Why Putin is not afraid of the Ukrainian offensive in Donbass

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В previous text we examined the motivation of Kiev and Moscow in a possible conflict in Donbass, and why Putin ignores Zelensky and does not pick up the phone. In this we will touch upon the motivation of Washington and explain why, in fact, such a saber-rattling has happened now.

What Biden is seeking


It is quite understandable that the United States is catching the muddy water pouring in Ukraine now. The White House is the beneficiary of these events, from which everyone but himself is in danger of losing. In the event of a completely possible aggravation (no matter who starts it, the Russian Federation will be blamed anyway), and the quite easily predictable military and political defeat of Kiev, there will be no winners in this conflict. The territorial misunderstanding called "Ukraine" will forever disappear from the world map as a losing party, whether it will be absorbed by Russia, whether it will enter into it as a separate independent territorial entity or continue to exist in some other status, the winners will decide, not The UN Security Council (by the way, where is it? Something has not been heard for a long time!). But in this situation, Russia will also take full advantage of it. The real "Iron Curtain-2.0." Will descend before her, after which the "Iron Curtain-1.0.", Lowered by the collective West in front of the USSR, will seem to us child's play. This, in fact, is the ultimate goal of the United States. As a result, the whole world will fall at their feet and become bipolar again.



And Russia, as a reward, will receive a sentence - complete international isolation and the status of a rogue state, with all that it implies. On the contrary, the USA has a lot of bonuses. At first, due to the appearance of an external enemy, they will at once solve all their internal problems, consolidating the nation around a real external threat (and they now have a complete exit on the internal track). Secondly, Biden will be able to finally forget, like a bad dream, all these dirty hints from Putin about a multipolar world and the division of spheres of influence and do what he does best - fighting the Russians. Thirdly, the Yankees will regain their classic worst enemy, with which they can fight for decades, and NATO will once again return to its raison d'être. AND fourthly, the entire remaining free world in the face of blatant lawlessness will close its ranks around the one and only hegemon. Agree, there is something to fight for. And if for this it is necessary to sacrifice some kind of Ukraine, then this is not a question at all. It is strange that such a simple thought did not occur to Trump. Beat them all with one blow. And most importantly, the States themselves do not risk anything. No US Army soldier will be harmed in this case. The perfect solution. Classics of the genre! And to blame Biden for this is somehow even stupid - he has a desperate situation. The United States can only survive at our expense.

We run the risk of returning again to the 80s of the last century, when our limited contingent entered the DRA. Disconnection from SWIFT, arrest and blocking of all our accounts and assets in the West, with the blocking of all financial and other transport flows (goodbye to the unfinished SP-2 and other SP-1, Yamal-EU, I am not even talking about the Ukrainian pipe), a ban on exchange technology, the supply of spare parts and components, for the maintenance and repair of our foreign-made aircraft fleet (we have half of it there are Boeings and Airbuses, who will extend their air resource?). This I sketch only the first thing that comes to mind, every little thing like a sport, a flag, an anthem, doping, in general, forget it - there will be no time for them. How at the same time Rosatom will fulfill its contractual obligations on maintenance and replacement of nuclear fuel at foreign nuclear power plants under its jurisdiction, the Americans do not soar - they will be replaced by assemblies from Westinghouse. How they themselves will manage without our titanium - somehow they will manage, they will find in another place. Astronauts from the ISS are also being evacuated. But how Europe will manage without our gas, in my opinion, even she herself does not know. But she simply will not have a choice. Before the fact of blatant aggression on the territory of a sovereign state, everyone will break down.

Europe will be just that tidbit that will go to America, which sacrificed such a dubious asset as Ukraine for its sake. It is for Europe and who will milk it that the war broke out here, if anyone has not yet understood it. The States don't care about Ukraine, they don't even care about Russia. They fought for the EU and the exclusion of the Russian Federation from its market. A united Europe from Beijing to Lisbon is America's nightmare. If this happened, then the world hegemon would turn into a small regional power with a sphere of influence no further than North and Latin America, in fact, which he was in the 19th century before the First World War. It is no coincidence that I wrote above from Beijing, and not from Vladivostok to Lisbon, because China was the final beneficiary of this project, and the New Silk Trade Route does not lead to the Russian Federation, but through the Russian Federation to the EU. Therefore, in this war, even Russia is a splinter that can fly off in a fight in which two lumberjacks - America and China - have come together. The fight is not for life, but for death. We will see who will win soon. So far it's a draw.

Considering all these threats, especially against the background of the unfolding large-scale NATO exercises in the Black Sea region, where US armored vehicles from nearby areas are being pulled together (some of them even without changing the desert camouflage), the air wing is pulled up and in the waters of the Black Sea, changing each other, attack missile ships of the US Navy enter and other NATO members, Russia is forced to take a number of preventive measures, proceeding from the principle: "It's better to stay out of sight than to fail!"

"If a fight is inevitable, then you must hit first!"


All of you, probably, remember this famous statement of Putin, put in a subtitle. This is the very case when it is not applicable. We got into a stalemate where we couldn't hit first, so all our activity went into the accompanying scenery. Moreover, some especially impressionable citizens behind these decorations did not consider the main thing - for the sake of which they, in fact, were erected. Those. behind the fence they did not see the forest, and some did not even see the fence, only its media accompaniment. I will try to remove unnecessary fears. Everything that you are now observing is not preparation for war. There will be no war - there will be maneuvers.

Better to overtake than not to overtake


Recently, the Russian press and political Top bloggers' topics are off scale from bravura marches and jingoistic military rhetoric on the theme: "You just stick your head and you won't collect bones!" If we add to this and newsarriving every day in real time about the pulling of NATO troops to our borders, as well as the reciprocal movements of Russian troops in the direction of Ukraine-Crimea, the oil painting will be complete. Naturally, this topic does not go unnoticed on television channels, crowds of experts and military analysts roam around them, excitedly discussing the prospects for a possible confrontation and how it all might end. The recipient of this product is the internal audience, but it is not addressed to them at all, but to our old sworn "partner friends" from NATO and Washington, as well as their lost shores Ukrainian and other Baltic-Polish-Romanian-Georgian satellites-hangers-on, jumping out of their pants in impotent hatred of the Russian Federation.

The level of incompetence of the authors who describe all this is striking in all this. The eyes are dazzled by self-propelled heavy 240-mm mortars 2S4 "Tulip", no less formidable self-propelled 152-mm howitzers 2S19 "Msta-S", the world's most powerful 203-mm self-propelled artillery units 2S7 "Pion" and 2S7M "Malka" , echelons on open platforms sent to the borders of Ukraine from Siberia and Krasnodar Territory. I would like to draw your attention to the fact that this is the heaviest artillery in service with the Russian Armed Forces. The 58th Army, which took part in forcing Georgia to peace in 2008, and the Pskov paratroopers of the 76th Guards Airborne Assault Division, in particular their 104th Regiment, stationed in the village of Cheryokha, are moving in the same direction. to Crimea. This is the elite of the Russian troops. If we add to them the Buryat tankers, together with their T-72s moved to the borders of Ukraine from Yurga, Kemerovo region, as well as the best Russian anti-aircraft missile systems Pantsir-C1 and S-400, hastily transferred to the Crimea, allegedly for participation in the exercises, one can understand the uncertainty of the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Colonel-General Khomchak, who has changed his testimony several times over the past two weeks about the readiness of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to solve the tasks assigned to them. Now the military scenario for the liberation of Donbass has become unacceptable for them. How! Less than two weeks later, and such a sharp reversal. And the wording begins to swing - you see, the civilian population may suffer. Those. before that, the civilian population did not bother them, but then, seeing the equestrian-diving armored Buryat divisions of the “killer-Putin”, who had lost touch with reality, immediately began to worry about the fate of their own citizens.

And this is despite the US Air Force military transport planes landing one after the other at the airports of Kiev and Lvov, transferring unknown military cargoes there from their military bases in Europe. I don’t even remember about five military transports of the Qatar Air Force and another Turkish Air Force transporter that disembarked in Kiev in the second half of March. As well as about the dry cargo ship, chartered by the Pentagon, which delivered 25 tons to Odessa on March 350, it was also not at all civilian cargo. And already about such small things as NATO ships changing each other on a rotational basis in the Black Sea, somehow I don't even want to remember. They simply registered there, of course, in compliance with the Mantreux convention on displacement and duration of stay (no more than 21 days). What difference does it make to us that the Spanish missile frigates Cristobal Colón (F-105) and Mеndez Nunez (F-104), which participated there in two different NATO exercises (Sea Shield-2021 and Poseidon-2021), together with the American missile cruiser USS Monterey (CG-61) and attack missile destroyer USS Thomas Hudner (DDG-116), were rotated by two other US Navy destroyers - our old acquaintance USS Donald Cook (DDG-75) and his brother USS Roosevelt (DDG -80)? As a result, we have that the ships of the US Navy and other non-Black Sea NATO countries were registered there on a permanent basis and, together with the ships of the Naval Forces of Bulgaria, Romania and Turkey, in the course of incessant, one after the other exercises are preparing to repel Russian "aggression".

Particularly touching against this background are the cheerful statements of some expert bloggers far from military topics (and, moreover, women) that all uninvited guests will happily await the unsinkable aircraft carrier "Crimea", nominated into the Black Sea, with its coastal missile systems "Ball "And" Bastion ", equipped with anti-ship missiles" Onyx "and X-35" Uranus ", and the ships of the Caspian Flotilla hurrying to help him, equipped with cruise" Caliber-NK ". And this is not counting three more large landing ships "Minsk", "Kaliningrad" and "Korolev", which, accompanied by the attack corvette "Boyky", are moving in the same direction from the Baltic. One would like to ask these experts, how do you know the destination of these three large landing craft and the accompanying corvette? So far they have passed only the English Channel and entered the North Atlantic. They are being watched by the US Air Force, but no one knows yet where they will go, to Syria or to Sevastopol. And why such a strengthening of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, which is armed with enough funds to sink several times in a row everything that floats there under different flags in the waters of the Black Sea, which is shot through and through. These American destroyers, which will enter the Black Sea on April 14-15 (at the time of writing, they have passed only Gibraltar) and will stay there until May 4-5, are potential drowned people if something starts there. And they know it very well. Therefore, they are there not at all for a war with the Russian Federation, but for target designation and suppression of Russian air defense and aerospace forces, if, God forbid, Kiev does start a mess, which has been planned for 7 years.

In the meantime, all this clanking, flying and moving on the sea armada, is preparing for the long-announced exercises "Defender Europe-2021", which from March to June should be held in several European countries at the same time, and Ukraine is one of them. During the declared exercises in the water area from the Baltic to the Black Seas, with the involvement of 28 thousand troops from 26 countries, actions to repel armed aggression will be practiced, guess who? Therefore, the equipment is brought from all over Europe, some even in desert camouflage (it can be seen that it arrived from Africa), therefore the sides land in Kiev and Lvov, and dry cargo ships are unloaded in Odessa. Therefore, Russia is pulling its troops into this region, because it does not know how these exercises can end, while simultaneously conducting its large-scale strategic exercises "West-2021" in the territory from Kaliningrad and Belarus to the Crimean Peninsula and Kuban.

Why is Russia acting this way? Because Ukraine has become a part of Defender Europe-2021, although the legend of the exercises says that she is only an observer, not a participant in these exercises. And how can it be a participant in NATO exercises without being a member of this organization? It would seem that the question is rhetorical. An, no - I further quote the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine:

The transfer of US weapons to Ukraine coincided with the announcement of the upcoming Cossack Bulava exercise to repel a large-scale offensive of the mock aggressor into Ukraine. According to the scenario of the exercises, the headquarters and units of the multinational brigade are involved in repelling a large-scale offensive by the armed forces of the conditional aggressor country. The operational-strategic background of the exercises takes into account the possible development of the military-political situation around Ukraine.

The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine clarified that they will work out actions in defense with a further transition to the offensive in order to restore the state border and the territorial integrity of the state. More than a thousand servicemen from five NATO countries will take part in the exercise. The dates of the "Cossack Bulava" are not named.

Guess from three times which aggressor country you are talking about and why the Ukrainian military does not name the exact dates of the exercises? Because the script is written in the course of the play. And Russia, by its preventive actions, is making significant amendments to the script previously written and approved by the Customer (in Washington). And the fact that the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine changed the previously announced plans to restore the integrity of Ukraine by force and de-occupy Donbass is the result of these actions.

PS


While the material was being written, it became known that NATO's plans had changed dramatically. USS Donald Cook (DDG 75) and USS Roosevelt (DDG 80), which were supposed to enter the Black Sea on April 14-15 and stay there until May 4-5, declared for the exercise, the USS Donald Cook (DDG 14) and USS Roosevelt (DDG XNUMX) strike missile destroyers, suddenly changed their route abruptly and nowhere no longer go. On April XNUMX, Washington officially informed about this, notifying Ankara about the cancellation of the aforementioned passage of a group of ships through the Bosphorus and Dardanelles. And you say the gunboat policy doesn't work. How it works! It's just that our coastal gunboats turned out to be more terrible.
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  1. +9
    April 19 2021 10: 08
    So why is "Putin not afraid of the Ukrainian offensive in Donbas"?
    1. +4
      April 19 2021 10: 33
      Quote: Bakht
      So why is "Putin not afraid of the Ukrainian offensive in Donbas"?

      Because Zelenskiy did it before Biden took off his pants.
    2. avg
      +5
      April 19 2021 15: 30
      Quote: Bakht
      So why is "Putin not afraid of the Ukrainian offensive in Donbas"?

      The impression is that the author rolled for ease of presentation of the material, but went over it a little.
    3. +1
      April 19 2021 21: 48
      there will be no offensive, there will be maneuvers
      1. +1
        April 19 2021 22: 26
        there will be no offensive, there will be maneuvers

        Check out all the "materials" of local "experts" of the last two weeks (including yours) on the topic, why "war is inevitable" can be written off for junk ???

        Together with ekperdy. feel

        azochen wei laughing
        1. 0
          April 20 2021 03: 08
          uncle wants to appear smarter than he really is? is ulysses a Jew? I thought better of the Jews! in the same place it is written in black and white:

          Because the script is written in the course of the play. And Russia with its preventive actions makes significant amendments to the script previously written and approved by the Customer (in Washington). And the fact that the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine changed the previously announced plans to restore the integrity of Ukraine by force and de-occupy Donbass is the result of these actions.

          for you - I highlighted in bold!
      2. +1
        April 20 2021 08: 18
        Then why the whole article about horror films in case of war? Yes, you wrote that

        Everything that you are now observing is not preparation for war. There will be no war - there will be maneuvers.

        But you wrote in the same article that

        The White House is the beneficiary of these events, from which everyone but himself is in danger of losing.

        Agree, there is something to fight for. And if for this it is necessary to sacrifice some kind of Ukraine, then this is not a question at all. It is strange that such a simple thought did not occur to Trump. Beat them all with one blow. And most importantly, the States themselves do not risk anything. No US Army soldier will be harmed in this case. The perfect solution. Classics of the genre!

        Since it was written a million times that Kiev blindly fulfills ALL orders from Washington, and the war is beneficial to the States, why are you sure that there will be no war?
        1. +1
          April 20 2021 14: 51
          It is this card that Putin wants to play, refusing to communicate with the not decisive Clown, pulling his troops to the Ukrainian borders, forcing his overseas Master to scratch his turnips and think what kind of game the Kremlin has started? Although I would not scratch anything in his place. It is already clear from Moscow's steps which scenario it has chosen for itself. She had only two options. First, if the Kremlin does not want to get involved in a conflict with Ukraine and is trying in every possible way to delay its beginning, it will have to very clearly and extremely rigidly designate the banks over which it is impossible to swim. Those. he will have to clearly articulate that he does not want a conflict, but if it is initiated by the Ukrainian side, then nothing will stop him in this case. This will be the end of Ukrainian statehood, and we ourselves, as a winner, will decide in what status this territorial misunderstanding will continue to exist.

          If Moscow does not make such a message, it will be clear from this that it has chosen the second scenario for itself, in which it sits on the shore and lazily and restrainedly watches the escalation of events in Donbass, without reacting in any way to the preparations of the Armed Forces for a military solution question, thereby driving Kiev into a trap prepared in advance, so that when the trap slams shut, respond to such steps with all the force of his arms and solve the Ukrainian problem by surgery radically once and for all. The statements already made by Russian officials are enough to understand that Moscow has chosen the first option for itself - maintaining the status quo.

          From the fact that Biden called first and offered a dialogue, it became clear that Putin's plan worked, and Washington took the bait.
          1. +1
            April 20 2021 15: 13
            First, if the Kremlin does not want to get involved in a conflict with Ukraine and is trying in every possible way to delay its beginning, it will have to very clearly and extremely rigidly designate the banks over which it is impossible to swim. Those. he will have to clearly articulate that he does not want a conflict, but if it is initiated by the Ukrainian side, then in this case, nothing will stop him.

            the second scenario, ... thereby driving Kiev into a trap prepared in advance, so that when the trap slams shut, respond to such steps with all the force of his weapon and to solve the Ukrainian problem by surgery radically once and for all.

            In both of your options, there is a military solution, that is, war. And at the same time

            there will be no offensive, there will be maneuvers
            1. +1
              April 20 2021 15: 15
              I'm not going to advise you in any way. But I would write differently
              "Putin is not afraid of the Ukrainian Armed Forces offensive in Donbass, because he is ready for war."
            2. 0
              April 20 2021 15: 22
              Now let's talk about the markers that allow me to assert that war is inevitable and that it will begin in the near future (unless, of course, Vova Putin comes up with anything). He is already making every effort to turn Ukraine away from the scenario prescribed by Washington, but he has zero chances to somehow influence it. From the word "zero". He needs to seize the initiative, play the first number, asymmetrically, as he always does (and what our enemies are so afraid of), but there are few options. If I were in his place, I would simply try to break the American plan by playing ahead of the curve. When plans are exposed, the meaning of their implementation falls at times. You just need to go live (with the involvement of a lot of journalists) with an official statement that in the event of an invasion of the Ukrainian Armed Forces on the territory of the LPNR or Crimea, Russia simply will have no other option than not to answer all the military arsenal it has (namely, the military! ) funds. Responsibility for this and the possible consequences will lie solely with the Director of this banana republic and those behind him on both sides of the ocean (I mean London and Washington). I don’t think that such a statement will go unnoticed (“Putin the killer” was noticed even on the sidelines of Biden’s speech), but after that Moscow’s hands will be untied (we warned you! What claims against us?), And the impending sanctions against it will already be applied somehow not comme il faut. Thus, the victim and the hunter change places, Moscow from a victim of manipulative control itself becomes a manipulator, changing places with the hunter-Biden, although the loaded buckshot gun is still in his hands (I hope the allegory is clear).

              I already wrote about this - Putin followed my instructions. Therefore, Biden overdid it and decided to limit himself to maneuvers.
              1. +4
                April 20 2021 15: 48
                These are all words ... Want a marker? You are welcome.
                A month ago, some said that the LDNR would hold out for 2-3 days (a week). In particular, Strelkov-Girkin. And suddenly, unexpectedly (out of thin air), a group of 150 thousand people, plus a maritime component, appeared on the Russia-LDNR border. Can NATO move 150 thousand people in a couple of thousand kilometers in a week? But some units were nominated from Siberia.
                That is, the General Staff of the Russian Federation decided that war was inevitable and made preparations.
                Your second thesis that the keys are in Washington - I completely agree with this and have always stated this.
                Your third thesis is that the prize is not poverty-stricken Ukraine and not the low-income market of the Russian Federation. The prize is Europe. I also completely agree and have always stated this. It is unprofitable for the states to bark at China (the second economy in the world and a mass of industries necessary for America itself) and are afraid to bark at the Russian Federation (it is a vigorous bomb in Washington, too).
                The prize is Europe. But Europe refused to participate in this adventure. The Germans said, "Somehow without us," and decided to finish building the SP-2. And the Russian army will cope with the limitrophes in a couple of weeks.
                Frostbitten brains remain in Kiev. But they don't solve anything. There will be an order from behind a puddle, they will start an offensive. There will be no order - everything will end. But there is one more nuance. Ukraine keeps troops on the front line. But it is impossible for Russia to keep troops in the field all the time. This marker must also be taken into account.
                And for more, our analysis is not enough. There is no data.
                1. +1
                  April 20 2021 16: 21
                  I will reveal to you a military secret (only about this to anyone!), on the border with us not 150 thousand, but only 42, this is enough, the rest of the thousand we are pumping in the infospace. We are not sure about the "partners" who are preparing for their maneuvers (who knows what they have in mind?), So we decided to play it safe just in case. And the "partners" are clueless against a nuclear power to poke their heads (excuse my French), it's one thing to risk taking out soldiers, another thing with their destroyers, so they hand over back under the guise of negotiations
                  1. +1
                    April 20 2021 17: 11
                    Unlike you, I am not informed about the quantitative and qualitative composition of the group. So we will not discuss this issue. As well as the direction of the strikes and the intention of the military command.
                    But political decisions are in sight. The point is that there will be no negotiations. Moscow does not talk to Kiev in principle. And an ultimatum has been delivered to Washington. The next marker that should clarify something is the online climate negotiations. Likely scheduled for April 22nd. Biden invited the "killer" to talk. Has Putin agreed to participate? I haven’t heard that yet.
                    Another marker. Negotiations through ambassadors are virtually curtailed. The US Ambassador can puff out his cheeks and make a smart complexion. The Russian Foreign Ministry will tell him "Have you held consultations in Washington? No? Then there is nothing to talk about." In fact, the US Ambassador to Russia is not shaking hands at the moment and there can be no negotiations.
                    1. 0
                      April 20 2021 17: 22
                      Information. All claims to Shoigu
                      https://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2021/04/13/7290050/

                      According to Shoigu, control check of the armed forces of the Russian Federation, during which the troops were deployed on the border with Ukraine, planned to be completed within 2 weeks.

                      This was said on April 13th. That is, one week has already passed.
                    2. 0
                      April 20 2021 17: 37
                      Flew out of my head.
                      4th marker. He then can become the main one.
                      Message from the President of the Russian Federation on April 21. I mean tomorrow. Expectations from toothless "concerns" to the recognition of the LDNR as independent entities within the former administrative boundaries.
                      It’s not long to wait.
                      1. +1
                        April 20 2021 19: 14
                        infa about the size of the group is open, it was confirmed by the states, 42 thousand people - no more, not counting the 32 thousand contingent in the Crimea and the same number of local formations in the LPR. Tomorrow the Address of the GDP of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation - tomorrow everything will become clear! Everyone is already afraid in advance!
                      2. +2
                        April 20 2021 20: 52
                        I will not argue. No information. But there is a message from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation that units of 2 armies and several special forces have been deployed. These are parts of the Airborne Forces, apparently. Two armies, most likely the 1st tank and the 8th. Ukrainians also write about the 20th army, which is being created in the Voronezh region. The Ukrainians also write that two LPR corps are included in the 8th Army.
                        If 30-40 thousand people in Crimea is enough (but the main task of Crimea is the Black Sea), then 42 thousand on the eastern border of Ukraine are not so many.
                        I can repeat once again, the optimal political solution (in my opinion).
                        Inflate 2 LDPR corps with the "northern wind" and, in response to yet another shelling, start full-scale hostilities. The Russian Federation introduces a no-fly zone over the East of Ukraine and everything that flies (Ukrainian, American or Turkish) is lost without a difference. The salvation of Ukraine is the work of the Ukrainians themselves. Russia can only help with "military trade", the north wind "and volunteers. At the first stage, it is necessary to reach the borders of the two regions. But this is already a military component, which I try not to touch.
                        And the political task is that the LDNR must defeat the Armed Forces grouping with the help of the "north wind". WITHOUT official participation of the Russian Armed Forces.

                        About Putin's message. The highest expectations are the declaration of Lugansk and Donetsk as subjects of international law with their recognition and the requirement to enter the administrative boundaries. But I'm afraid we won't hear it tomorrow.
                      3. 0
                        April 20 2021 23: 26
                        war is not included in Putin's plans, the LPNR corps themselves cannot attack, their task is to hold back the offensive until ours arrive (it is not a fact that they will even hold out for 2 hours, with a 10-fold superiority of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, created in a separate section of the breakthrough)
      3. +2
        April 20 2021 08: 26
        I am explaining my idea.
        Fast forward to 1941. To Hitler, the war against the USSR seemed to be the ideal solution. The defeat of the USSR means free access to resources and incapacitates England's last continental hope. Since the USSR is weak, the war will last 3 months and England is forced to sign a surrender. The perfect solution.
        The USSR did not need the war, and Stalin tried to prevent the war with preventive measures (training, pulling troops to the border).
        It was simply vital for the United States and Great Britain to involve the USSR in the war.
        Is there no analogy? History has shown that war has broken out. And from preventive measures in Moscow NOTHING DEPENDED.
        1. +1
          April 20 2021 08: 37
          Necessary addition. Your article dated April 05, 2021
          https://topcor.ru/19317-donbass-vojny-nikto-ne-hotel-vojna-byla-neizbezhna.html#comment-id-161527

          The current top leadership of the Russian Federation has no illusions about Kiev, it is well aware of its plans, and has recently been making titanic efforts to avoid a negative development of events for itself. The only difference is that they cannot change anything. The key to this box is in Washington's hands. and no Berlin and Paris are no longer able to influence the possessed Kiev.
        2. 0
          April 20 2021 14: 47
          and what were the preventive measures taken by Moscow in 1941?
      4. 0
        April 20 2021 14: 29
        That's right Volodya! Painted too much wink but the message is correct !!! good
  2. -9
    April 19 2021 10: 39
    The real "Iron Curtain-2.0." Will descend before her, after which the "Iron Curtain-1.0.", Lowered by the collective West in front of the USSR, will seem to us child's play.

    Actually, the Iron Curtain was built by the USSR.
    1. +5
      April 19 2021 11: 16
      Quote: Oleg Rambover
      The real "Iron Curtain-2.0." Will descend before her, after which the "Iron Curtain-1.0.", Lowered by the collective West in front of the USSR, will seem to us child's play.

      Actually, the Iron Curtain was built by the USSR.

      Iron Curtain - political cliché, introduced into active circulation by W. Churchill on March 5, 1946 in his Fulton speeches and marked the beginning of the Cold War. It marked an informational, political and border barrier isolating the USSR and other socialist countries from the capitalist countries of the West.
      The term "Iron Curtain" was used in a propaganda sense even before Churchill by Georges Clemenceau (1919) and Joseph Goebbels (1945).

      The isolation policy was reciprocal. hi
      1. -4
        April 19 2021 12: 47
        The Iron Curtain fell over the continent stretching from Stettin in the Baltic to Trieste in the Adriatic. All the capitals of the ancient states of central and eastern Europe lie behind this line. Warsaw, Berlin, Prague, Vienna, Budapest, Belgrade, Bucharest and Sofia, all these famous cities and the population around them are, as I call it, in the Soviet sphere and in one form or another are subject not only to Soviet influence, but also to high , and in a number of cases and to an ever-increasing degree of control by Moscow

        All the same, it means that the USSR dropped this curtain. But you are probably right, there were some actions on the part of the "West", but I can't remember which ones. I only remember exit visas, jammers of "voices".
        1. +3
          April 19 2021 13: 05
          Quote: Oleg Rambover
          All the same, it means that the USSR dropped this curtain. But you are probably right, there were some actions on the part of the "West", but I can't remember which ones.

          As for the terminology, we figured it out. Clemenceau, Goebbels, Churchill, in different years introduced this term into international politics.
          Here is a quote from the famous speech of W. Churchill.

          From Stettin in the Baltic to Trieste in the Adriatic, across the continent, the Iron Curtain was drawn. Behind this line are all the capitals of the ancient states of Central and Eastern Europe: Warsaw, Berlin, Prague, Vienna, Budapest, Belgrade, Bucharest and Sofia, all these famous cities with the population around them are in what I should call the Soviet sphere, and all of them, in one form or another, are objects not only of Soviet influence, but also of very high, and in some cases growing, control by Moscow ... The communist parties, which were very small in all these Eastern European states, have been raised to a position and strength far outnumbered, and they are trying to achieve totalitarian control in everything.

          In the USSR, this speech was considered a signal for the start of the Cold War. The political cliché has become a very real informational, political and even border barrier that isolated the USSR and the socialist countries from the "capitalist West".

          The insulation was double-sided. The West believed that the "curtain" was raised by the USSR as part of its policy of self-isolation and the search for an external enemy, writes britannica.com. In the USSR, they called the capitalists insulators and actively used this idea in propaganda.

          And sanctions are not new at all. During the Soviet era, they were often applied to the Union. Refusal to sell pipes for main pipelines, refusal to sell precision equipment for machine tools, etc.
          1. -3
            April 19 2021 13: 28
            Quote: kapitan92
            In the USSR, this speech was considered a signal for the start of the Cold War. The political cliché has become a very real informational, political and even border barrier that isolated the USSR and the socialist countries from the "capitalist West".

            I think in the USSR and before that they considered the West an enemy. I just have not heard that border barriers were created from the west. But about informational information, then the USSR tried to create its own Russia Today and Sputnik radio? Or the mouthpiece was pro-communist publications in the west.

            Quote: kapitan92
            As for the terminology, we figured it out. Clemenceau, Goebbels, Churchill, in different years introduced this termite into international politics.
            Here is a quote from the famous speech of W. Churchill.

            This would happen as follows: if the Germans lay down their arms, the Soviets, according to the agreement between Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin, would occupy all of Eastern and Southeastern Europe along with most of the Reich. The Iron Curtain would fall behind this vast territory ruled by the Soviet Union, behind which there will be dead countries.

            Goebbels also meant the self-isolation of the USSR and its satellites.
            Only Clemenceau spoke in favor of isolation from outside.
            1. +3
              April 19 2021 13: 45
              Quote: Oleg Rambover
              Goebbels also meant the self-isolation of the USSR and its satellites.

              Not. Goebbels meant the "Iron Curtain" after the complete occupation of the USSR. The "outcasts" must feed and provide the "great Reich" with everything necessary, naturally under the careful guidance of the "Gauleiter", without crossing the "red line".

              Quote: Oleg Rambover
              I think in the USSR and before that they considered the West an enemy.

              How would you think after the intervention of the Entente troops in Russia? (France, England, Greece, States, Japan, etc.).

              Quote: Oleg Rambover
              But about informational information, then the USSR tried to create its own Russia Today and Sputnik radio? Or the mouthpiece was pro-communist publications in the west.

              Radio "Sputnik" (earlier - "Moscow Radio", "Voice of Russia") appeared in 1929, and now it broadcasts to 42 countries.
              New Russian information channel in English Russia Today. appeared in 2005.
              1. -2
                April 19 2021 17: 30
                Quote: kapitan92
                Not. Goebbels meant the "Iron Curtain" after the complete occupation of the USSR. The "outcasts" must feed and provide the "great Reich" with everything necessary, naturally under the careful guidance of the "Gauleiter", without crossing the "red line".

                The article was written in 45. It is unlikely that at this time he had hopes not only for the complete occupation of the USSR (such a task was never set), but also that the "Millennial Reich" would last at least six months.

                Quote: kapitan92
                How would you think after the intervention of the Entente troops in Russia? (France, England, Greece, States, Japan, etc.).

                Well, probably just as the neighbors of the USSR thought after the aggression against Poland, Finland, Romania, the Baltic states. And the intervention, they are also at the invitation of the legitimate (???) white government.

                Quote: kapitan92
                Radio "Sputnik" (earlier - "Moscow Radio", "Voice of Russia") appeared in 1929, and now it broadcasts to 42 countries.
                New Russian information channel in English Russia Today. appeared in 2005.

                So it was jammed?
                1. +3
                  April 19 2021 18: 48
                  Quote: Oleg Rambover
                  Well, probably just as the neighbors of the USSR thought after the aggression against Poland, Finland, Romania, the Baltic states.

                  Most of the countries you listed were part of the Republic of Ingushetia, and only after certain historical events did they receive "independence".

                  Quote: Oleg Rambover
                  And the intervention, they are also at the invitation of the legitimate (???) white government.

                  Oh, is it? And where was this "legitimate government" and who represented it?
                  It was a banal robbery and destruction of the population.
                  By the way, in 68g, the legitimate government of Czechoslovakia was in its own country
                  And at his request, assistance was provided in the form of troops of the Warsaw Pact countries. winked

                  Quote: Oleg Rambover
                  So it was jammed?

                  Moscow radio began broadcasting in 29. By the end of 1945, Moscow Radio was broadcasting in 29 languages.

                  Have they jammed "Moscow Radio" or not? I don't know. laughing
                  Let's get it in order!
                  Churchill's speech 5 March 46g.
                  The first foreign media available to citizens of the USSR was BBC Russian Service. The radio station began broadcasting on March 26, 1946. In 1947 began to work for the Soviet audience began a radio station "Voice of America".
                  In 1953, the first broadcast of "Liberation from Bolshevism" - the future Radio Liberty - took place.
                  Since 1948 pbroadcasts of foreign radio stations began to jam.
                  In 1964 year by decision of the Central Committee of the CPSU, in opposition to the enemy voices, radio station "Mayak"
                  By November 30, 1988, all jammers on the territory of the USSR were turned off.
                  "Voice of America" ​​stopped broadcasting on the radio in Russia in 2008, in 2011, the example of colleagues followed in the BBC. Both stations continued broadcasting on the Internet; in the same 2011, Deutsche Welle decided to completely abandon broadcasting in Russian and focus on its website and social media accounts. Radio Liberty continues broadcasting in the medium wave range.
                  The isolation policy was reciprocal.
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                    April 19 2021 19: 16
                    Quote: kapitan92
                    Most of the countries you listed were part of the Republic of Ingushetia and only after certain historical events did they receive "independence"

                    And what does that change?
                    Do you know what goals the Comintern set for itself?

                    Quote: kapitan92
                    Oh, is it? And where was this "legitimate government" and who represented it?
                    It was a banal robbery and destruction of the population.
                    By the way, in 68g, the legitimate government of Czechoslovakia was in its own country
                    And at his request, assistance was provided in the form of troops of the Warsaw Pact countries.

                    At that time, the Bolsheviks could hardly be called a legitimate government.
                    And what about the robbery and destruction of the population in more detail?
                    Met such pictures




                    Well, the Entente also considered the whites to be a legitimate government and responded to their call (although not really).

                    Quote: kapitan92
                    The isolation policy was reciprocal.

                    So what is the reciprocity? What retaliatory actions did the "West" take?
                    1. +2
                      April 19 2021 19: 24
                      Quote: Oleg Rambover
                      So what is the reciprocity? What retaliatory actions did the "West" take?

                      Retaliatory actions were taken by the USSR, in response to the threats of the "West".
                      Churchill's 1945 Plan (Operation Unthinkable)
                      The first American plans of 1945 for the nuclear bombing of the USSR
                      1946 "Totality" plan
                      Churchill's 1947 plan for the nuclear bombing of the USSR
                      Dropshot 1949
                      1956 SAC plan
                      I think this will be enough for your understanding! hi
                      1. -4
                        April 19 2021 20: 55
                        I didn't understand the connection. In response to this, the USSR increased its military power. Without going into the essence of these plans, how did the "Iron Curtain" help in the confrontation? If, in response to a threat, they prohibit their citizens from leaving, it is like bombing Voronezh.
                        About the plans. At least until the beginning of the 60s, the USSR was not able to retaliate against the United States, but for some reason they did not dare. The real plan of countering the USSR, which was adhered to in the United States, is formulated in George Kennan's "Long Telegram".
                2. +3
                  April 19 2021 19: 25
                  Oleg Rambover, I know you better than kapitan92, do not fool people with their heads.

                  When Churchill used the term "Iron Curtain", he witnessed the strengthening of the USSR's position and was concerned about the spread of communist ideas throughout the world. Everything is clear here. Curtain.

                  What do your words mean - the USSR was the first to lower the curtain? I understand Churchill better.
  3. +5
    April 19 2021 11: 01
    There is an exacerbation, as in the late 20s between the USSR and the West.

    In the late 20s, the international position of the USSR deteriorated sharply. The anti-Soviet campaign was initiated by the Conservative government of England. The reasons for the worsening of the situation were the collision of interests of the USSR and England, other powers in China.

    The immediate cause of the military-diplomatic crisis between the USSR and Great Britain was the revolutionary events in China and their support from the USSR, which provoked a tough reaction from Great Britain, which began to lose its colonial positions in China.

    Now the role of Great Britain was taken by the United States, which also began to lose their colonial positions in China.
    1. -2
      April 19 2021 18: 54
      Like other levers, the sharp exaggeration of the military threat played into the hands
      Stalin, who used it against the opposition, moreover, who announced
      the existence of a "united front from Chamberlain to Trotsky". That it is
      it was just like that, testified by the People's Commissar for Foreign Affairs G.V. Chicherin,
      who told the American journalist Louis Fischer in 1929: "In June 1927, I
      returned from Western Europe. Everyone in Moscow talked about the war. I did my best
      dissuade them. "Nobody is planning an attack on us." I insisted. Then
      a colleague enlightened me. He said, `` We know that. But we need this for
      struggle against Trotsky. '' Chicherin and later strongly denied the danger of an attack
      capitalist countries to the USSR, and in internal correspondence simply
      ridiculed this propaganda stunt. He wrote to Stalin on March 22, 1930, "In
      of our Moscow speeches it was said that the danger of war
      between capitalist states. and, consequently, attacks on
      us. What nonsense how you can say such things !! "

      How would you comment on this?
  4. -2
    April 19 2021 11: 12
    As a result, the whole world will fall at their feet and become bipolar again.

    Generally, bipolar is bi-polar.
    1. +3
      April 19 2021 13: 42
      Quote: Oleg Rambover
      As a result, the whole world will fall at their feet and become bipolar again.

      Generally bipolar is two polar.

      hi Oleg, yes you are, straight, "Lumps of Mind" -do you even know the meaning of the word "bipolar" ?! wink good
      You, honestly, are now like that young schoolboy who has learned the meaning of a new word for himself and is in a hurry to boast about it "to the whole world" ?! wassat
      It seems, about that and the speech in the Article that "the Iron Curtain-2 will fall" and the world will once again become TWO-polar and extremely clear (without any "semitones"!) - "marked" - "Empire of Evil" and "Empire of Good" ?! winked
      Glad for you, Oleg, that we figured out the word "bipolar"!
      And I was more "come in" and "messed with the brain" of another "pearl (pearl of speech)" respected Vladimir Volkonsky, clearly "not for average minds" written:

      "... (and now they have on the inside track full out). "

      Here I am arrogantly "flattering myself" that (thanks to the general contextual "message of the Article" and my "preparedness") I correctly guessed and "grasped" this "Author's semantic charade" (although I am still not 100% sure of this! ) ??! what
      1. -1
        April 19 2021 17: 19
        That is, you want to say that the United States is going to transform today's largely unipolar world into a bipolar one and make it one of the poles of the Russian Federation. So this is nonsense.
  5. +3
    April 19 2021 11: 19
    Russia will grab a sweet cous - Ukraine with a population willing to eat Russian potatoes!
    And the sanctions, the iron curtain - bullshit - in a couple of years they will wash off the toilet!
  6. +1
    April 19 2021 13: 14
    ... The level of incompetence of the authors who describe all this is striking in all this ...

    and further:

    ... statements by some non-military bloggers-experts ...

    The author, are you talking about yourself ?! winked
    1. +1
      April 19 2021 13: 48
      essessno, about myself wassat
  7. +4
    April 19 2021 15: 51
    All this is interesting and informative, but it is not clear what prevents pindosam from lowering the iron curtain n2 even without our invasion of Ukraine?
    When did they need a reason and an excuse, if they were impatient?
    Do you know why they won't let it down, even if we take Ukraine?
    Because they will not be supported by China, India, Iran, S. Korea and from the heels of small states such as Cuba, Vietnam or Venezuela there.
    And this is no longer the Iron Curtain
    In addition, the break in relations with Europe will not be a shot in the leg, but in the head.
    The loss of our energy carriers and trade will lead to the fact that Germany will no longer be able to support all this pack of freeloaders and the EU will disintegrate
    So, not everything is as straightforward and tragic as you described.
    PS: Well, with Ukraine, sooner or later, you still have to decide something
    I am afraid that sooner rather than later, judging by the latest events ..
    1. +1
      April 19 2021 18: 46
      From time immemorial, intending to destroy or plunder someone, the West has always been huddled together in a tight heap. For today alone, through the mouth of Macron, the Baltic "lions" and other "civilized" West has already spoken at least the third world. The West has always needed time to rally its ranks. For it’s ssykotno. Today's attitude towards Russia and the attitude in 2015, for example, are two big differences.
      So such a sluggish opposition from Russia, more like a defensive defense, will definitely awaken the appetites of the new Bounaparts ... And in a couple of years it will be much worse ...
      With 200 planes and 15 submarines, it is impossible to defend its independence against the armada, which has gone astray from a sense of its own superiority, even worse than in 1941.
  8. +1
    April 19 2021 16: 41
    "Why is Putin not afraid of the Ukrainian offensive in Donbass

    - everything is simple, because he is in Moscow, why should he be afraid? If he were in Donbass and not afraid then another question.
  9. +5
    April 19 2021 16: 47
    Well, will this target designation last long in the Black Sea in the form of American destroyers ?! Mr. Volkonsky, I'm somehow sure that the anti-ship missile Storm, which is launched from the Tu-22M3, and can be launched in the Black Sea from above its territory, is quite relevant and the American destroyers will not need so many such hits
  10. +2
    April 19 2021 18: 28
    The real "Iron Curtain-2.0." Will descend before her, after which the "Iron Curtain-1.0.", Lowered by the collective West in front of the USSR, will seem to us child's play.

    It will go down anyway, only a little later. Even during our life with you. After all, the US views Russia as an easier target than China. But when the curtain comes down first (inevitable in any case), and then complete submission, a wild confrontation between Russia and China will begin. Exclusively by the will of the SSPstan that enslaved us. Contrary to the will of the population and solely through the fault of those who are afraid of the "Iron Curtain-2.0"

    Then they might regret it, as possible! regretted Putin in 2014 without strangling Bandera in the bud ... But it will be too late.
  11. 0
    April 19 2021 19: 58
    Intelligent, chamber party. Everyone on the plus ...
    fellow
  12. 0
    April 19 2021 21: 25
    Dear Vladimir! Regarding your last paragraph - that the US destroyers will not go to the Black Sea - instead of them, like the British were going to send something floating. For slaughter instead of untouchable Americans.
    It seems to me that anything fits into a meat grinder, as long as the Americans are not there.
    1. 0
      April 19 2021 21: 56
      the Britons have nothing of the kind, there is nothing to send, two light aircraft carriers will not pass the Bosporus according to the Mantreux convention, the state of their fleet is even worse than ours, and until they reach, NATO exercises will be over, the Britons are still supporting Toko with airplanes
  13. 0
    April 20 2021 05: 00
    War is garbage, the main thing manevry.Putin is not afraid of war because why would he need a world in which there is no Russia.
  14. 0
    April 20 2021 09: 26
    Ehhh ..... Oh, how I do not want to war. I have three children, two sons and a daughter (the youngest, favorite). What awaits them from this mess ??? ....
    But on the other hand, when Russia was at war, the country grew in different territories. But in peacetime, something is somehow the other way around ...
  15. 0
    April 20 2021 09: 31
    Well, with Ukraine, everything is clear, their president even has appropriate initials: VAZELEN. It is clear who will use this Vaselen. It's just that it's not clear who and what will be changed ...
    As the saying goes: time will tell.
  16. 0
    April 20 2021 15: 43
    Because he knows that he will not. And if the fear is not the offensive, but complete isolation.
  17. -1
    April 20 2021 21: 28
    Why be afraid of something that shouldn't be? Likewise, the USSR was not afraid of an attack by Finland in 1939, and for this they had to make a play called "The Mainil Incident". Perhaps something similar is already being cooked up.
    But even in the end, you can simply return the RF Armed Forces to the base and declare that the concentration of troops scared Kiev and there will be no war.
  18. 0
    April 20 2021 21: 29
    Why is Putin not afraid ...

    In the event of the forced entry of Russia into hostilities in Ukraine,
    Russia has the opportunity to cut off Ukraine from the Black Sea.
    The provocation of Ukraine in Donbass is a gift to Putin.

    Let's go through the chain of further events.
    With a bang, the "economic curtain" begins to fall.
    As a result, Europe's economy will suffer the most. So is the Russian economy.

    The outcome of the Second World War - Europe collapsed, the USSR suffered, the USA rose
    to unprecedented heights. To rise in modern warfare - USA-Britain
    the same analogous situation is needed.

    Is it great for the USA-Britain? BUT after the collapse of Europe and the impact
    on the Russian economy - the long-awaited World Economic Crisis begins.
    And CHINA wins.
    The US-Britain are calculating how the new Economic Crisis will hit them.

    So the war in Ukraine is a dangerous project. The United States must hurry to deliver
    there are military bases in Ukraine, so that if something happens, it will be more difficult for Putin.

    But NATO's project - "Project Ukraine" - undermines stability in Russia for decades.
    And they won't let Russia eat all of Ukraine.
    The United States will never let any different "Medvedchuk" come to power in Ukraine.
    Does it mean that Russia's military operation in the south of Ukraine, sooner or later, is inevitable?

    Yes, today Putin has nothing to fear.
    But traps have been set (Gazprom - Donbass) and it is impossible to "maneuver" forever.
  19. +2
    April 20 2021 23: 11
    This theater of the absurd has been going on for seven years. Every spring the mentally ill have an aggravation - and they try to use it to the fullest, but every year it becomes more difficult to do it. The shooters have been "wanging" the same thing for seven years. He says it seems beautiful and convincing, but damn it, it turns out some kind of groundhog day. And he himself is a muddy type. So ukrodebily are all going on a "campaign against Moscow" in the spirit of the Middle Ages. Or someone collects them. The feeling that there is some kind of force that wants to unleash a war of the mentally retarded, but not in order to win, but simply to destroy people and in addition to make money on it, does not leave me. This year it may work out, because the coronavirus is hitting the brains without jokes - I, like many, have experienced it myself. For some reason, everyone forgot about Kolomoisky and the forces that he always represented. And these are frostbitten Zionists-Satanists and they have no state borders. Zelensky can neither disobey the United States and Kolomoisky, nor complete their commands, since in the first case, the end will be for him, and in the second, that country that he heads, and then for him too. Although he is stupid, he understands this, so he pulls the cat by the balls and does not know what to do. Before you had to think. I don’t envy such successful ones :)
  20. 0
    April 21 2021 11: 53
    The author is wrong. Yes, Boeing himself will be the first to raise Biden on his horns. Closure of an aircraft design division in Russia. Market closure. Those. they diligently destroyed our aircraft design bureaus. Plants for the production of civil aircraft were ruined.

    Second. China, too, will not give up its sales market to Russia. Switch off SWIFT, an alternative will appear. An alternative that will not be controlled by the West, and therefore an alternative way of existence and not be afraid that the State Department will lay its hands on the deal.

    Omitting the iron, the West finally buries all its hegemonic ambitions. In 10-15 years the world will finally be convinced that no one needs the West.
  21. 0
    April 25 2021 05: 57
    Very messy and torn. In general, some kind of vinigret turned out. What kind of worldwide isolation are we talking about? From the dependent Geyropa, all the time consisting of small and slightly larger Tabaka jackals, huddling in an uncooperative flock? From America, with its Black Lives Mete, 40 genders and other nonsense? So God forbid from close contact with all of them! And in general, what kind of convention is this mantre? The author is more attentive to the details! The devil is in them!
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  22. 0
    6 May 2021 10: 00
    The world was bipolar when the socialist and capitalist systems confronted each other. Author, no need to powder the head of people and wishful thinking. Now capitalist Russia is still such. There can be NO BIPOLAR WORLD.