The expert explains the reason for Poland's deep hatred of Russia


On May 26, 2021, Polish President Andrzej Duda insulted the Russian Federation during his visit to Georgia. During his visit to the EU observer mission, he said that "Russia is not a normal country, it is an aggressor state." This outrageous statement only confirms the assertion of the authoritative Pole Lech Walesa, who in November 2020 called Dudu "a misfortune for Poland."


Duda's words commented on the newspaper "Sight" political scientist, journalist and historian Vladimir Kornilov. The expert noted that relatively recently, Duda called the Poles a more courageous people than the Russians. Therefore, another anti-Russian statement only confirms the presence of an atmosphere of hysteria, hatred and Russophobia in Poland.

In present-day Poland, one can still hear phantom pains over the lost empire (Rzeczpospolita - ed.), Which they dream of reviving in one form or another. They do not hide this, organizing various kinds of "Lublin Projects" with the participation of Ukraine and Lithuania. Therefore, the doctrine of modern Poland lies precisely in nostalgia for the lost empire, and hence - fierce hatred for those who destroyed it. Russophobia and anti-Russian sentiments are embedded in the very ideology of the Polish government

- he explained the reason for Poland's deep hatred of the Russian Federation.

Kornilov drew attention to the fact that Russophobes love to manipulate historical facts. They regularly blame Moscow alone for the three sections of the Rzecz Pospolita, which were implemented at the end of the XNUMXth century. Warsaw “forgot” that other neighbors of that time also took part in the division of the territory of the Polish-Lithuanian state. The elite of the Commonwealth with their ambition, claims and arrogance got the Prussian kingdom, the Russian Empire and the Habsburg monarchy so much that they took this step three times, until nothing remained of the Polish-Lithuanian state.

But Duda says nothing about western neighbors

- the expert noted.

Warsaw is trying to avoid uncomfortable topics, especially the centuries-old struggle with Moscow. For example, about the seizure of Russian cities and the attempt to put an impostor on the throne in the XNUMXth century. They pretend that they "do not remember" how the Poles marched to Moscow as part of Napoleon's army.

But in Warsaw, mass executions and murders in concentration camps of thousands of Russians in the period 1919-1921 are considered a feat. The expert emphasized that the Poles did not spare the Russians, they were indifferent to the "red", "white" and even supporters of Petliura. They killed everyone. Now they are proud of it and nobody has answered for it so far.
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  1. Petr Vladimirovich (Peter) 27 May 2021 19: 45
    +2
    Yes, this shobla does not understand a good attitude, from him it only becomes even more impudent ...
    1. Binder Offline Binder
      Binder (Miron) 27 May 2021 22: 44
      -2
      Here, Petya, such a moment takes place: when did the Poles see a good attitude from the Russians? These two peoples living in the neighborhood have long fought each other with varying success and the roots of national hostility are deep, both among the Poles and the Russians.
      1. Petr Vladimirovich (Peter) 27 May 2021 23: 00
        0
        Shalom Kume! How are you? Do not answer, I have already begun to worry, God forbid, Lord Kassam, what a new house and a freshly planted pineapple ...
        And you saw my surname on the photos of our RC forum, maybe Polish roots, HZ ... drinks
        1. Binder Offline Binder
          Binder (Miron) 27 May 2021 23: 07
          -4
          Business, lordly gentleman, what to do ... And the cashier is not as terrible as he is painted. bully
          1. Petr Vladimirovich (Peter) 27 May 2021 23: 19
            0
            This is for you, sir, know better. Then they threw a photo on Tsapu, a piece of pipe from the sky lies on the balcony ... You know my opinion about these questions ...
            1. Marzhecki Online Marzhecki
              Marzhecki (Sergei) 28 May 2021 09: 32
              +2
              Found a noble sidekick good
              1. Petr Vladimirovich (Peter) 28 May 2021 11: 25
                -2
                And on my forums, everyone is always "dear friends" and "dear colleagues", even those with whose opinion I strongly disagree ... fellow
      2. boriz Offline boriz
        boriz (boriz) 27 May 2021 23: 13
        +2
        These two peoples living in the neighborhood have long fought each other with varying success and the roots of national hostility are deep, both among the Poles and the Russians.

        So after all, in normal countries, feudal strife has remained in the distant past. Read the story of how the Tver people were cut with the residents of Vladimir, and then with the Muscovites. The same can be said about all Russian lands. And nothing, no one remembers it. There were very serious conflicts with Austrians, Hungarians, Germans, Finns, Turks. And nothing, as the situation is kept within normal limits.
        And Poland is a unique country. She was created by the Lord in order to destroy all alliances in which she enters. With amazing consistency.
        And everything comes from the mentality. The ambition is unreal. Powerless king. One rokosh is worth something. You have to think about it: the right of every snuffed, naked-ass nobleman to revolt against the king is legalized.
        Megalomania at the level of the spinal cord from birth. Moreover, each Pole individually can be arbitrarily pleasant in communication and an adequate person. But together! ...
        1. Binder Offline Binder
          Binder (Miron) 27 May 2021 23: 40
          -3
          Quote: boriz
          feudal strife remained in the distant past.

          Bloody conflicts between Russians and Poles, unfortunately, took place in much closer times. About the numerous Polish uprisings of the 19th century. I will not speak, but in the 20th century there was a famous campaign against Warsaw by Budyonny with Tukhachevsky in 1920. and 17.09. 1939 when the Red Army entered the war against Poland on the side of the Nazis. All these events took place quite recently on the scale of history, they did not have time to forget ...
          1. boriz Offline boriz
            boriz (boriz) 27 May 2021 23: 50
            +1
            Again you rape history as you want.
            The "famous campaign" happened after the Poles reached Kiev. The West drew them as a border - the Curzon line, and they pushed further, taking advantage of the fact that Soviet Russia had someone to fight with even without Poland. And Budyonny did not go to Warsaw. This is a little-sick Napoleon Tukhachevsky, Trotsky's henchman, stumbled without looking back and without reserves. And he lost the company, which was already practically won. Downy, damn it ...
            In 1939. Stalin simply returned what was captured in 1920. Exactly along the Curzon line, which Stalin did not invent. And Stalin participated on the side of the USSR, not Hitler.
            I propose to read how the Vilnius region fell into Poland, which Stalin returned to Lithuania. And Lithuania did not refuse.
            History at school should have been taught, not smoking.
            1. Binder Offline Binder
              Binder (Miron) 28 May 2021 12: 07
              -3
              Your knowledge of history is amazing! lol For general development, read at least the article in the Russian Wikipedia "1st Cavalry Army", the section "Participation in the Warsaw operation of the Red Army", and only then tell us that

              Quote: boriz
              Budyonny did not go to Warsaw

              And further -

              Quote: boriz
              In 1939. Stalin simply returned what was captured in 1920.

              Mil-man, Lvov was never Russian, like many other territories of Poland occupied by Soviet troops. And you still have the audacity to teach me:

              Quote: boriz
              History at school should have been taught, not smoking

              laughing laughing laughing
              1. boriz Offline boriz
                boriz (boriz) 28 May 2021 12: 38
                +2
                You are in your repertoire. Even if you limit your knowledge of the history of Wiki, you must also read Wiki carefully. For example, reading place names and tracking them on a map.
                -I Cavalry fought on the southern flank of the Polish front, diverting Polish units from the main direction. Tukhachevsky went directly to Warsaw. And he was not at all inclined to share the alleged laurels with Budyonny and Stalin. After all, he was going to go through Poland and bring the revolution to Germany. And he was one step away from the capture of Warsaw. But he was stupid, he went forward without reconnaissance and allocation of reserves. For which hundreds of thousands of soldiers of the Red Army paid.
                Only when a white fur-bearing animal suddenly crept up, the orders of the First Cavalry sounded this moment to come to the rescue. But the army was tied up in battles, there was no transport aviation.
                In any case, the first heirs were not surrounded by Tukhachevsky's troops. The distance was over 200 km.
                You have it.
                As for Lvov, Russian people have always lived there. The city is not named after the lions that ran around. laughing , and in honor of the son of Prince Daniel Galitsky, who founded this city (Russian, as you might guess). The son's name was Lev.
                For the alternatively gifted, I mentioned the Curzon Line as the border for Poland. It is named after Lord Curzon, who proposed and substantiated it. The main line of Curzon in the south runs WEST of Lviv.
                Google "Curzon Line".
                Better yet, read history literature. Very interesting. And it will save you from saying all sorts of nonsense.
                1. Binder Offline Binder
                  Binder (Miron) 28 May 2021 18: 18
                  -2
                  Quote: boriz
                  As for Lvov, Russian people have always lived there.

                  This is a strong argument for capturing the territory of a neighboring state. lol For especially creative thinkers, I will note that Jews have always lived in Odessa, however, Israel never claims to this city, and, say, Germans have always lived in Koenigsberg, Finns have always lived in Vyborg, but this circumstance was not an obstacle for the USSR to annex these cities to its territory. Here's a story. hi
                  1. boriz Offline boriz
                    boriz (boriz) 28 May 2021 19: 31
                    +1
                    ... Germans have always lived in Königsberg

                    What a complete nonsense. These were the lands of the Slavs and Prussians. The Teutonic Order appeared there in 1232. King of Poland Konrad I of Mazovia, from a great mind winked , invited them to help deal with the Prussians. And he suggested the city of Kulm. One. The Germans settled there and seized what they could. Until Comrade Stalin threw them out to their historical homeland.
                    The settlement in the Vyborg region was founded by Novgorodians. In 1293. they were driven out by the Swedes.
                    In general, the Finno-Ugric tribes appeared on the edge of Europe late. Northern (Finns) 2 years ago. Southern (Balts) 000 years ago. Aryans (later Scythians, Slavs) came to Europe 1 years ago. On the territory of Eastern Europe - 500 years ago.
                    But, in any case, the Swedes were thrown out of Finland by Alexander I at the very beginning of the 19th century. The state of Finland is the creation of Comrade. Lenin. The year is 1918. They did not conquer statehood themselves, they got it on occasion.
                    And no one is interested in the fact that some Finns lived there. Kurds, of whom, for a minute, 40 million people, have been living without a state for many thousands of years. And no one is in a hurry to give them statehood.
                    In general, I'm tired of dispelling your historical denseness.
                    You don't know the history. And where you can’t do anything, you don’t have to want anything.
                    1. Binder Offline Binder
                      Binder (Miron) 28 May 2021 20: 06
                      -2
                      Quote: boriz
                      Aryans (later Scythians, Slavs) came to Europe 9 years ago. On the territory of Eastern Europe - 000 years ago.

                      And you say something else about my historical obscurity? lol Yeah...

                      Quote: boriz
                      where you can’t do anything, you don’t have to want anything.

                      Here I agree with you! good
                      1. boriz Offline boriz
                        boriz (boriz) 28 May 2021 20: 50
                        +1
                        I did not expect to hear from you something intelligible and meaningful.
                        As for the Aryans and Ugro-Finns - there is a rather new science of DNA genealogy. It is no longer accepted to argue with her data.
                        By order of a very serious Jewish organization, one of the founders of this science, Anatoly Klyosov, conducted research on the genetics of the Cohens. This is such a "very urgent" problem, when the end of the world comes, the Jews are supposed to take the necessary actions real descendants of the original Cohens. I don't remember the details. Klyosov conducted research, presented the results and substantiated. The Jews were completely satisfied, Klyosov (additionally) was awarded a gold medal for this.
                        So giggling at the data of this science is simply stupid. They are generally accepted and well known.
                        Well, apart from you, of course.
                      2. Binder Offline Binder
                        Binder (Miron) 28 May 2021 21: 27
                        -2
                        None of normal people will giggle at DNA, but it is stupid to take Mr. Klyosov seriously. However, it's up to you ...
      3. Oder Offline Oder
        Oder (Wojciech) 28 May 2021 10: 39
        0
        Every country has a history. It is difficult for us to come to terms with our, and you with our history. Everyone has their own point of view. Until we reach an agreement with each other, we will carefully look at each other.
        1. boriz Offline boriz
          boriz (boriz) 28 May 2021 16: 59
          0
          The story is the same for all. Interpretations are different. Everyone sees what is convenient for him. And he closes his eyes to what he doesn't like.
    2. oracul Offline oracul
      oracul (leonid) 28 May 2021 07: 59
      +1
      Here, Miron, there is such a moment - you need to know history without reading only someone's personal opinion on the Internet, and for this you need, for example, to get acquainted with the assessment of the partition of Poland by the historian V.O. Klyuchevsky. So, Germany and Austria sought to assimilate the Poles, while Russia retained their privileges, the Diet, granted a constitution that the Russians did not have. In gratitude, the uprising of Kosciuszko. It would be nice to know that in the "time of troubles" the Poles almost reached Arkhangelsk. Think about where Poland is, and where is the White Sea.
      1. Binder Offline Binder
        Binder (Miron) 28 May 2021 12: 17
        -3
        Quote: oracul
        So, Germany and Austria sought to assimilate the Poles,

        Poles-Catholics in a completely natural way integrated into the social relations of Prussia and Austria-Hungary, in Orthodox Russia it was more difficult for them to do this.

        Quote: oracul
        in the "time of troubles" the Poles almost reached Arkhangelsk. Think about where Poland is, and where is the White Sea.

        As a result of the partitions of Poland, the Russians got to Warsaw, think about where is Russia and where is Warsaw.
    3. RUSSIA - FORCE Offline RUSSIA - FORCE
      RUSSIA - FORCE (RUSSIA - POWER) 1 June 2021 14: 03
      0
      Russians have always been deeply concerned about the Poles and other Russophobes ... This is not in the tradition of Russian winners. But the cowardly and arrogant mongrels - defeatists whine for centuries about the well-deserved punishments incurred from the Russians for their own provocations and crimes ..
  • shiva Offline shiva
    shiva (Ivan) 27 May 2021 19: 51
    +4
    The most offensive thing is that the historical Polish propaganda has taken root so deeply in our heads that in textbooks they write outright Polish lies about Ivan the Terrible - they say a tyrant, a despot, a murderer. In fact, during the reign of Grozny, there were ten times fewer executions than in enlightened Europe.
  • Fourth Horseman Offline Fourth Horseman
    Fourth Horseman (Fourth Horseman) 27 May 2021 20: 46
    0
    Let Kaczynski be dug up and buried again. Steam at least let out.
  • Just a cat Offline Just a cat
    Just a cat (Bayun) 27 May 2021 20: 59
    -2
    that this hohlyatsky "expert" avoided the topic of the Ukrainians, who went to Moscow with the Poles and killed the Russians ...
  • boriz Offline boriz
    boriz (boriz) 27 May 2021 23: 27
    0
    Another moment was missed by Kornilov.
    Austria and Prussia started the partition of Poland. But, since by this time Russia had already gained political weight and military power, Catherine II was also offered to participate. She refused. Then she was presented with a fact: she would be divided without her. I had to participate.
    So, Russia, weakened by internal confusion, Poland was fine as a buffer with Prussia and Austria. But the absorption of Poland "for two" strengthened Prussia and Austria beyond measure and too advanced their borders to the east. Therefore, I had to enter the share.
    A kind of "Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact" in the conditions of the 18th century.
    Russia's fault - too favorable conditions for the existence of Poland within the Russian Empire. In Prussia and Austria, the Poles did not dare to utter a word. And in Russia, already in the 19th century, the case ended twice with an uprising and massacre of Russians.
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    2. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
      Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 28 May 2021 11: 53
      -2
      Russia's fault - too favorable conditions for the existence of Poland within the Russian Empire. In Prussia and Austria, the Poles did not dare to utter a word. And in Russia, already in the 19th century, the case ended twice with an uprising and massacre of Russians.

      The history of any state has its own light and dark pages. And any state has its own heroes and antiheroes. But one should not categorically declare "too favorable conditions for the existence of Poland within the Russian Empire." Moreover, without links. Read the memoirs of General Denikin (Pole by mother's) "Notes of a Russian Officer". He was born and raised in Poland. And already on the first pages he points out that in Poland, on pain of criminal punishment, it was generally forbidden to communicate in the native Polish language. At the same time, allotments of Polish land were allocated to Russian soldiers in Poland (as well as in Finland) free of charge. RI was an absolute monarchy and Poland did not enjoy any privileges. Poland, not being an aggressor in World War II, lost the third most important city in Polish history - Lviv, as well as Rivne, Stanislav, Zhitomir, Lutsk. But thanks to the USSR, it has grown in German territories - Wroclaw (Breslau), Zelenogursky, Yelenogorsky provinces. The border passed along the Nissa River. But the same Stalin violated the treaty with Poland, signed after the defeat in the war with Soviet Russia, and did not "return his own." And they swaddled Poland with participation in the CMEA and the organization of the Warsaw Pact countries. The Russians also have complaints about the Poles. From the campaigns of the Poles to Moscow to False Dmitry. So the history of Russian-Polish relations is ambiguous. And it doesn’t boil down to good luck: good Russians and bad Poles. Or vice versa.
  • Kofesan Offline Kofesan
    Kofesan (Valery) 28 May 2021 04: 45
    +1
    What difference does it make how psheks treat us? "Very bad" or "very bad"?

    When will they be "in the teeth"? This is interesting!

    In my lifetime? Or before "36" - you can not even dream?
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  • bratchanin3 Offline bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 (Gennady) 28 May 2021 11: 29
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    In principle, the author is right! But normality, as it is understood in the West, is, in principle, unacceptable for Russia, and Russia should proudly declare this. Yes, Russia is not a Western state (empire), which means that it is not normal in the understanding of the West. Russia is a Russian (Euro-Asian) civilization and cannot be European in principle, especially with modern European values ​​...
  • Petr Vladimirovich (Peter) 28 May 2021 19: 36
    +1
    Not a branch, just a miracle.
    Obviously, no one has worked with the country and its businessmen, and never even been a tourist.
    Anonymous minusers - go ahead !!!
  • shinobi Offline shinobi
    shinobi (Yuri) 29 May 2021 05: 17
    +1
    Poland exists as long as it is allowed. What's the point of paying attention to the mongrel?