how it will be and I was not mistaken! Why should the indication that the half-year bravado about the best, the most advanced, the first, the most effective, the long-lasting bravado be perceived as a political channel? Why did the elementary analytics of vaccine and vaccination prospects, given by me 3-4 months ago, provoke sharp opposition? And why should the stupidity of local authors be presented as a political channel? Why have you FAILED, and am I to blame? It's funny!
            1. +3
              5 July 2021 13: 37
              Why have you FAILED, and am I to blame? It's funny!

              "Failed" - agree on who failed.
              You do not want? Let me remind you:

              So far, we can state that the production and sale of Sputnik RF has failed, as is the actual vaccination itself.

              RF? The Russian Federation?

              Kapets! And what is Russophobia?

              That's exactly it!

              The author writes about a specific contingent, people who zombify themselves and others, with all sorts of "conspiracy theories", actively interfering with humanity in the fight against a fatal disease. And this is unfortunately true.

              You are stubbornly trying to promote your political line - "Russia has failed."
              But what would you remember, this problem is in one way or another not only among Russians.
              And in your Israel there are enough “distrustful” (otherwise why are you yourself “stuck” with your 56,4%?). And your numbers begin to rise again, and it is not yet known whether you yourself will be able to cope with the subsequent mutations of the virus.
              The British, over there, contrary to your latest forecasts, do not really control the situation with the "delta".

              You yourself voice and support here methods of indirect pressure on people in order to force them to "believe" in favor of the vaccine. And you know perfectly well how it is done in your Israel. But it’s not about that.

              I repeat once again, I myself, like you, are on the side of total vaccination, and I am not even an opponent, but rather a supporter of “voluntary-compulsory” vaccination. How do you need to stop this pandemic.

              But I am an opponent, so that people like you, translating everything into a political channel, use the problems of the Russians, in your Russophobic interests.
              1. -7
                5 July 2021 13: 54
                Quote: Dear sofa expert.
                "Failed" - agree on who failed.
                You do not want? Let me remind you:

                Russia has failed!
                Was it not obvious that there is no capacity? What does the West not recognize? Which competitors are stronger?
                An attempt to find out WHO is not entirely clear to me. Do you have such a division of responsibility? Separately, the government, separately the people ... I'm not going to find out personally, I indicated a generalized address - Russia. And you yourself are looking for - "who is to blame and what to do?", I am not needed for this. If an objective assessment of the situation is Russophobia, I agree to correct myself immediately so as not to be such!
                Russia has NOT failed vaccination! Russia has created the best vaccine. Russia has the lowest morbidity and mortality from corona in the world! All countries have recognized Sputnik and are queuing up for billions of doses that are already being shipped around the world to save humanity! WHO not only recognized Sputnik, but also announced the best vaccine! The Russians turned out to be the most responsible people in the world and in the shortest possible time, in an organized and accurate manner, they vaccinated!
                Am I rehabilitated?
              2. -6
                5 July 2021 14: 05
                Quote: Dear sofa expert.
                And in your Israel there are enough “distrustful” (otherwise why are you yourself “stuck” with your 56,4%?). And your numbers begin to rise again, and it is not yet known whether you yourself will be able to cope with the subsequent mutations of the virus.
                The British, over there, contrary to your latest forecasts, do not really control the situation with the "delta".

                Stuck ... Ridiculous! We have 60% of the TOTAL population, if we add those who have already been ill and children under 12, we get a few percent of refuseniks. A society where over 80% have antibodies can afford dissidents.
                The emergence of new strains, which will reduce the effectiveness of the vaccine - obviously, the need for seasonal vaccination - is obvious. What is the problem?
                It is even possible to assume a certain probability of the appearance of a strain uncontrolled by the vaccine, so what? In the worst case - we tried!
                1. +1
                  6 July 2021 20: 02
                  It is even possible to assume a certain probability of the appearance of a strain uncontrolled by the vaccine, so what? In the worst case - we tried!

                  Well .. you yourself are already for the future (and it already seems to be coming to you .. and not cloudless) just in case, so primitive, justified ..)

                  So in relation to Russia, try to behave in the same way - if not with understanding, then at least objectively.

                  Russia is also trying. And moreover, more than yours, because unlike you, she even managed to be among the first to create her own vaccine.
                  Russia has created the best or not the best vaccine, time will tell.
                  Definitely not the worst.
                  In any case, the reputation of Bayontech, which you are praying for there, has given, according to your own (Israeli) official data, a “small crack” - the real protection, like vaccines themselves, from the “delta” variant turned out to be about 64 %. (93% of severe course)
                  And this is much (!) Less than previously announced for the whole world - 95 (100)%.
                  This, if you like, borders on, maybe even, deliberate deception. (A marketing ploy?)

                  This can actually be called a failure.

                  Well, we will see what will happen next.
        2. +1
          5 July 2021 12: 12
          In England, mortality and severe forms of diseases are 16 (!!!) times lower.

          Yes, and you "accidentally" (?) Forgot to comment on the situation in Japan.)
          Vaccinated 12,7% (for comparison - in Russia - 12,1% - that is, quite comparable)
          deaths from the virus 14 793 people.

          What's the truth, "brother"?)
          1. 0
            6 July 2021 22: 18
            They wear masks and observe restrictions. And we all gave it up a long time ago, didn't they?
            1. +1
              6 July 2021 22: 30
              They wear masks and observe restrictions. And we all gave it up a long time ago, didn't they?

              Yes, that's right.
        3. 0
          5 July 2021 22: 43
          This is for sure, but the most interesting thing is that there are many Ukrainians on the campaign here and their brothers in mind are sitting scribbling - scary stories about vaccination.
      2. +1
        5 July 2021 22: 38
        Yes, statistics is a stubborn thing, look we are almost the first following the results of the research of our great scientists and the achievements and groundwork from the USSR invented a vaccine and more than one, I look at the statistics around the world vaccinated in the USA -50%, Germany 51%, Israel -63%, England -70%, China - 65%, etc. And Russia ATTENTION !!! only -15% of those vaccinated from the entire population, only us RF- by means of misinformation and provocations from the outside (perhaps the special services of the West, Ukraine work well, in the form of "word of mouth") -they tell tales about the vaccine, and again I look at the statistics, we have few vaccinated now and immediately we went up in mortality, now with our scanty 12-15% percent of vaccinated in the country, since that week we have been ranked first in mortality in the world among the same USA, England and other countries, this was not the case before. Statistics are stubborn things.
        1. +1
          6 July 2021 12: 07
          I agree completely. The Russian Federation, as a state system, did not fail vaccination, but, on the contrary, gave its citizens everything for this, the first and on the largest scale. The only thing that can be blamed on the authorities in this case is excessive liberalism and open connivance of anti-vaccination propaganda, which is, moreover, completely false. This is a big puncture
    2. 0
      17 August 2021 02: 39
      Well, you see what the Globalists are doing, which are headed by the Jews Rothschilds, Rockefelers, Warburgs and all sorts of Khabadniks !!!!!! They are already killing the people of the planet !!! So the Gulag was not enough for them !? Hitler is half Jewish and how many people did he kill while repaying debt to his creators (Jewish bankers) !? And now the States, under the leadership of the Jews, have completely parted with wars and, as a result, Covid-19 was thrown to the Chinese !!
  2. -7
    5 July 2021 09: 13
    It is necessary to introduce vaccination against Covid-19 in the list of mandatory seasonal vaccinations and that's it. In a legal order.

    and not consonants - to the wall, and from a machine gun - ta-ta-ta ...
    1. -3
      6 July 2021 12: 28
      Why go to the wall? It is possible behind the wall, in a leper colony, in remote places. This is not a plague, but also an infection.
  3. -2
    5 July 2021 09: 36
    Lots of sloff ...
    But about those who brought a new wave of May holidays from abroad - not a word ...
    Nizzza, the elite, can fly.
    Forget about all sorts of Leshchenko, who went with impunity to the party of "those who returned from the Americas-Italia", knowing that he is sick ...

    It's easier to scold abstract anti-lapping ...

    "a restaurant, a boutique, a disco, a football match and so on ..." - the level of performances .....
    1. 0
      5 July 2021 15: 07
      Well, Sergei, if you have a lot of "sloff" here, then you will not please ... Read the ABC book wink
      As for the "elite", and in this case I would rather use the expression "the cream of society" - the elite is somewhat different in my opinion, because it is also a part of the people, whatever one may say. I don’t follow the gossip, I don’t know who is going where, but if you mean Lev Leshchenko, a Soviet singer, then he’s just an old man, and yes, apparently not too smart. But the "cream" is the same, in contrast to

      abstract anti-lapping

      which, in fact, are not at all abstract, but very real and numerous, unfortunately, so these "cream" in public transport move little, they rarely go shopping, and at concerts and matches they sit in special boxes, and generally communicate closely with a very narrow circle of people. And their number in the country is very small. I am not defending them in any way, I am just saying that even if our "cream" all fell ill with covid, an epidemic in the country would not have happened in this regard. Mass diseases spread among the masses among the masses. So it is not necessary again to throw everything on the "cream" and the so-called elite - watch yourself and your loved ones ... There will be more benefits. And then all we have is where is the problem - right away the tsar is bad and the boyars are bastards ...
      1. 0
        5 July 2021 16: 11
        In some ways you are right, but the sum does not change from "rearrangement of terms"

        It has long been understood that the "cream / ellita" on the May holidays brought a new wave over the hill.

        But it is easier to blame everything on "anti-vaccine agents", who themselves have mostly been ill, and there are plenty of antibodies, only there is no paper with a seal ...

        And at the same time, to gloss over with the standard "money for taverns and expensive vacations is apparently quite enough even for these very fools, so widespread among us. And everyone says we live badly!"
        1. 0
          5 July 2021 18: 16
          What's wrong? Is it only a select few now that they ride abroad? Not at all - everything. These fools, who can't sit at home in any way, an epidemic is not an epidemic, and at the same time there is enough money to drag to Egypt through three countries, where everything is not OK with the covid ...
          1. -2
            5 July 2021 20: 24
            Now? Yes.
            In vain did the May holidays suddenly become solid chtoli. And right after them, a wave went ...
          2. 0
            5 July 2021 21: 25
            Someone has boiled good

            Not at all - everything.

            That's right, first everyone needs to look at themselves in the mirror. Even if someone is vaccinated, in my personal opinion, it may well act as a carrier and carrier of the virus. So we could have suffered a little more. And those who decided to "see the world and show themselves", and at the same time to visit the property, in my opinion, at the moment are simply obliged to go through quarantine. It doesn't matter which sea or okiyan or whose jungle has left the area - go to quarantine. Business travelers can relax quarantine in the form of "self-isolation", unnecessary business trips will decrease. Something like this.
            Vaccination is voluntary. Personally, I took a root and advised all my own. If we soberly weigh the "pro" and "contra" - the game is very worth it. Yes
  4. -2
    5 July 2021 10: 06
    In general, with a serious pandemic, you need to compare something with something - from seasonal flu, up to 500 thousand people in the world used to die, and now there are almost 4 million from Covid, and the difference is very tangible, and this trend will only intensify. In our case, the main carrier of this infection is the "free city" of Moscow with all of its Moscow principality, where Muscovites are already so fed up that, despite the worldwide pestilence, they keep going abroad, bringing from there all kinds of infection that spreads throughout our country and in the world exponentially, and someone really needs it to fulfill the "plan" for the "golden billion", that is. to destroy without any wars and cataclysms 7 billion "extra" population of the planet, leaving only 1 (one) billion chosen from the rulers of our destinies + a meager number of slaves and servants, supplying them with effective antidotes, so that the plan of the "world government" to destroy a significant number of humanity is already in action, and with the likelihood of intensifying and accelerating this universal mutating pandemic, it can be completed in a year and a half, and to understand this, one does not need to be seven inches in the forehead.
    1. +3
      5 July 2021 12: 52
      There is only one but! There are no absolute vaccines for infections of viral origin (impossible in principle), as well as there are no 100% curative drugs. Biological warfare is so bad that it cannot have a front line and it does not care about the borders.
  5. -4
    5 July 2021 10: 34
    The author, before yelling about the intensification of the persecution, it would be nice to answer a few questions:
    1. Why is the cycle of vaccine clinical trials still not completed?
    2. Why are vaccines not certified by WHO (although I have no slightest respect for her)?
    3. Why is there a temporary qualification after an illness, but there is no quantitative qualification for the presence of antibodies in the blood?
    4. How are natural IgG antibodies produced in the course of the disease worse than artificial ones from the vaccine (this is hinted at by heart-rending cries about the need to be vaccinated after an illness, if more than six months have passed, despite the presence of antibodies)?
    5. Why are voluntaristic methods used up to the defeat of rights, which directly contradicts the Constitution of the Russian Federation (well, if you are afraid - hang on, why force me to "make me happy")?
    6. And the most important question - why does everyone pretend that vaccine side effects do not exist, although they are not?
    Here I will get sane answers and run to get vaccinated! Only I will not get them, the training manual from the propagandists is not designed for this. This became clear when Solovyov started yelling on the air, apparently the arguments were over!
    1. -1
      5 July 2021 11: 47
      They will make vaccination compulsory, even as you run, you are all brave on the network. Due to side effects, I was vaccinated 4 months ago ... there was no fever, or any other ailments, but after all, you do not need such an answer, give it to you horrible consequences. The consequence is only one thing - I am vaccinated (the time will come, I will continue to vaccinate), and you, sorry for being straightforward, and not the fact that you will live to see it yourself ... these are the consequences that threaten you and others who absorb horror stories.
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      2. +2
        5 July 2021 13: 06
        Quote: Dynamic
        and you, and not the fact that you will live to see it yourself ... these are the consequences that threaten you and others who absorb horror stories.

        I was ill last year and nothing terrible happened to me, and antibodies are still at a high level! Regarding the side effects, here is an article in the medical literature about my colleague who caught side effects that are NOT - https://lib.medvestnik.ru/articles/Klinicheskoe-nabludenie-pacienta-s-sindromom-Giiena-Barre-posle-vakcinacii -ot-COVID-19.html
        And in essence the answers to the questions? You have nothing to say! I have never been an anti-vaccine and did everything that was supposed to be done, but in this situation I would rather look at people like you, guinea pigs!
      3. Ugr
        +1
        6 July 2021 19: 30
        My life - as I want it and I live ...
      4. Ugr
        +1
        6 July 2021 19: 31
        What Matter is I to you, and you to me ...
    2. +1
      5 July 2021 12: 27
      If you don’t want to, Boris, don’t get vaccinated, this is your business, but .... how many "irreconcilable" like you end up in Kommunarka with serious complications, where there are no more places, like in other hospitals in Moscow, and they swear yourself for unwillingness to vaccinate, and they have 5-10 out of 100 chances of surviving, and even at first you will not even notice that you have picked up something, and you will just be a “peddler-incubator” of this dirty trick among your loved ones, friends and acquaintances , who, on the principle of "dominoes", will also contribute to the spread of coronavirus. My wife and I also got vaccinated 4 months ago, I did not feel anything at all, and my wife froze for 2-3 days, and nothing more, but we already have a lot You listen to those who survived, and what Hell they endured, maybe something will reach you.
      1. +1
        5 July 2021 13: 13
        Quote: Valentine
        how do you get to Kommunarka

        I got sick in the Saratov region in November last year, and there are no Kommunaroks there. How they treated me is just an anecdote, to the extent that the results of one of the tests were lost, which is why I spent an extra 5 days on sick leave. And no one gave a damn about me, they called twice from the consumer supervision, with the question do you not leave the house anywhere? That's all the "care"! The ambulance did not come at all, they said come with a covid, because you need to do an X-ray, there is no CT scan! Well, I had a normal illness like this, just then I recovered for a month, and now there are enough antibodies in the blood (but there is no quantitative assessment method)! Leave your horror stories with you, but for simple, simple questions, they are akin to those that are usually described in the "FAQ", and you cannot answer, only slogans and pressure on civic consciousness - "do not become an involuntary killer"!
        1. -1
          5 July 2021 18: 21
          ... and I see you survived after all this? You even write something here ...
          So the doctors did everything right. And the form was light. So thank them and God at the same time. He sees everything, otherwise you will talk, and next time you will receive the full program ...
          1. 0
            7 July 2021 13: 12
            I read and read the comments, I thought, where is the true face of a person - and here it is in this comment of yours. Question: When did you get vaccinated, did you do the survey? blood was donated (and suddenly the body is sick with something), they were tested for antibodies, because any vaccination (ANY one) should be done only after confirmation of the healthy state of the body (vaccination rules). To be vaccinated if you have been ill and there are antibodies - the essence of the action is meaningless, at least if the body is sick (weakened immunity) - the essence of the action is dangerous. And if you can donate blood for the general condition under the compulsory medical insurance for free, then about 2000 rubles should be paid for antibodies for covid (business, however). At work, the deputy. the directors and the director's advisor - the young ladies vaccinated by their companions - got sick, now they are sitting at home with the covid. And here is a personal story: there are three of us and two adult sons: the eldest was seriously ill, I am moderate (a little fever, a little cough), the youngest - if they had not forced us to sniff vinegar with us (test for loss of smell), then they would not have known that is also sick. At the same time, the doctor dropped me and the elder on sick leave (with suspicion of covid!), And the younger was allowed to attend practice (bus depot), transport, shops, etc. - then the scent was still - disappeared two days after the doctor. And the doctor did not make an application to the laboratory - the next day she went about her personal affairs. In other words, the DOCTOR allowed the potential peddler to walk among the people, because according to the rules of Rospotrebnadzor, there is no confirmation of covid in the family, quarantine is not introduced. As a result, the smear was taken only after a WEEK! and then when I re-pushed the doctor. And the elder was seriously ill because the bacterium was in the body and manifested itself when the covid sufficiently weakened the body. Actually, mortality is mainly in hospitals for this reason. It is better to study this question than to flaunt the consequences of quarantine for you: emotionally unstable personality disorders, manifested in the form of aggression towards those on the other side of the barricades, what I saw.
        2. +5
          5 July 2021 19: 41
          Our domestic so-called. medicine, especially in the provinces that you have in the Saratov region, that we have in Rostov, clearly wants something better, because. Soviet medicine was ditched under Gorbachev-Yeltsin, and nothing was created instead of it, so if we don't take care of ourselves, then what we now call medicine is like a dead poultice for us, stuffing our brains on TV with all sorts of fantastic medical series such as "Sklifosovsky", etc., but in reality we have only one zilch, and therefore the salvation of the drowning is the work of the drowning themselves.
      2. Ugr
        0
        6 July 2021 19: 38
        I was treated by a doctor for ARVI, although I told him that Covid was going to the clinic for an appointment with a fever, a month later the doctor decided to hospitalize, but by that time I had already recovered, I myself was checked twice for CT and for antibodies, in the end the doctor said that he didn’t will spoil the statistics and indicated the diagnosis - community-acquired pneumonia, such are our stupid doctors ...
    3. -2
      5 July 2021 15: 27
      First of all, Boris, I didn't shout, I wrote. Quiet enough sitting at the table. If I yelled at you, then you would definitely be in favor of .... you would be silent and would not ask about anything. I guarantee. wink
      Secondly, I will not answer your questions Nos. 1,2,3,4, 6, XNUMX, XNUMX and XNUMX, since I am not a doctor or a microbiologist, you, I suppose, too, the one who still don’t understand a damn thing about this in real life. And when every sofa thinker begins to imagine himself to be a great football coach, then a politician or military strategist, or an infectious disease doctor, it's just ridiculous. But when they begin to act in accordance with this, it is no longer funny, big problems begin in the state. This is just about the question of fools and democracy - leave it to the professionals. If you break your leg, or, God forbid, some kind of bleeding will open up, you won't ask me for advice, or you will look for therapy on the Internet, and you will go to the doctor. Here, too, go and ask. For this there is the Ministry of Health and Rospotrebnadzor with fully qualified personnel.
      Separately in question number 5 - he made me happy, more precisely upset, but strongly confirmed the content of the article - fools and democracy are incompatible things. As for your rights, I have nothing against: you have the right not to be vaccinated, to get sick and die, it's your business. But what about the rights of the people around you? You can infect them, they will suffer, maybe they will die. And they also have rights, and they want to live and be healthy. Why should their lives depend on the mood of a particular fool? so about voluntarism and defeat in rights you are not there. Not only you have the rights, but also those of others - leave the forest to live alone, and no one will force you to vaccinate there. The main principle of democracy is the subordination of the interests of the minority to the interests of the majority, the principle of voting is based on this. But I will repeat once again - the fools cannot understand this, therefore, democracy is not for them - we build and for vaccination!
      Damn ...
      1. +2
        5 July 2021 16: 13
        Alexey, you are a banal propagandist! You state everything clearly in accordance with the manuals. And this is the question, if you are not a microbiologist and cannot answer the simplest and most natural questions that arise among the majority of the population of the country, then who gave you the right to call others fools only on the grounds that they do not want to pour in without these answers an incomprehensible slurry? For some reason, only you understandable, you have risen above the rights of other people and indicate what to do.

        Not only you have the rights, but also those of those around you - leave the forest to live alone, and no one will force you to vaccinate there.

        I can tell you the opposite, you are afraid - go yourself into the forest to the nearest familiar bear and sit out in the den for the whole "pandemic".

        The main principle of democracy is the subordination of the interests of the minority to the interests of the majority, the principle of voting is based on this.

        And who told you that you are in the majority? Soloviev? Kiselev? Or do you profess the good old principle formulated by Bruce Campbell - the one who has the gun (in this case, the propaganda resource) is right?

        As for your rights, I have nothing against: you have the right not to be vaccinated, to get sick and die, this is your business.

        So you are also a fascist-misanthrope, sincerely hate that category of people who disagree with your opinion!
        What is in your article, what is in the answer, there are absolutely no sane arguments for vaccination with drugs that have not completed the cycle of clinical trials, except - WELL, OR WE ALL DIE! And the attempt to prove by contradiction is very weak and unconvincing! There is not even an attempt to understand the essence of the matter and at least try to analyze why a significant part of society, close to the majority, does not want to be vaccinated. Yes, he does not want that to correct the situation, they begin to use draconian methods, explaining this in style - my freedom not to get infected is higher than your freedom to be unvaccinated! As the popular proverb says - "the bathhouse fell from the hell"? Where is that written? Why, before the vaccination, sign a paper that I take all the risks, warned the doctor about all allergic reactions and latent diseases, if I myself may not know about their presence? Oh, yes, you are not paid for this ... You use the usual propaganda technique - you appeal to human emotions, and I to reason - by asking questions, but this, in communication with the majority of the population, is obviously a losing position, since unfortunately 90% of the population gets their opinion from the media! And where is the comparison with a broken leg? This is just the stupidest manipulation - they know how to treat a broken leg all the time of human existence, and no one knows the long-term effect of the vector vaccine!
        I say again, I am not an anti-vaccine, I just do not like it when they try to make an idiot out of me with the wording - "it is necessary, then it is necessary"! I have a fairly high level of antibodies from the transferred covid - more than 2200 according to the analysis of the Hemotest. The analysis was done at the end of last month. To my question, why should I be vaccinated if I have antibodies, I get the stupidest answer - because more than 6 months have passed since the illness! There is no quantitative level of assessment of antibodies, but there is a temporary one! Who installed this? Doctors? I don’t think so! And then some questions, questions, questions ...
        1. -1
          5 July 2021 18: 37
          You can consider me whoever you want, even a fascist, even a propagandist, it makes me neither warm nor cold. Although I am writing here, and not only, it is always my own opinion, which no one indicates to me.
          A fool from the fact that he learned a lot of clever words does not become smarter, as you can see.
          In 1959, if you know, the smallpox virus was brought to Moscow from India. The epidemic was extinguished in a matter of days, strictly and exclusively by order, with the help of the police and the KGB.
          But if then it was not the USSR with its regime, but today's Russia with its too "democratized" frail society, and many would chew snot and ask questions, like yours, half of the country would have died, and perhaps not only ours ...
          Those were then forcibly vaccinated and, as practice shows, they did the right thing.
          1. 0
            5 July 2021 19: 48
            Something, Alexey, we have here more and more often for sound reasoning minus how much in vain, and I call this simply rudeness.
            1. -1
              5 July 2021 20: 05
              I noticed , wink Well, if there are no arguments, and there is not enough intelligence to reasonably object, then at least put a minus ... Well, let them at least rejoice in a rag, if it makes life easier for them! laughing
            2. 0
              7 July 2021 13: 39
              You are absolutely right. He is simply rude to all sound reasoning that breaks down the hysterical arguments of Pishenkov.
          2. +5
            6 July 2021 08: 39
            Quote: Pyshenkov
            You can consider me whoever you want, even a fascist, even a propagandist, it makes me neither warm nor cold. Although I am writing here, and not only, it is always my own opinion, which no one indicates to me.
            A fool from the fact that he learned a lot of clever words does not become smarter, as you can see.
            In 1959, if you know, the smallpox virus was brought to Moscow from India. The epidemic was extinguished in a matter of days, strictly and exclusively by order, with the help of the police and the KGB.
            But if then it was not the USSR with its regime, but today's Russia with its too "democratized" frail society, and many would chew snot and ask questions, like yours, half of the country would have died, and perhaps not only ours ...
            Those were then forcibly vaccinated and, as practice shows, they did the right thing.

            Speak everything correctly, repeating the words of Solovyov, but, as a true propagandist and manipulator, you boil one side of the coin, skillfully hiding the other! Smallpox vaccine when started? Since the end of the 19th century, at least, all the side effects from it have been well known! And what about the satellite, the first vector vaccine? Are there no side effects and long-term effects are well understood? Sergei Mikheev correctly said last year - the main thing is that the medicine does not turn out to be worse than the disease! Oh, how right he was! And then there is the government with one hand, "protecting us from the disease" with the other, opens up abroad, so that more strains of different kinds can be brought! To raise the demand for the vaccine? And by the way, where is the British strain, from which we all had to die in winter? BUT? And the people remember that!
            1. 0
              6 July 2021 11: 42
              In some ways, I even partially agree with you - vaccines against coronavirus (all) are really new. Although the vector vaccine itself is not new, it has been used and tested for a long time, and its greatest success was 10 years ago in the Ebola epidemic in Africa. It was only modified by giving a new virus to the tested carrier vector. The third stage has not passed, for good, none of the existing vaccines, too little time. But the actions of other states show that the benefits of using even new vaccines clearly outweigh the risks. Vsktsins Faizer and Modern, by the way, are generally made on a completely new platform, created with the grimace of RNA manipulation, which has never been tested anywhere and the consequences are not clear. Nevertheless, it is applied everywhere.
              And the smallpox vaccine then, although it was not new, had enough proven side effects. But again, the pros outweighed the cons, as in our case.
              1. +3
                6 July 2021 14: 03
                Thanks for the first sane answer! For my part, I want to note that if the problem is as dangerous as you imagine it, then it is necessary to fight it not only with one vaccination! Well, it is illogical to drive people to vaccination points, while opening the border for more and more countries, as well as increasing the number of cities from which you can fly to Turkey! The situation is similar to the classic one - to climb onto the tree and not to peel the ass!
                1. +1
                  6 July 2021 15: 48
                  You will be surprised, but here again I agree. But the borders are not closed precisely because of the same, apparently, because of which the vaccination is not made mandatory - so that the people who have been cut off from democracy do not howl.
                  And then something, but to howl and complain about the power of our people love, just give me a reason. Fools, these same ones, are capable of destroying the state due to the fact that they or jamon will not be given or flights to Egypt will be closed. We got nasty and got drunk! Nobody thinks about the consequences, they don’t understand that if everything that exists collapses, few of them will fly somewhere in the near future, and they will only have enough money for rent and pasta with buckwheat. That was all already. The generation that participates in revolutions never uses their results, their grandchildren are at best.
        2. +1
          6 July 2021 20: 38
          To my question, why should I be vaccinated if I have antibodies, I get the stupidest answer - because more than 6 months have passed since the illness!

          If you're really interested, then

          Today, according to Covid, there is information that the level of antibodies rises about two months after infection, and then stabilizes for another four months.
          That is, antibodies against coronavirus remain at the same level for at least four months. (plus two previous ones. In the end - six)
          Further - it is very individual: for someone it is longer, for someone else they begin to decrease. Antibodies can decrease very quickly, therefore, in order not to "slip through" the dangerous line beyond which you will no longer have immunity, it is proposed to take a period of 6 months, and to "catch up" the so-called "Booster" - " refreshing "your immunity, vaccination. And since the situation is aggravated by the emergence of new mutations, the "booster" can also be "sharpened" with the actual strain.

          The efficiency of such a "booster" is very high.

          In my opinion, based on the current situation, this is quite reasonable.
  6. 0
    5 July 2021 12: 06
    It is good that tolerance for covid sufferers has not yet been added. And then they will start screaming about the right of voluntary diseases and the infringement of the freedoms of distributors.
    1. -4
      5 July 2021 18: 40
      Well, here are some who seem to achieve this! They, like, have the rights, their mother goes there ...
  7. 0
    5 July 2021 12: 38
    Perhaps I'll start with the chips. There is a complete misunderstanding of the process itself. What is passed off as a "chip" has nothing to do with chips at all. From a word at all. This is a small piece of organically neutral material on which a barcode is applied. It is read by a microwave scanner brought to the location in the body. As in the store when buying a product. Everything. The digital code is received, the request is dropped into the databank where all the information about you actually lies. Well, etc. The "chip" itself is not needed in any food. It's just a piece of dead material. The idea is quite old, it was tried in the late 80s. About conspiracy theory. Yes, there is a conspiracy. Western pharmaceutical companies. For this, only how they are fighting our vaccine. Yes. The covid virus came out of the laboratory. It is based on natural, the scientist is known ( here's a surprise, an American) who was the first to work with him and wrote an article in a specialized magazine in 2015. This time the firms did their best. They took into account the failure with bird and swine flu. I don’t know how there is over the hill, but we have They decided to use the crown to tighten the screws to "democratic freedoms." Well, it turned out that it worked out. The brute force came out with hysteria. Judging from personal experience. I went to the hospital with pneumonia (thanks to the clinic), there were 10-12 people a day for one confirmed covid with pneumonia. I lay for two days in a covid ward (8 people confirmed and two of us are incomprehensible) and then transferred to regular therapy. It was okay. After discharge, I talked with a doctor friend. It turned out that the situation with pneumonia has been going on since 2009, when the bird flu was still network anecdote. That is why I say, bust with hysteria. The people simply stopped being afraid.
    1. +1
      5 July 2021 18: 49
      I'll correct the chips a little: they are small, though they are still not so small to enter the syringe needle. In some Scandinavian countries, their volunteers are already implanted under the skin instead of passports, credit cards, etc.
      But, as you said, information on these chips is recorded in advance, before installation. And in order to read this chip, it must be brought literally a couple of centimeters to the reading device. And the carrier must do it himself, and in a certain way. Himself, the chip, no activity
      shows - no food. Much the same has long been used for dogs and other animals. So, such chips are not suitable for spying, zombifying or any influence on people, and their size is sensitive - about the size of a grain of rice.
      As for the conspiracy - maybe it was, or was planned, but clearly got out of control and turned into a real pandemic ...
      1. -2
        5 July 2021 19: 58
        If we take the idea of ​​the golden billion as a basis, then, in my opinion, everything is under control. It removes just the poor "useless" who do not have access to full-fledged medical care. In our country, this is not so noticeable, but the picture from the west (the United States in particular) is very eloquent. And the actions of pharmaceutical campaigns fit well into the general scheme. Remember what Trump said? We have a vaccine, but only for a select few. Only Russia ruined everything again. Chips, by the way. Forced chipping is a bullshit. Yes, and it is not necessary. Any working person, a modern pensioner, and the overwhelming majority of young people, carry around the equivalent of such a chip on an ongoing basis completely voluntarily. And just try to take it away. I'm talking about bank cards.
  8. -5
    5 July 2021 13: 31
    Quote: Dear couch expert.
    In England, mortality and severe forms of diseases are 16 (!!!) times lower.

    Yes, and you "accidentally" (?) Forgot to comment on the situation in Japan.)
    Vaccinated 12,7% (for comparison - in Russia - 12,1% - that is, quite comparable)
    deaths from the virus 14 793 people.

    What's the truth, "brother"?)

    What for? You are trying in the most primitive way to compare numbers taken out of context. Waves may not coincide in time (which they do), different criteria in statistics, different opportunities to suppress epidemics, different levels of discipline. Geographical factor, the possibility of self-isolation and overlapping borders. You will remember Australia and New Zealand, where cases of infection are rare.
    And the vaccination itself in Japan just started later and will be carried out after the availability of the vaccine - everything is transparent.
    1. -3
      5 July 2021 14: 42
      You are trying in the most primitive way to compare numbers taken out of context.

      Oh how. These numbers are all from your WHO official statistics site. What waves and criteria they use there, apparently only God and you know.)) I just use the information taken there, apparently naively taking it as reliable.)

      And by the way, maybe Israel is broadcasting “on the wrong wave” there? Maybe you're all lying about your successes?)

      And Russia, then, "guy's shirt", here for all to hear "the truth of the uterus" cuts, beads here in front of you scattered, so that you would rummage in it with your hoof, look for dirt. Yes?
  9. -4
    5 July 2021 14: 41
    Quote: Dear sofa expert.
    Go to your Israeli sites (or Ukrainian ones, or whoever you are there ...) and discuss your own problems there.

    Arguments over?
  10. -5
    5 July 2021 14: 49
    Quote: Dear couch expert.
    You are trying in the most primitive way to compare numbers taken out of context.

    Oh how. These numbers are all from your WHO official statistics site. What waves and criteria they use there, apparently only God and you know.)) I just use the information taken there, apparently naively taking it as reliable.)

    And by the way, maybe Israel is broadcasting “on the wrong wave” there? Maybe you're all lying about your successes?)

    Of course he's lying! We all lie here! We are all sick, not like in Russia! Everyone there is healthy and live much longer! They vaccinate us with saline, but everyone gets thrombosis from it, and entire villages are simply dying out.
    1. +1
      5 July 2021 15: 28
      Of course he's lying! We all lie here!

      Arguments over?
      1. +1
        5 July 2021 23: 01
        And in Israel or Ukraine, no one is lying, everyone is completely honest ???. How can you explain that recently 3-5 years, on the territory of Ukraine, Georgia and other former republics, a huge number of US military biological laboratories have appeared, being the sole owner and completely on the budget of the US Department of Defense. (Pentagon) The entry of the authorities of these countries into the territory is strictly prohibited. Don't you think that the new strains of the corona are coming from there?
  11. -1
    5 July 2021 17: 20
    As doctors say: "50 grams of brandy a day is not only useful, but also not enough!" So "plump" and you will not have snot, let alone viruses.
    Seriously now. Cognize everything in comparison, compare yourself with others. The author would be more convincing if he compared countries where covid was neglected. Belarus, Sweden. I'm still waiting for statistics and comparisons. And on the Internet, doctors oppose universal vaccination, but they are not allowed to speak openly. Lenin said:

    The people must always be told the truth, no matter how bitter it is.

    But we just do not have enough truth, one coercion.
    1. -2
      5 July 2021 18: 55
      Lenin said: "The people must always be told the truth, no matter how bitter it may be."

      But what about the land to the peasants and the workers in the factories? He only said that, but did exactly the opposite.
      And why compare countries? I'm not talking about statistics, but about people who are already presented with everything on a silver platter, and they turn up their nose. Because of their stupidity and greedy over the edge, and also because they are sure that they will not get anything for it. It's a pity...
      1. 0
        5 July 2021 21: 37
        Write an article about land and factories and we'll talk. And if you do not own all the information, then you have to be more modest. Or do you not admit that you can be wrong?
        1. -1
          5 July 2021 22: 12
          https://topcor.ru/3446-nam-vrali-70-let-kem-na-samom-dele-byl-lenin.html
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      2. +4
        6 July 2021 08: 53
        Quote: Pyshenkov
        I'm not talking about statistics, but about people who are already presented with everything on a silver platter, and they turn up their nose. Because of their stupidity and greedy over the edge, and also because they are sure that they will not get anything for it. It's a pity...

        I say misanthrope! The people let him down, well, they don't want to become guinea pigs and that's it!
        1. 0
          6 July 2021 11: 49
          You, as a clear supporter of freedom and democracy, should know that your freedom ends exactly where the freedom of another person begins. And the state, which is responsible for the population as a whole, must act in accordance with this, subordinating the interests of individual individuals to the common good. This, by the way, happened in most states, even the most democratic, when they introduced tough lockdowns. And nothing, for the sake of the common good, they forgot about the freedom and rights of individuals. So with vaccinations it is necessary the same.
          It will be the same, only how many people still have to die for this, and what damage will be done to the economy?
          And then here are the same as you, the first will whine about the decline in living standards!
          1. +3
            6 July 2021 14: 21
            And the state, which is responsible for the population as a whole, must act in accordance with this, subordinating the interests of individual individuals to the common good.

            Again, only slogans and manipulations - here I see, here I don't see, here I wrap the fish. Last year the state had all the legal levers, but no one introduced the emergency regime, because this is a responsibility, and primarily financial! They came up with an incomprehensible lockdown as a result, which became - the poor became even poorer, the rich became even richer! Small business, especially in the service sector, generally lay on its side! We decided to limit ourselves to half measures! They declared themselves the winners, in the media they savored how they would divide the world vaccine market, and here on you - Germany does not recognize those vaccinated with "Sputnik V" vaccinated! WHO does not give information on the number of deaths from side effects, but vaccines from Pfizer, Modern, etc. filthy in the same media from every iron! The question arises, from the conspiracy theory, of course, was it not shown to our moneybags in the West before they put the vaccine on the market - if your vaccines are so good, then why such a low percentage of vaccinated in the country? And then "strong-willed decisions" rushed, invented clearly not by doctors, but by managers who were fulfilling the order!
            1. +1
              6 July 2021 19: 13
              Firstly, you probably do not know, but in the Russian Federation there was NO lockdown AT ALL, otherwise you simply do not know what it is. In most of the EU + Israel and Britain were, and it looks quite different.
              Secondly, no one elsewhere in the world has encountered such a situation before, and therefore decisions in various countries, not only in the Russian Federation, were often chaotic, trial and often ineffective. It all ended abroad with lockdowns, and only that helped. In the Russian Federation, I repeat, this has not happened yet. And this is the real merit of the authorities.
              Thirdly, in developed countries, some have convinced everyone that they should have mainly a service economy, not production - it is, they say, harmful, even if third countries spoil their ecology. Here is the result - as soon as force majeure, all these taverns, fitness centers, dog hairdressing salons, etc., etc. (and this is exactly what small business is mainly engaged in - no one wants to produce anything!) Suddenly became unnecessary. But construction, agriculture, and various industries really needed by people just stayed afloat. And this is not only in the Russian Federation, I repeat.
              Fourthly, yes, there is a normal trade war with vaccines. And what, did someone really expect that this is how the whole world would take and unite? So they pour on each other. In the EU, they are trying to criticize Sputnik all over the place, although the material that is suitable is not in any way in the required volume, in contrast to Zeneca and the same Faizer.
              And nothing can be done about it except by volitional decisions from above. This has already been understood even in the "developed democracies" and is acting in accordance with this.
              The notorious market in this case will not decide anything on its own - it was ruined by a tiny virus!

              Well, as always, in any large-scale tragedy, the majority of the people always lose, and someone, no doubt, is enriched. As a rule, just those who were rich before.
          2. Ugr
            0
            6 July 2021 19: 44
  12. +2
    5 July 2021 20: 03
    Today I was on my own at Gkb 64. There is a wifi through the city's website
    I read it, in the city they got vaccinated 1 million. Vaccinated 3 2 million. Apart from other 1,8, a point was opened in Gostiny Dvor. Do 300 sisters at a time.
    Made with my wife in the clinic in March. There was no temperature.
    Two of my acquaintances have been ill, they do not wish anyone.
    One classmate died in Kiev, where he lived with his young wife.
    I don’t know how to invent, as you probably understood.
    All health !!!
  13. +7
    5 July 2021 20: 05
    It's not about fools. The people simply stopped believing the authorities completely "from the word at all". And then suddenly once - and suddenly such a concern for the citizens! When did this happen? Never. People don't believe

    1. -6
      5 July 2021 20: 20
      Excuse me, dear generously, but I do not believe that you are from the Russian Federation.
      Here is my votsap
      +7 997 six six four 93 07
      Throw in yours, we will exchange photos.
      Well, weak?
      1. +2
        5 July 2021 21: 47
        So frankly to frame the men? You have special clubs for this in Moscow. You have to be more modest. Correct "boys" can not understand correctly.

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        2. 0
          6 July 2021 07: 34
          Thank you, I wanted to joke on this topic for a long time, but I held back laughing
  14. +3
    5 July 2021 20: 12
    On the one hand ... psychotypes of "fools" seem to be described in detail. From those who believe in shamans with "diplomas" to those who spit on everyone from the high bell tower and are not going to limit themselves even for the sake of meager personal convenience.

    The question of whether it is worth comparing the average "burgers" with the average "Muscovites and guests of the capital" is also legitimate, although controversial, as is the irrelevance of the "average temperature in the hospital."

    On the other hand ... But the view, as a result, of the "democratic" inertia of our fellow citizens is already fundamentally wrong. The basis, or base, does not open the eyes, but is misleading. I'm not a communist. And I will give an overview of the USSR not to praise the past, especially on the eve of the "elections", but in fairness:

    How was it before? : Studied (working hard), my father passed on work skills (teaching him to work hard too), worked (always hard working) - he could count on something better, compared to those who were lazy, thumped and breathed as they breathed. It was not a staircase, but a very gentle upward path.

    Now how? He cheated, made a fortune, no one will ever remember about the triplets. By fraud, he got out of the mass of less cunning fellow tribesmen, stole, drank and ... in Sochi, or even to Cyprus ... and especially outstanding ones, already to the Maldives. “They have gone into business,” or, to put it more simply, are mired in schemes — the officials, the presidential administration, not to mention the governors and even the priests. The staircase overturned and the cables burst at the social elevators. Even the old people are trying to rob, who is how much. And no one trusts anyone anymore. Neither the president, nor the cabinet of ministers, let alone the deputies. On the contrary, they think that the most elite gang has gathered there. As the saying goes, "what is the pop - such is the arrival."
    Everyone huddled in their own shell, including thoughts, and the "opposition" was trampled into dust, with the exception of the "tame" ones, who are no longer opposition. What kind of democracy do we have?

    PS Although it is necessary to be vaccinated. It's time. And the anti-vaccine company clearly bears the hallmarks of a company. We will understand (but who is?) Who finances and promotes it, we will understand why and what they want. Only now there is not the slightest attempt to investigate the sources of "anti-vaccine"
  15. +1
    5 July 2021 20: 24
    The problem with the roads, thank God, is being solved. But the fools decided to self-destruct ("to spite my mother, I will frostbite my ears"). By the end of the pandemic, the number of fools with cheap show-offs will obviously decline.
    Anti-vaccines, if you are so principled, be principled to the end! Having picked up the coronavirus, do not call an ambulance, let the doctors, who have not crawled out of their spacesuits for months, take a break from you! Treat yourself at home!

    When the Almighty wants to punish someone, He deprives him of his mind.
    1. Ugr
      -1
      6 July 2021 19: 55
      Enough for you, my doctor in the polyclinic is drinking and smoking, and before the lamp is Kovid, an unvaccinated person treats everyone like a cold, and in hospitals in spacesuits they get a triple salary and free meals, they only get paid for where else, and how they did not treat, never cure
  16. 0
    6 July 2021 08: 07
    Quote: steel maker
    So frankly to frame the men? You have special clubs for this in Moscow. You have to be more modest. Correct "boys" can not understand correctly.

    Someone retired in the garden works and nurses their grandchildren, and someone exchanges dick-picks with the men hi
  17. +1
    6 July 2021 11: 15
    The fact is that right now, all opponents of such vaccination, among whom there are many world-renowned scientists in this particular field, are simply silenced. And the arguments, for example, by the Nobel laureate Luc Montagnier, who discovered AIDS (maybe he was a little mistaken in the name) - this is not chipping at all, but a possible acceleration of virus mutations, and much more ... With such people, an open discussion is needed by scientists, and not administrators or politicians.
    1. +1
      7 July 2021 13: 49
      After the Nobel Prize was given to Obama and Alexievich, this prize, as proof of something great in the head, can be taken and wiped off ... Whoever needs it, they give it out, and they say what they need.
      Not all, of course, and this is also a fact. But as an argument of greatness and intelligence, this has definitely discredited itself ...
  18. -2
    6 July 2021 22: 14
    Quote: Dear sofa expert.
    Russian indicator: Population 146 million people.
    135 637 deaths from the virus

    I will assume that our Russian statistics greatly underestimate the numbers of both sick and dead. Four or six times like that. Ask those who have been ill - have they all been diagnosed with covid? Most don't! And now the QR code is issued only to those who have been ill who had an official diagnosis, and to those who have antibodies, but the diagnosis was "silenced" - the QR code is not put. Why? So the statistics on the sick will immediately jump into the heavens.
    1. -1
      7 July 2021 14: 00
      Your truth. I got 1 out of three in the statistics, my niece (they rented an apartment with friends) out of three in the statistics got 1
    2. 0
      8 July 2021 23: 32
      I will assume that our Russian statistics greatly underestimate the numbers of both sick and dead.

      Well, maybe so. But then, for the sake of objectivity, what prevents you from assuming that the statistics of all other states can also manipulate numbers? Or were you guaranteed there?)
      1. -3
        9 July 2021 21: 58
        Everything is possible. But personally, I have no data on their "manipulations", but according to ours it is more than obvious, even at the everyday level. And if you try to compare, for the sake of objectivity, then their statistics looks more believable.
        1. +2
          9 July 2021 22: 29
          for the sake of objectivity, then their statistics looks more believable

          And where did you get such "objectivity"?)
          You yourself are claiming:

          ..But personally, I have no data on their "manipulations" ..

          That is, you have no objective data on the manipulation of statistics in other states. In other words, you just don't know about them, right?

          How then can you judge what you do not know?
          Does the sixth sense suggest?)
  19. 0
    7 July 2021 14: 25
    It's not clear, but what is Pishenkov doing in Russia in 2021? and talks about vaccination and anti-vaccination - what could you do in the Czech Republic? It was so sweet for you abroad back in 2018. Or are you talking about what is happening in the Russian Federation with vaccination and covid and anti-vaccination while sitting in the Eastern European region? Then on what basis did you decide that you have the right to argue who is vaccinated and who is not in the Russian Federation? anti-vaccines to you that prevent you from flying to Russia in taverns to shy away?
  20. -2
    9 July 2021 14: 42
    Well, finally, at least someone wrote that. And as always, comments on the topic about Great Britain. Their population and ours in number, the vaccines themselves and the number of vaccinated do not need to be compared. There are countries 100% vaccinated by Sputnik and they forgot about the pandemic. I really "like" the speeches of our officials like the mayor of Moscow, doctors of sciences, etc. h by regalia and other things, and you are amazed that the entire administrative apparatus and diplomats live without knowing the realities, this is understandable, but to what extent, it is tough. And they either believe or such a number of downs have been born since the times of the USSR, which is really terrible for the future. Or maybe everything is simple, someone sold out for a euro or a dollar in order to spoil ours, someone intimidates for a reason, but someone wants to be a coward and quietly believes in delirium and pushes. Virus your views and position on the drum. He lived as he lives, as he mutated and mutates, as he mowed the people and mows them down. But a frightened people, a sort of gray biomass is easier to manage. It is easier to bring a criminal to the Maidan in the name of the good of a criminal, it is easier to turn him into meat and he will not go against you, he is a coward, as in a children's haircut. The Navalny project has failed, long live the Kovid project. Who cares what project, if only they were afraid.
  21. +2
    12 July 2021 22: 20
    Good gentlemen, when people like me proposed to introduce quarantine, you wanted to spit on our opinion, traveled abroad, imported the infection into the Russian Federation, did not comply with quarantine measures inside the country, escaped from hospitals being sick, did not observe home quarantine ... And now do you propose to restrict the rights of people like me !? And start weakly with yourself and stop importing overseas infection into the Russian Federation !? Or do you feel sorry for yourself and you consider yourself chief executives, as Misha Zadornov said ?! Would you go to a bad mom !!! In addition, the virus has mutated and your vaccinations against it are useless, as evidenced by the recent illness of the vaccinated family of my acquaintances ... Hepatitis also has several varieties and for the diagnosis of each of them they make their own, separate analysis, so your theory that your vaccination effective against new strains of the virus that appeared after the vaccination was created, pseudoscientific, and with your desire to make money in your pocket for a general vaccination, you can go much further, we are not in prison and you have no right to limit our rights ... I do not agree with me?! Submit the question to a general vote in the Russian Federation, and if you are going to push around the rights of people and democracy, which you love to sing about, when it suits you, then recognize yourself as a fascist regime ..
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