"The time will come, and we will return it": after the victory in Karabakh, Baku laid eyes on Yerevan


Almost six months have passed since the fighting in Nagorno-Karabakh died down, but the sides of the confrontation do not get tired of reminding themselves and declare their territorial claims. Thus, Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev expressed the opinion that Zangezur (Syunik region in Armenia) and Irevan (Yerevan) are the original Azerbaijani regions.


The leader of Azerbaijan suggests remembering that in 1920 Zangezur was donated to Armenia, and now the time has come to return it. The situation is similar with Irevan, where many buildings were destroyed that reminded descendants of the Azerbaijani past of the Armenian capital.

I made a reservation, we will return there. I didn’t say that we would return there in tanks. Said we'd be back. This means why not. If we return to the Zangezur corridor, if we use this path, why don't we return to Iravan? The time will come, we will

- Aliyev said.

Thus, after the victory in the NKR, Baku laid eyes on the Syunik region and Yerevan - the Azerbaijani president says that his country will regain these territories, but this will not necessarily be done by military means. At the same time, he criticized Russia's desire to help in the rearmament of the Armenian army, stressing the failure of any attempts by Yerevan to return the lands lost during the war in Karabakh.

Ilham Aliyev also accused Armenia of a negative attitude towards the Turkic peoples and called on the authorities of this country to abandon thoughts of military revenge. In the opinion of Armenian President Robert Kocharian, the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh is still far from over.
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  1. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) April 14 2021 11: 41
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    The leader of Azerbaijan suggests remembering that in 1920 Zangezur was donated to Armenia, and now the time has come to return it.

    An interesting train of thought. In my opinion, at that time, a lot of things generous communists distributed the land collected by the cursed kings, and in 1991 the same people generally staged an auction of unheard-of generosity. Take as much sovereignty as you want fellow
    To quote the damned Wikipedia:

    In 1803-1805, the Karabakh and Sheki khanates were peacefully annexed to Russia. In 1803, the Russian general Tsitsianov captured the Ganja Khanate (from 1804 - Elizavetpol). During the Russian-Iranian war of 1804-1813, Russia first seizes the Cuban and Baku Khanates (1806), and then - Talysh (1809). The Gulistan peace treaty, concluded on October 24 (November 5), 1813 between Russia and Persia, legally enshrines this provision. Persia renounces its claims to Karabakh, Ganja, Shirvan, Sheki, Baku, Derbent, Cuban and Talysh Khanates, as well as to Eastern Georgia and Dagestan. According to the Gulistan Treaty of 1813, all southern khanates remain under the rule of the Persian Shah. At the end of the Russian-Persian war of 1826-1828, according to the Turkmanchay peace treaty, the Erivan and Nakhichevan khanates also ceded to Russia., Ordubad district and other territories. Thus, the final division of the northern territories of Persia between Persia and Russia with the border along the Araks River takes place.

    So what about the ancestral lands? Isn't it time to return the land soaked with the blood of a Russian soldier? The Erivan and Nakhichevan khanates were recaptured from the Persians. Baku, by the way, too, but a year later. Aliyev still wants to talk about this topic?
  2. kapitan92 Offline kapitan92
    kapitan92 (Vyacheslav) April 14 2021 11: 52
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    Zangezur (Syunik region in Armenia) and Irevan (Yerevan) are the primordial Azerbaijani regions.

    Historically Zangezur was the southern part of the ancient Armenian province of Syunik.
    Inscriptions of the king of Great Armenia Artashes I (189-160 BC) in the Aramaic language were found on the territory of Zangezur. At the beginning of the IV century, Syunik, along with other provinces of Armenia, was converted to Christianity. Of the twelve gavars (districts) of Syunik, there were seven within Zangezur (Chaguk, Agakhechk, Gaband, Bagk or Balk, Dzork, Arevik and Kusakan.). At the beginning of the 428th century, the Armenian scientist and educator Mesrop Mashtots conducted preaching and educational activities here. From XNUMX to the beginning of the XNUMXth century, it was part of the Armenian province of Persia. In the middle of the XNUMXth century, Zangezur, like all of Armenia, was captured by the Arabs.
    At the end of the XNUMXth century, Zangezur, as a part of Syunik, became part of the centralized Armenian kingdom], later - the Syunik kingdom.
    (A small excursion into history. Vicki)


    Mammads need a "corridor" to Nakhichevan, which explains Aliyev's rhetoric.
    But, this is the territory of Armenia, and Armenia is a member of the CSTO, we draw conclusions who is the puppeteer in this case.
    1. Dukhskrepny Offline Dukhskrepny
      Dukhskrepny (Vasya) April 15 2021 12: 10
      0
      Quote: kapitan92
      Zangezur (Syunik region in Armenia) and Irevan (Yerevan) are the primordial Azerbaijani regions.

      Historically Zangezur was the southern part of the ancient Armenian province of Syunik.
      Inscriptions of the king of Great Armenia Artashes I (189-160 BC) in the Aramaic language were found on the territory of Zangezur. At the beginning of the IV century, Syunik, along with other provinces of Armenia, was converted to Christianity. Of the twelve gavars (districts) of Syunik, there were seven within Zangezur (Chaguk, Agakhechk, Gaband, Bagk or Balk, Dzork, Arevik and Kusakan.). At the beginning of the 428th century, the Armenian scientist and educator Mesrop Mashtots conducted preaching and educational activities here. From XNUMX to the beginning of the XNUMXth century, it was part of the Armenian province of Persia. In the middle of the XNUMXth century, Zangezur, like all of Armenia, was captured by the Arabs.
      At the end of the XNUMXth century, Zangezur, as a part of Syunik, became part of the centralized Armenian kingdom], later - the Syunik kingdom.
      (A small excursion into history. Vicki)


      Mammads need a "corridor" to Nakhichevan, which explains Aliyev's rhetoric.
      But, this is the territory of Armenia, and Armenia is a member of the CSTO, we draw conclusions who is the puppeteer in this case.

      In 1971 Nina. Garsoyan's article "Armenia in the IV century" (On the issue of clarifying the terms "Armenia" and "Loyalty") appeared in "Izvestia of the Academy of Sciences of Armenia". Literally the next day after its release, it was anathematized, withdrawn from the press and burned (Garsoyan N.G. Armenia in the IV century. (On the issue of clarifying the terms "Armenia" and "loyalty" .- VON AN Arm.SSR, 1971, No. 3).
      N. Garsoyan's arguments dealt a merciless blow to the Armenian "ancient chronicles", which are usually referred to by Armenian history writers. American historian, analyzing the period of the IV century. AD, convincingly proved that there was no statehood and independence in Armenia for 1,5 thousand years, the dating of Christianization is false, i.e. the Armenian myth of early Christianity is also far-fetched, and all ancient Armenian and subsequent chronicles are imbued with the spirit of historical falsehood, caused by the desire to stand out among other peoples.
      The author also proved the tendentiousness of the fathers of Armenian history Favstos Buzand and Movses Khorenatsi, who, contrary to the historical truth, present Armenia as a political unity. On the basis of reliable historical material, she substantiated the location of Armenia far beyond the Caucasus, namely in Asia Minor, on the two banks of the Euphrates River. The evidence base also includes the fact of the baptism of the Armenian people led by Tsar Trdat in 314 in the r. Euphrates.
      The scientist explains that the Armenians began to create the "History of Armenia" from the XNUMXth century, after the abolition of the Armenian statehood. This means that the ancient historians were associated with individual nakharar [princely] houses, promoted their interests, and therefore their works should not be read as works on the History of Armenia, “putting geographic and national meaning in the ethnikon”. Moreover, as the author notes, "... the concept of a nation in the real sense did not exist in the Middle Ages, either in the East or in the West."
      The article proves that there was no united Armenia, and the formations of which it consisted were located outside the South Caucasus on the territory of modern Turkey, Iran and Iraq, moreover, in the sphere of political influence of the powerful Roman and Persian empires.
    2. Dukhskrepny Offline Dukhskrepny
      Dukhskrepny (Vasya) April 15 2021 12: 13
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      Quote: kapitan92
      Zangezur (Syunik region in Armenia) and Irevan (Yerevan) are the primordial Azerbaijani regions.

      Historically Zangezur was the southern part of the ancient Armenian province of Syunik.
      Inscriptions of the king of Great Armenia Artashes I (189-160 BC) in the Aramaic language were found on the territory of Zangezur. At the beginning of the IV century, Syunik, along with other provinces of Armenia, was converted to Christianity. Of the twelve gavars (districts) of Syunik, there were seven within Zangezur (Chaguk, Agakhechk, Gaband, Bagk or Balk, Dzork, Arevik and Kusakan.). At the beginning of the 428th century, the Armenian scientist and educator Mesrop Mashtots conducted preaching and educational activities here. From XNUMX to the beginning of the XNUMXth century, it was part of the Armenian province of Persia. In the middle of the XNUMXth century, Zangezur, like all of Armenia, was captured by the Arabs.
      At the end of the XNUMXth century, Zangezur, as a part of Syunik, became part of the centralized Armenian kingdom], later - the Syunik kingdom.
      (A small excursion into history. Vicki)


      Mammads need a "corridor" to Nakhichevan, which explains Aliyev's rhetoric.
      But, this is the territory of Armenia, and Armenia is a member of the CSTO, we draw conclusions who is the puppeteer in this case.

      .... at the beginning of the IV century "Armenia" consisted of separate political formations in the north - the kingdom of the Arshakids, the capital of which was moved from Artashat to Dvin, in the south - autonomous satrapies, who entered the orbit of Roman influence as a result of the treaty of 298. and the Euphrates province of Armenia Minor, which had long been part of the empire. Later, after the partition of 387, this picture is even more complicated by the appearance of the Armenia Interior, consisting of the northern Trans-Euphrates Gavars, which became part of the empire under the terms of the new treaty. "
      "Everything that we know about Armenia testifies to the fact that Armenia in the XNUMXst-XNUMXth centuries, despite the zealous supporters of the greatness of" Great Armenia ", can in no way be presented" as a religious and political unity, as a toponym with unchanging content, identified with the northern Arshakid kingdom "/ ie Albania /. Politically, the zone of Nagorno-Karabakh in the XNUMXst-XNUMXth centuries was absolutely undoubtedly subject to the Albanian Arshakids, in the XNUMXth-XNUMXth centuries the great princes Mihranids. As a result of the Arab conquest, the Albanian kingdom fell. The Albanian church was subordinated to the Armenian. This marked the beginning of the gradual de-ethnicization of the Albanian ethnos. "So enough weaving tales about the most ancient Christians, Armenians.
  3. rotkiv04 Offline rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 (Victor) April 14 2021 12: 25
    +2
    So this Turkish citizen opened his true "face"
  4. Petr Vladimirovich (Peter) April 14 2021 14: 26
    0
    And the Zangezur corridor, is it a dismantled one-track in Armenia?
    1. Dukhskrepny Offline Dukhskrepny
      Dukhskrepny (Vasya) April 15 2021 12: 15
      -1
      Yeah, and in general Armenia is Atlantis and Hyperborea
  5. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) April 15 2021 11: 28
    0
    Why is the source not specified?
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  6. Dukhskrepny Offline Dukhskrepny
    Dukhskrepny (Vasya) April 15 2021 12: 03
    -1
    Quote: kapitan92
    Zangezur (Syunik region in Armenia) and Irevan (Yerevan) are the primordial Azerbaijani regions.

    Historically Zangezur was the southern part of the ancient Armenian province of Syunik.
    Inscriptions of the king of Great Armenia Artashes I (189-160 BC) in the Aramaic language were found on the territory of Zangezur. At the beginning of the IV century, Syunik, along with other provinces of Armenia, was converted to Christianity. Of the twelve gavars (districts) of Syunik, there were seven within Zangezur (Chaguk, Agakhechk, Gaband, Bagk or Balk, Dzork, Arevik and Kusakan.). At the beginning of the 428th century, the Armenian scientist and educator Mesrop Mashtots conducted preaching and educational activities here. From XNUMX to the beginning of the XNUMXth century, it was part of the Armenian province of Persia. In the middle of the XNUMXth century, Zangezur, like all of Armenia, was captured by the Arabs.
    At the end of the XNUMXth century, Zangezur, as a part of Syunik, became part of the centralized Armenian kingdom], later - the Syunik kingdom.
    (A small excursion into history. Vicki)


    Mammads need a "corridor" to Nakhichevan, which explains Aliyev's rhetoric.
    But, this is the territory of Armenia, and Armenia is a member of the CSTO, we draw conclusions who is the puppeteer in this case.

    Ancient Armenia never existed in the South Caucasus. Armenians lived in small towns on the territory of Persia, Turkey and Iraq. Legends and myths of "ancient Armenia"
  7. Dukhskrepny Offline Dukhskrepny
    Dukhskrepny (Vasya) April 15 2021 12: 34
    0
    Here is a more complete part of Aliyev's speech at a press conference on April 13, 2021 The author of the article, by the way, did not even mention himself. He took part of Aliyev's answer to the question and laid out his article from the pieces:

    ... They just can't understand that the problem is in themselves. The greatest threat to Armenia is Armenian psychology. They need to change it. This very painful lesson that they had to learn could be a turning point in their understanding of reality and the fact that if you call yourself an independent country, the fate of your people is only in your hands. If you want to be protected, join the union state. There is a union state between Russia and Belarus, and I know that some in Armenia are talking about a union state - then let them lower their flag and become the province of another country, and they will be protected, "the Azerbaijani leader suggested.

    "At first they stated that Nagorno-Karabakh is an independent state, and then they began to print maps of all the occupied territories, calling them Nagorno-Karabakh, changing the names of our cities and villages, threatening us with the seizure of new territories. Armenian Defense Minister Tonoyan stated that Armenia is preparing for a new war for new territories. We showed that this is a new war in the old territories, and Tonoyan was removed from his post. This is a lesson for everyone else who thinks they can talk to us in this manner. During the war, we did what was it is necessary, we walked along those borders that were correct, and we did nothing more than what was supposed to be done, "he said, stressing that attempts to accuse Azerbaijan of territorial claims against Armenia are just another manipulation by Yerevan.

    “They say that I have territorial claims - no, I do not, and I declare this publicly. On the other hand, we need to know history. Sometimes the younger generation does not know history, even our generation - we were taught a fake history. Those who were portrayed as heroes when I was in school were in fact criminals, they destroyed the Azerbaijani people. For example, 26 Baku commissars. We were told that they saved our homeland. But Shahumyan and others are criminals who killed Azerbaijanis, who set up here Therefore, we do not want the younger generation not to know the real events. When I say that Zangezur is an ancient Azerbaijani land, it is true. Zangezur was given to Armenia in 1920, 101 years ago. Before that it belonged to us. When I I say that Goycha, or, as they call it, Sevan is a lake where Azerbaijanis lived, this is also true. Just look at the map of the early XNUMXth century, and you will not see Sevan there, there will be Goycha, "the President reminded tons of Azerbaijan.

    "The same applies to Yerevan. They destroyed the historical part of Yerevan - this is an obvious fact. Azerbaijanis lived there, including my ancestors. This is a fact, but it does not follow from it that we have territorial claims. I can say more. Maybe you are not wanted to mention it or don't know, but I even said at one time that we would return there. Yes, I said that - but I did not say that we would return there in tanks. I only said that we would return. If we return to Zangezur corridor, if we use this road, why can't we return to Yerevan? I think the time will come and we will. Once again, thanks for this question, it allowed me to clarify my words and present my position. We will remember our history, but we have no territorial claims to any country, including Armenia, "Ilham Aliyev noted.