Kiev was deprived of two levers of pressure on Moscow


On Monday, June 7, a telephone conversation between Vladimir Zelensky and Joseph Biden took place. The negotiations did not become a breakthrough for Kiev - moreover, the text of the statement based on the results of the discussion between the two leaders did not reflect its essence and misled the citizens of Ukraine.


The report of the press service of the Ukrainian president said that Washington allegedly fully supported Kiev's desire to become part of the North Atlantic Alliance and is ready to provide the Ukrainian authorities with an action plan for membership in the Western bloc. Meanwhile, the United States did not give Ukraine any specific assurances in this regard.

Zelenskiy's office would not have been so if it hadn't lied about a phone call with Biden

- noted in his blog political analyst Vladimir Kornilov.

In addition, the American side ignored the calls of the Ukrainians to put pressure on Russia in order to prevent the completion of the construction of Nord Stream 2, which became another diplomatic fiasco of the Nezalezhnaya rulers. Earlier, the United States Secretary of State Anthony Blinken pointed out the inevitability of the imminent launch of a new gas pipeline along the bottom of the Baltic and called on Germany to help preserve Ukrainian transit.

Thus, Ukraine lost two potential levers of pressure on the Kremlin at once.
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  1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
    Ulysses (Alexey) 9 June 2021 15: 39
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    The report of the press service of the Ukrainian president said that Washington allegedly fully supported Kiev's desire to become part of the North Atlantic Alliance and is ready to provide the Ukrainian authorities with an action plan for membership in the Western bloc. Meanwhile, the United States did not give Ukraine any specific assurances in this regard.

    The owners of the greasy settlers sincerely believe, "America will help us."
    It will turn out, as always ..

    1. Digital error Offline Digital error
      Digital error (Eugene) 9 June 2021 19: 17
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      Quote: Ulysses
      sincerely believe, "America will help us."

      I would not jump to conclusions. Remember the "Bulgarian Stream"? First they built it (having invested billions at the expense of Russian taxpayers), and then they had to "diversify". It is not enough to build a pipe, it needs to be serviced. And these are specific legal entities against which you can impose sanctions and thereby devalue Russian investments.
      1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
        Ulysses (Alexey) 9 June 2021 19: 48
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        I would not jump to conclusions. Remember the "Bulgarian Stream"? First they built it (having invested billions at the expense of Russian taxpayers), and then they had to "diversify".

        Bulgarians will pay for their pod for a long time.
        "Brothers" finally dropped out of the negotiable.
      2. kapitan92 Offline kapitan92
        kapitan92 (Vyacheslav) 9 June 2021 20: 06
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        Quote: DigitalError
        Remember the "Bulgarian Stream"? First they built it (having invested billions at the expense of Russian taxpayers), and then they had to "diversify".

        There has never been such a flow. laughing
        There was South Stream, which Bulgaria refused.
        There is "Balkan Stream", "Turkish Stream", projects have been implemented and are working ..
        1. Digital error Offline Digital error
          Digital error (Eugene) 9 June 2021 20: 23
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          Quote: kapitan92
          There was South Stream

          Exactly - it was, not is. And there are expenses for its construction, covered by taxes of citizens of the Russian Federation to the detriment of construction ... even if a new parking lot in your yard. Or to the detriment of the quality of the asphalt on the road to your cottage. The reasons for raising pension age are multi-component and are due not only to agreements with the IMF, but also to the miscalculations of the federal government.

          There are "Balkan Stream", "Turkish Stream", projects have been implemented

          That is, they are still diversified, as I said yes At whose expense and thanks to whose wise leadership? lol
          1. kapitan92 Offline kapitan92
            kapitan92 (Vyacheslav) 9 June 2021 20: 32
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            Exactly - it was, not is. And there are expenses for its construction, covered by taxes of citizens of the Russian Federation to the detriment of construction ... even if a new parking lot in your yard. Or to the detriment of the quality of the asphalt on the road to your cottage. The reasons for raising pension age are multi-component and are due not only to agreements with the IMF, but also to the miscalculations of the federal government.

            Listen, stop writing nonsense. You will study the topic first.
            What the hell is the "Bulgarian stream" ???
            After the start of the European Commission's antitrust investigation against Gazprom, Gazprom refused to bill Bulgarians for disrupting the project.
            Learn the materiel!
            1. Digital error Offline Digital error
              Digital error (Eugene) 9 June 2021 20: 35
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              Quote: kapitan92
              After the start of the European Commission's antitrust investigation against Gazprom, Gazprom refused to bill Bulgarians for disrupting the project.

              Let's admit. How does this cancel out the damage to Russian taxpayers? Were there any losses? Whose wise decision have Russian taxpayers incurred losses?
              1. kapitan92 Offline kapitan92
                kapitan92 (Vyacheslav) 9 June 2021 20: 43
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                Quote: DigitalError
                Let's admit. How does this cancel out the damage to Russian taxpayers? Were there any losses? Thanks to whose wise decision?

                Do not admit it, you need to know if you write on this topic.
                Gazprom has been pinned down by this antitrust investigation and would have paid more to Europe than the loss of a construction failure.
                What is the damage to taxpayers?
                PJSC Gazprom is a public joint stock company, is it supported or financed from the budget?
                If there were losses - write what and how much?
                Whose wise decision? - probably the board of directors of "Gazprom"!
                1. Digital error Offline Digital error
                  Digital error (Eugene) 9 June 2021 21: 07
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                  Quote: kapitan92
                  PJSC Gazprom "- public joint stock company

                  50% controlled by the Russian Federation.

                  Moscow. 11 September. INTERFAX.RU - State Duma deputies adopted in the first reading a bill on tax breaks for Rosneft and Gazprom Neft, which will be able to save from 1,5 billion to 2 billion rubles a month.

                  https://www.interfax.ru/business/676066

                  Quote: kapitan92
                  write what and how much?

                  Despite assurances from politicians that Moscow has no claims against Sofia in connection with the suspension of the South Stream project, the Bulgarian state-owned company still owes Gazprom almost 100 million euros - and the Russian company expects that this money will be returned.

                  https://www.interfax.ru/world/659901

                  Quote: kapitan92
                  Whose wise decision?

                  The development of a feasibility study for the gas pipeline project was completed in early October 2011.
                  Gazprom's partners in the construction of onshore sections were Austria, Bulgaria, Hungary, Greece, Serbia, Slovenia, Croatia and Macedonia, with which intergovernmental agreements on participation in the project and documents on the creation of joint ventures (JV) were signed in different years. In these joint ventures, Russia and each of the countries had equal shares (with the exception of Serbia, in the joint venture with which Gazprom owned 51% of the shares).

                  https://tass.ru/info/2577488 Ага, межправсоглашения были заключены в 2011. Кто был главой правительства в тот год - не напомните?
                  1. kapitan92 Offline kapitan92
                    kapitan92 (Vyacheslav) 9 June 2021 21: 40
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                    50% controlled by the Russian Federation.

                    I will clarify, 50, 23%. !!!
                    The owners of the Gazprom concern:

                    Russian Federation represented by the Federal Agency for State Property Management: 38,37%;
                    JSC Rosneftegaz: 10,97%;
                    OJSC Rosgazifikatsiya: 0,89%;

                    State Duma deputies adopted in the first reading a draft law on tax benefits for Rosneft and Gazprom Neft,

                    Don't be taken out of context. Even from your link.
                    Tax incentives provide for exemption from oil export duties, produced at fields in new regions of oil production at the initial stage of development.

                    The Bulgarian state-owned company owes Gazprom almost 100 million euros - and the Russian company expects that this money will be returned.

                    Do you even read your links yourself?
                    In the materials of "Gazprom" it is reported that the company Gazprom EP International BV provided the Bulgarian Energy Holding (BEH) with a long-term credit line for 97,7 million euros.
                    Are you returning the loan to the bank? And than Gazprom is worse.

                    The development of a feasibility study for the gas pipeline project was completed in early October 2011.
                    Gazprom's partners in the construction of onshore sections were Austria, Bulgaria, Hungary, Greece, Serbia, Slovenia, Croatia and Macedonia, with which intergovernmental agreements on participation in the project and documents on the creation of joint ventures (JV) were signed in different years.

                    So what? All the developments were useful for the "Balkan Stream", no one changed the routing and projects in Bulgaria, Serbia. We docked with the Serbs, the project is working, further according to the plan.
                    1. Digital error Offline Digital error
                      Digital error (Eugene) 9 June 2021 21: 54
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                      Quote: kapitan92
                      Gazprom EP International BV [b] provided Bulgarian Energy Holding (BEH) with a long-term credit line for EUR 97,7 million.

                      This is almost 9 billion rubles. More than they found in Colonel Zakharchenko's and is comparable to the annual government spending on providing housing for orphans.

                      With this loan, he rents an office, buys a Cherokee jeep and eight boxes of Smirnovskaya. When "Smirnovskaya" ends, it turns out that the jeep is broken, the office is vomited, and the loan must be repaid

                      A quote from Pelevin, if that. And you preferred to bypass the question of the signatory of the intergovernmental agreements in 2011. And he also signed the law on raising the pension age - while the "palace" in Gelendzhik was being built yes Well, and what? The dog barks - the caravan is on its way good
                      1. kapitan92 Offline kapitan92
                        kapitan92 (Vyacheslav) 9 June 2021 22: 02
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                        Quote: DigitalError
                        This is almost 9 billion rubles. Bollier than they found at Colonel Zakharchenko's and is comparable to the state's expenses for providing housing for orphans.

                        What does Zakharchenko and orphans have to do with it? I gave you information on the debt.

                        Gazprom EP International BV provided Bulgarian Energy Holding (BEH) with a long-term credit line for 97,7 million euros.

                        A loan has been issued and will be returned!

                        Quote: DigitalError
                        With this loan, he rents an office, buys a Cherokee jeep and eight boxes of Smirnovskaya. When "Smirnovskaya" ends, it turns out that the jeep is broken, the office is vomited, and the loan must be repaid
                        A quote from Pelevin, if that. And you preferred to bypass the question of the signatory of the intergovernmental agreements in 2011. And he also signed the law on raising the pension age - while the "palace" in Gelendzhik was being built. Well, what? The dog barks - the caravan is on its way

                        This is nonsense at all off topic!
                        We are not discussing the pension reform here, the palace in Gelendzhik.
                        This is with Pelevin, without me. hi
                      2. Digital error Offline Digital error
                        Digital error (Eugene) 9 June 2021 22: 06
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                        Quote: kapitan92
                        We are not discussing here

                        You are no, I am yes. Don't generalize smile

                        Quote: kapitan92
                        What does Zakharchenko and orphans have to do with it?

                        Everything is interconnected. If it has arrived somewhere, it means that it has gone somewhere. There are no miracles request hi
                  2. Digital error Offline Digital error
                    Digital error (Eugene) 9 June 2021 22: 15
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                    Quote: kapitan92
                    I will clarify, 50, 23%. !!!

                    I didn't notice it right away, I'm sorry. So much the worse for your argumentation - the Russian state has every opportunity to block this or that decision of the board of directors. But the decision, which entailed € 100 million in losses (only officially recognized), was not blocked. Lousy risk management - if Miller (and not only) had to go to study, but suddenly they would not return after leaving lol
                  3. Ivan Semenov Offline Ivan Semenov
                    Ivan Semenov (Ivan Semenov) 10 June 2021 15: 43
                    +1
                    And he does not need to read the links. He would have to excite taxpayers. It doesn't matter for what reason.
  • 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 9 June 2021 15: 39
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    Their lever is leaking. Have you tried to repair?


    In the Ivano-Frankivsk region of Ukraine, at the Uhersko-Ivano-Frankovsk-Chernivtsi section near the village of Kuzlov, a high-pressure gas pipe with a diameter of 500 mm exploded - a branch from the Urengoy-Pomary-Uzhgorod gas pipeline.

    https://newdaynews.ru/crimea/726541.html
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    2. Igor Pavlovich Offline Igor Pavlovich
      Igor Pavlovich (Igor Pavlovich) 9 June 2021 16: 15
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      You need to measure the levers (view from a different angle).

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiKTqyWBsvU
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) 9 June 2021 16: 34
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        You need to measure the levers (view from a different angle).

        Will not work. The gas pipeline to the Orenburg region is not applicable as a lever. Are they really trying to put pressure on Ukraine? But the technical condition of the pipe of "crushers" matters.

        Ukrainian GTS is approaching a critical degree of wear

        https://vz.ru/economy/2016/9/9/831561.html

        4 years have passed, has someone tried to repair it, or do you hope to grow itself? You will not be able to press through it, make an effort and crumble.
        By the way, it looks like today is the day of peremog, here the European Court removed the unfrozen assets of the "bloody dictator" Yanukovych. It seems that only the horses consider him to be such. It is not even an hour, and they will force you to return the golden loaf.
        https://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2021-06/cp210096en.pdf
  • zenion Offline zenion
    zenion (zinovy) 9 June 2021 16: 49
    0
    The United States said there was no conversation and no one made any promise to Ukraine
    1. Eduard Aplombov Offline Eduard Aplombov
      Eduard Aplombov (Eduard Aplombov) 9 June 2021 18: 46
      0
      Is it possible to believe the words of the US administration, tête-à-tête can say one thing, but to the public it is completely different, it may well be that the saucepans are not lying