"Takeover is preparing!" Why the West was worried about the meeting between Putin and Lukashenko


The summit of the presidents of Russia and Belarus held last weekend in Sochi can with good reason be called one of the most "closed" events of this kind. After it ended, the leaders of the two countries did not go out to the press, which is traditional for such cases, let alone hold a press conference. Even Dmitry Peskov, who, it would seem, should have shed at least some light on the presidential negotiations, did not destroy the deaf wall of silence on the topics and results of the communication between Vladimir Vladimirovich and Alexander Grigorievich, which lasted for quite a long time. But he voiced only the most common phrases ...


What does that mean? What such secret were they talking about there ?! How did this affect the relations between Moscow and Minsk - did they bring them closer together or, on the contrary, did “cracks”, controversial issues and conflict moments appear in them again? It seems that Western analysts and experts, like real fortune-tellers, have already exhausted a lot of the notorious coffee grounds, trying to get answers to these questions. What conclusions they came to as a result can be clearly seen from the relevant publications of the leading Western media. But how far can the put forward assumptions correspond to the truth? Let's try to figure it out.

And bathed in the cold sea ...


Those poor fellows who, sparing no effort, tried and are trying to penetrate into the “secret meaning” of the meeting in “Bocharov Ruchei”, had to “analyze” everything - facial expressions, gestures, and other smallest details. If the Washington Post got to the point that it made its maxim about “full support of the Kremlin for Lukashenka” on the basis of “good-natured jokes and friendly body language,” clearly, according to its experts, seen during the conversation between the two leaders, then the matter is very bad. Some, of course, went even further in their flight of thought. Assumptions were expressed one more outlandish than the other - someone, for example, undertakes to assert that “Lukashenka flew to Sochi to report to Putin for the story with Ryanair and Protasevich”. Moreover, Alexander Grigorievich himself said: they say, "brought a suitcase of documents" directly related to this story, so that "Moscow sorted it out." However, it is still problematic to assume that the meeting between the two presidents was due to the detention of one bastard (albeit with far-reaching consequences). So why did it take place?

Brief: “the issues of the development of bilateral relations were discussed and economic cooperation ”, nevertheless voiced by Peskov, is literally about nothing. It is clear that these moments (as well as the "interrupted flight" of Protasevich) were undoubtedly discussed. However, it is extremely doubtful that such "commonplaces" were spoken out behind closed doors for five whole hours on the first day and a lot of time afterwards. So far, very little is known about the specific results. Yes, Minsk will receive $ 500 million - but, in fact, this is far from a breakthrough, but just the second part of the loan, the decision to grant which was made by Moscow back in the past, in 2020. The amount is not God knows what, although it is better than nothing, and in general Belarus in the current situation any help is just right.

Some in the West even deigned to be sneering about this: they say, Putin, a monster like that, “forced” Lukashenka to plunge into the not too warm Black Sea, where, by the way, he did not dive himself. And that, poor fellow, and there was nowhere to go - for the sake of half a billion and not in such cold water you will climb ... That's all, nonsense, of course. Generally speaking, some Western media are very willing to speculate on the topic of alleged "discord" between the two leaders, savoring it as soon as possible. For example, the British The Times undertakes to assert that “Lukashenka is already annoying even Putin”. Why would such a conclusion? The publication comes to the aid of Andrew Wilson, who is considered to be a great expert on Belarus, and the author of the book "The Last Dictatorship of Europe". He states that when “watching video footage from the meeting, he noticed: the Russian leader is annoyed by the conversational style of his Belarusian colleague”. The publication summarizes that "Lukashenka is now in the weakest position in recent years," however, "The Kremlin has not received anything serious in return for the full support provided to Minsk."


This is where, by the way, the really interesting begins - certain "experts" are trying to voice the "list of Putin's demands", which he allegedly voiced in Sochi. Fantasy is a good thing, but for some it obviously does not know how to hold back. So, among them are called "the complete transfer of state Belarusian assets under the control of Russian oligarchs", "the transition of the two countries to a single currency with an emission center in Moscow", "the creation of new Russian military bases on Belarusian territory", "the subordination of the KGB of Belarus to the Russian FSB", "One hundred percent coordination of external policy Minsk with Moscow ”and even“ Russification of Belarusian toponymy and history ”. At the same time, those who put forward such, if I may say so, versions do not even think about how blatantly absurd they are all together and each separately.

"Takeover is preparing!"


The above is a far from complete list of voiced inventions, but the rest are even more ridiculous. Well, as for those listed ... Who now needs the "assets" of the state, which is under the increasingly powerful sanctions "press" ?! Here are few Russian businessmen's own losses - in order to even hang on themselves there. The same can be said about the “single currency”. In the current situation, it would be financial suicide for Moscow to arrange such a thing. Military bases? This is also a problem ... If it is necessary, we will create it. Well, about the “subordination of the KGB” and the “Russification” of the names of Belarusian villages - this is just ridiculous. Some kind of kindergarten, not "details of the ultimatum" that Vladimir Vladimirovich allegedly announced to Alexander Grigorievich, simultaneously dipping him into the cold sea waves. There is nothing even to discuss here. What else is there?

Oh yes ... Coordination of foreign policy. Is it still unclear to someone that Lukashenka received such a “vaccine” from “multi-vector” over the past year that would be enough for ten presidents? And, by the way, it continues to receive - let us at least recall the actions of Kiev. Minsk today is really tied to Moscow in the closest way, but the West, who is terribly worried about this, made the maximum effort to ensure that it happens exactly this way, and not otherwise. The same Washington Post laments: “Lukashenka no longer has trump cards to flirt with both the West and the East, because most of the world community recognized his regime as illegitimate ...” “Each new step of the West to isolate Lukashenka makes him even more dependent on Moscow. Now this addiction has become final, ”echoes the Wall Street Journal. What do you want, gentlemen ?! It was necessary to introduce more sanctions, and to put forward demands even more impracticable - like the immediate transfer of power to Tikhanovskaya and her gang. And more often to call the Belarusian leader “illegitimate” and “self-proclaimed”.

Now, understandably, the "world community" is engulfed in a terrible cognitive dissonance. On the one hand, Lukashenka is a "tyrant and dictator" and he should be "punished". On the other hand, for some reason, it is impossible to do this using the old proven methods of the “color revolution” that have worked perfectly in Ukraine. And as a result, something comes out completely opposite to what the whole mess, in fact, was started for. At the summit of the European Union, which was hastily assembled after the Ryanair incident, this issue was voiced, according to available information, very sharply. The meeting was strictly confidential, furnished with such measures of conspiracy that would fit a spy meeting, and not a meeting of heads of state. At the request of the head of the European Council Charles Michel, they were even strictly forbidden to use mobile phones during it. But some information was still leaked. The alarm was raised by none other than the head of European diplomacy Josep Borrell, who was the first to declare that the history of the forced landing of both the plane and the "oppositionist" would most likely "be used by Vladimir Putin in order to accelerate the implementation of his plan to absorb Belarus." Many of those present with this "brilliant" maxim of Monsieur Borrell agreed and from the Sochi meeting, respectively, they were waiting for the announcement of the merger of the two countries. But they did not wait, much to their surprise.

However, the deaf silence of the two leaders scares them even more - after all, really serious and important things are done in silence. The talk in the West that “the Kremlin used the deteriorating situation in Minsk and its need for lending to get new concessions” is, of course, not just superficial, but fundamentally wrong view of things. Everything is much deeper and more complicated.

Russia, as already mentioned, has no need to "demand" something from Belarus and its leader. At present, both countries are really confronting with a united front the previously unprecedented pressure of the "collective West", and here they can’t get away from each other. For Moscow, the loss of its only ally in the post-Soviet space would mean a colossal geopolitical failure. Minsk simply cannot survive without the support of our country - and the further it goes, the more obvious it is. Only those with a very rich imagination can seriously say that the Kremlin "dreams of removing Lukashenko from the presidency and replacing him with a politician who is more comfortable for them." Yes, Alexander Grigorievich, let's face it, is not the most flexible and convenient partner. However, it must be admitted that in the current conditions there is simply no alternative to it and there cannot be. In the midst of a battle, commanders do not change - unless they fail miserably everything that is possible. And Lukashenka, fortunately, copes quite successfully with his duties as head of state in the most difficult time for him.

Some in the West have high hopes for the upcoming meeting between Vladimir Putin and Joe Biden. This idea, for example, is voiced on the pages of the British Financial Times. They say that the American president "will decisively demand the observance of human rights in Belarus," and ... So what? Will our president obediently “surrender” Lukashenka and refuse his support? Well, yes, keep your pocket wider ... It should be noted that just after the summit in Sochi, Russian Deputy Foreign Ministry Sergei Ryabkov voiced Moscow's intention on the eve of the meeting of the Russian and US presidents "to give Washington a number of signals that would be uncomfortable for him," without specifying, true, what exactly is it about. So who will "decisively demand" from whom and what exactly is still a very big question. No, Vladimir Vladimirovich and Alexander Grigorievich seem to have come to an agreement to something very important. So we are waiting for surprises.
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  1. Sergey Latyshev Offline Sergey Latyshev
    Sergey Latyshev (Serge) 1 June 2021 09: 41
    -8
    The West is not the West, and our media is really excited.
    So you want to swallow that you can't sleep, but no, nothing is clear yet ...

    It's already Tuesday, but daddy didn't seem to recognize Crimea ...
  2. Bulanov Online Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) 1 June 2021 10: 13
    +8
    Was it possible to absorb the GDR?
    And here's yesterday's news:

    Today it became known that the plane of the FR1901 Dublin-Krakow flight landed at the Berlin airport. The landing was unplanned. According to the latest information, the pilots received information that an explosive device was on board the airliner. Moreover, the message was received from German dispatchers, who, in turn, received a letter with threats from unknown persons. The letter, as stated, contains information that the plane is mined.

    And if Osama bin Laden or Snowden were on board, he would not have been arrested by the German authorities?
  3. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
    Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 1 June 2021 10: 47
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    With a friend like Lukashenka, you don't need enemies. His power, as it turned out, rests exclusively on bayonets. The number of citizens of the country who are in favor of Alexander Grigorievich leaving Belarus alone and leaving in any direction was skyrocketing. And it clearly refutes the official result of the victory of the dictator in the elections. Strikingly similar to the presidential elections in Syria, where Assad scored 95%. Putin is a pro and is not going to take the Belarusian miracle into the Russian Federation, at least officially. What for? The current situation in the Russian Federation, as for me, is completely satisfactory. But Batske has nowhere to go anyway. Most likely, the GDP just calmed the emotional Lukashenka, they say, don't drift, Grigorych - we'll break through. And he will not give money. Because everything is fine in Russia, only there is no money. "But you hold on!" (A.D. Medvedev).
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) 1 June 2021 11: 44
      +10
      The number of citizens of the country who are in favor of Alexander Grigorievich leaving Belarus alone and leaving in any direction was skyrocketing. And it clearly refutes the official result of the victory of the dictator in the elections.

      Interesting logic you have laughing
      In this case, I find it difficult to say what the dictator Netanyahu is sitting on because it is obscene. The people are buzzing ... Maybe you will already go over to democracy and hold free elections like in Syria?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX0dVk60SAk

      Putin is a pro and is not going to take the Belarusian miracle into the Russian Federation, at least officially. What for? The current situation in the Russian Federation, as for me, is completely satisfactory. But Batske has nowhere to go anyway.

      This is our business, we ourselves will figure out who to take whom not to take. Deal with yourself there, demolish illegal settlements.

      But he will not give money. Because everything is fine in Russia, only there is no money. "But you hold on!"

      We are not the USA, we do not buy anyone. Get rid of the psychology of limitrophes, get rid of foreign handouts.
      1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
        Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 1 June 2021 12: 37
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        Calling Netanyahu a dictator is a demonstration of intellectual squalor. Is the dictator prosecuted and currently on trial? A dictator who has been unable to form a coalition to form a government for two years now? As a result, the country has held four elections in the past two years. They did not give any of the opposing sides a decisive advantage. A dictator for and against whom demonstrations are being held? During which, unlike Belarus, people are not maimed, arrested or killed. About free elections in Syria during the civil war and Assad's "victory" with a score of 95: 5 - is this a joke?
        Will you personally figure out whether to take Belarus into the Russian Federation or not? If you are, then you have delusions of grandeur. Perhaps you are the king of all Russia. Like Peter the Great. No - higher
        Much. About the demolition of settlements. I personally am not going to demolish anything. If the left comes to power, it will be demolished. On our own, or rather our head. So, every single settlement in Gaza was demolished at the request of the "world community", and they left the sector. Israel was promised at the UN level that after that the Jewish state would receive the same calm border as between Belgium and Holland. Received.
        Israel and handouts ?! With 450 billion GDP, which is many times greater than the Russian one? Have you been trying to get Israel for an hour with the beggars of Belarus, or Syria? That’s the citizens of the CIS, by hook or by crook they’re trying to get into Israel, at least with a carcass or with a scarecrow. Illegals at rough work from Russia, Moldova, Ukraine, Georgia, we have 150 thousand. Average salary in Israel -3200 dollars per month. Are you talking about limitrophes? Oh well...
        1. 123 Offline 123
          123 (123) 1 June 2021 13: 01
          +4
          Calling Netanyahu a dictator is a demonstration of intellectual squalor. Is the dictator prosecuted and currently on trial? A dictator who has been unable to form a coalition to form a government for two years now? As a result, the country has held four elections in the past two years. They did not give any of the opposing sides a decisive advantage. A dictator for and against whom demonstrations are being held? During which, unlike Belarus, people are not maimed, arrested or killed. About free elections in Syria during the civil war and Assad's "victory" with a score of 95: 5 - is this a joke?

          Why not? I can. I can repeat Netanyahu a dictator. Why can you glue labels, but not others?
          Well, since the defendant is also prosecuted in power, then it is definitely a dictator. As far as I understand, criminals are removed from power, at least for the duration of the investigation.
          Can't Build a Coalition? So the dictator is a loser. All he has to do is to escalate the situation, look he will draw you into a big war in order to divert attention from himself.
          Not maimed or arrested? Are you seriously? Have you arrested anyone at all? Quite quite? You have rockets flying there, blowing up houses. Are there any crippled?
          95: 5 this is not a joke, but a demonstration of the unity of the people, support by the overwhelming majority of the current president. Assad secured a majority for himself, he does not need a coalition, unlike some ... And elections, unlike the United States, dead souls do not vote there. And if you want to compare with Afghanistan ... the conditions for holding elections there are even more fun.

          Will you personally figure out whether to take Belarus into the Russian Federation or not? If you are, then you have delusions of grandeur. Perhaps you are the king of all Russia. Like Peter the Great. No - higher
          A lot.

          I wrote it myself and not myself. What megalomania are you talking about? Our people (Russia and Belarus) are able to decide themselves whether to live in one country or in different ones.
          Or do you claim the right to determine?

          About the demolition of settlements. I personally am not going to demolish anything. If the left comes to power, it will be demolished. On our own, or rather our head. So, every single settlement in Gaza was demolished at the request of the "world community", and they left the sector. Israel was promised at the UN level that after that the Jewish state would receive the same calm border as between Belgium and Holland. Received.

          It's you there to figure out what and when to demolish. I just showed your problem, so take care of it, and we'll somehow do it ourselves ...

          Israel and handouts ?! With 450 billion GDP, which is many times greater than the Russian one? Have you been trying to get Israel with the beggars of Belarus for an hour or Syria? That’s the citizens of the CIS, by hook or by crook, they’re trying to get into Israel even with a carcass or with a stuffed animal. Illegals from Russia, Moldova, Ukraine, Georgia, we have 150 thousand. Average salary in Israel -13200 dollars per month. Are you talking about limitrophes? Oh well...

          And what about Israel's "GDP, which is many times greater than the Russian" aid from the United States? It turns out interestingly, it means you can talk about the poor Belarusians, but I don’t have any American handouts?

          That’s the citizens of the CIS, by hook, and more by crook, they are trying to get into Israel, even with a carcass, even with a scarecrow. Illegals from the Russian Federation, Moldova, Ukraine, Georgia, we have 150 thousand. The average salary in Israel is $ 13200 a month. Are you talking about limitrophes? Oh well...

          What interesting information good And where can you look at the data on the number of Russians "climbing scarecrow"? How many are there? Who are these people?
          and what about Georgia, Ukraine, Moldova, we found something to surprise laughing Their life is more and more fun, you know the path to European integration winked
          You all have salaries of $ 13200, throw off Bibi for a weapon, save him from American aid.
          1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
            Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 1 June 2021 15: 21
            -6
            Answers in the sequence of your arguments.
            1. According to Netanyahu. I agree. You can be called Bibi - a dictator. Why not? It is your opinion. You have the right. Only the rationale is lame. I paid attention to this. There is the benefit of the doubt. A person is considered innocent until a court verdict comes into force against him. There are no dictators of losers. If he is a loser, he is either a dead man, like Ceausescu, Mussolini, Hitler, or a fugitive, like Idi Amin, Pol Pot.
            2. "No one is arrested, but rockets fly, houses are blown up"
            And what about the peaceful demonstrations against and for Netanyahu? Which were not prohibited even during the "corona" epidemic? Don't confuse God's gift with scrambled eggs. I followed your link. What he saw, in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation and in any country, is called mass riots. And the reaction of the Israeli authorities is appropriate. As for me, it is overly soft.
            3. "The election results for Lukashenko and Assad are a demonstration of the unity of the nation." Amid mass protests and civil war? Then of course. There are even more typical examples. In Haiti, 105% of voters voted for Pope Doc. Are you sponsoring?
            4. "By megalomania". You wrote "We'll figure it out ourselves." So I reacted that you - "It is we by the grace of God" ...
            5. About the problems of Israel. Let's figure it out. Already figured out. Famously. 3400 modern missiles with 100-250 kg warheads. explosives, with a flight range of 250 km., with a simultaneous launch along different trajectories - into milk. Tel Aviv is 70 km away. Our air defense turned out to be on top. Compare with losses in Gaza. But you are right. This is our question. Although Muslim countries do not think so. The commission was created to investigate the cleansing of the faces of terrorists.
            6. Getting help from the United States. $ 3 billion for defense. Not a lot, against the background of 450 billion. GDP of Israel. For the fact that Israel stopped production of the Kfir fighter, which was pushing the F -16 in foreign markets.
            7. "Russians are illegal immigrants in Israel." In 2020, there were 14000 illegal Russians in Israel. For 9 million Israel - a lot. 6 thousand Russians were denied entry into the country. Because of the fear that they will remain to work illegally.
            1. 123 Offline 123
              123 (123) 1 June 2021 15: 49
              +5
              1) Only the rationale is lame. I drew attention to this. There is the benefit of the doubt. A person is considered innocent until a court verdict comes into force against him.

              Reasonable position. yes Leave a reference to the verdict on Lukashenka? smile

              2) What does this have to do with peaceful demonstrations against and for Netanyahu? Which were not prohibited even during the "corona" epidemic? Don't confuse God's gift with scrambled eggs. I followed your link. What he saw, in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation and in any country, is called mass riots. And the reaction of the Israeli authorities is appropriate. As for me, it is overly soft.

              Demonstrations they are in Africa, demonstrations, by the way, riots too. In Belarus, this is also an article of the Criminal Code. What is the essence of the claims is not clear. request Or are there exclusively peaceful "onizhedeti"?

              3) "The election results for Lukashenko and Assad are a demonstration of the unity of the nation." Amid mass protests and civil war? Then of course. There are even more typical examples. In Haiti, 105% of voters voted for Pope Doc. Are you sponsoring?

              How are your riots different from theirs? Civil war worried about? I wrote to you about Afghanistan, there were also elections there. Do you have any complaints about them?
              105% are you not referring to Biden and dead souls?

              Point 5 is not particularly relevant to the case, this is another topic, I do not see the point of going deeper.

              6) Getting help from the USA. $ 3 billion for defense. Not a lot, against the background of 450 billion. GDP of Israel. For the fact that Israel stopped production of the Kfir fighter, which was pushing the F -16 in foreign markets.

              Has the top leadership sold the interests of the country? Gave up the fighter jet and export earnings? And all for a measly 3 billion a year? Maybe it's time to resume production? They say they want to remove the F-16 from production.

              7) 6 thousand Russians were denied entry into the country. Because of the fear that they will remain to work illegally.

              I would like more details. The link does not work. Try to break it into pieces and with a column ..., I'll put it together.
              1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
                Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 1 June 2021 15: 58
                -7
                We exchanged views, then there will be reruns. This is useless. The copied link opens for me. Only not the link itself, but below there will be a line in blue. Do not suffer. Here is the title of the publication, Russian by the way.
                14.000 Russians are illegally in Israel. Russian Foreign Ministry complains about deportation to Ben Gurion
                1. 123 Offline 123
                  123 (123) 1 June 2021 16: 39
                  +1
                  Thank you. Managed to open it. Looked ..., leafed through what else is on the topic. As I understand it, the problem should be divided into 2 parts.
                  1) There are "difficulties" in entering the country. Motivation, fears that will remain. Many tourists complain. There were retaliatory measures, searches and deportation of Israelis from Russia. As far as I understand, the number of deportees was exaggerated on both sides.
                  In the end, it seems, we agreed more or less ...
                  https://www.rbc.ru/politics/19/12/2019/5dfbcd749a79475306c561a2
                  https://www.tourprom.ru/news/44931/
                  2) Some Russians are trying to stay. Gazeta.ru writes that in 7 months of 2019 ...

                  584 Russians stayed in Israel illegally
                  about 2 Russians (slightly more than 177% of the total tourist flow) asked for asylum. (It is not clear where the data for 1 is what )
                  According to the statistics of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation, in 2017 this figure was 635 people. In 2016, there were 395 such cases, in 2015 - 14, in 2013 - three, in 2014, as well as for the entire period from 2009 to 2012 - not a single one

                  To be honest, I am not familiar with the problem, I find it difficult to say something definite. I would be grateful for more detailed information. How much, in what year have arrived. Russians or "transiters" (in the sense of getting a passport and moving on). In general, I would like more details and statistics.
                  1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
                    Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 1 June 2021 17: 54
                    0
                    I would not say that this topic interested me especially. There are just about 154 thousand illegal immigrants in Israel. More than 50 thousand of them are from Africa. Do not work, drug addiction, crime, infections, etc. With illegal immigrants from the CIS countries, not everything is simple either. Georgians and Ukrainians are especially different. Here, illegal immigrants are closely tied with local - immigrants from these countries. Those they organize work, housing, transportation, cover. Well, they themselves have, of course. They are competitors to the Israelis. 2000 dollars for illegal immigrants is serious money. Again, a violation of safety regulations, no rights, live in the most terrible conditions. The main thing for them is to make money. Like Tajiks in the Russian Federation. The media practically do not write about Russian illegal immigrants. I suspect a lot of them are ladies. It is very difficult to find a bride in Israel. This is a market segment. Many come to get married and stay. My neighbor so spied a lady from Lviv. Illegal person. She worked as a waitress in the restaurant. Married - live in perfect harmony. A life . Anything can happen.
                    1. 123 Offline 123
                      123 (123) 1 June 2021 19: 42
                      +3
                      154 thousand is relatively small, our Ministry of Internal Affairs threatens to expel over a million. I think the number of "guests" is somewhat higher.
                      https://www.rbc.ru/politics/16/04/2021/60797bd69a79474a8e4db610

                      Who is coming to you from us is not clear, but that there is not without crime, that's for sure. Why he asked about the "transit countries", there is an assumption - they arrived, received citizenship further.
                      2 thousand bourgeois money at the exchange rate turns out well, about 150 thousand at the exchange rate, but what would an illegal go somewhere for the sake of them ... Roughly speaking, the average salary of state employees is about 40 thousand, if the "bosses" are removed somewhere 30. In the bank some sort of sit for about the same. Civil servants have an average of about 60. Why am I talking about them, it’s work to sit in the office to wipe the pants, and not somewhere in the taiga to cook a pipeline, and especially not in a foreign land hunching underground. The ruble exchange rate fell, but inside the country it did not affect so much, the purchasing power did not fall so much. In principle, it is possible to live on this money, although not elegant. If you want, you can earn more. Stupidly on the site, without any searches, the seller in the store - 35 thousand, the sales manager is there for 100 thousand, the assistant driller (here it is already necessary to plow) - 130 thousand.
                      https://khanty-mansiysk.zarplata.ru/

                      That in general for the country I can not say, the site opened does not work, the update is stupid, probably later there will be an opportunity to look.
                      https://trudvsem.ru/vacancy/search?_regionIds=8600000000000
                2. Stanislav Bykov Offline Stanislav Bykov
                  Stanislav Bykov (Stanislav) 1 June 2021 17: 21
                  +2
                  14000 out of 140 million ... is it not funny to you yourself? What are you trying to say by this? That Russians are massively bursting with you to earn money? But according to data for 2020

                  In Russia, according to the Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia, about a million Jews live, of which only slightly more than 200 are active members of the communities, said FEOR President Alexander Boroda. According to him, the federation strives for their share to at least double.

                  How many of them are illegal immigrants who should be sent a big question, this is, firstly, well, and secondly, if everything is so fine with you, why do not they move from Russia to Israel, but continue to live where "there is no money, but you hold on "something is wrong here request
                  1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
                    Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 1 June 2021 17: 40
                    0
                    14000 for tiny Israel - 250 for the Russian Federation. This is the first thing. Your reference to the assessment of the Federation of Jewish Communities about the residence of as many as one million Jews in the Russian Federation is not correct. The very word "estimate" is infinitely far from statistics. But according to it, the official one, there are 165 thousand Jews in the Russian Federation. But this is not true either. Because all those who have left since 1990 have left Russian citizenship. And it is believed that they allegedly live in the Russian Federation. And on the basis of the false premise of the "assessment" of the public organization, you draw an equally false conclusion: why did not all the Jews move to Israel? We even moved very much. Therefore, this should be funny to you ... Look for the sake of the interest of the HDI of Israel and Russia. And you yourself will get the answer: who, where, why and why? For reference, although you probably already know. HDI is an index of human development based on 13 main indicators of the economy, prices, cost of living, etc. All countries are categorized by HDI categories. Very high to low. Israel and the Russian Federation are among the countries with a very high HDI level. Well, the places are occupied by completely different ones. hi
                    1. 123 Offline 123
                      123 (123) 1 June 2021 19: 56
                      +2
                      Take a look for the sake of the interest of the HDI of Israel and Russia.

                      I happened to see it here ... As for me, the indicator is extremely dubious.

                      When preparing the study, also many factors are taken into accountcharacterizing the political, economic, social and environmental situation in the countries and regions covered by the study, such as human rights and civil liberties situation, the opportunity to participate in public life, social security, the degree of territorial and social mobility of the population, indicators of the level of cultural development, access to information, health, unemployment, crime, environmental protection, environmental burden and others.

                      The indicator is very subjective, especially considering that:

                      The greatest difficulty in calculating Index associated with the need to obtain comparable indicators in the absence of the necessary social statistics in many developing countries, and in some areas - in some countries with economies in transition. It should also be noted that that hSome of the data provided by national statistical offices is not always reliable, since some governments are deliberately embellishing the situation in their countries.

                      They are sure there that Putin's Chekists with Mauzers on the gateways are strangling freedom, and the "freedom-loving" Balts have added + 100500 to their karma laughing
                      1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
                        Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 1 June 2021 21: 22
                        +1
                        These moments are, of course, there. But the HDI is a globally recognized indicator. Although the tolerances that you referred to must be taken into account. And it is probably worth comparing with GDP.
  4. gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) 1 June 2021 13: 24
    -5
    "Takeover is preparing!" Why the West was worried about the meeting between Putin and Lukashenko

    - Yes, what kind of absorption is there ...
    - Personally, I'm just tired of writing about this Lo (Lukashenko) ... - Well, what's new ??? - Something has changed ??? - Someone hopes for something ???
    -This Lo must be changed immediately (I have already written about this many times too) ... - just immediately ... - and Russia continues to play with Lo in the same game ... - "you are our prankster and mischief-maker" ...
    - And everyone sees it ... - Sees Ukraine, which can always hope for Law's support in carrying out "any foreign policy" of Ukraine against Russia ... - absolutely anyone ... - and Law will always and in everything support Ukraine ... - is not it ??? - And all the same Law will always support (with his meaningful "promising silence", his "neutrality") the "Western coalition" in carrying out all kinds of actions against Russia ... - including American actions against Russia ... - Isn't that so ???
    - Such are the unpretentious children's "exam questions" and Lo immediately pours on them ...
    - A., If something is "more complicated" ... - then Law will simply betray Russia and just go over to the side of the enemy ... - That's right ... - just go over to the side of the enemy ...
    - And the fact that today Lo allegedly quarreled with the West ... - all this means absolutely nothing ... - absolutely nothing ... - The West will continue to "develop" Lo and "rely" on him ... - and counting is not unreasonable.
    - Today Lo is Anwar Sadat, who has gone into oblivion (already too, personally, I wrote about it) ...
    - And Belarus itself is similar to the Russian Kurils .; on which the Japanese never stop "licking their lips" ... - But the Kuril Islands are at least Russian territory ... - But in Belarus, everything can change literally instantly ... overnight ... - The hope that Belarus can become Russian "fort by post" is absolutely illusory ... And Lo is very dangerous ... - especially now ... - and why Russia continues to clatter with this Lo ... - it will not lead to good ...
    - Yes, but Russia will still "throw" Lo ... and all kinds of preferences ... - will also provide ...
    -
    1. Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
      Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 1 June 2021 17: 39
      +2
      If you are already tired, why are you writing?
      Have a rest.
  5. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) 1 June 2021 18: 39
    +4
    Takeover, an act of unfriendly and clearly propaganda. The union state predetermines certain concerted actions in different spheres while maintaining the sovereignty of everyone, and an extra voice of Belarus in European and international institutions of the Russian Federation will not hurt, just as the support of the Russian Federation to Belarus is a mutual interest. Therefore, some kind of rapprochement within the framework of the union state is ripe, which fundamentally contradicts the policy of the Western "partners", and we will soon see which and in what areas.
  6. Petr Vladimirovich (Peter) 1 June 2021 22: 25
    +2
    So, for a friendly info.
    There were any surnames in the class. Personally, my na - s.
    Only recently, at 50 years of release, it was found out. Zhenya is a millionaire, factories in the Ivanovo province, Sasha, worked in Kiev, too. One girl in Germany.
    And so why, all apartments, dachas, cars, children, grandchildren are the usual middle class ...
    1. Kofesan Offline Kofesan
      Kofesan (Valery) 2 June 2021 04: 55
      +1
      "Before" was before. In fact, nobody was interested in "nationality". Although there was a page in the passport.

      And now?
      The column "nationality" has disappeared from the passport, but a sense of self-identification has appeared. Not without pride, of course.

      As a green youth, I, brought up on ... including the books of Pikul, knowing how much Russian blood was shed in the fight against the Tatar-Turkic slave traders for the Crimea ... with great bewilderment I learned that Crimea is "Ukrainian" and not " Russian". I was unpleasantly amazed. How so? I was 14 years old ...

      Now I think that Khrushchev was a "Ukrainian", with a secret desire to please his "Kiev", and at the same time his nationality, his nation, "to the detriment of the other, despite the surname in" -ev "...

      But, here ... what is interesting, I still DO NOT ask myself: "What nationality was Pikul?"
  7. shinobi Offline shinobi
    shinobi (Yuri) 2 June 2021 03: 31
    +2
    They were deciding how to live on in conditions close to war. Bombs are not falling yet, but the fact that the war is going on is doubted only by those who are fundamentally not on friendly terms with their heads.
  8. Digital error Offline Digital error
    Digital error (Eugene) 2 June 2021 09: 18
    0
    the summit of the presidents of Russia and Belarus with good reason can be called one of the most "closed" events of this kind

    Still would. For the first time, there was nothing on the agenda except "give me money" without any conditions. What (the second "trench") was reported by Peskov, having destroyed the "blank wall of silence" lol And a list of some "Russian oligarchs" has been drawn up, of which (entrepreneurs with political aspirations and a desire to use their money to influence politics), as Peskov put it, is not in Russia. But there are foreign agents yes