The authorities announced the return of the coronavirus, but in a more severe form

18 2021 June 50

It looks like the new virus is returning once again, and in a more severe mutated form. The number of patients in large and small cities of Russia is again growing day by day, and the authorities are introducing previously canceled antiviral restrictions.

According to Sergei Sobyanin, 90 percent of patients with covid in Moscow are diagnosed with a new Indian strain of coronavirus. The most unpleasant thing is that this "delta" mutation of Covid-19 spreads faster and passes in patients in a more severe form. The body's resistance to the virus is complicated by the fact that now a person needs twice as many antibodies as to resist the Wuhan strain of the disease. In this regard, the number of hospitalized patients is increasing.

In essence, we are starting to retrace this story. And with more serious consequences

- said the Moscow mayor in an interview with Channel One.

The mayor of the capital added that 600 beds are filled with patients in two days, which corresponds to the capabilities of the hospital in Kommunarka. Now in Moscow there are about 17 thousand beds for infected patients, soon the number of such places will increase to 24 thousand. New hospitals and buildings for the treatment of patients with coronavirus are being put into operation on a daily basis.

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Sergey Latyshev

-3

18 June 2021 18: 34

Well, the May deputies went on vacation over the hill, and brought it to Moscow ...
hig

+7

18 June 2021 19: 28

The authorities made a mistake - it was impossible to allow demagoguery! Look, in Israel - well done: if you don't want to be locked up - get vaccinated! Do not pickle! now, either a general vaccination, or like this: if the disease reveals the absence of vaccination (in the absence of contraindications) - treatment AT YOUR OWN expense! just first - be so kind as to pay a fine for the malicious spread of infection or aiding it! for unreasonable, for medical reasons, refusal to vaccinate should be considered ONLY THIS! and covid - dissidents, as potential plague, must be evicted to places not so distant, let them campaign there, among their own kind!
Valentine

+3

18 June 2021 21: 03

It's time to fence the enclave of the Moscow principality with barbed wire with chain dogs and watchdogs, otherwise they will re-infect the whole of Russia - after all, the whole Moscow gangster bohemia cannot sit quietly within the Garden Ring, give them Bali, Mallorca, Hurghada and other Indian exotic with all sorts of foot and mouth disease and syphilis, which they bring home on their own. And the renovation mayor-foreman Sobyanin so crucified about the end of the pandemic in the golden-domed, and it’s like, again we are ahead of the whole planet, as always in full de ....
1. Mantrid Machine
  
  0
  
  20 June 2021 13: 45
  
  The Spanish name Mallorca is correctly read as Mallorca (ll = th) and by the way, everything is fine there in the crown.
Alexzn

+2

18 June 2021 21: 22

From the harmfulness, let me remind you that I wrote in the first two months of this year.
That Sputnik will not be allowed to reach the golden billion in significant quantities in Europe either until June, and most likely it will not be available until September (and then it will not be needed).
That Russia will not be able to find production facilities in order to export a significant amount to third world countries, at best, something will appear at the end of the year.
That Russia immediately failed vaccination. First massive, and then large-scale.
That the massive stuffing in the media of negative information about Western vaccines completely undermined faith in their own.
That Russia is in an absurd position - it positions itself as a leader in the creation of a vaccine (and this is really so), and on the other hand, it has a population that, in the absolute majority, does not trust this vaccine.
That by the summer Israel, and then the States and Europe, will vaccinate and create herd immunity.
======
I wonder where I was wrong.
1. Bakht
  
  +2
  
  18 June 2021 21: 33
  
  No one will have herd immunity.
2. Binder
  
  -7
  
  18 June 2021 21: 35
  
  We remember how less than a year ago, last summer, Putin talked about how the Russian vaccine would save humanity from a pandemic and bring Russia billions of dollars in profits. We see a reality that is fundamentally different from his then promises. And so in everything, the topic of the pandemic clearly demonstrates the worthlessness of the current Russian government.
  1. Bakht
    
    +2
    
    18 June 2021 21: 43
    
    It's just a matter of money. Europe orders 1,8 billion doses of Faizer vaccines for the period 2022-2023. Moderna promises to deliver another 1 billion doses of Moderna in 2022 and 3 billion doses in 2023. In total, at the end of 2023 Europe will have about 6 billion doses of vaccines with a population of 450 million people.
    Modern factories are located in Spain and Italy. It is clear that they will not accept Russian or Chinese under any pretext. This is not a question of the competence of the government, but a banal question of money.
    The first moment, which is puzzling. Why does Euroope need 6 billion doses of vaccines? This means that you will need to be vaccinated annually (some talk about 6 months)
    The second point is the experiment on humans. Quote
    
    Technology using genetic material is a new way of producing vaccines. Before the COVID-19 pandemic none of them have yet gone through all the stages of the approval process for introduction to humansalthough some DNA vaccines, including those for certain types of cancer, have undergone human studies. Due to the pandemic, research in this area has progressed very quickly and some mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines are being issued emergency approvals; but this means they can now be administered to humans, not just used in clinical trials.
    
    Sorry, I forgot the link. The quote is taken from the WHO website
    https://www.who.int/ru/news-room/feature-stories/detail/the-race-for-a-covid-19-vaccine-explained
    1. Binder
      
      -7
      
      18 June 2021 22: 10
      
      Quote: Bakht
      This is not a question of the competence of the government, but a banal question of money.
      
      I disagree. I'm not ready to discuss the medical aspects of the problem - I don't know the material. As for the president’s deliberate lies to the citizens of Russia, this is a problem of morality and the responsibility of the authorities to the people.
      1. Bakht
        
        +6
        
        18 June 2021 22: 16
        
        I am not ready to discuss medical issues either. Not a specialist. But I'm browsing the WHO website.
        About "deliberate lies" - you are wrong. Did Putin alone promise to defeat Covid in a year (six months or two years)? Many respectable people (and the prime minister's presidents) promised to deal with the problem. What else could they do? To loudly declare that we will not cope with the Covid problem? You will not find any such statement.
        
        US President Donald Trump expressed confidence that the country will be able to get rid of the coronavirus, regardless of whether it has a vaccine or not. He said this, speaking to supporters in North Carolina.
        “And it will happen faster than people think, with and without vaccines. This is happening, "said Trump.
        
        Coronavirus vaccination in Germany is proceeding successfully. The country is approaching the "light at the end of the tunnel" and victory over the pandemic. This was stated by German Chancellor Angela Merkel.
        
        “From tomorrow, we will be able to turn the page of the first act of the crisis that we have just experienced. From tomorrow, the entire territory, except for Mayotte and Guiana (overseas departments of France - ed.), Where the virus is still actively circulating, goes into the so-called 'green' zone, which will make it possible to resume work with great force, "said Macron
        
        Which of them "deliberately lied"?
        
        Binder
        
        -8
        
        18 June 2021 22: 26
        
        Quote: Bakht
        Which of them "deliberately lied"?
        
        It should be noted that today the situation in the USA, Germany and France is much better than in the Russian Federation. Trump spoke about the ability of Americans to cope with the pandemic - America is confidently coping, and Merkel did not lie, and Macron, as we can see, was telling the truth. The same cannot be said about Putin's irresponsible statements.
        
        Bakht
        
        +5
        
        18 June 2021 22: 33
        
        Is the situation better now? This was said in 2020. It is now 2021. The situation is much better in Russia as well. But they failed. Neither the States, nor France, nor Germany. So I do not see the difference between the statements of the presidents. They are supposed to NOT INSULATE PANIC according to their position. They will all speak only about positive dynamics. And it is right. There is no other way. You wrote
        
        the topic of the pandemic clearly demonstrates the worthlessness of the current Russian government.
        
        You just have a fad against Russia. The whole world recognized that the pandemic showed the worthlessness of the entire Western-style healthcare system. Especially Italy and the United States. It should be so. Optimization does not lead to good.
        
        Binder
        
        -6
        
        18 June 2021 22: 41
        
        Quote: Bakht
        The situation is much better in Russia as well. But they failed. Neither the States, nor France, nor Germany. So I do not see the difference between the statements of the presidents.
        
        In the USA and Western Europe today there is a steady positive dynamics, in Russia, on the contrary, there is a sharp increase in the number of cases.
        
        Quote: Bakht
        you just have a fad against Russia.
        
        I did not write a word against Russia, and its power structures are really extremely unpleasant to me.
        
        Bakht
        
        +3
        
        18 June 2021 22: 44
        
        A sharp increase in the number of cases only in Moscow and the Moscow region. In the regions of Russia, the number of cases is falling.
        I can give figures for Azerbaijan. Ten days ago, we had 2000 cases per day. Today there are 20-30 people. A little more than 10% of the population (two doses) are covered by vaccinations. Why would there be such a decline in the number of cases? I have a version. But it has nothing to do with medicine.
        
        - Doctor, tell me, when will the epidemic end?
        - I'm not interested in politics!
        
        Bakht
        
        +4
        
        18 June 2021 22: 40
        
        Do you know who Klaus Schwab is? I didn't know until last week. So that you do not search on Wikipedia, I will immediately give a quote
        
        Klaus Martin Schwab (German Klaus Martin Schwab; March 30, 1938, Ravensburg, Germany) - German economist; founder and permanent president of the World Economic Forum in Davos with 1971 years.
        
        He wrote the book "Covid-19. The Great Reset" In the Russian-language media, it is unsuccessfully translated as "The Great Reset". But the English version sounds like "GREAT RESET".
        Unfortunately it is not available in Russian. Fresh book. Not translated yet. I'm trying to figure out what is written there. So far, one thing is clear. He associates COVID with economic dumping. There is little or no medicine there. Implications of COVID for the global economy. I haven’t seen anything comforting there yet.
        
        Binder
        
        -4
        
        18 June 2021 22: 46
        
        I am fluent in English, but I do not understand the problems of economics, so I will not read the whole book. However, I will take an interest and look, thanks for the information.
        
        Bakht
        
        +1
        
        18 June 2021 22: 47
        
        It's my pleasure. In any case, the author is not the very last person in politics and economics.
      2. Dear sofa expert.
        
        +3
        
        19 June 2021 00: 01
        
        I disagree. I'm not ready to discuss the medical aspects of the problem - I don't know the material. As for the president's deliberate lies to the citizens of Russia,
        
        Uncertainty about the topic of the article you are trying to discuss, but for that "feeling of satiated confidence" about the Russian president.)
        Affected by the possession of "two diplomas.")))
        
        Binder
        
        -3
        
        19 June 2021 00: 06
        
        Quote: Dear sofa expert.
        Affected by the possession of "two diplomas.")))
        
        Envy in silence - you didn't even get a piece of paper on graduation from vocational school.
        
        Dear sofa expert.
        
        +1
        
        19 June 2021 00: 38
        
        Envy in silence - you didn't even get a piece of paper on graduation from vocational school.
        
        And you are not alarmed by the fact that in my vocational school I was taught to value more your Soviet IFC diploma than a "trick for proletarians" - BBA (Bachelor of Business Administration. For reference - 3 semesters.)), Which you think too - diploma?)
        
        Binder
        
        -4
        
        19 June 2021 05: 33
        
        I am absolutely not interested in the priorities of vocational school students.
3. Dear sofa expert.
  
  +2
  
  18 June 2021 23: 37
  
  From the harmfulness, let me remind you that I wrote in the first two months of this year.
  
  Of the harmfulness, I will object on several points.)
  
  That Sputnik will not be allowed to reach the golden billion in Europe in significant quantities until June, and most likely it will not be until September ..
  
  How does this relate to the topic of the article?
  
  (and then it won't be needed)
  
  Wait and see. I think the opposite. September will not be "the end of Europe's torment."
  
  That Russia will not be able to find production facilities in order to export a significant amount to third world countries
  
  And you don't need to. There is the magic word "franchise".
  
  Massive injections of negative information about Western vaccines in the media completely undermined faith in their own.
  
  Here I basically agree with you. )
  
  That Russia is in an absurd position - it positions itself as a leader in the creation of a vaccine (and this is really so), and on the other hand, it has a population that, in the absolute majority, does not trust this vaccine.
  
  Germany is also positioning itself as the creator of BionTech, no is content with low-grade "Asters & Co."
  
  the population, which in the vast majority does not trust this vaccine.
  
  The Russian mentality, unfortunately. (But you can't understand it)
  
  That by the summer Israel, and then the States and Europe, will vaccinate and create herd immunity.
  
  And by the fall, you will be thrown "the next portion" (biological weapons), and everything will start over again. And it will be this until the entire conceived program pays off. Sorry. :)
Bakht

+3

18 June 2021 21: 32

There is not a single comment more or less professional. I'm even afraid to write anything about vaccines, except that they have NOT all passed normal testing.
The problem is that the Russian vaccine is based on a vector method. Do not ask for details, but if it is weaker than others, it is more secure. Western vaccines (mainly Faizer and Modern) are based on the RNA technique. That is, they change the structure of our DNA and its consequences are unknown. In any case, it is very similar to genetically modified foods.
I would choose vector (Russian or Chinese). Less harm to the body.
But you need a qualified commentary from a specialist doctor.

Europe and the United States have chosen RNA vaccines. Most likely they will not recognize vector vaccines. And we will all become genetically modified human beings. I don't expect anything good from this orgy.
1. Dear sofa expert.
  
  +2
  
  19 June 2021 00: 24
  
  There is not a single comment more or less professional. I'm even afraid to write something about vaccines,
  
  In short, if you do not delve into the intricacies, then both those and other vaccines, in general, cope with their main purpose: to achieve the body's immune response. The only difference is that in the case of a mutation, mRNA vaccines are more effective: it is easier and faster to reprogram to a new strain and "refresh" the existing basic immunity from the first two vaccinations, and "vector" vaccines cannot be reprogrammed, practically a new variant needs to be created. It is longer and more expensive.
  On the other hand, "vector technologies" have been worked out over time, and the long-term consequences are predictable. In contrast, mRNA is a new, poorly understood technology that does not (yet) guarantee future consequences.
Alexzn

+1

18 June 2021 21: 46

Quote: Bakht
No one will have herd immunity.

It already exists in a dozen countries. In fact. It looks like it will work just like with the flu - risk groups will be seasonally vaccinated and epidemics and pandemics will not be allowed.
1. Bakht
  
  +6
  
  18 June 2021 22: 03
  
  The problem is that Covid is a type of flu. Severe form - I admit it, but the flu. And the flu virus mutates almost every season. Therefore, there is no flu vaccine. Until recently, according to the WHO, mortality from tuberculosis was the leading respiratory disease. And the tuberculosis virus itself in a latent form was present in almost 90% of the world's population. And at the same time, many European countries and the States refused BCG vaccinations, and no one raised panic.
  Therefore, there will be no herd immunity. New strains of the virus are already emerging. And they will appear. And we will be constantly vaccinated with a change in the structure of DNA. We will all be put on the needle like drug addicts.
  
  I've always liked Vysotsky. One of his songs was written in 1975 for the movie "The Flight of Mr. McKinley". It's called "The Ballad of Departure to Paradise".
  
  Some type will wake you up
  And let him into a world where wars, pain and cancer are in the past.
  Where the Hong Kong flu was defeated.
  Are you happy with everything you cook? Dypak ...
  
  Later, due to the immunity developed by the majority of the world's population, outbreaks of the Hong Kong flu ceased to be a pandemic. Currently, the H3N2 virus species remain in circulation as a seasonal influenza strainwithout nevertheless leading to any global catastrophic consequences.
  
  https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Гонконгский_грипп
  
  The same will happen with Covid. After the development of immunity, a new strain will appear. But Covid will not disappear completely, as did the Hong Kong, avian, swine, and what other flu there is.
  1. Alexzn
    
    -1
    
    18 June 2021 22: 24
    
    The problem is that Covid is a type of flu.
    
    Sorry, but the similarity of clinical symptoms does not make covid the flu! Influenza is caused by a virus, covid is a coronavirus and this difference is fundamental. Woz divorced these two diseases as DIFFERENT! And write that covid is the flu ...
    1. Bakht
      
      +5
      
      18 June 2021 22: 28
      
      Yes, the WHO wrote that and even on their website there is a section "the difference between covid and influenza." But still it's the flu. Doctors sometimes can't tell the difference between flu and covid. I was examined by a doctor with 40 years of experience. A pulmanologist who worked for 40 years in a tuberculosis hospital. Her verdict was the flu. But the hospital was diagnosed with COVID with negative PCR tests.
      Whom to believe? I trust old doctors.
    2. Bakht
      
      +4
      
      19 June 2021 07: 45
      
      Similarity of symptoms means the same disease. The absence of symptoms means that the person is not sick.
      Let's go back to the comparison between covid and flu. The WHO website says the symptoms are similar. The main difference between Covid and influenza is the transmission speed. For flu, it is 3 days, for Covid, up to 14 days.
      But now there is a new strain of covid (London). Its transmission speed is up to 2 days.
      Thus, the main difference between covid and influenza, according to the WHO, has disappeared. The symptoms are the same as those of the flu.
      What is the difference between viruses, doctors can more accurately say. But the corona virus group includes several dozen common viruses. Including the flu virus.
      
      An experimental drug developed to treat influenza has been shown to be effective against coronavirus infection. This discovery was made by scientists from the US National Institutes of Health and the University of Plymouth.
      
      It also revealed that the drug can prevent damage from the virus in the lungs of a person, according to an article on the portal Nature Communications.
      
      If flu cure is effective against Covid as well, is that saying nothing?
      1. Alexzn
        
        -2
        
        19 June 2021 08: 08
        
        Do not multiply stupidity. These are two different diseases, the treatment protocol is different.
        Both emery and toilet paper are ...
        
        Bakht
        
        +5
        
        19 June 2021 08: 14
        
        Think what you want. According to the WHO, the symptoms are the same, the transmission rate is the same, the treatment is almost the same. I cured my "Covid" with azithromycin in three days. The fact that I was diagnosed in the hospital is just a banal scam. I just didn't figure it out right away and started an argument with the clinic a week later. Half of the money was returned to me and I did not get into the database of cases.
        I have personal experience and communication with competent doctors. Not with those who cut the loot in a paid clinic.
        
        Bakht
        
        +5
        
        19 June 2021 08: 19
        
        The main drugs for the treatment of Covid are remdisivir (developed in 2015 for the treatment of respiratory diseases) and favipiravir (developed for the treatment of influenza)
  2. hig
    
    +1
    
    19 June 2021 14: 47
    
    Quote: Bakht
    And the tuberculosis virus itself in a latent form was present in almost 90% of the world's population. And at the same time, many European countries and the States refused BCG vaccinations, and no one raised panic.
    
    Congratulations! You have made the greatest discovery in microbiology !!! Urgently!!! apply for the Nobel Prize !!! tuberculosis is a viral disease ... What do you smoke? before. than to write - if only Vicki read that. whether ... Although, I understand: "the Chukchi is not a reader, the Chukchi is a writer (s) ...
    1. Bakht
      
      0
      
      19 June 2021 15: 04
      
      Well bacteria. Another issue is of fundamental importance. Why doesn't anyone drive a wave because of such dangerous diseases as tuberculosis, syphilis, herpes? 90% of the population is "asymptomatic" with these diseases.
      Why did I bring tuberculosis? Yes, many refused to vaccinate him.
2. Dear sofa expert.
  
  +1
  
  18 June 2021 23: 45
  
  No one will have herd immunity.
  
  It already exists in a dozen countries. In fact.
  
  He, if there is, so far only for the main strain. Let's see what kind of immunity will be on the "follow-up".
  The fourth wave on the crest of the "delta" has already begun in Great Britain. Or do you have some other information?)
Alexzn

-2

18 June 2021 22: 09

Quote: Bakht
It's just a matter of money. Europe orders 1,8 billion doses of Faizer vaccines for the period 2022-2023. Moderna promises to deliver another 1 billion doses of Moderna in 2022 and 3 billion doses in 2023. In total, at the end of 2023 Europe will have about 6 billion doses of vaccines with a population of 450 million people.
Modern factories are located in Spain and Italy. It is clear that they will not accept Russian or Chinese under any pretext. This is not a question of the competence of the government, but a banal question of money.
The first moment, which is puzzling. Why does Euroope need 6 billion doses of vaccines? This means that you will need to be vaccinated annually (some talk about 6 months)
The second point is the experiment on humans. Quote

Technology using genetic material is a new way of producing vaccines. Before the COVID-19 pandemic none of them have yet gone through all the stages of the approval process for introduction to humansalthough some DNA vaccines, including those for certain types of cancer, have undergone human studies. Due to the pandemic, research in this area has progressed very quickly and some mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines are being issued emergency approvals; but this means they can now be administered to humans, not just used in clinical trials.

Sorry, I forgot the link. The quote is taken from the WHO website
https://www.who.int/ru/news-room/feature-stories/detail/the-race-for-a-covid-19-vaccine-explained

That production capacity and registration issues are a function of money - I don't even know who does not understand this.
Huge orders from developed countries should not embarrass you, they must be divided by two, and then a significant part must be redirected to developing countries, as it is planned to do in September. Although the expectation of the seasonality of vaccination is quite reasonable. Consistent with the realities.
Alexzn

-2

18 June 2021 22: 14

Quote: Bakht
There is not a single comment more or less professional. I'm even afraid to write anything about vaccines, except that they have NOT all passed normal testing.
The problem is that the Russian vaccine is based on a vector method. Do not ask for details, but if it is weaker than others, it is more secure. Western vaccines (mainly Faizer and Modern) are based on the RNA technique. That is, they change the structure of our DNA and its consequences are unknown. In any case, it is very similar to genetically modified foods.
I would choose vector (Russian or Chinese). Less harm to the body.
But you need a qualified commentary from a specialist doctor.

Europe and the United States have chosen RNA vaccines. Most likely they will not recognize vector vaccines. And we will all become genetically modified human beings. I don't expect anything good from this orgy.

It seems like these are well-known and uncontested things in terms of hypothesis. As it will be in real life - practice is the criterion of truth.
Alexzn

-2

18 June 2021 22: 30

Quote: Bakht
Yes, the WHO wrote that and even on their website there is a section "the difference between covid and influenza." But still it's the flu. Doctors sometimes can't tell the difference between flu and covid. I was examined by a doctor with 40 years of experience. A pulmanologist who worked for 40 years in a tuberculosis hospital. Her verdict was the flu. But the hospital was diagnosed with COVID with negative PCR tests.
Whom to believe? I trust old doctors.

You contradict yourself! No gags, covid is not the flu. Point.
Alexzn

-2

18 June 2021 22: 57

Quote: Bakht
A sharp increase in the number of cases only in Moscow and the Moscow region. In the regions of Russia, the number of cases is falling.
I can give figures for Azerbaijan. Ten days ago, we had 2000 cases per day. Today there are 20-30 people. A little more than 10% of the population (two doses) are covered by vaccinations. Why would there be such a decline in the number of cases? I have a version. But it has nothing to do with medicine.

- Doctor, tell me, when will the epidemic end?
- I'm not interested in politics!

Sorry, but 2 weeks ago you had 100-200, two thousand you had a couple of months ago, today you have 60. Don't juggle. Like any viral disease, covid comes in waves, with 10% vaccinated, you are guaranteed to get another wave in the near future.
Alexzn

-1

19 June 2021 07: 50

Your statements
Merkel asked Putin for help with vaccine supplies ...
Germany is no different from Russia in its reluctance to vaccinate ...
Russia is ahead of Germany in terms of vaccination rates ...
Morbidity and mortality in Israel does not depend on vaccination ...
Germany (Bavaria) buys Sputnik in millions and will start production in May-June.
Hungary, Italy, Slovakia and the Czech Republic are about to start grafting and even producing Sputnik.
1. Dear sofa expert.
  
  +1
  
  20 June 2021 12: 58
  
  Your statements
  Merkel asked Putin for help with vaccine supplies ...
  Germany is no different from Russia in its reluctance to vaccinate ...
  Russian opera ... ..
  
  I can poke your poop with my nose in the same way, but it's a pity to lose my weekend.)
Alexzn

-2

19 June 2021 08: 04

Quote: Dear couch expert.
No one will have herd immunity.

It already exists in a dozen countries. In fact.

He, if there is, so far only for the main strain. Let's see what kind of immunity will be on the "follow-up".
The fourth wave on the crest of the "delta" has already begun in Great Britain. Or do you have some other information?)

Herd immunity against viral diseases is not an insurance policy, but a mechanism!
Today, the main vaccines are effective against ALL isolated in a special series of strains. The statement that immunity will only work against the main (?) Strain is already false.
It is assumed and everyone knows this (well, maybe with some exceptions) that seasonally it will be necessary to renew immunity, first of all, in risk groups.
Herd immunity is not a given forever and is not a guarantee against everything. It may very well be that it will need to be extended in time and expanded to meet new challenges. The Future Will show.
1. Dear sofa expert.
  
  +1
  
  20 June 2021 12: 47
  
  Today, the main vaccines are effective against ALL isolated in a special series of strains. The statement that immunity will only work against the main (?) Strain is already false.
  
  Oh how.)
  
  ..The smaller the circle of knowledge, the narrower the boundaries of the unknown ..
  
  - this is just about people like you.)
  
  Take the familiar BionTech / Pfizer for example.
  
  The number of antibodies produced after two vaccinations compared to the main strain:
  
  - Indian variant (B.1.617.2 Delta) - 5,8 times less
  
  - South African (B.1.351 Beta) - 4,9 times less
  
  - English version (B.1.1.7 Alpha)
  - 2,6 times less
  
  Can you argue?)
Alexzn

-2

19 June 2021 08: 17

Quote: Dear couch expert.
No one will have herd immunity.

It already exists in a dozen countries. In fact.

He, if there is, so far only for the main strain. Let's see what kind of immunity will be on the "follow-up".
The fourth wave on the crest of the "delta" has already begun in Great Britain. Or do you have some other information?)

The British dropped the mortality rate to 20 people, reducing the severity of diseases by vaccination, I am sure that in a month or two everything will go according to the Israeli scenario and the number of diseases themselves will fall to 100 per day
1. Dear sofa expert.
  
  +1
  
  20 June 2021 12: 55
  
  The British dropped the death rate to 20 people, reducing the severity of the disease by vaccination,
  
  This is yesterday's reality.
  I'm talking about today's (Delta). Everything starts anew there.
  
  I am sure that in a month or two everything will go according to the Israeli scenario and the number of diseases themselves will fall to 100 per day
  
  Wait and see.
  The "Israeli scenario" may also have a continuation. You will be vaccinated every half a year, and each time with a new revision of the vaccine against a new mutant.
  Will you pull?)
Petr Vladimirovich

0

19 June 2021 10: 45

https://t.me/rian_ru/103652

But these points were opened a long time ago ...
Jacques sekavar

+1

19 June 2021 14: 25

How the infection may not spread if there are symptoms, but tests show its absence, and CT scan the presence of a lesion.
At the same time, the heroic fighters against covid seem to reluctantly admit the presence of the disease, but they do not take any action, prescribing drugs only of symptomatic action - fever, cough.
At the same time, being on self-isolation, a person lovingly communicates with family members who go to work, educational institutions, shops, and communicate with other people.
Conclusion - wait until it passes by itself.
1. Jacques sekavar
  
  0
  
  19 June 2021 15: 07
  
  And in general, what is the point in the glove-mask mode, if, as they say, the virus retains its pathogenic properties for up to two days on outerwear?
  Then it is necessary to introduce not a glove-and-mask regime, but a complete ubiquitous anti-infectious vestment, as in the red zones.
Alexzn

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20 June 2021 13: 08

Quote: Dear couch expert.
Your statements
Merkel asked Putin for help with vaccine supplies ...
Germany is no different from Russia in its reluctance to vaccinate ...
Russian opera ... ..

I can poke your poop with my nose in the same way, but it's a pity to lose my weekend.)

Try it!
Alexzn

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20 June 2021 13: 10

Quote: Jacques Sekavar
And in general, what is the point in the glove-mask mode, if, as they say, the virus retains its pathogenic properties for up to two days on outerwear?
Then it is necessary to introduce not a glove-and-mask regime, but a complete ubiquitous anti-infectious vestment, as in the red zones.

Your logic is strange. If you are wearing masks, can the virus not get on your clothes? And if you wear gloves, then you will not transfer to the mucous membrane?
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