Russia - USA: the first round is ours. The second begins ...


Indeed, these days a large international policy lost all predictability. It would seem that almost yesterday the presidents of the United States and Russia were talking quite peacefully on the phone, and Joe Biden even tried to appoint Vladimir Putin a "date" somewhere on "neutral territory" to discuss all controversial issues behind the scenes ... And now the head of Bely At home, he is already announcing new anti-Russian sanctions, and in addition, and is introducing an emergency situation in his own country "in connection with Moscow's malicious actions."


And how do you want to understand this ?! It's very simple. In the confrontation between the two world powers, relatively speaking, the first round has been completed and now, without any interruption or gong, the second begins. Moreover - with a petty blow from our opponents ...

Overpower the West? Turns out it's real


Why do I undertake to assert that it was Russia that prevailed at the first stage of the current confrontation? I will try to explain as concretely and substantively as possible. First of all, the escalation in Donbass was initiated by the Ukrainian side. And since Kiev has not been doing anything for a long time without being directed from across the ocean, we can assume that it was a “bullish game” started by Washington. Ideally, after the formidable warnings about the "high price" and similar things sounded from there, Russia, which reacted to the belligerent gestures of Kiev extremely sharply and on a large scale, would have to back down, withdraw its troops to the places of permanent deployment and explain for a long time that "nothing like that. I didn't want to ”, making excuses and apologizing. This did not happen - it was made clear to Ukraine that the next step beyond the line would be its last. The words about "the beginning of the end" sounded not as an emotional threat, but as a cold and therefore even more terrible warning. This is the first thing.

The second point is that Biden called Putin, and not vice versa. This action looks especially piquant in the light of the not-so-old rudeness that the American president allowed against ours. However, when the air really smelled of gunpowder, and Moscow more than clearly indicated its readiness to go to the end of the defense of Donbass (Ukraine), Mr. Biden reluctantly reached for the telephone receiver. Moreover, the American president was also the source of the initiative expressed in the course of the conversation regarding a summit meeting on the territory of a third country, which looks like a call for dialogue and compromise. At the same time, the Kremlin did not at all rush to present this invitation as a kind of "victory" or "breakthrough", but treated it with the utmost restraint, and then began to set conditions altogether ...

And finally, the point that causes particular pride - after the above conversation, the US Navy destroyers Roosevelt and Donald Cook changed their course, before that they were heading for the Black Sea to "give" us some kind of "signal". Not the warships of the Russian Black Sea Fleet and the Caspian Flotilla, currently conducting planned exercises there. Taking into account the unequivocal warning from our Ministry of Foreign Affairs to the United States: “stay away from Crimea”, all this clearly looks like a “back off” maneuver. However, the situation is far from being exhausted by the above points. At the same time, Kiev, the main initiator of the current aggravation, received a fair amount of "cold shower". First of all, we are talking about the statement of German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas, which discouraged the Ukrainian side, quite specifically pointed out that no "threat of war" can become an obstacle to the continuation of the construction of Nord Stream-2. We must pay tribute to the German diplomat - the move he used was simply brilliant: they say, according to Berlin, such a decision is not something that would not “pacify” Russia, but on the contrary, encouraged it to take even more drastic actions. The words of Maas that our country "is not at all interested in escalation in Donbass" sound too bad for Kiev.

Another big slap in the face of the "nezalezhnoy" was a statement made from another European capital - Paris. No sooner had the insensitive Germans strictly pointed out to Kiev that it had no place in NATO, so now the French, through the mouth of the Secretary of State for European Affairs at the country's Foreign Ministry, Clement Bona, clarified that they might not even dream of being admitted to the EU. In the light of Zelensky's upcoming visit to the country, we can say that he is flying over Paris as a well-known object ... The crowning of Ukraine's “humiliation” of Ukraine was the news that the head of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, did not participate in the clownish action called “The Crimean Platform” intends under no guise. Taken together, all this looks like an extremely convincing geopolitical victory for Russia, which, with its firmness, managed to overpower the “collective West” at this stage.

What did you, Biden, back up ?!


It would be foolish and naive to hope to win a truly global battle in one round. Is that a knockout, but, frankly, I don’t even want to think about what could be considered in this capacity in the context we are discussing. As a matter of fact, the United States and Russia might not agree on a new one in the geopolitical "ring" - if the idea of ​​a meeting of their leaders, proposed by Washington, had been implemented. However, taking into account the latest actions of the local administration, the likelihood of such an event has not only dropped sharply, but, one might say, tends to absolute zero. Recall that very soon after the telephone conversation between Vladimir Putin and Joe Biden, the Kremlin announced clear conditions for the continuation of the dialogue. First, the United States must appease its Kiev puppets, who have recently dispersed in earnest in their belligerent rage.

Provocations on the line of contact were supposed to stop, as has happened more than once after a call from Washington - instantly and completely. Nothing of the kind is observed today. According to information coming from the republics, shelling from the Ukrainian Armed Forces continues. Moreover, the shells began to explode on the territory of Donetsk, which had not happened for a very long time. However, this is no longer of decisive importance - after all, the second conditions of Moscow, with which they intend to "improve the attitude", were fulfilled by the United States literally exactly "the other way round." It was voiced to the American ambassador to our country, John Sullivan, by the aide to the President of Russia, Pyotr Ushakov, and was that if the "peace-loving" talks are followed by more sanctions, Moscow, which categorically does not accept such double-dealing, will react to them "in the most decisive way." ... And so, as a matter of fact, it happened - Joe Biden signed a decree on April 15 introducing new restrictions, quite large-scale and serious.

How does this correlate with the intention to "normalize the state of US-Russian relations" - God knows. From the point of view of normal human logic, it does not correlate in any way. However, some people are already voicing versions like the one that the new sanctions package is a "warning to Putin" before the meeting, so that he "was more compliant" at it. Well, if this is so, then it will only remain to admit the correctness of those who have been repeating for a long time about the very serious problems of old Joe with the perception of the reality around him. At least due to the fact that such things have not passed to the Kremlin for a long time, which is substantively proved to the whole world over and over again. And the meeting in such situations, most likely, simply will not take place. New sanctions, albeit they sound quite menacing - "against the sovereign debt of Russia", in fact, no serious damage to our the economy unable to apply.

Let's not forget, we are talking about "some" restrictions on "certain transactions with government bonds", concerning "certain categories of foreign investors" and exclusively on the primary market. Yes, a priori nothing good. But in all seriousness, only Anders Aslund, who has long and firmly “moved by reason” on “black” predictions about Russia, as terrifying as unrealizable, can broadcast about the “long-term negative consequences” of these actions. There is much more confidence, for example, in the words of the deputy head of the Russian Ministry of Finance Sergei Aleksashenko, who reminded the domestic “all-propalts”, who are ready to break into panic, that since 2000, the share of non-residents in the growth of Russian federal loan bonds is “as much” 7%. Indeed, the poppy has not given birth for seven years ... Of course, neither hunger, nor devastation, nor "landslide inflation", nor other economic shocks will carry these restrictions to our country - all sane experts, both domestic and foreign.

Another question is what to do with the overseas "partners" who have once again "lost their shores". Summoned "on the carpet" to the Russian Foreign Ministry, US Ambassador Sullivan, forced to explain the actions of his country, proudly proclaimed that the American side firmly intends to "impose on the Russian government the costs for its actions that harm the United States, its allies and values." In response, he heard fervent assurances that the previously promised "decisive response" would follow in the very near future. Yes, it's time for us to impose something on Washington - yes, it's harder ... The funny thing is that speaking on the very day when he pushed the decision, in fact, crossing out the barely outlined prospect of normalizing relations, Joe Biden, like nothing never happened to continue talking about the "summer summit in Europe" with Vladimir Vladimirovich, and then ... about the readiness "to take further measures if Moscow continues in the same spirit." Truly, nothing comes to mind here, except for the old joke about the delights of sclerosis, in which they forget about the presence of insanity! On the other hand, perhaps the head of the White House is not as bad as he is trying to seem - after all, in his speech he did not fail to mention that "he could have gone further", but so far he did not begin to do so in order "not to exert undue pressure on Russia." ...

In short, we have before us a typical example of the continuation of the same American policy, in which the only arguments are blackmail, threats and hypocritical promises to “get along,” which no one is going to carry out. Nothing has changed and the next round has begun. How many of them are still ahead is still impossible to guess.
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  1. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) April 16 2021 11: 09
    +3
    Look what is being done, they don’t take them to NATO, they don’t let them into the EU. Now what to change the constitution? EU to rewrite the Ottoman Empire?
    1. George W. Bush - medium (George Bush - average) April 16 2021 12: 24
      +1
      16.04.2021/XNUMX/XNUMX - Lithuania changed its mind to ask NATO to accept Ukraine
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) April 16 2021 18: 21
        +3
        16.04.2021/XNUMX/XNUMX - Lithuania changed its mind to ask NATO to accept Ukraine

        What's the point? The Germans said no. We'll have to shut up or the subsidies will be cut off.
  2. DimerVladimer Offline DimerVladimer
    DimerVladimer (Dmitry Vladimirovich) April 16 2021 12: 12
    -10%
    And what kind of news feed?
    The author proposes to quietly rejoice in the personal confrontation of two senile people with "nuclear clubs"?
    1. Pivander Offline Pivander
      Pivander (Alex) April 16 2021 12: 17
      0
      Why did you insult two US citizens Trump and Bidon so much?
  3. George W. Bush - medium (George Bush - average) April 16 2021 12: 21
    +2
    It's good that Russia doesn't have any complexes.
    Except missile. tongue
  4. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) April 16 2021 13: 37
    +2
    The era of late Rome. Already there are barbarians' cleanses across the southern borders. Former slaves are already revolting in "Rome" itself. They are already afraid to release their empire, excuse me, the president to communicate with other rulers, so that he does not say too much, and for this they simultaneously impose sanctions on neighbors and other peoples in the hope of sowing fear, as they once did.
    1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 16 2021 16: 23
      -4
      So no one answered. Dark Ages Millennium Coming? Following the fall of Rome?
      1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
        Bulanov (Vladimir) April 16 2021 16: 49
        +3
        Well, why, there was a flourishing of Byzantium and the East.
        1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
          Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 16 2021 17: 35
          -4
          As far as I remember, Byzantium considered itself the Roman Empire. Actually it is a fragment of Rome. And what, the East is compared in development with Rome?
          1. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) April 16 2021 18: 18
            +2
            As far as I remember, Byzantium considered itself the Roman Empire. Actually it is a fragment of Rome. And what, the East is compared in development with Rome?

            The Byzantines considered themselves Romei, then there was the Holy Roman Empire, is it really a matter of the name?
            What analogies with Rome have you noticed in Northern Honduras? Lead plumbing pipes? What is this development? In the country, one in five reads and writes with difficulty. People live in tents and cardboard boxes. But capitalization fellow
            1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
              Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 16 2021 18: 56
              -3
              Quote: 123
              What analogies with Rome have you noticed in Northern Honduras? Lead plumbing pipes? What is this development? In the country, one in five reads and writes with difficulty. People live in tents and cardboard boxes. But capitalization

              Are you stupid? This is dear Bulanov I saw analogies. I just asked, and then he spreads his analogy. Previously, you only saw Agoras all around, and now also illiterate Hondurans? Why are you so excited about this beloved Northern Honduras? And do not cheat any yellow press.
              1. 123 Offline 123
                123 (123) April 16 2021 20: 12
                +3
                Are you stupid? This respected Bulanov saw an analogy. I just asked, and then he spreads his analogy.

                What are you, stupid is you yes I’m asking you something else, do you think Northern Honduras is the pinnacle of development? You are waiting for the dark ages.

                You only saw Agoras all around, and now also illiterate Hondurans?

                All that does not fit into your matrix deny, they say there is no this, you just think lol
                The Agora is firmly embedded in your skull, and meanwhile the lawsuit of Yeltsin Center against the management company Center and the company itself in the Agora Center. Something in the gadyushnik is completely confused with money. The Center stood up to defend its own laughing
                Does the tabloid press not suit you? This is certainly not your Fontanka and Echo of Moscow lol
                It's not about publishing, but about information that can and should be verified. That link is just the first one that comes across. Want others?
                https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4739561

                Only "respectable" publications write so delicately that, after reading it, one gets the impression that the Yeltsin Center is filing a lawsuit, they do not particularly spread about claims against him, so modest mention at the end of the article.
                https://ura.news/news/1052476309

                And the tabloid press cuts the truth-womb with proletarian directness

                We won a court case against the Boris Yeltsin Foundation. We collected from them about 2,5 million rubles - this amount together with interest. The Yeltsin Foundation tried to drag out the process: they filed a counterclaim and asked to postpone the hearing, but the court did not postpone the hearing and made a decision in our favor.

                https://ura.news/news/1052476309

                As for illiteracy, 43 million of the adult population, or 21%, are either not literate at all, or hardly know how to write and read something. As for children, 18% of teachers in public schools are forced to work in several jobs to survive, hence the low level of academic performance.
                https://worldliteracyfoundation.org/adult-literacy-america/

                And their prospects are not bright, as they say your house is a prison. With a similar level of literacy, 75% of prisoners, which is probably why in the United States there are 2 times more prisoners per 100 thousand of the population than in "authoritarian and totalitarian" Russia.
                Maybe you are dreaming of shining hailstones on the hill laughing
                1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                  Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 17 2021 16: 00
                  0
                  Quote: 123
                  What are you, stupid you are I am asking you about something else, do you consider Northern Honduras to be the pinnacle of development? You are waiting for the dark ages.



                  See, even our president thinks you are stupid, so don't be shy.

                  Quote: 123
                  All that does not fit into your matrix deny, they say there is no this, you just think
                  The Agora is firmly embedded in your skull, and meanwhile the lawsuit of Yeltsin Center against the management company Center and the company itself in the Agora Center. Something in the gadyushnik is completely confused with money. The Center stood up to defend its own
                  Does the tabloid press not suit you? This is certainly not your Fontanka and Echo of Moscow
                  It's not about publishing, but about information that can and should be verified. That link is just the first one that comes across. Want others?
                  https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4739561

                  Only "respectable" publications write so delicately that, after reading it, one gets the impression that the Yeltsin Center is filing a lawsuit, they do not particularly spread about claims against him, so modest mention at the end of the article.
                  https://ura.news/news/1052476309

                  And the tabloid press cuts the truth-womb with proletarian directness

                  We won a court case against the Boris Yeltsin Foundation. We collected from them about 2,5 million rubles - this amount together with interest. The Yeltsin Foundation tried to drag out the process: they filed a counterclaim and asked to postpone the hearing, but the court did not postpone the hearing and made a decision in our favor.

                  https://ura.news/news/1052476309

                  Yeah, the Agora stuck in my head, and you dashed off a whole article about the Agora. And he proposes to check ALL organizations in the country, in the name of which there is the word "Agora". And that, in reality, the Yeltsin Center filed a lawsuit against the Agora Center, although it is its sole owner? Some kind of paranoia. Once again, the Yeltsin Center was created by the current president, it is under the control of his closest associates, and your dreams of closing it down and razing it to the ground will remain dreams, at least as long as Vladimir Vladimirovich is in power. You cannot understand this for the reasons discussed above.

                  Quote: 123
                  As for illiteracy, 43 million of the adult population, or 21%, are either not literate at all, or hardly know how to write and read something. As for children, 18% of teachers in public schools are forced to work in several jobs to survive, hence the low level of academic performance.
                  https://worldliteracyfoundation.org/adult-literacy-america/

                  I don't really care, but in the US there is universal compulsory schooling, and according to the UN, 99% of the population is literate. As for the problems of American teachers, do you think they look at Russian teachers with envy?
                  You'd better be so worried about Russia.
                  http://hdr.undp.org/en/content/education-index

                  Quote: 123
                  Maybe you are dreaming of shining hailstones on the hill

                  Have I ever said in my life that the USA is hail on a hill for me? This is your fad about America.
                  1. 123 Offline 123
                    123 (123) April 17 2021 17: 07
                    0
                    See, even our president thinks you are stupid, so don't be shy.

                    Are you already talking to the TV? lol I have to upset you, this argument and the other side works. This applies to you no less.

                    As for Northern Honduras, it may jar you, but I will probably continue to call the United States that way, in my opinion it is very suitable. If anything, one city known to you is called Northern Palmyra and it does not bother anyone.

                    Yeah, the Agora stuck in my head, and you dashed off a whole article about the Agora. And he proposes to check ALL organizations in the country, in the name of which there is the word "Agora".

                    You are really stupid and I don’t call myself names, this is a statement of fact, because a whole article on the Agora is obtained solely because of your above-described property of the mind.

                    And that, in reality, the Yeltsin Center filed a lawsuit against the Agora Center, although it is its sole owner? Some kind of paranoia.

                    It is really difficult for me to talk to you, you are really stupid, there are links to articles above, figure out on your own who and to whom filed a lawsuit. I do not intend to write the second volume of descriptions of the situation. You did not study in the USA for an hour? If you cannot comprehend the 3-paragraph note yourself, ask the neighbors for help.

                    Once again, the Yeltsin Center was created by the current president, it is under the control of his closest associates, and your dreams of closing it down and razing it to the ground will remain dreams, at least as long as Vladimir Vladimirovich is in power. You cannot understand this for the reasons discussed above.

                    Again your fantasies? I do not require anything to compare with the earth. Why demolish buildings? But I consider it necessary to disperse the liberda that has settled there, which is too free to dispose of the money allocated by the state.
                    You can, of course, consider them the closest associates and untouchables, but what we have in reality we will soon see. A court appeal is just around the corner. The money will have to be returned. And I guess this is just the beginning. One "revolutionary" also considered himself an immortal demigod, but now he is sewing a coward. By the way, they say "FBK" the prosecutor's office demands to recognize an extremist organization, have you heard? What a sadness crying , For you laughing

                    I don't really care, but in the US there is universal compulsory schooling, and according to the UN, 99% of the population is literate. As for the problems of American teachers, do you think they look at Russian teachers with envy?
                    You'd better be so worried about Russia.

                    Why are you showing me the 2013 plaques? Why not 1913?
                    The UN is full of strange people far from reality, some people there still consider Crimea to be Ukrainian.
                    So the data isn't convincing for you? Do you just deny the inconvenient fact? Or are these strange people involved in the eradication of illiteracy lying?
                    I think American teachers do not look with envy anywhere, they have no time. It also says that they are forced to work on several jobs to survive.
                    For what I am worried, I will somehow solve the bases of you.

                    Have I ever said in my life that the USA is hail on a hill for me? This is your fad about America.

                    About the fad, who would say winked
                    1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 18 2021 01: 48
                      -3
                      Quote: 123
                      Are you already talking to the TV? I have to upset you, this argument and the other side works. This applies to you no less.

                      I? Why do you think so? Are you delusional again? This only works with dumb ones. And of us only you are stupid.

                      Quote: 123
                      As for Northern Honduras, it may jar you, but I will probably continue to call the United States that way, in my opinion it is very suitable. If anything, one city known to you is called Northern Palmyra and it does not bother anyone.

                      Eh, the wrong country was named Honduras. Yes, even the Upper Volta with missiles, I don't care.

                      Quote: 123
                      You are really stupid and I don’t call myself names, this is a statement of fact, because a whole article on the Agora is obtained solely because of your above-described property of the mind.

                      Only a stupid person could decide that I was interested in the topic of Agora Center LLC and its financial relationships and write a whole article about this. Moreover, he is fixated on the word agora due to the fact that once there was a human rights organization called Agora and now he sees a foreign agent in any company with the name Agora.

                      Quote: 123
                      It is really difficult for me to talk to you, you are really stupid, there are links to articles above, figure out on your own who and to whom filed a lawsuit. I do not intend to write the second volume of descriptions of the situation. You did not study in the USA for an hour? If you cannot comprehend the 3-paragraph note yourself, ask the neighbors for help.

                      I have not read it, but I condemn. This topic worries you, not me.

                      Quote: 123
                      Again your fantasies? I do not require anything to compare with the earth. Why demolish buildings? But I consider it necessary to disperse the liberda that has settled there, which is too free to dispose of the money allocated by the state.
                      You can, of course, consider them the closest companions-in-arms and untouchables, but what we have in reality we will soon see. A court appeal is just around the corner. The money will have to be returned. And I guess this is just the beginning. One "revolutionary" also considered himself an immortal demigod, but now he is sewing a coward. By the way, they say "FBK" the prosecutor's office demands to recognize an extremist organization, have you heard? What a sadness for you

                      People and horses got mixed up. Once again for the dumb. The Yeltsin Center will exist, at least as long as Putin is in power. Nobody asks your opinion about this. You dreamed of being a dumb slave whose opinion the authorities do not care, so be them. What do you endure my brain with this center. Have you written at least one letter to the presidential administration? Member of the Board of Trustees Shoigu? Why are you writing all this to me.

                      Quote: 123
                      Why are you showing me the 2013 plaques? Why not 1913?
                      The UN is full of strange people far from reality, some people there still consider Crimea to be Ukrainian.
                      So the data isn't convincing for you? Do you just deny the inconvenient fact? Or are these strange people involved in the eradication of illiteracy lying?
                      I think American teachers do not look with envy anywhere, they have no time. It also says that they are forced to work on several jobs to survive.
                      For what I am worried, I will somehow solve the bases of you.

                      If a person is not stupid, then on this site he can find data for 2020. So for you, the UN data is not convincing? Do you just deny the inconvenient fact?
                      I noticed long ago that you are more concerned with problems outside our homeland than local ones. Are you even from Russia?

                      Quote: 123
                      About the fad, who would say

                      I would say. You cannot do without a single commentary on America.
                      1. isofat Offline isofat
                        isofat (isofat) April 18 2021 02: 37
                        -1
                        Oleg Ramboverthe dumber a person is, the faster he condescends to insults.

                        There are other signs that lead to a disappointing conclusion. laughing
                      2. 123 Offline 123
                        123 (123) April 18 2021 02: 51
                        +2
                        I? Why do you think so? Are you delusional again? This only works with dumb ones. And of us only you are stupid.



                        Eh, the wrong country was named Honduras. Yes, even the Upper Volta with missiles, I don't care.

                        I don't like it, blame it on fellow the air will be cleaneryes

                        Only a stupid person could decide that I was interested in the topic of Agora Center LLC and its financial relationships and write a whole article about this. Moreover, he is fixated on the word agora due to the fact that once there was a human rights organization called Agora and now he sees a foreign agent in any company with the name Agora.

                        And nevertheless, you constantly talk about it and wrote an article no less. You are dumb yes

                        I have not read it, but I condemn. This topic worries you, not me.

                        And why so abruptly the interest has disappeared? There is nothing to object, even to the tabloid press it is impossible to cling, we pretend that we do not read and are not interested at all, then we roll aside to flow around? lol

                        People and horses got mixed up. Once again for the dumb.

                        Are you talking to yourself? smile

                        The Yeltsin Center will exist, at least as long as Putin is in power. Nobody asks your opinion about this. You dreamed of being a dumb slave whose opinion the authorities do not care, so be them. What do you endure my brain with this center. Have you written at least one letter to the presidential administration? Member of the Board of Trustees Shoigu? Why are you writing all this to me.

                        And I urge to demolish it? how much can I say, the building will come in handy yes
                        All the more so with your opinion. You dreamed of being a sycophant and a slug licking the master's boots, but what to do is not a dream come true, the hegemon is not the same now. Go cry on the sidelines crying Can I stand your brain? belay This is not possible due to the absence thereof. Moreover, with the Agora, this is your initiative. Am I to blame that you still cannot understand anything and are stupid about the same thing? sad Why am I going to write letters to someone? The court will sort it out. We have a legal state.

                        If a person is not stupid, then on this site he can find data for 2020.

                        And yet you found in 2013 laughing Apparently if it doesn't apply to you? winked

                        So for you, the UN data is not convincing? Do you just deny the inconvenient fact?

                        No not convincing No. You have not provided them. What was there at the UN 7 years ago was not considered interesting to me. Moreover, you ignore the information provided by me. The link indicates illiterate or semi-literate. If it is enough for the UN that a person reads the inscription on the wall and counts to 100 and he is considered literate, this is their problem. But such a country is not drawn to the light of science and education.

                        I noticed long ago that you are more concerned with problems outside our homeland than local ones. Are you even from Russia?

                        This is an old tradition of liberda, constantly delving into local problems, whining about the Upper Volta, but at the same time praising the West. These tricks of yours do not work for me. I will poke you into the problems there, because there are not less of them, and often more. And I spit on your gnashing of teeth. I promise to share the news of Northern Honduras on a regular basis yes

                        I would say. You cannot do without a single commentary on America.

                        How interesting, what do you remember the article about? It is just about the complex relationship between the two countries. Does it upset you? Would you like to delve into Russian problems and sigh dreamily towards Northern Honduras? smile
                        Do this individually at home.
                      3. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 18 2021 14: 59
                        -3
                        Quote: 123
                        I do not like it, throw it on the air will be cleaner

                        Once again, I don't care. If you tell me what to do, you know where to go.

                        Quote: 123
                        And why so abruptly the interest has disappeared? There is nothing to object, even to the tabloid press it is impossible to cling, we pretend that we do not read and are not interested at all, then we roll aside to flow around?

                        So I'm kidding you. You get so funny when I write the word Agora. Themselves said that I got you and the Agora, and I continue to get you. Don't you get it. For some reason I dashed off the article. It's funny.

                        Quote: 123
                        And I urge to demolish it? how much can I say, the building will come in handy
                        All the more so with your opinion.

                        Once again, the Yeltsin Center organization (not the building) will exist as long as Vladimir Vladimirovich is in power. This is his brainchild, and he doesn't care about the opinions of anybody. Even if the Yeltsin Center loses the trial to him, either the budget or the presidential administration (which is also from the budget) will throw money and that's it. That is, this whole banquet will be at your (and mine) expense. And even your beloved Agora will not be closed.

                        Quote: 123
                        And nevertheless, you found for the 2013th. Apparently if it does not apply to you?

                        I found for 2020, you are not.

                        Quote: 123
                        No, not convincing. You did not provide them. What was there at the UN 7 years ago was not considered interesting to me. Moreover, you ignore the information provided by me. The link indicates illiterate or semi-literate. If it is enough for the UN that a person reads the inscription on the wall and counts to 100 and he is considered literate, this is their problem. But such a country is not drawn to the light of science and education.

                        And according to your link, not even data, but some kind of complaint. I personally have no idea a lot or a little. Apparently you too. Give the same figures for other countries with data obtained using a similar method. In the meantime, I watch in the news how NASA is launching a helicopter on Mars, and Roscosmos, in response, on the Internet created by the Americans, on the Facebook created in America, posts "Yankee go hoom" pictures, created again in the American Photoshop program.

                        Quote: 123
                        This is an old tradition of liberda, constantly delving into local problems, whining about the Upper Volta, but at the same time praising the West. These tricks of yours do not work for me. I will poke you into the problems there, because there are not less of them, and often more. And I spit on your gnashing of teeth. I promise to share the news of Northern Honduras on a regular basis

                        And this is an old tradition of cotton wool to the question why our streets are dirty to answer "and in America blacks are lynched."
                        What violent fantasies, what rattle? Once again, this is for YOU USA is the navel of the earth, not for me. If you are interested in my city on the hill, then the closest to it are Finland (I was in it) and probably Scandinavia (but I was not there).

                        Quote: 123
                        How interesting, what do you remember the article about? It is just about the complex relationship between the two countries. Does it upset you? Would you like to delve into Russian problems and sigh dreamily towards Northern Honduras?
                        Do this individually at home.

                        The article is nonsense, as far as I remember.
                        You again tell me what to do, so you know where to go.
                        And okstyte, we are here with you discussing your fantasies that the United States is about to die and there was no word about the Russian Federation.
                        PS I tried to go down to your level, I didn't like it. Dialogue like "you are stupid", "you are not stupid", "who how to call names is called" is not for me. Kindergarten of some kind.
                        Here in some century I have to agree with the respected isofat

                        Quote: isofat
                        the dumber a person is, the faster he condescends to insults.

                        It is a pity that for some reason he does not apply this wise idea to himself.
                        In short, if you continue to switch to rudeness, then, I agree with the dear isofat, You are not a smart person. Why should I communicate with not smart.
                      4. isofat Offline isofat
                        isofat (isofat) April 18 2021 16: 27
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                        Quote: Oleg Rambover
                        It is a pity that for some reason he does not apply this wise idea to himself.

                        Oleg Rambover, the answer is obvious why.

                        I don’t give out immediate insults, I’m not stupid at all.

                        You do not see why this wise thought is not applicable to me - for reasons previously clarified. Everything is clear with you.

                        If you receive insults, then, as a rule, later and not immediately. And after you deserve them yourself. yes
                      5. 123 Offline 123
                        123 (123) April 18 2021 17: 04
                        +1
                        Once again, I don't care. If you tell me what to do, you know where to go.

                        It is not possible just physically, the place is occupied by you. Bolivar of two will not stand laughing

                        So I'm kidding you. You get so funny when I write the word Agora. Themselves said that I got you and the Agora, and I continue to get you. Don't you get it. For some reason I dashed off the article. It's funny.

                        Strange humor, salivating and writing messages in several volumes as soon as Northern Honduras or liberda settled in the Agora is mentioned smile
                        You continue not to bother me, but demonstrate your own stupidity. I promise not to forget this topic in the future, stock up on a valid one.

                        I found for 2020, you are not.

                        I'm very happy for you. Print and hang on the wall. I'm not going to seek confirmation of your words.

                        And according to your link, not even data, but some kind of complaint. I personally have no idea whether it is a lot or a little. Apparently you too.

                        You shouldn't judge people by themselves. If you do not know a lot or a little, if every 5 is not literate or reads with difficulty, this only characterizes your mental abilities.

                        Give the same figures for other countries with data obtained using a similar method.

                        With what fright? You are Hamlo, my friend, do not cite the sources themselves, they say look for yourself and still have the audacity to demand something? Typical liberda laughing Take it yourself and look for it, Google will help you. If you think that their education is better than ours, let us research that every fourth of us is not literate. Do you yourself believe in it?

                        In the meantime, I watch in the news how NASA is launching a helicopter on Mars, and Roscosmos, in response, on the Internet created by the Americans, on the Facebook created in America, posts "Yankee go hoom" pictures, created again in the American Photoshop program.

                        Are you already bored with the views of Afronegroes galloping in Portland and burning shops?
                        Facebook, Google, are you all sitting in the virtual world looking at pictures? There is a problem, I closed my laptop and the fairy tale ended. And I will go and read Biden's lamentations, to bring the country to a state of emergency in such a short time, it must be able to laughing

                        And this is an old tradition of cotton wool to the question why our streets are dirty to answer "and in America blacks are lynched."

                        Cotton wool? Are you a banderglog or what? I'll tell you a secret, the streets are dirty everywhere, the same liberda crap on them decently, including in the USA. It happens. This is the real world and not a picture on Facebook. By the way, in the USA nowadays it is more likely that blacks lynch.

                        What violent fantasies, what rattle? Once again, this is for YOU USA the navel of the earth, not for me.

                        Is that why you get hysterical at the mention of Northern Honduras?

                        If you are interested in my city on the hill, then the closest to it are Finland (I was in it) and probably Scandinavia (but I was not there).

                        So we would go to the city of your dreams, we will not be there. Why are you starting to spit on the offer? A small country can be licked to a shine, large ones are busy with others. Do you want to show France? Not to mention Russia or the United States.

                        The article is nonsense, as far as I remember.

                        Don't remember, but surely nonsense? Yeah. It is difficult to reproach you with politeness.

                        You again tell me what to do, so you know where to go.
                        And okstyte, we are here with you discussing your fantasies that the United States is about to die and there was no word about the Russian Federation.

                        The topic of hikes and directions was discussed above, if you have forgotten too, see the first paragraph.
                        Isn't it your fantasies about the FSE's "prosperous Northern Honduras and Raska"?

                        PS I tried to go down to your level, I didn't like it. Dialogue like "you are stupid", "you are not stupid", "who how to call names is called" is not for me. Kindergarten of some kind.

                        And that's why you dived lower, to your native level? As far as I understand, you have problems with memory, read about kindergarten in your comments. You are the third day in it. smile

                        the dumber a person is, the faster he condescends to insults.

                        It is a pity that for some reason he does not apply this wise idea to himself.
                        In short, if you continue to switch to rudeness, then, I agree with the respected isofat, you are not a smart person. Why should I communicate with not smart.

                        Dear isofat is absolutely right about you. yes
                        I'll tell you more, you look in the mirror more often, judging by the signs your forelock grows. This is a typical behavior of katryulek, to make shit, to get nasty and then be offended, they say, and we are what they blame our opponent for. It all started in this commentary of a cattle-like boor. Do you know a random one? sad

                        Are you stupid? ((Oleg Rambover) April 16, 2021 18:56)
  5. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) April 16 2021 18: 04
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    So no one answered. Dark Ages Millennium Coming? Following the fall of Rome?

    None of the dark, because these contenders for the title of Rome do not carry anything light.
  • Forrest Gump Offline Forrest Gump
    Forrest Gump (Forrest Gump) April 16 2021 15: 16
    -3
    You fell from the moon. What the hell is round 1, Ukraine has long ago not only dropped out of Russia's sphere of influence, the war is already on the doorstep, but for you everything is just beginning, and even with some hypothetical victory ... Insanity grows stronger
  • gorenina91 Offline gorenina91
    gorenina91 (Irina) April 16 2021 15: 59
    -7
    Russia - USA: the first round is ours. The second begins.

    - Personally, I believe that if the knockout is already in the first round; then what kind of second round can we talk about ...
    - Public personal insult to the whole wide world ... - After that, the call of the impudent person; and even with an attempt to impose a meeting and discussion ... - And also the nomination of new sanctions to the representative of the offended side ...
    - This is the absolute run over of one subject to the subject of another ...
    - If only this would happen to the main Chinese Xi ... - Yes, then Biden would be immediately ... - under incessant applause ... - their own American public would immediately be sent to a madhouse ... - and they would not be impeached wait ...
    - And what is going on with Russia ???
    1. Kapany3 Offline Kapany3
      Kapany3 April 16 2021 22: 55
      +2
      It is important that no one cares about your opinion, which is good.
    2. Fss Offline Fss
      Fss (Fss) April 16 2021 23: 45
      +1
      And what is happening with Russia ... the time is coming to collect the stones already. They were scattered further. Instead of developing your country like China, at least.
  • shiva Offline shiva
    shiva (Ivan) April 16 2021 23: 01
    +2
    It’s funny for me to read the news that with one half of his talking head, Biden stands for the predictable behavior of Russia, and the other shows absolutely unpredictable behavior of himself and his administration - in the State Department, a split personality has long been formed, multiplied by a paranoid desire for power over everything. , and even a persecution mania from fear of us and the rapidly growing China.
    It turns out beautifully - are we trying to speak with the patients of the madhouse in the intelligible language of diplomacy?
    Lavrov in this situation has already forgotten about "stupid people, fuck" and is already starting to deal with the functions of the central bank, negotiating with everyone with whom it is possible to settle without a dollar ...
    Because he already understood - there are no prospects to come to an agreement with "partners" ... To come to an agreement with Biden's dog, which he walked and almost broke down when she pulled him - and then there are more chances. Europe is a sump of the political talking shop, they will die faster than they make a decision on vaccinations. Ukraine is even ready to blackmail Geyrop with a nuclear bomb so that she will only be allowed to join its structure, but such scumbags are definitely not expected there ...