For the recognition of the Armenian genocide, the United States can pay with the Incirlik military base


On April 24, 2021, US President Joe Biden admitted that at the beginning of the 106th century, the Armenian genocide was committed on the territory of the Ottoman Empire. The head of the American state said this in memory of the victims, on the day of the XNUMXth anniversary of the beginning of the above-mentioned tragic events. On the same day, the leader of the Turkish political force Vatan Partisi (Motherland Party), Dogu Perincek said TASSthat since Washington took such a step, Ankara is obliged to regain control of the Incirlik base in southern Turkey, and send all the Americans to their country.


The Turkish Armed Forces must immediately establish full control over the Incirlik airbase and return home the American troops located there within 15 days.

- commented Perincek.

He expressed confidence that after the White House demarche, Ankara will definitely get closer to Russia. The politician called Biden's words "an offensive against Turkey, Asia, Russia and China." In his opinion, the statement of the US President has nothing to do with the protection of human rights and the discussion of historical facts. He believes that the Americans, starting with Ankara, will then take action against Moscow and Beijing. Now Biden wants to deprive Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of power.

It should be noted that all of Biden's predecessors as President of the United States did not recognize the Armenian genocide and even avoided using such an expression. Ankara is an extremely important ally of Washington in all respects, so the Americans did not want to risk it. However, after Turkey acquired the S-400 air defense system from Russia, a large crack appeared in US-Turkish relations. In 2019, both houses of the US Congress adopted a resolution that recognized the Armenian genocide.

Note that official Ankara recognizes the fact of mass deaths of Armenians, but it is categorically against the use of the term "genocide". The Turks claim that the death of the Armenians was due to the civil war in the Ottoman Empire, and not due to special measures by the authorities. According to various sources, in the period 1915-1922, from 600 thousand to 1,5 million Armenians died.

At the same time, this is not the first time that a discussion has arisen in Turkey about the Incirlik base. The previous time, in 2016, the Turks threatened to expel the Americans and demanded the immediate removal of nuclear weapons from the territory of the specified military facility. This happened after the attempted mutiny of the military, who were going to kill Erdogan. However, then Ankara did not realize its threats, what happened to nuclear weapons is also completely unknown. This time, things might be different. Ankara is really tired of Washington's incessant attacks and claims. The recognition of the Armenian genocide by the Americans may become the last straw that will overflow the patience of the Turks.
  • Used photographs: US Air Force photo by Tech. Sgt. Vince Parker.
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  1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
    Just a cat (Bayun) April 25 2021 19: 41
    +1
    Armenians served in the Turkish army with the rank of officers. but decided to act in relation to Turkey, as the Crimean Tatars in relation to the USSR. the Turks did not like it.
    1. Hayer31 Offline Hayer31
      Hayer31 (Kashchei) April 25 2021 23: 53
      -1
      Can you prove your words? Or is it just your fantasies? What archive is there? And if you are an Azerbaijani, this is already the answer for me.
      1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
        Just a cat (Bayun) April 26 2021 04: 48
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        it's like Bandera don't like what Russians say? Do you defend your fascists Dashnaks? you have not banned them as well as the Ukrainians of the UPA. I see that the Armenians are constantly lying. as an example, constant lies during the Karabakh events.
      2. Bakht Offline Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) April 26 2021 16: 43
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        Armenia refuses to consider archived data.

        The Armenians took into account the example of Bulgaria when planning their revolution. The stages of the uprising were defined as follows:
        1. Organize and arm the insurgent units.
        2. Attack those from whom a retaliatory action can be expected to the greatest extent (this most often concerned the Kurdish tribes). Violent retaliation will lead to the annihilation of many Armenians.
        3. The death of Armenians will have a huge impact on European public opinion.
        4. European military intervention will force the Ottomans to grant autonomy and possibly independence to the Armenians in Eastern Anatolia.
        5. The Muslim population will either leave on its own, or will be expelled from the new Armenia, and all the Armenians from Turkey, Iran, America and Europe will move there, forming both demographically and politically an Armenian state.

        This is an American orientalist scholar.
        However, if you are an Armenian, then everything is clear to me.
    2. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 26 2021 00: 31
      -3
      That is, do you consider the mass executions of children, women and old people of Armenian nationality or their eviction from their homes and mass death from hunger and thirst justified for the betrayal of individual Armenian officers (by the way, what kind of officers are they?)?
      And yes, in the modern Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, both the mass executions of Armenians in Turkey and the mass eviction of the Crimean Tatars by Stalin are interpreted as genocide. Here you are right, there are similarities.
      1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
        Just a cat (Bayun) April 26 2021 04: 44
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        and the mass executions of the Turkmen by the Armenians?
        1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
          Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 26 2021 09: 23
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          Turumens in Central Asia? Are you in yourself? In any case, do you justify the mass executions of children, women, elderly people of Armenian nationality?
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          2. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
            Just a cat (Bayun) April 26 2021 15: 08
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            "In January 1918, after refusing to recognize the power of the Soviets in Turk-
            camp for the destruction of supporters of Turkestan independence from
            Moscow, 11 echelons with troops and artillery arrived in Tashkent. Of
            memories of many Bolsheviks of those years, in Turkestan were thrown
            troops, where there were mainly armed Dashnaks. "

            "At the beginning of 1918, the Armenians, led by the chairman of the Kokand
            the Council of the Armenian Saakov, armed with machine guns and artillery
            Ri gun, approached the village of Bachkir, the native village of Kurba-
            shi Irgash - the first leader of the National Liberation Movement
            Turkestan and burned it. On the way, the detachment shot
            '' innocent, helpless farmers and insulted some women and girls
            and robbed their household utensils. "

            "On February 13, 1918, there was a massacre of the civilian population of the city of Kokand
            and surrounding villages. Dashnaks killed everyone for three days
            Muslims who had the misfortune to meet them on the way, robbed them
            houses and shops. Mahallas and villages of local residents were set on fire, and
            huge loot dumped at the station to make it easier to
            zit as trophies. Not only local Uzbeks who made up
            a significant part of the defenders of the Kokand autonomy were killed, but
            and Persians, Jews and even Russian supporters of Turkestan autonomy
            and all their small communities in the city of Kokand, despite
            gender and age were killed. The main murder initiative came from
            Armenians, bitter against the Persian community and the Uzbeks. Later in
            representatives of the Armenian community of Kokand, the most
            active in this massacre, it was said that they were pushed to violence
            fear of Muslims declaring 'jihad'.

            The main forces of the Dashnaks burned Kokand and staged a massacre of local
            residents, but another detachment of Dashnaks after a battle with civilians
            Kokand captured the village of Suzak and shot all the inhabitants there.
            The third detachment of the Red Army, which included the Armenians
            Dashnaks, entered the battle with the popular rebels at Bazar-Kurgan and
            was forced to retreat. Within 20 days, all villages in this zone
            attacked, where all male Muslims, regardless
            by age, were killed. Those who survived buried the dead, but
            the Dashnaks appeared again and killed the rest, even those who
            prayed at fresh graves. "

            "In March 1919, at the extraordinary congress of the Soviets of Turkestan, his
            Muslim delegates proposed a resolution in which the
            moose the proposal 'to disarm and disband the troops of the Dashnaktsu-
            tune and clear the Red Guard of the criminal element. "

            "Under the control of the TurkCIK, the order to disarm the Dashnaks was
            executed according to reliable intelligence information about the presence of weapons and
            ammunition from the Armenian community of Fergana. Commission attracted parts
            The Red Army to conduct searches in homes and supporters of this
            organizations. Dashnaktsutyun members who resisted execution
            orders, were brought to trial by a military tribunal and shot. With
            sides of the commission, to prevent the arming of their tribes-
            nicknames, the Red Army Armenians gave an order to the command
            The Red Army in Turkestan to expel all Armenians from their ranks
            Red Army men. "

            Uzbeks “have not forgotten anything”. Then they gradually survived the Armenians from their lands. Today Uzbekistan has neither diplomatic nor trade relations with Armenia.
            1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
              Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 26 2021 16: 14
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              So Turkmens or Uzbeks? There, and the Russians gradually survived. I am sure local residents are equally "grateful" to the Red Army and the Soviet government for those events. Not a bit without justifying the Dashnaks, but what does this have to do with the Armenian genocide in Turkey, which also happened before?
              Even if some Armenians called to take the side of Russia, so what? Is this a sufficient reason for you to start the massacre of Armenian women, children and old people?
          3. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
            Just a cat (Bayun) April 26 2021 15: 14
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            "On the eve of the First World War on the initiative of the Armenian Church
            Armenian organizations "Gnchag" and "Dashnaktsutyun" held a congress,
            which made specific decisions against the Ottoman Empire.

            The first decision of this congress was - the Armenians who serve
            in the Ottoman army, in no case should they surrender their weapons, and
            after Russian troops approach, turn your weapon
            against the soldiers of the Ottoman army.

            The second decision taken at the congress was to start providing
            pressure on family members of Ottoman soldiers who remained in the villages.

            The third and most important decision is to achieve time by all means.
            the life of the Ottoman Empire in the upcoming war.

            Sultan of the Ottoman Empire 1909 - 1918 Mehmet V, and the generals
            Ottoman Army Rishad Pasha, Minister of War Enver Pasha, Minister
            the internal affairs of Talaat Pasha were aware of these plans.

            The battle lasted from December 1914 to the end of January 1915
            "Sarikamysh", during which the betrayal of the Armenians became apparent
            Ottoman Empire, defected to the side of the enemy. After that Os-
            the Mank Empire was forced to resort to the resettlement of Armenians from
            border zones to other regions of their country, as
            the leaders of this people, with the support of external forces, constantly carried out
            terror and sabotage in the rear of the Ottoman troops.
          4. isofat Offline isofat
            isofat (isofat) April 26 2021 22: 16
            +1
            Quote: Oleg Rambover
            Turumens in Central Asia? Are you in yourself? In any case, do you justify the mass executions of children, women, elderly people of Armenian nationality?

            Oleg Rambover... For one question, you ask as many as three, and the question is left unanswered. You are a dangerous person!

            PS This begs another question about whether you have a conscience. sad
      2. Bakht Offline Bakht
        Bakht (Bakhtiyar) April 26 2021 17: 34
        +2
        Van uprising
        The Van uprising was the most successful for the Armenians. The events unfolding around this city are characteristic of the Armenian plans and actions in the Ottoman East. In March 1915, an uprising flared up throughout the Van province and very soon acquired the character of an intercommunal war. Armenian troops attacked Kurdish villages. In response, the Kurds began to attack the villages of the Armenians. Massacres ensued on both sides.
        The Armenian revolutionaries had secret weapons storage facilities in Van and surrounding villages. Throughout April 1915, Armenian rebels infiltrated the city, which was guarded only by a small police force.
        Clashes with Ottoman police in Van began on 13 April.
        By April 20, the rebels were already firing at police stations,
        government buildings, houses of Muslims. As a result
        the clashes, the police were defeated, and in the first half of May were forced to leave the city.
        During the battles for the city and immediately after its capture by the Armenians, all Muslims who could not escape from Van were killed. The same fate befell the Muslim inhabitants of the adjacent villages, which came under the control of the Armenians. Muslims from villages located north of Van were herded to the village of Zeve, where all of them (about 3000 people), with a few exceptions, were exterminated. Similar atrocities took place throughout the region. In Van itself, all Muslim quarters were destroyed. There is practically not a single living Muslim left in the city. The refugees on the roads were ambushed by Armenian partisans who killed many people.

        Note. The Kurds, not the Turks, fought with the Armenians. But nowadays Kurds are the best friends of Armenians.
        1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
          Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 26 2021 17: 59
          -3
          I think it was local. As I understand it, this genocide was a deliberate policy of the Turkish authorities, and what forms it took on the ground is not so important.
          1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
            Just a cat (Bayun) April 26 2021 18: 44
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            Turkey's losses in hostilities in the First World War amounted to 550000 - 600000 people. In addition, more than two million died from disease, hunger and the actions of the Armenian and Greek gangs, who massacred the civilian population in the rear, i.e. for reasons not directly related to combat operations.
            1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
              Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 26 2021 20: 54
              -2
              Do you personally think that the actions of the Turkish authorities, which led to the deaths of more than a million Turkish Armenians, are justified?
          2. Bakht Offline Bakht
            Bakht (Bakhtiyar) April 26 2021 19: 04
            +1
            Wrong.

            The Ottoman deportation decision has been criticized for a long time. And I must say that those who raised a cry against the Ottomans, ignored historical facts and were guided by nationalist motives, still have real grounds for criticizing the deportations. The Ottoman government failed to protect its Armenian citizens, who had the right to security, and in this respect it did not justify itself. However, the fact that thousands of Turks and other Muslims were prosecuted and convicted of crimes against Armenians, shows that the Ottomans, at least, tried to resort to the law in order to protect the Armenian population.
            The other side of the issue is rarely touched upon. Armenian revolutionary groups such as the Dashnaks, which even today claim to be the true representatives of the Armenian people, were beyond any doubt the organizers of the mass extermination of the Turks and Kurds of Eastern Anatolia. They forced Muslims to resettle in the same way as the Ottomans - Armenians. But, in
            Unlike the Turks, the Armenians did not show any concern for their opponents.
            In any case, there are no data on this score. None of the Armenians have ever been held accountable by the Armenian government for attacks on Muslims. Their track record in this respect is more meager than that of the Ottomans. However, this fact is rarely mentioned and not taken into account.
            1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
              Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 26 2021 20: 52
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              Quote: Bakht
              However, the fact that thousands of Turks and other Muslims were prosecuted and convicted for crimes against Armenians shows that the Ottomans at least tried to resort to the law in order to protect the Armenian population.
              ...
              None of the Armenians have ever been held accountable by the Armenian government for attacks on Muslims.

              Turkey, as the losing side of WWI, was forced to do so by the winners.
              Which Armenian government?
              1. Bakht Offline Bakht
                Bakht (Bakhtiyar) April 26 2021 22: 50
                +3
                The one that was created as a result of the war.
                But in the case of Turkey, you are wrong again. The trials took place BEFORE the end of the war.
                The essence of what is happening is simple. Armenians and Turks have lived together for hundreds of years. And suddenly the Turks, because of their bloodthirstiness, began to slaughter the poor peace-loving Armenians. The real picture is very different.
                The nationalists wanted to create their own state. It could only be created on the lands of Turkey. Read the first programs of the Dashnaks. It says only about the blood and the expulsion of Muslims.
                But the most interesting thing is that it was not the Ottomans who lived in Eastern Anatolia, but the Kurds. And Kurds and Armenians slaughtered each other. The Turkish government carried out the deportation. Due to the weak organization, the deportation resulted in massive loss of life. Under the conditions of war, no government would tolerate guerrilla warfare in the rear. And the Turkish government punished Kurds for crimes against Armenians.
                Now the situation is a little different. And the Kurds want their own state and the Armenians have bigger eyes than a stomach. And the Kurds became the best friends of the Armenians. PKK and ASALA are friends. They have a common goal - territorial claims against Turkey. And both sides decided to forget about the genocide.
                And what about the victims. According to the 1914 census, 1,6 million Armenians lived on these lands. About 600 thousand died. But no one says that 2,5 million Muslims died on the same lands. And this is a consequence of the terror and deportation by the Armenians.
                That is why Armenia refuses to discuss archival documents.
          3. Bakht Offline Bakht
            Bakht (Bakhtiyar) April 26 2021 19: 12
            +1
            I recommend you the book by J. McCartney "Turks and Armenians. A Guide to the Armenian Question"

            He is not an Azerbaijani, not an Armenian, not a Turk, not a Kurd. This is an American scientist who has dedicated his work to the Middle East. The book is small and easy to read. Anti-Russian, by the way. But quite objective.
      3. Dukhskrepny Offline Dukhskrepny
        Dukhskrepny (Vasya) April 27 2021 12: 09
        +1
        Not separate. Under Sarykamysh in the Caucasus, units manned by the Armenians opened the front of the tsarist army, which was one of the main reasons for the defeat of the Turks. rassromed
        1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
          Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 27 2021 16: 29
          -1
          I am not aware of this fact. It was rather strange for the Turks to form national units, in whose loyalty there are doubts. Even so, what difference does it make? Is this an excuse for the Armenian genocide for you?
  2. Vladest Offline Vladest
    Vladest (Vladimir) April 26 2021 18: 47
    -1
    For the recognition of the Armenian genocide, the United States can pay with the Incirlik military base

    and it's worth it, what was more than a hundred years? At such a distance in the past, things are no longer so realistically perceived. How many are now crying about Moscow burnt in 1812 or 27 million victims in the Second World War? They will grumble, but they will continue to cooperate.
    1. kapitan92 Offline kapitan92
      kapitan92 (Vyacheslav) April 26 2021 18: 57
      +1
      Quote: Vladest
      At such a distance in the past, things are no longer so realistically perceived. How many are now crying about Moscow burnt in 1812 or 27 million victims in the Second World War? They will grumble, but they will continue to cooperate.

      In an attempt to earn your 30 pennies, you more and more resemble this "jackal". laughing

      1. Vladest Offline Vladest
        Vladest (Vladimir) April 26 2021 18: 58
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        Quote: kapitan92
        In an attempt to earn your 30 pennies, you more and more resemble this "jackal".

        Whoever has a head of pain about what, he speaks about that. !!!!
        If you were a patriot, you would not cite the Englishman Kipling as an example. At least Krylov.
        1. kapitan92 Offline kapitan92
          kapitan92 (Vyacheslav) April 26 2021 19: 00
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          Quote: Vladest
          Quote: kapitan92
          In an attempt to earn your 30 pennies, you more and more resemble this "jackal".

          Whoever has a head of pain about what, he speaks about that. !!!!

          This has already been written by your colleague, who is a purebred from Odessa. You repeat yourself! laughing
          1. Vladest Offline Vladest
            Vladest (Vladimir) April 26 2021 19: 33
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            In short, do not make excuses and learn Krylov's fables.