In Ukraine: “We have nothing to intercept Iskander, but this is not the best complex in the world

1 May 2021 17

In recent months, it has again become very fashionable in Ukraine to discuss the topic of full-scale "aggression" by Russia. In the course of discussions, questions often arise as to how Moscow will “crush” Kiev.

For example, on April 30, 2021, on the air of the YouTube channel "Ukrainian Military Portal", the co-founder of this online platform, 29-year-old military expert Taras Chmut, said that the Russian OTRK "Iskander" is a modern and good weapon that Ukrainians are not able to -or oppose. He expressed confidence that the RF Armed Forces would use the aforementioned complexes only in the event of a real war. Chmut clarified that, first of all, these OTRKs will be used against the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which are armed with nothing better than the outdated Soviet-made S-300V1 air defense systems.

But I do not think that this ("Iskander" - ed.) Is the best missile system in the world. This is a weapon that poses a great threat to Ukraine…. Unfortunately, we have nothing to intercept her ...

- he said.

Chmut added that it is absolutely not important where the Iskander's permanent deployment points are located. When the Russians need it, they will easily transfer the required number of operational-tactical missile systems to the Ukrainian border, including to the territory of the “annexed” Crimea.

Can the S-300V1 complex shoot down the Iskander?

- Co-host Alexander Argat quoted a question from a subscriber.

In theory, yes, in practice - no one knows. We do not have many S-300V1s and they cannot cover all our needs, even if they shot down

- answered Chmut.

At the same time, Chmut did not specify what difference it made for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, whether Iskander is the best complex in the world or not in the circumstances described above. However, he can be understood, because he and his companion earn money by popularizing the local variety of militant "patriotism" and are not interested in ending the conflict in Donbass and normalizing relations between Ukraine and Russia.

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Piramidon

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1 May 2021 12: 31

- Can the S-300V1 complex shoot down the Iskander?
- We do not have many S-300V1

And those are already "rotten".
1. sgrabik
  
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  1 May 2021 16: 03
  
  Rather rusted !!!
GRF

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1 May 2021 13: 29

was killed by a bad weapon

- well, let it be so, if only those who remained would understand why ...
Michael1950

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1 May 2021 16: 01

- The Ukrainians had nothing to intercept the Russian ballistic missiles, just as the British had nothing to intercept the German FAU-2s, which had been crushing London since September 1944 ... There were more than 4000 successful launches then ...
1. Dear sofa expert.
  
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  1 May 2021 22: 19
  
  how the British had nothing to intercept the German FAU-2s that had been crushing London since September 1944 ... There were more than 4000 successful launches then ...
  
  Yes, and if it were not for the Russians (USSR), the Germans would have rubbed this island into powder.
  But the Russians, alas, helped, and these "islanders" then leveled the German cities to the ground. Together with civilians, together with their own prisoners of war who are there…. Was it worth saving the British? Especially in the context of today's attitude of these creatures to Russia?
akarfoxhound

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1 May 2021 22: 53

When did it manage to become an "expert" by the age of 29?
1. Petr Vladimirovich
  
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  2 May 2021 00: 34
  
  Chmut won't say bad things ...
  With him, as they say, do not argue, but immediately cry ...
Michael1950

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2 May 2021 01: 05

Quote: Dear couch expert.
how the British had nothing to intercept the German FAU-2s that had been crushing London since September 1944 ... There were more than 4000 successful launches then ...

Yes, and if it were not for the Russians (USSR), the Germans would have rubbed this island into powder.
But the Russians, alas, helped, and these "islanders" then leveled the German cities to the ground. Together with civilians, together with their own prisoners of war who are there…. Was it worth saving the British? Especially in the context of today's attitude of these creatures to Russia?

- In fact, Lend Lease, Anglo-American, saved tens of millions of Soviet citizens in the war against the Nazis... It's just that the Soviet people were not told too much about this and were not told in too much detail. And it was like this:
https://philologist.livejournal.com/7619556.html
1. isofat
  
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  2 May 2021 01: 33
  Michael1950y Apparently you liked this point of view, since you are referring to it. You have no reason to assert that this is true.
  
  Without bothering too much, I can immediately name the moments that alarm me and put forward, if not a version, then an assumption about this loan.
Michael1950

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2 May 2021 01: 52

Quote: isofat
Michael1950y Apparently you liked this point of view, since you are referring to it. You have no reason to assert that this is true.

- I do not care about someone's "academic" opinion, if I have my own. And my opinion with the point of view of Mark Semyonovich Solonin in the overwhelming majority of cases coincides. And I am very grateful to him for his research "unparalleled in the world." You first read what he writes, and then you will quote "academic!" opinion.
Do not be like those who "I haven't read Pasternak, but I condemn it!"

Without bothering too much, I can immediately name the moments that alarm me and put forward, if not a version, then an assumption about this loan.

- You can do whatever you want ... But I'm not sure you read the article carefully and thoughtfully. Try again?
1. Fourth
  
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  2 May 2021 02: 04
  
  It is a pity that you do not care about someone else's opinion, which does not coincide with yours. People come to "Reporter" not to spit on someone else's opinion.
Michael1950

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2 May 2021 02: 29

Quote: Fourth
It is a pity that you do not care about someone else's opinion, which does not coincide with yours. People come to "Reporter" not to spit on someone else's opinion.

- You propose to "spit" on the opinion of Mark Solonin, because it does not coincide with someone else's. Have you even read the article offered?
1. boriz
  
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  2 May 2021 14: 20
  
  Solonin was always distinguished by the fact that he took some particularity and tried to make a general whole out of it.
  To this post of Solonin, I can also add something that he, oddly, missed. Although, as an aircraft designer, he knows very well. Aluminum. Due to the delusional decision to place an aluminum plant in Zaporozhye, the country was left without aluminum. So what?
  The West did not save the USSR, the West saved itself. Everything is in the trend outlined by Harry Truman on June 24, 1941: "If the Germans lose, we will help the Germans." And vice versa. They themselves muddied both WWI and WWII, they themselves tried to direct the course of wars, in accordance with their goals. The USA did the best.
  Whether Lend-Lease was decisive is a moot point. There would have been even more victims without him - that's for sure.
  But Solonin's opinion should not be taken to an absolute when it comes to global trends.
AICO

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2 May 2021 10: 46

That's right, that chmut and 99 percent of such chmut stink in the 404 square!
Michael1950

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3 May 2021 01: 04

Quote: boriz
Solonin was always distinguished by the fact that he took some particularity and tried to make a general whole out of it.
To this post of Solonin, I can also add something that he, oddly, missed. Although, as an aircraft designer, he knows very well. Aluminum. Due to the delusional decision to place an aluminum plant in Zaporozhye, the country was left without aluminum. So what?

- So these are claims to Stalin, what does Solonin have to do with it?

The West did not save the USSR, the West saved itself. Everything is in the trend outlined by Harry Truman on June 24, 1941: "If the Germans lose, we will help the Germans."

- Have you heard with your ears ?! Why, then, does the United States participate in Lend Lease in three months? Well, would they wait, watching how Hitlerite Germany and the communist USSR exterminate each other in a mutual war ?!

And vice versa.

- And Churchill really said "on the contrary", he said: "If the Devil declares war on Hitler, I will conclude an alliance with the Devil!" Therefore, an alliance was concluded on Lend Lease ...

Themselves muddied and PMV and WWII

- The Americans prompted Nicholas II to get into WWI, and they also prompted Stalin to sign the "Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact" ?!

... they themselves tried to direct the course of wars, in accordance with their goals. The USA did the best.

- And the Americans also asked the Japanese to hit Pearl Harbor?

Whether Lend-Lease was decisive is a moot point. There would have been even more victims without him - that's for sure.

- There would be tens of millions more victims. So this question is absolutely indisputable.

But Solonin's opinion should not be taken to an absolute when it comes to global trends.

- Should your opinion be put into something?
1. boriz
  
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  4 May 2021 13: 57
  
  - So these are claims to Stalin, what does Solonin have to do with it?
  
  This is not a claim to Stalin. The government in the USSR was collegial. Since 1919 to 1976 The USSR was clearly ruled by the Ukrainian group. Hidden, she rules later. As a result, the most oppressed republic was the RSFSR. It didn’t even have its own Communist Party. And Ukraine has been pumped up with resources fabulously.
  
  - Have you heard with your ears ?! Why, then, does the United States participate in Lend Lease in three months? Well, would they wait, watching how Hitlerite Germany and the communist USSR exterminate each other in a mutual war ?!
  
  History at school should have been taught, not smoking.
  “If we see that Germany is winning, then we should help Russia, if Russia is winning, then we should help Germany, and thus let them kill as much as possible” June 24, 1941. New York Times.
  What is "to participate in lend-lease? Deliveries began at the very end of 1941. For half a year 1941, deliveries to the USSR amounted to $ 29,5 million, for 1942. $ 1363,3 million.
  And yes, they waited until 1944.
  
  - And Churchill really said "on the contrary", he said: "If the Devil declares war on Hitler, I will conclude an alliance with the Devil!" Therefore, an alliance was concluded on Lend Lease ...
  
  What does Churchill have to do with the lend-lease for the USSR? Lend Lease is an American program. Churchill threw in on trifles anything that they themselves did not need. And Great Britain, the USSR until June 27, 1942. paid in gold, 55 tons. Then - for free, tk. supplied mostly trash.
  
  - And the Americans also asked the Japanese to hit Pearl Harbor?
  
  Not asked, but provoked. Roosevelt had to get into the war, and Congress did not allow it. Here, in fact, there is nothing to argue about. There is an extensive literature on this topic in the USA. This is not Soviet propaganda. Read more, sometimes it helps.
  
  - The Americans prompted Nicholas II to get into WWI, and they also prompted Stalin to sign the "Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact" ?!
  
  WWI was provoked by the British. The brains of the Germans soared for a long time, making it clear that they would not interfere. And when the Germans attacked France through Belgium, they suddenly remembered the treaty they had concluded with it, pledging to protect its territorial integrity. If they had clearly said that they would stand up for France, the Germans would not have climbed.
  And Stalin did everything right with the treaty. He was the last European leader to sign the treaty. The Poles were the first to do this.
  And the Anglo-Saxons pumped Hitler with money. They also forced them to attack the USSR.
  When you get into a discussion, give us something besides emotions. Look at Vicki. I did not hire you here to conduct an educational program.
  
  - Should your opinion be put into something?
  
  What and where you will enter yourself is your own business.
  1. Michael1950
    
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    5 May 2021 09: 53
    
    This is not a claim to Stalin. The government in the USSR was collegial.
    
    - And you call yourself a historian ??