Israel strikes 20 km from Russian base Khmeimim in Syria


Israel continues to launch missile strikes on pro-Iranian militias in Syria. One of the most recent such attacks was carried out on the night of Wednesday, May 5, as reported by the Syrian Arab news agency SANA.


Explosions from Israeli rockets thundered in the vicinity of Tartus and Latakia. In response to the actions of the Israelis, the Syrian military used air defense systems, with the help of which several missiles were shot down.

Earlier, Al Ekhbariya reported one dead and one wounded. However, according to updated data, only one person was killed during the air raids and six were injured. A woman and a child were among the wounded. There was also damage to property.

The Latakia governor said in a statement that Israel's missile strikes were carried out at 02:18 local time (coinciding with Moscow time) on the coastal regions of the north-west of the province, as well as on a plant producing plastic products. Air defense systems of the SAR worked in Masyaf in the province of Hama and in Al-Haffe in Latakia - the last target of missile strikes is located two dozen kilometers from the Russian base Khmeimim.

The Israeli side traditionally refrained from commenting on the strikes on Syrian territory.
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  1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
    Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 5 May 2021 14: 56
    +3
    A blow, another blow, another blow, and behold, Boris Budkeev Krasnodar holds an uppercut.
    Since the air defense of the Assad regime, as always, operated successfully and all targets on the ground were hit .... Hel Aavir, proposals are urgently needed to prevent them from continuing. And not just "condemnation", but as it should, with the designation of targets on the territory of Israel. To crunch in half!) So, with the fire of the sofa batteries, for the tears of their barmale, for our Syria, fire, fire!)
    1. Dear sofa expert. 5 May 2021 21: 34
      0
      ... Krasnodar holds an uppercut ....

      My God, what a primitive (chubato-sharovarny) provocateur.

      I just wanted to slightly change the well-known poem, personally for such an idiot:

      .... Khokhol, you eat Jewish bread,
      And then you shit in a Jew's soup ...

      If I were Jews, I would give you a good kick in the ass, in the direction of Kyiva.
      1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
        Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 5 May 2021 23: 13
        -4
        Quote: Dear couch expert.
        ... Krasnodar holds an uppercut ....

        My God, what a primitive (chubato-sharovarny) provocateur.

        I just wanted to slightly change the well-known poem, personally for such an idiot:

        .... Khokhol, you eat Jewish bread,
        And then you shit in a Jew's soup ...

        If I were Jews, I would give you a good kick in the ass, in the direction of Kyiva.

        Touchet! I hit you well. I hit right in the place that you call your head, so to say: I gave it to your head. There is no need for hysterics, stringy saliva, since you got ridiculous with the answer, wash the sofa behind you. The publication specifically states that the Israeli Air Force struck a military facility. Have something to say on the topic? Not? Then I'll tell you. We beat, we beat and we will beat. And no one decides to us. Neither Iran, nor the United States, nor Russia, nor even you. However, neither the United States nor Russia is against it. Can you indicate your attitude to the attack by Hel Aavir?
        Or just this "explosion of emotions" of yours that resembles a famous sound. Well, what can I say about you, without naturally sinking to insults? And your level. Good girl, you are ours. In a good sense of the word. Avoid eating raw tomatoes at night to avoid hurting your stomach.
        1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
          Ulysses (Alexey) 5 May 2021 23: 26
          +2
          There is something to say on the topic. Not? Then I'll tell you. We beat, we beat and we will beat.

          According to media reports, one civilian was killed and six injured in one of the strikes.

          The homeless man is also proud of what he has done.
          1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
            Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 5 May 2021 23: 33
            -3
            Quote: Ulysses
            There is something to say on the topic. Not? Then I'll tell you. We beat, we beat and we will beat.

            According to media reports, one civilian was killed and six injured in one of the strikes.

            The homeless man is also proud of what he has done.

            We will make all the same admission that the media is still an interested party. The publication is about a military facility. Given the specificity of Islam, there simply could not be a woman at a military base. I will say more, if a woman were killed, I have no doubt for a minute that the media controlled by Assad (and there are simply no others there) would have named the name of the deceased and attached a photo. From all angles. I remember when the armored troops in the "Six Day War" were rushing to the Suez Canal, the Egyptian tank officer laconically, according to the charter, reported to the center: "I see Tel Aviv through binoculars!" One to one from the same Syrian soap opera.
            1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
              Ulysses (Alexey) 5 May 2021 23: 42
              +2
              Given the specifics of Islam, there simply could not be a woman at a military base

              Are you really not in the subject, or are you pretending?

              Well, for a dream coming to you ..

              Russian warships will accompany Iranian ships entering the Mediterranean Sea through the Suez Canal and delivering oil, wheat and other essential products to Syrian ports.

              They will beat you and it will be specific if you stick your nose ..
              1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
                Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 6 May 2021 00: 12
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                Quote: Ulysses
                Given the specifics of Islam, there simply could not be a woman at a military base

                Are you really not in the subject, or are you pretending?

                Well, for a dream coming to you ..

                Russian warships will accompany Iranian ships entering the Mediterranean Sea through the Suez Canal and delivering oil, wheat and other essential products to Syrian ports.

                They will beat you and it will be specific if you stick your nose ..

                It seems that you are not something that is not in the subject, but you probably missed that after the very agreements, the Iranian oil tanker was attacked. Without any consequences for the attackers. On "Reporter" about this and the publication was appropriate. Raise the site archive: see for yourself. And it never happens that you can hit with impunity from the air, but not at sea. In my opinion, there are agreements between Israel and the Russian Federation on the protection of Iranian ships with a certain range of cargo. Which implies their verification by the Russian Federation before the guard. It is possible that Israelis will participate in the check under the guise of Russians. Or strikes will be delivered by the Israeli Navy if necessary. There has already been a precedent.
        2. Dear sofa expert. 5 May 2021 23: 41
          +1
          Touchet! I hit you well. I hit right in that place ...

          Do not flatter yourself.) Not yet matured with his brains, swollen with fat, that would hurt someone here.

          You only cause a feeling of disgust and disgust.

          You hide behind your identity with a people that are intellectually large for you.

          The Jewish jacket, on your puny Bandera shoulders, hangs like a sack of potatoes on a garden scarecrow.
    2. John Hart Offline John Hart
      John Hart (John Hart) 5 May 2021 22: 17
      0
      where is the answer for our silt 18?
      1. Michael I Offline Michael I
        Michael I (Michael I) 5 May 2021 23: 11
        +3
        That's right, to judge the crooked Syrians
        1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
          Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 5 May 2021 23: 35
          -2
          Quote: Michael I
          That's right, to judge the crooked Syrians

          I agree. Only: "Who are the judges ?!"
      2. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
        Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 5 May 2021 23: 19
        -7
        Quote: John Hart
        where is the answer for our silt 18?

        Sorry, I did not understand. I have heard more than once about the lack of water and responsibility for it. And what actually happened to the IL-18? No irony: I hear it for the first time. I can only say that there is not a word about this in the publication. Despite the fact that I regularly look through the leading media, including the Russian Federation, I have not read a word about the IL-18 with which something apparently happened. Remind, be so kind.
  2. Kofesan Offline Kofesan
    Kofesan (Valery) 6 May 2021 06: 24
    0
    This is a "tricky" war. From the point of view of the attackers. In fact, there is nothing so "tricky". War, when some commit crimes, they know what they are doing, but they try to "accustom" to the idea that it is impossible to fight it in small steps. They will become impudent with a distant calculation.

    Israel is "allegedly" at war there with the Iranians. Erdogan "allegedly" "protects the Turks there. The US" allegedly "is losing arms, but for some reason it is always in favor of terrorists, and" supposedly "not terrorists are already being supplied openly. A sort of division of" labor "among freak friends.

    But all together they stifle the human, with the tiny steps of Eastern Hitler. Copy "dad", so to speak. Zionism, it turns out, can be more terrible and much more perverted than German fascism of the 1939 model.

    It's time for Assad to get hold of nuclear weapons, "supposedly" accidentally forgotten in a returnable container. So many "bombs", how many times Israel violated the state border of Syria. And do not pay attention to the answer. All the same, Israel wants only death. And us and Syria. And with the inaction of the Kremlin, it will achieve it. Moreover, the further, the more perverted the Israeli "small steps".

    What's the best way to die? Slow or fast?

    Better to burn half of Israel. There is a very tiny chance that the "second" will wake up !?

    This is the only way to survive. In other cases, there is no chance.
    1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
      Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 6 May 2021 08: 14
      -3
      Kofesan
      Lies can come in many different forms. Sometimes it is sophisticated, and sometimes it is rabid and primitive. Like yours, for example.
      Let's take the chronology of your "arguments".
      1. Israel is not at war "ostensibly with Iran." He is at war with Islamic Iran. Which not only officially set out to destroy the crumb of Israel, but also deployed military bases near its borders. Forgive us Kafesan Jews generously that we do not allow ourselves to be destroyed. And we won't. Despite the fact that the aggressor Syria has been at war with Israel since 1948, the Syrian-Israeli border was the most peaceful until the start of the civil war in that country. Iran has pulled up military bases to the borders of Israel, in response, it receives. "Do not worry Gozlodoev, we will beat carefully, but hard!" (The movie "The Diamond Arm".
      2. The sole purpose of Zionism is to build a prosperous Jewish state in which Jews will live happily and safely. And any Jew will be able to repatriate to his homeland. And this goal was achieved, in the shortest time, unprecedented in the history of mankind. Israel is one of the most developed countries on the planet. People of various nationalities believe to get to Israel and live in it for the happiness. But for some reason most of all are Slavs. Who are trying by hook or by crook to find Jewish roots. Which are not.
      3. Destroy Israel? Try it. Many have tried. And apart from the shame of defeats, they got nothing. And make peace with Israel. And the USSR collapsed.
      1. isofat Offline isofat
        isofat (isofat) 6 May 2021 13: 07
        +1
        Quote: Rogue1812
        Zionism's sole mission is to build a prosperous Jewish state in which Jews live happily and safely.

        You us, Tramp1812, were not surprised. German Nazis and Fascists they said the same thing as you, only about tiny Germany, offended by everyone.

        And it is not good for you to blame other peoples. There is a reason not to do this. It is very simple - even a frail spine, your Jewish identity, scholars not found... But the roots of other peoples, the same Slavs, are above the roof. laughing
        1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
          Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 6 May 2021 17: 26
          -4
          Quote: isofat
          Quote: Rogue1812
          Zionism's sole mission is to build a prosperous Jewish state in which Jews live happily and safely.

          You us, Tramp1812, were not surprised. German Nazis and Fascists they said the same thing as you, only about tiny Germany, offended by everyone.

          And it is not good for you to blame other peoples. There is a reason not to do this. It is very simple - even a frail spine, your Jewish identity, scholars not found... But the roots of other peoples, the same Slavs, are above the roof. laughing

          Inappropriate comparison of Nazi Germany and Zionist Israel.
          And that's why :
          1. The Third Reich is a totalitarian state with the absence of three independent and independent branches of government, namely: legislative, executive and judicial. They are available in Israel.
          2. The Third Reich is a racist state. Where a person's location in society was determined by his ethnicity. In particular, the racial "Nuremberg Laws" were adopted, the so-called. Untermensch, which included most of the peoples of the world. There is not a single racial law in Israel, any incitement to ethnic hatred is prosecuted, Israeli Arabs are represented in the Knesset by the third largest faction, have the highest level of education among all Arab countries. Finally, a representative of any race can become a Jew by nationality, mixed marriages are not persecuted, in Israel nationality is not indicated in any of the documents. Entry into Israel and obtaining citizenship, on the basis of the 1950 Law of Return, is allowed to anyone who has at least a Jewish grandfather. And to all their close relatives. Was this in Nazi Germany? Oxt.;
          3. Germany waged aggressive wars, annexing the territories of other countries. Israel is only defending itself: it is attacked, not he. When the world lost count of how many times Israel offered peace and received war in return. Israel has no territorial acquisitions, unlike, say, the Russian Federation.
          5. You have the courage to compare the antipodes and accuse Israel of fascism. We would have looked at the officially adopted clear definition of fascism given by the Academy of Sciences of the Russian Federation.
          6. Jews throughout history have had a common religion, a common culture, a common past, they were not like others. And they didn't want to be alike. And they did not mix with anyone, until the beginning of the 20th century. But on the way of the extinction of the Jews as a nation, due to assimilation, Zionism stood up. This question has been cleared. Almost 50% of Jews live in Israel, 38% in the United States. And only 11% are exclusively in Western Europe. The rest of the world accounts for 1%. Almost all 1.7 million Jews of the USSR left.
          7.What to say about the publication? A flood, as always.
          1. isofat Offline isofat
            isofat (isofat) 6 May 2021 18: 11
            +2
            Tramp1812, you are hindering an objective assessment of events with your Zionist lies! This is my answer to you, take it as axioms.

            7. Israel struck 20 km from the Russian base Khmeimim in Syriawhat kind of state is this? (The topic of our discussion)

            Please:

            1. Israel has the same dependent branches of government as in Nazi Germany.
            2. Israel has been a racist state for sixteen years, the racists of the United States helped with the repeal of the resolution.
            3. Israel is also waging aggressive wars, like Nazi Germany is growing in territories, according to its Israeli rules.
            four.-"-
            5. We look at Israel and define fascism, there are many definitions of fascism today, there will be one more.
            6. The Jews mingled with all the nations in a row. Historians question the existence of the Jewish people. See the video below! laughing
            1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
              Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 6 May 2021 18: 28
              -4
              Quote: isofat
              Tramp1812, you are hindering an objective assessment of events with your Zionist lies! This is my answer to you, take it as axioms.

              7. Israel struck 20 km from the Russian base Khmeimim in Syriawhat kind of state is this? (The topic of our discussion)

              Please:

              1. Israel has the same dependent branches of government as in Nazi Germany.
              2. Israel has been a racist state for sixteen years, the racists of the United States helped with the repeal of the resolution.
              3. Israel is also waging aggressive wars, like Nazi Germany is growing in territories, according to its Israeli rules.
              four.-"-
              5. We look at Israel and define fascism, there are many definitions of fascism today, there will be one more.
              6. The Jews mingled with all the nations in a row. Historians question the existence of the Jewish people. See the video below! laughing

              All your counter-arguments are "Cloud in pants". Demagoguery and no specifics. It is interesting to debate with an educated person, not a convinced one like you.
              1. isofat Offline isofat
                isofat (isofat) 6 May 2021 19: 09
                +2
                Tramp1812, I didn't want to tell you, but apparently I have to. You read your nonsense, to which I have to answer. My answers are at least laconic. They are in full accordance with your comment, including the missing point.

                PS The nationalZionists the roof was blown off? Chao! hi
          2. trampoline instructor (Bazil Bazil) 6 May 2021 21: 55
            +3
            Finally, a representative of any race can become a Jew by nationality, mixed marriages are not persecuted, in Israel nationality is not indicated in any of the documents

            In my humble opinion, a member of any race will never become a Jew.... He can become a citizen of the State of Israel, but not a Jew.
            With regard to mixed marriages and the indication of nationality, then I can say the same about Russia.
            1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
              Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 6 May 2021 22: 24
              -4
              The Torah specifically says that a Jew is born of a Jewish mother, or converted to Judaism. This is the law of the country. And it has always been that way. Another thing is that it is very difficult to accept Judaism. To do this, you need to graduate from a religious school, pass exams and live for a long time in a religious Jewish family. It is somewhat easier to undergo conversion during military service. Now Bagats has made a decision on the admissibility of the reformist conversion for the citizens of Israel. Which, in my opinion, is correct and will help absorb 5% of the population who have tied their fate with Israel, but who are not Jews according to Halakha.
              1. trampoline instructor (Bazil Bazil) 6 May 2021 22: 34
                +3
                Another thing is that it is very difficult to accept Judaism.

                Exactly.

                There is a lot that is written in the Torah. And in the Bible, I think, it is written no less.

                And my scientific advisor once said that any person can become any person by nationality - if he knows perfectly the language, culture, customs, traditions, thinks in Chinese (Arabic, Spanish, English), he can really become Chinese ( an Arab, a Spaniard, or an Englishman).
                1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
                  Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 8 May 2021 07: 51
                  -2
                  trampoline zone instructor, I can't deny myself the pleasure of quoting you

                  There is a lot that is written in the Torah. And in the Bible, I think, it is written no less.

                  Cool ! Where did you study and gain such knowledge?
                  "Says my friend, barely breathing, where did you study Goluba, at the Central School of Art?"
    2. Alexzn Online Alexzn
      Alexzn (Alexander) 6 May 2021 08: 47
      -2
      Quote: Kofesan
      It's time for Assad to get hold of nuclear weapons, "supposedly" accidentally forgotten in a returnable container. So many "bombs", how many times Israel violated the state border of Syria. And do not pay attention to the answer. All the same, Israel wants only death. And us and Syria. And with the inaction of the Kremlin, it will achieve it. Moreover, the further, the more perverted the Israeli "small steps".

      What a beautiful solution! Destroy half of Israel by sacrificing all of Syria.
      And this man forbids us to pick our noses (compares with the Nazis in 1939)?
      1. Kofesan Offline Kofesan
        Kofesan (Valery) 6 May 2021 21: 26
        +2
        You have been asking for a long time. And your arguments are Zionist: "You are to blame for the fact that I want to eat"? These are snot, not arguments.

        Otherwise, they would not have remembered "international law" and the threat of "retaliatory strike against Syria" only when you suddenly needed it. And for what they have done, Syria has long received the right not only to one half ...

        A question of opportunities, not rights. International?!. And I said, and I continue to say that the necessary "opportunities" stop such scumbags as Israel, better than any appeal to the "law."

        ... A lyrical digression - Well, how much bukoff you have to spend on not the smartest of the Israelis ...

        Otherwise, Israel would not pissed off, not admitting to killings on foreign territory (Suleimani, Iranian nuclear scientists), violation of state borders, not publicly admitting to possess nuclear weapons, etc.

        Among others, Hitler reasoned so. Czechoslovakia, ... Poland, ... Would you use nuclear weapons against Hitler, would you have them then? And how are you today different from him?
        And better, without picking your nose, as for example in previous posts, answer directly to the question:

        When Iran has 100 bombs, will Israel's practice change? .... That's all ... to all your "arguments" !!!

        Once again, it's a pity that I had to spend so much time on not the smartest of "you" hi
        1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
          Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 7 May 2021 05: 14
          -1
          1. Suleimani was liquidated by the United States, as this power officially announced;
          2. Syria does not exist for a long time. The desert, most of it, is controlled by the Assad regime supported by the Russian Federation and Iran, the oil fields - by the Kurds, supported by the United States, the fertile agricultural (granary) zone - by Turkey, which annexed it. And he is not going to leave. The fighting in Syria is de facto frozen.
          1. Kofesan Offline Kofesan
            Kofesan (Valery) 7 May 2021 06: 12
            +1
            I agree! With the fact that the best way to protect yourself is to list well-known facts.
            PS With the general, everything is not so simple. The Americans are not as ubiquitous as it seems, and they could not do without you! The most probable is the bestial crime of both countries.
            1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
              Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 8 May 2021 07: 45
              -1
              Quote: Kofesan
              I agree! With the fact that the best way to protect yourself is to list well-known facts.
              PS With the general, everything is not so simple. The Americans are not as ubiquitous as it seems, and they could not do without you! The most probable is the bestial crime of both countries.

              "It seems" ...., "The most probable" ... You my friend, unlike me, according to Christian traditions, you need to be baptized, if something seems to be, but refer to the source. And not to pass off your deep reflections as the ultimate truth. Moreover, the United States officially assumed responsibility for the elimination of Soleimani. A commercial, it is possible to ascribe to Israel and the elimination of Bin Laden, or the poisoning by Novichok there of one of the former KGB officers, in Great Britain, or the elimination of terrorists in Moscow on Dubrovka. On this occasion, VVP asked ironically, answering about the same "accusation": "Have I ruined the fortress too?" Although as for me - your ideas are not bad. This is a good advertisement for the power and professionalism of our Israeli intelligence services. Not just some Petrov and Vasechkin.) hi
  3. Volga073 Offline Volga073
    Volga073 (MIKLE) 6 May 2021 06: 46
    +2
    The best defense is retaliation against Israeli military airfields.
    1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
      Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 6 May 2021 08: 15
      -2
      Quote: Volga073
      The best defense is retaliation against Israeli military airfields.

      Forward couch miracles - heroes! And their theosaurs will be yours! Just don't forget to pull up your pants.) hi
      1. Kofesan Offline Kofesan
        Kofesan (Valery) 7 May 2021 06: 18
        +1
        Pray that there is someone to hold back the theosaurs' desire to do you justice. But nothing lasts forever under the moon ...
        1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
          Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 7 May 2021 14: 55
          -2
          Quote: Kofesan
          Pray that there is someone to hold back the theosaurs' desire to do you justice. But nothing lasts forever under the moon ...

          But from the taiga to the British seas, the Jewish army is the strongest! And in general, as the Zionists say: whoever comes to us with a sword will die by the sword. This has been repeatedly demonstrated by the valiant IDF. And songs were composed in honor of the legendary Jewish heroes:

          And the dark sky of Damascus will be adorned with a new star, as if brought from an Israeli helmet to the velvet dome of the night!

          hi
  4. Alexzn Online Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) 6 May 2021 08: 43
    -3
    Quote: Michael I
    That's right, to judge the crooked Syrians

    Bomb!
  5. Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
    Michael1950 (Michael) 6 May 2021 12: 12
    -5
    Quote: Volga073
    The best defense is retaliation against Israeli military airfields.

    - Who will hit ??
  6. Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
    Michael1950 (Michael) 6 May 2021 14: 19
    -2
    Quote: isofat
    You shitty anti-Semitism and it is not good for you to blame other nations. There is a reason not to do this. It is very simple - even a frail spine, your Jewish identity, scholars not found... But the roots of other peoples, the same Slavs, are above the roof. laughing

    - Well, yap, so yap! Super-yap! Bad of you, Judophobe. Real anti-Semites first of all study the fundamental works: "How to identify a Jew by his face?"
    1. isofat Offline isofat
      isofat (isofat) 6 May 2021 17: 26
      +2
      Quote: Michael1950
      - Well, yap, so yap! Super-yap! Bad of you, Judophobe.



      Quote: Shlomo Sand
      The Russian people, unlike the Jewish people, do exist. And the French people exist, and others there, some peoples exist. But I don't think there is a Jewish people.

      love laughing yes

      PS Why did you expel your relatives and take away their land? Sick? Learn history, you fools! laughing

      If you listen to it like that, you will hear that Kiev was founded by Jews. laughing (listen carefully) 5:05
  7. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) 6 May 2021 15: 25
    +4
    I went in yesterday, looked ... closed it.
    I dropped in today ... the course and direction of the discussion is quite expected laughing
    Colleagues, you missed a great opportunity to remain silent winked
  8. alex5450 Offline alex5450
    alex5450 (Alex L) 6 May 2021 17: 02
    -1
    It is strange that only two civilians were killed. As a minimum, a maternity hospital, a kindergarten or a wedding should be blown up. Even if the bride is bearded. )
  9. Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
    Michael1950 (Michael) 7 May 2021 09: 32
    -1
    Quote: isofat
    ... Why did you expel your relatives and confiscate their land? Sick? Learn history, you fools! laughing

    - They are rather your relatives - you were ready to give your life for them all the last 60 years ?! Blood was shed for the Arabs - in Egypt, in Syria! So these are your brothers! This is the first thing.
    Secondly: the territories occupied by the Arabs are about 14 million square meters. kilometers. 700 (seven hundred!) Times more than the territory of Israel!
    So who is "not enough land" there?
  10. Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
    Michael1950 (Michael) 7 May 2021 14: 29
    -2
    Quote: Rogue1812
    The Torah specifically says that a Jew is born of a Jewish mother, or converted to Judaism. This is the law of the country. It has always been that way.

    - This is not in the Torah, it is in the Talmud, and it was not always so ... smile

    Another thing is that it is very difficult to accept Judaism. To do this, you need to graduate from a religious school, pass exams and live for a long time in a religious Jewish family.

    - No schools needed, - one and a half year evening courses, in Russian, then an exam - a commission of three rabbis, Orthodox, for men - circumcision, for all, - men and women, - immersion headlong into the mikvah (not all together) , - further obtaining a certificate that you are a Jew. For a year and a half you have been under the (episodic) guidance of a "guardian family" living according to the Orthodox Jewish tradition; you regularly (once a week) go to the synagogue. And then gradually you move away from all this and live a completely ordinary social life.

    It is somewhat easier to undergo conversion during military service.

    - It's right.

    Now Bagats has made a decision on the admissibility of the reformist conversion for the citizens of Israel. Which, in my opinion, is correct and will help absorb 5% of the population who have tied their fate with Israel, but who are not Jews according to Halakha.

    “The Chief Rabbinate will never admit this bullshit. It's a pity...
    1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
      Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 8 May 2021 07: 36
      -2
      Michael 1950, when some person, far from Judaism and Jewry, like the Trampoline Zone Instructor writes (see his post above that "There is a lot of things written in the Torah, but even more in the Bible", then such bloopers are not worth commenting on. when, apparently, in the subject, and write that the Torah is one thing, and the Talmud is another, then such an interpretation, to put it mildly, is free, because it assumes two sources of Judaism - the Talmud and the Torah. And this is one source, there is no other. will never be, because no one is given to go beyond the commandments of the Torah. This is the basics of Judaism.
      Here's a link.

      In Jewish religious consciousness, the Torah and Talmud are inseparable. Moreover, the Talmud is also the Torah, a part of the Torah, it is the Oral Torah. According to Jewish ideas, the Almighty gave two Torahs for the use of Jews at Sinai: the Written Torah and the Oral Torah. ... And to each of them - anywhere - the Jews treat them as a shrine.

      https://www.liveinternet.ru › agoll

      The fact that you point out that it was not always customary among Jews to consider a person born on the maternal side to be a Jew (not necessarily from a mother, by the way) is incorrect. Yes, one of the 613 commandments was violated, including by King Solomon. But this does not mean that she was not.
      Further, the person accepting the conversion needs to complete not the "courses", but the yeshiva. And proselytes of Judaism in ancient Judea did not finish "1.5 year courses in Russian". The decision of the High Court of Justice can be called "garbage", of course, although it is not entirely correct. But at the same time it is not logical to indicate "a pity", that is, to recognize it in essence. And the last thing. I didn’t give you a minus. I do not sin with this childish play. Although, I'm sorry, I get pleasure from the fact that our opponents give me disadvantages. Touch, then, for a living.
  11. Xuli (o) Tebenado 8 May 2021 10: 29
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    Netanyahu urgently contacted Putin after the launch of Israeli missiles towards the Khmeimim airbase

    Israeli President Benjamin Netanyahu urgently requested a telephone conversation with Russian leader Vladimir Putin, the authors of the Avia.Pro portal said, citing the Syrian media.
    It is reported that the need for a conversation arose after the accidental launch of several missiles by Israeli fighters towards the Khmeimim airbase.

    https://discover24.ru/2021/05/netanyahu-srochno-svyazalsya-s-putinym-posle-puska-izrailskih-raket-v-storonu-aviabazy-hmeymim
  12. Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
    Michael1950 (Michael) 8 May 2021 12: 10
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    Quote: Rogue1812
    Michael 1950, when some person, far from Judaism and Jewry, like the Trampoline Zone Instructor writes (see his post above that "There is a lot of things written in the Torah, but even more in the Bible", then such bloopers are not worth commenting on. when, apparently, you are in the subject, but write that the Torah is one thing, and the Talmud is another, then such an interpretation, to put it mildly, is free, because it assumes two sources of Judaism - the Talmud and the Torah. And this is one source, there is no other.

    - Smiled! laughing This is not the place here, of course, to discuss this topic ... smile But you will laugh: even the Torah - two, written, which was the era of the First Temple and the Oral Torah - which was dragged from the Babylonian captivity by the Pharisees - and their postulates differ incredibly! lol

    And it never will. Because for the commandments of the Torah, no one is allowed to go out. This is the basics of Judaism.

    - Two Torahs! Which commandments do you prefer ?! wink

    Here's a link.

    In Jewish religious consciousness, the Torah and Talmud are inseparable. Moreover, the Talmud is also the Torah, a part of the Torah, it is the Oral Torah. According to Jewish ideas, the Almighty gave two Torahs for the use of Jews at Sinai: the Written Torah and the Oral Torah. ... And to each of them - anywhere - the Jews treat them as a shrine.

    https://www.liveinternet.ru › agoll

    This is from the same series that I once taught: "The Party and Lenin are twins, brothers! Who is more valuable than mother history ?! We say: Lenin, - we mean - the Party! We say: the Party - we mean - Lenin!”

    The fact that you point out that it was not always customary among Jews to consider a person born on the maternal side to be a Jew (not necessarily from a mother, by the way) is incorrect.

    - If you ever read the Torah (written) seriously, you would know that THERE IS WRITTEN THERE. wink But admit it - you've never read it cover to cover, have you?

    Yes, one of the 613 commandments was violated, including by King Solomon. But this does not mean that she was not.

    - If you ever read all 613 commandments, you would know that never among these 613 there was no commandment "to consider Jewry by mother". But you haven't read them ...

    Further, the person accepting the conversion needs to complete not the "courses", but the yeshiva.

    - Laughing out loud! Never try to rant about what you do not know, so as not to find yourself in a funny and stupid position. My wife is not Jewish, and, accordingly, there were also daughters. I went with them for conversion courses a year and a half, I carefully noted everything, read, delved into ... What the hell is "yeshiva" ?? Women are not accepted in the yeshiva !! am
    https://free-maiden.livejournal.com/349342.html

    And proselytes of Judaism in ancient Judea did not finish "1.5 year courses in Russian".

    - So no! They simply came to the community and if they were accepted, they lived in it. Complying with local laws and customs.

    The decision of the High Court of Justice can be called "garbage", of course, although it is not entirely correct. But at the same time it is not logical to indicate "a pity", that is, to recognize it in essence.

    - I, of course, would be very happy if all the poor fellows who arrived in Israel as "family members" or "non-Jews according to Halakha" would be automatically fouled in three days by a woman rabbi from the reformist community, who the day before gave a chuppah to two homosexuals and four lesbians - I don't mind! lol But the Chief Rabbinate of Israel is not as broad-minded as I am ...

    And the last thing. I didn’t give you a minus.

    - Yes, and I never put them on you, and I'm not going to ...

    I do not sin with this childish play. Although, I'm sorry, I get pleasure from the fact that our opponents give me disadvantages. Touch, then, for a living.

    - Of course, I put downsides to those to whom I want to put them! good
    1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
      Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 8 May 2021 14: 25
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      I gave you a link, it's funny to you. You did not give a link, but you undertake to assert. You can call your stay in the yeshiva as many courses as you like, but this will not make your sitting there. Yes, and the courses of an accelerated 1.5 year training were called as articles: "Give a conversion in 1.5 years!" And who lectured: former lecturers of the "Scientific Atheism" course? Or are there rabbis within the yeshiva? And where did the training take place: in a yeshiva, or at a disco? Statements like "You have not read, but I have read" from the series, "I have not read Solzhenitsyn, but I condemn." First, I read and not only the Torah. But also "M. Diamond:" Jews, God and History ", Z. Kosidovsky:" Biblical Legends ", S. Dubnova:" A Brief History of the Jews ", P. Johnson: A Popular History of the Jews", I. Flavius ​​"The Jewish War" and even L. Taxil: "Funny Bible". I can list at least a dozen more monographs. I am very smart and well-read. Unlike others. Therefore, it is at least presumptuous to flatter about the oral Torah, not knowing the potential of the interlocutor. If your level has not risen further than the pedagogical note-taking and "rzhu I can not", then my post is not in the horse feed. Remember M.A. Bulgakov? : "Never talk to strangers." And do not drink the water from the puddle, remember who brother Ivanushka has become. Or Pinnochio with old man Carlo Kolodi. Judging by the post, both options are suitable for you. hi
  13. Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
    Michael1950 (Michael) 8 May 2021 15: 03
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    Quote: Rogue1812
    I gave you a link, it's funny to you. You did not give a link, but you undertake to assert.

    - ?? The main reference is the Torah (written, of course). What other link do you want?

    You can call your stay in the yeshiva as many courses as you like, but this will not make your sitting there.

    - I repeat: women are not accepted into yeshivas! laughing My wife and eldest daughter (the youngest ignored this event) are women who CANNOT study in yeshivas.

    Yes, and the courses of an accelerated 1.5 year training were called as articles: "Give a conversion in 1.5 years!"

    - They were like that 25 years ago, and they remain so today.

    And who lectured: former lecturers of the "Scientific Atheism" course?

    - One is a rabbi (who knows Russian very well, classes were conducted, of course, in Russian), orthodox, "haredi", the second is just a teacher of Judaism, a religious Zionist, a representative of "kipot srugot". Other teachers and teachers were periodically involved.

    And where did the training take place: in a yeshiva, or at a disco?

    - Do not make me laugh with your attempts to flirt ... lol

    Statements like "You have not read, but I have read" from the series, "I have not read Solzhenitsyn, but I condemn." First I read and not only the Torah. But also "M. Diamond:" Jews, God and History ", Z. Kosidovsky:" Biblical Legends ", S. Dubnova:" A Brief History of the Jews ", P. Johnson: A Popular History of the Jews", I. Flavius ​​"The Jewish War" and even L. Taxil: "Funny Bible".

    - Oh my God! Then I can answer you in the same spirit: "Have you read Nosov's book" Dunno on the Moon "? laughing

    I can list at least a dozen more monographs.

    - I really thought that you would say that you read the six-volume edition of Mirashi, and you - Zeno Kosidovsky ... Have you decided to play around?

    I am very smart and well-read. Unlike others.

    - Smiled! From ear to ear! You forgot to add: "But my most important quality is modesty!" laughing lol

    Therefore, it is at least presumptuous to flirt about the oral Torah, not knowing the potential of the interlocutor.

    “You don’t know any Torah, either oral or written.
    If you want a serious conversation, you mentioned there that in the 613th commandments there is one, which says that "Jewishness is determined by mother."
    1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
      Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 8 May 2021 17: 34
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      Your daughters did study in the yeshiva. Although they were not taken there. Or, if you like it more in the yeshiva, they taught the Torah. As for the fact that modesty adorns me - I do not argue. So you are proud that among you and I am passing my eyelids - a talented and modest person ... As for "stick your finger", but do not want to use a pointer? It is very clear to me that you have been doing yeshiva for 1.5 years. In the Torah, there is no word that if you pour water into a basin, then in the states of the Orthodox you can lower your feet into it and take a ride on the train. On Shabbat, being like in the sea. And nevertheless, the guys still ride ... And pigs in Israel are bred on a ramp ... And in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation in Art. "Robbery" does not say anything that a person who openly steals goods in a super, under the guise of a buyer, is responsible for theft, and not for robbery. Or nothing is said in the article "Robbery" that a person who buys goods in a super under the guise of a buyer is responsible for robbery, and not for theft. Why are they attracted with the same introductions: who is for theft, and who is for robbery? Huh?
      And about poking - don't make people laugh. You are referring to the Talmud, so this is a reference-commentary to the Torah. Is that even clear? And I read "Dunno on the Moon". In childhood. There really is not a word about the subject of the dispute, Mr. Julio.
  14. Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
    Michael1950 (Michael) 8 May 2021 23: 40
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    Quote: Rogue1812
    Your daughters did study in the yeshiva. Although they were not taken there.

    - What "yeshiva" ?!
    One daughter attended a conversion course with his wife.
    So, stop spanking nonsense already ...

    Or, if you like it more in the yeshiva, they taught the Torah.

    See above - what is a yeshiva - and what are courses for passing a conversion - these are "two big differences."

    As for the fact that modesty adorns me - I do not argue. So be proud that among you and I am passing my eyelids - a talented and modest person.

    - In Russian it is called "fuflogon", in Yiddish - "shlimazl", in Hebrew - "tembel", or "metumtam" ... lol

    ..About "stick your finger", but don't want to use a pointer?

    - Listen, tembel, even after reading these 613 commandments 613 times, you will not be able to find there the one that speaks of the need for a Jew to have a Jewish mother, - there is no such commandment... If you knew something about Judaism, you would even understand WHY IT IS NOT THERE. laughing

    It is very clear to me what you have been doing in the yeshiva for 1.5 years.

    - Studied TaNaKh (do you know at least how this abbreviation stands?).

    And about poking - don't make people laugh. You are referring to the Talmud, so this is a link - a commentary on the Torah.

    - Somehow you surprisingly manage to evade the subject of discussion: first you declare that among the 613 commandments there is one that says that only one whose mother is Jewish can be called a Jew and it is written there. When you are invited to present this commandment, you begin to carry nonsense - about a basin and raising pigs on a ramp ... laughing lol
    Naturally, how do you know that the postulates of the Written Torah and the Oral Torah differ radically! wink
    It's time for you to enroll in a yeshiva to improve your general education level, but you don't have yeshivas in Uryupinsk ... repeat
    1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
      Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 9 May 2021 00: 38
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      The point is that, taking into account your age, you have senile manifestations. If for you Netanya, where I live, is Uryupinsk, and the Talmud is an independent source of Judaism, this means only one thing: diagnosis! The Torah is commented on by the Talmud. That is why I gave the link of the rabbi that it is the same thing. You didn't even understand the analogy with the special part of the Criminal Code. It was impossible to take into account and describe all the options in these 613 commandments. Therefore, there is a Talmud that binds them permanently in space, time and emerging situations. There is a structure and a body of the Law. But for you, this is higher mathematics. Dunno according to Freud - this is your lunar level. Absolute emptiness. Not me, but you, like a deceitful snake in a frying pan, turn around and evade the answer to two questions:
      1. Where did your girls study (in your Newspeak - Hebrew courses)? Yeshiva, or what? Who organized the "courses". Where do the woods come from, the rabbis, that is? Yeshiva, or who? Stop saying - Kozyulsky!
      2. In the Talmud, according to your own words, it is indicated that Jewishness is determined by the mother. So, does the Talmud interpret at the same time one of the 613 commandments, or is it just an initiative that has nothing to do with the receipt of the Torah by Moses? Correct Moses. Sing the flower, don't be ashamed ...
      Vysotsky, who has Jewish roots, wrote about people like you, "one-celled connoisseurs" of Judaism: "Here they walk and spit only in urns, but you certainly cannot understand there behind the stove, because the darkness is uncivilized."
  15. Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
    Michael1950 (Michael) 9 May 2021 08: 02
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    Quote: Rogue1812
    The point is that, taking into account your age, you have senile manifestations.

    - I think that in order to develop dementia to your level, I need to live another 160 years! laughing

    If for you Netanya, where I live is Uryupinsk

    - But you never know the shlimazls from Uryupinsk live in Israel now ?! "Like uncut dogs"!

    ... and the Talmud is an independent source of Judaism

    - I give you links - you stubbornly do not read them: it is the Talmud that is taught in yeshivas! And you thought that they teach Tanakh ?! (How does this stand for, you still haven't answered?)

    - it means only one thing: a diagnosis!

    Yeshiva, yeshiva (Hebrew יְשִׁיבָה, literally "sitting, sitting"; plural יְשִׁיבוֹת, yeshivot; in the Russian tradition - yeshibot) in Jewish history is the name of an institute, which is a higher religious educational institution designed to study Oral Law, mainly Talmud.

    The Torah is commented on by the Talmud. That is why I gave the link of the rabbi,that this is the same.

    - This is absolutely not the same thing, Metumtam tembel! These are two huge differences!

    You didn't even understand the analogy with the special part of the Criminal Code.

    - Why do I need your Uryupinskiy Criminal Code?

    It was impossible to take into account and describe all the options in these 613 commandments. Therefore, there is a Talmud that binds them permanently in space, time and emerging situations. There is a structure and a body of the Law. But for you, this is higher mathematics. Dunno according to Freud - this is your lunar level. Absolute emptiness. Not me, but you are spinning a lying snake in a frying pan

    - Do not tell the people, mefager? Other Jews come here sometimes! laughing lol

    Who organized the "courses".

    - "Nativ":
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B2

    Where do the woods come from, the rabbis, that is? Yeshiva, or who? Stop saying - Kozyulsky!

    - So from the same place, from "Nativ"!

    2. In the Talmud, according to your own words, it is indicated that Jewishness is determined by the mother.

    - This is exactly what the Talmud says, absolutely !. And so that the wife - no more than one! And according to the Torah (written) there can be much more of them! tongue

    So, does the Talmud interpret one of the 613 commandments at the same time, or is it just an initiative that has nothing to do with receiving the Torah by Moses? Correct Moses. Sing the flower, don't be ashamed ...

    - This provision of the Talmud has nothing to do with the provisions written in the Torah, received by Moses from the Lord on Mount Sinai! These are absolutely the newest inventions, dating back to around the end of the XNUMXnd century AD:

    Vysotsky, who has Jewish roots, wrote about people like you, "one-celled connoisseurs" of Judaism: "Here they walk and spit only in urns, but you certainly cannot understand there behind the stove, because the darkness is uncivilized."

    - I burst out laughing! You layman amateur, having no idea what you undertook to judge and dress! Studying Judaism according to Zeno Kosidovsky (and having the foolishness to declare this out loud!) ... laughing lol This is necessary!
    1. Tramp1812 Offline Tramp1812
      Tramp1812 (Tramp 1812) 9 May 2021 08: 20
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      I didn’t read it. Delirium because. Who sprinkled tepesh kashish and mesuga mefursam.
      And you thought that they teach Tanakh ?! (How does this stand for, you still haven't answered?)
      To the last three letters you have selected in the word TANAH, you should add the word lekh, give a preposition for the direction and you will get a complete decryption of the address where you moved and where you received the deepest knowledge. And they stayed for permanent residence. hi
  16. Michael1950 Offline Michael1950
    Michael1950 (Michael) 9 May 2021 08: 39
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    Quote: Rogue1812
    I did not read.

    - "Chukchi is not a reader, Chukchi is a writer!" lol