Buchenwald Uprising - A Feat Beyond the Possible


April 11 is celebrated all over the world as the Day of Liberation of the prisoners of Nazi camps. Glorious and mournful day ... Speaking of it, there is no way around one, not too pleasant detail. Before us is another attempt, if not to manipulate, then at least slightly "correct" the history of the great confrontation with the "brown plague" that almost swept the world in the twentieth century. Once again, to silence the indisputable fact that the main merit in saving mankind from it belongs to the victorious Red Army, the Soviet people, the USSR.


In the vast majority of informational materials about this day, timed to coincide with the end of the existence of one of the most terrible concentration camps of the Third Reich - Buchenwald, you will read that units of the advancing US army brought freedom to its prisoners. In fact, everything was completely different. Yes, the Americans were the first of the regular military units of the Anti-Hitler coalition who entered the gates of hell, on which the verdict was inscribed to all who crossed this fatal line. But the camp by this moment was completely under the control of the prisoners, the main role in the organization and victory of the uprising of which was played by Soviet prisoners of war.

"To each his own..."


It was these words, which were just a rehash of the wording of the ancient Romans, the successors of the imperial affairs of which the "Aryan" inhumans imagined themselves to be, and were placed above the main entrance to the concentration camp, the name of which has forever become one of the symbols of sheer horror and transcendental atrocity. But in translation from German Buchenwald is just a "beech forest" ... By 1937, when the first prisoners arrived at this place, there was, of course, no forest there, but there were barracks, a parade ground, rows of barbed wire and towers protection. Later, from 1938 to 1940, Buchenwald acquired all the attributes of a "death camp" - execution, torture, gallows, crematorium and everything else. So it turned from a place of confinement into one of the terrible "factories" for the planned and purposeful destruction of people by the Nazis - first of all, Jews, Gypsies and representatives of other "wrong" nationalities.

With the beginning of the Great Patriotic War, Soviet prisoners of war and ordinary citizens from the occupied territories of the USSR went there in a stream. Today it is extremely difficult to say exactly how many of our compatriots perished in the circles of this hell - for example, captured Red Army soldiers very often simply were not included in the camp statistics. Nevertheless, it is absolutely possible to say that only fighters, commanders and political workers of the Red Army, partisans and underground fighters, in a word, those Soviet people who resisted the fascist scum with weapons in their hands, at least 8 and a half thousand were destroyed there. In total, according to fairly rough estimates, about a quarter of a million people passed through Buchenwald's nightmare. The dead are considered 56 thousand.

If among the total number of Buchenwald prisoners, every fifth was tortured, then with the citizens of the USSR the picture was completely different. There were about 25 thousand of them in this terrible camp. One in five survived ... A significant statistic, isn't it? This is how the Nazis embodied the slogan inscribed on the gate and with the most fierce hatred they exterminated those in whom, quite reasonably, they saw the main danger to themselves. It should be noted that over time Buchenwald turned into a kind of surrealist-eerie semblance of a "solid commercial enterprise" - with a "head office" near Weimar and almost 140 "branches", no less deadly than the main camp. The prisoners were used in full force, in particular, in especially harmful and dangerous industries associated with the manufacture of the notorious "weapon of retaliation" - missiles "Fau". However, the main nightmare for the prisoners was, perhaps, not backbreaking work, not meager food, not the mockery of warders and guards from the infamous SS division "Dead Head".

Buchenwald was one of the main centers of SS "camp medicine", whose adherents, incredible monsters in white coats, conducted deadly experiments on prisoners. Often their actions were completely devoid of practical meaning, were torture and satisfaction of sadistic inclinations in their purest form. However, as a rule, they had very specific pragmatic goals - vaccines against cholera, typhoid, tuberculosis and many other serious diseases were tested on Buchenwald prisoners. If anyone has forgotten, I hasten to remind you that the foundations of German pharmacology, rightly considered today by many to be the best in the world, were laid there and in this way. It is unacceptable to forget about it.

Russian - and a warrior in captivity


The first Soviet prisoners of war began arriving in Buchenwald in September 1941. And already in November-December, they began to create the first underground groups in the camp to fight the Nazis. In no case will I say that the camp resistance was represented only by our compatriots - in its ranks were Czechs, Slovaks, Poles, Dutch, Belgians, Spaniards, French, Yugoslavs and a fairly large number of Germans. Do not forget that it was Buchenwald that initially became a place of imprisonment for many communists in Germany. It was there that on August 18, 1944, their leader was executed - the unyielding Ernst Thälmann, whom the Nazis tortured in dungeons for 11 years. Realizing that they were losing the war to his ideological associates, the villains "recouped" in such a mean and brutal way. Despite the terror, intimidation, constant mass executions, the presence of a rather extensive Gestapo agent network among the prisoners, Buchenwald's underground organization grew and strengthened.

By March 1942, into a single Russian united political The underground center was joined not only by scattered resistance cells from prisoners of the Red Army, but also by all our compatriots, who did not want to kneel before the Nazis and humbly wait for their fate, hoping by obedience to bargain for an extra day of life. A year later, an international camp committee was formed, which included a military organization, which began to form brigades, battalions, companies for the future uprising ... Needless to say that the first, "shock" brigade consisted entirely of captured Red Army men. Other brigades were called more modestly - "wooden", "stone", "small camp". The names of the first two units from this trio were given according to the material of the barracks in which their future fighters were kept. What a tree, what a stone - these people were stronger than the hardened steel!

In fact, of course, they were prisoners emaciated beyond all limits, literally staggering from the wind, prisoners whose only weapons at the initial stage were spoon cuttings sharpened to razor sharpness. However, they would have gone into battle with bare hands - such love for their Motherland and hatred for its enemies burned in their hearts that it seemed that she alone was capable of incinerating whole hosts of executioners and tormentors ... Be that as it may, but on some moral and volitional qualities, even the highest, it would be tricky to win a battle against well-fed, sleek, armed to the teeth and trained worse than any SS dogs. The leaders of the underground understood this. They set combat training and supplies to the highest level possible under the inhuman conditions that befell them. In detail, on a screw, firearms were hit and assembled. From scraps of cast-iron pipes and improvised explosives, handicraft "hand grenades" were made.

Colonel of the chemical service of the Red Army Nikolai Potapov managed to develop a recipe for an incendiary mixture that could be created in a camp - and the arsenal of the underground replenished with two hundred bottles with it. By the time of the performance, 91 rifles, about a hundred pistols, more than a hundred hand grenades (mostly homemade) and even a light machine gun were stored in the secret warehouses of the battle groups! What is no less valuable, the camp craftsmen managed to make a completely working radio transmitter, which they planned to use to communicate with the advancing liberators, out of no one knows how the extracted parts. At the same time, work was underway to coordinate future assault groups, train their members in the skills of handling weapons and explosives, and overcoming obstacles. They trained orderlies, drivers and even ... tankers! What if you manage to seize the "armor"?!

"Cursed be he who passes in this fight ..."


The above words are from the appeal with which the Buchenwald underground center addressed the prisoners on April 11, 1945, urging them to start the uprising. I must say that there was nowhere to postpone the action - the defense of the Third Reich was falling apart before our eyes, the Red Army was rolling in from the East with an irresistible wave, American troops were slowly approaching from the West. The camp began hastily to prepare for an "evacuation," which in reality would mean the destruction of most of the prisoners, if not all of them. Nikolai Simakov, a former border guard sergeant, who was a member of the leadership of the international committee, offered to give battle on April 4-5, but the rest of the members of this body were careful - at that time too many Wehrmacht and SS forces were concentrated around the camp. These warriors could no longer resist the regular units, but the rebellious camp would have been slaughtered with great pleasure ... Ultimately, Simakov ended up on the stage of one of the "death marches", which, starting from April 4, began to depart from Buchenwald almost every day ...

However, even sending from the camp in the same way a group of the most trained fighters of almost half a thousand Soviet prisoners of war could not break the plans of the underground workers - going in fact to certain death, they managed to transfer information about the caches of weapons to their comrades, and the thinning ranks of the rebels were immediately filled with new prisoners , eager to fight. By the way, Simakov did not die, moreover, he managed to get things done elsewhere by organizing a group escape from the train with prisoners. The NKVD school, you know, this is serious ... After the liberation, the die-hard warrior immediately joined the Czechoslovak partisans, and then joined the Red Army, so in time that he managed to take part in the storming of Berlin, for which he was awarded the Order of Glory.

On April 8, two underground workers - Russian Konstantin Leonov and Pole Guidon Damazin managed to transmit a radiogram to the advancing Americans: “We are from the Buchenwald camp! SOS! Help is urgently needed! SS men are preparing to destroy us! " There was no exaggeration here - having completely lost control over the situation in the camp in recent days (the prisoners had already openly refused to obey orders), its leadership decided on a total "cleanup", knowing full well that no evacuation was possible. The total extermination of the prisoners was scheduled for 17:11 on April 15. However, at 15 hours and XNUMX minutes, the underground went on the attack. Someone might imagine that this was not so suicidal and hopeless - after all, there were quite a few career soldiers in the ranks of the attackers, and they had weapons ...

In order to dispel this misconception, let me clarify: Buchenwald was guarded by about 3 thousand selected SS thugs, 23 watchtowers with well-equipped firing points towered around it. The guards had only a dozen heavy machine guns in service, manual MGs capable of mowing down a rifle company in a matter of minutes, there were more than six dozen. In addition, shortly before the uprising, the SS men were also given four hundred faust cartridges. So the real balance of forces was not at all in favor of the underground. Another thing is that even the most fanatical of the Nazis at that moment already understood perfectly well that the war was lost. Therefore, by the time of the attack, most of the SS men had left the camp territory, however, taking up positions in the surrounding forests. There they were subsequently caught by prisoners who wanted to pay in full for the years of suffering. They paid, as a rule, on the spot - and without surrender ... Only a few hundred SS men managed to surrender. By the way, who were in their misfortune, on the territory of the camp, the "supermen" lifted their paws up instantly, just after hearing the Russian "Hurray!"

"And where were the Americans ?!" - you ask. Well, in response to a desperate call on the radio, Leonov and Damazin received an answer: “We are in a hurry to help! Hold on! " Yeah ... The Yankees were "in a hurry" in a rather peculiar way. Today American historians claim that they "liberated" the camp on April 11, 1945. Nothing like this! On this day, not far from Buchenwald, a tank patrol of the US Army reconnaissance only flashed. Flashed - and disappeared ... In fact, her main forces approached the camp on April 13. And, by the way, they had every chance to find there not the 21 thousand prisoners whom they allegedly "saved", but only the corpses. In the middle of the night of April 12, a call from the Gestapo of nearby Weimar rang at the camp office. They were concerned about the too long silence of the local authorities. Fortunately, the apparatus turned out to be one of the German anti-fascists, who managed to convince the Gestapo that the liquidation of the camp was in full swing, but they did not get in touch, because they were too busy ... to cover with artillery or send punishers.

Stopped forever at a quarter past four, the Buchenwald camp clock does not show the time of the arrival of the American "saviors", but the moment of the beginning of a heroic uprising, the core of which were real Soviet people, who on April 11, 1945 once again showed the world an example of unbending fortitude and the highest courage.
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  1. zzdimk Offline zzdimk
    zzdimk April 10 2021 12: 21
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    We remember the Name. The West doesn't care. The West has a short memory, like a fuse in Grenada.
  2. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) April 10 2021 13: 32
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    So it turned from a place of confinement into one of the terrible "factories" for the planned and purposeful destruction of people by the Nazis - first of all, Jews, Gypsies and representatives of other "wrong" nationalities.

    Error. Buchenwald was originally a prison + a network of concentration camps to "fix" political opponents (primarily communists), criminals and representatives of prohibited religious movements (Jehovah's Witnesses). Jews and Gypsies were almost never held there and were not exterminated until January 1945. When the war began, production was established in the branches of Buchenwald using the labor of prisoners of war. Buchenwald was not an extermination factory, yet more than 20% of the prisoners died.
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    2. Dear sofa expert. April 10 2021 16: 47
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      political opponents (primarily communists), criminals and representatives of prohibited religious movements (Jehovah's Witnesses). Jews and Gypsies were almost never held there and were not exterminated until January 1945.

      Illiterate nonsense!

      It is precisely the Jews and Gypsies who are indicated in German sources at the "honorable" SECOND AND THIRD places, after the political ones, for the "fight" against which the Buchenwald concentration camp was created in 1937.

      On June 4, 1938, the first person of Danish / Polish (Jewish?) Origin, Emil Bargatzky, was executed in the Buchenwald camp.

      In mid-June of the same year, a group of Jewish prisoners, numbering over a thousand people, arrived in Buchenwald.

      In September, the mass delivery of Austrian Jews from Dochau to the camp began.

      In November 1938, the total number of people taken to the camp reached 10.

      By the end of the year, there were 11028 people in the camp. Overcrowding caused typhus, killing 802 people, 408 of whom were Jews.

      In September 1939, 8500 people were brought to the camp, including several hundred gypsies (Sinti) and more than a thousand Viennese Jews ...

      etc

      https://www.buchenwald.de/72/
      1. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
        Alexzn (Alexander) April 10 2021 17: 32
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        Jews from Austria who were brought to the camp after Kristallnacht were released within a year, although after the confiscation of property and the collection of maintenance fees. Most of those released left the territory of the Reich. Jews on the territory of the Reich were practically not destroyed; at the first stage they were squeezed out of the country, at the second, they were deported to the east, where they were mostly destroyed.
        From 1939/40 to 1945, Jews were not kept in camps on the territory of the Reich, much less destroyed. In 1945, during the retreat, the Germans transported over 2 thousand Jews to Buchenwald, which had the infrastructure of destruction, due to the rapid occupation of the territory of the Reich by the allies, most of the Jews managed to escape.
        1. Dear sofa expert. April 10 2021 18: 43
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          Jews from Austria taken to the camp after Kristallnacht

          Yes you?)
          Kristallnacht - November 9-10.

          And the delivery of Jews to Buchenwald began earlier.

          In mid-June of the same year, a group of Jewish prisoners, numbering over a thousand people, arrived in Buchenwald.

          In September, the mass delivery of Austrian Jews from Dochau to the camp began.

          (see source above.)
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  4. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
    Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 10 2021 17: 38
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    So it turned from a place of confinement into one of the terrible "factories" for the planned and purposeful destruction of people by the Nazis - first of all, Jews, Gypsies and representatives of other "wrong" nationalities.

    As far as I remember, the prisoners in the camp were political, Jehovah's Witnesses and adherents of same-sex relationships.

    not the bullying of warders and guards from the infamous SS Division "Dead Head".

    Isn't SS Death's Head a Panzer Division? She guarded the camp with tanks?

    Stopped forever at a quarter past four, the Buchenwald camp clock does not show the time of the arrival of the American "saviors", but the moment of the beginning of a heroic uprising, the core of which were real Soviet people, who on April 11, 1945 once again showed the world an example of unbending fortitude and the highest courage.

    And who claims that the US troops arrived at 15:15?
    As I understand it, this is a holiday in honor international the armed uprising of Buchenwald prisoners, and about "the core of which were the real Soviet people" of this uprising is not very true.

    Here is the list of the camp committee:

    • Bartel, Walter
    • Ernst Busse
    • Domenico Chiufoli
    • Henri Gliner
    • Jan Haken
    • Kvstoslav Innemann
    • Jan Izidorchik
    • Georg Krausch
    • Kuhn, Harry
    • Henri Manhesh
    • Marcel Paul
    • Otto Roth
    • Nikolay Simakov
    • Heinrich Studer
    • Rudy Supek
    • Walter Wilhauer

    They trained orderlies, drivers and even ... tankers! What if you manage to seize the "armor"?!

    And how, interestingly, were the tankers trained?

    However, at 15 hours and 15 minutes, the underground went on the attack. Someone might imagine that this was not so suicidal and hopeless - after all, there were quite a few career soldiers in the ranks of the attackers, and they had weapons ...

    In order to dispel this misconception, let me clarify: Buchenwald was guarded by about 3 thousand selected SS thugs, 23 watchtowers with well-equipped firing points towered around it. The guards had only a dozen heavy machine guns in service, manual MGs capable of mowing down a rifle company in a matter of minutes, there were more than six dozen. In addition, shortly before the uprising, the SS men were also given four hundred faust cartridges. So the real balance of forces was not at all in favor of the underground.

    From the memoirs it is clear that there were no battles, when the American Shermans (the same patrol) approached, the guards fled, some (58 people) were detained by prisoners.
    http://www.trend.infopartisan.net/trd0408/t060408.html

    Undoubtedly, the rebellious courageous people and their actions are heroic, but why turn their feat into an unreal fairy tale about how they almost with their bare hands defeated 3000 SS men with machine guns and faust patrons? By this, the author, in my opinion, belittles their act in the eyes of their descendants, who, after hearing such unrealistic stories, may well doubt whether there was a feat.
    I understand that propaganda is above all, and it is simply necessary for the author to reproach the Americans, but the edges must be seen.
    1. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
      Alexzn (Alexander) April 10 2021 18: 11
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      Undoubtedly, the rebellious courageous people and their actions are heroic, but why turn their feat into an unreal fairy tale about how they almost with their bare hands defeated 3000 SS men with machine guns and faust patrons? By this, the author, in my opinion, belittles their act in the eyes of their descendants, who, after hearing such unrealistic stories, may well doubt whether there was a feat.

      In most cases, the course of the uprisings in the camps is a myth, far from real events. This is especially true of the uprising in the Warsaw ghetto and B-Belsen.
    2. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
      Alexzn (Alexander) April 10 2021 18: 41
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      Quote: Oleg Rambover
      I understand that propaganda is above all, and it is simply necessary for the author to reproach the Americans, but the edges must be seen.

      The war for historical truth in action. The universal tragedy turns into the movie "Tanks".
      1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 11 2021 14: 13
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        You seem to be from Israel? Does it have their own 28, say Yoffeis, who destroyed an Egyptian tank regiment with only small arms?
  5. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) April 10 2021 18: 00
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    During the existence of the camp, 250 thousand people passed through it, of which Jews accounted for 5-6%, gypsies and Jehovah's Witnesses about 1%, political up to 20%. The vast majority of the prisoners were prisoners of war (primarily Soviet).
    Once again - from 1940 to 1945 Jews were practically not kept in the camp.
    1. Dear sofa expert. April 10 2021 19: 29
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      Once again - from 1940 to 1945 Jews were practically not kept in the camp.

      Yes? And the Germans give this information:

      Beginning of the year, Buchenwald (1940):
      Hundreds of Roma and Jews have been victims of cold, hunger and forced labor.
      CC first kills these prisoners with poison shots. At the same time, the Erfurt company Topf & Söhne began construction of a crematorium on the territory of the concentration camp.

      1941, February 20
      389 Dutch Jews from Amsterdam arrive at the camp and are reassigned to KZ Mauthausen to work in the quarry in May / June.

      5-12 July 1940, Buchenwald
      The liquidation, by means of injections with poison, of two echelons of newly arrived Polish Jews from Poland with tuberculosis begins.

      March 1942 years
      As part of "Sonderbehandlung 14f13", the SS killed 384 Jewish prisoners by suffocation in a gas chamber.

      October of the same year:
      405 Jewish prisoners were sent to the Auschwitz camp, straight to the crematorium, where they were burned alive.

      1944 year.
      May to July:
      8000 Hungarian Jews were transported from the Auschwitz camp to the Buchenwald camp, where they were all killed on the spot.
      Just one month earlier, the same was done with 1000 Sinti / Gypsies.

      On 28 September, the SS sends 200 Sinti / Roma adolescents to the crematorium in Auschwitz.

      October 6 - the same procedure - 1188 Jewish men, women and children were burned alive in a crematorium.

      That's it.

      And you say they were not contained. But I have listed to you only the brutally killed from 1940 to 1944.
  6. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) April 10 2021 18: 33
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    not the bullying of warders and guards from the infamous SS Division "Dead Head".

    Isn't SS Death's Head a Panzer Division? She guarded the camp with tanks?

    There were 3 Death's Head divisions, only the 3rd was a tank division. It is clear that she did not guard the camp, they were guarded by DEAD CAPITAL UNITS, which had nothing to do with the tank division (as well as the other two).
    1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 11 2021 00: 12
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      I looked about the division. Not three divisions, but three formations of one division. I wonder how the panzergrenadier division differs from the tank division? In fact, the division was related to the "Death's Head" detachments. The first formation of the division consisted of volunteers from the Death's Head security detachment and its divisional commander was Theodor Eicke, the creator of the Death's Head detachments and the concentration camp system. He found his end in the Ukraine near Kharkov.
  7. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) April 10 2021 20: 02
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    Quote: AlexZN
    Jews from Austria who were brought to the camp after Kristallnacht were released within a year, although after the confiscation of property and the collection of maintenance fees. Most of those released left the territory of the Reich. Jews on the territory of the Reich were practically not destroyed; at the first stage they were squeezed out of the country, at the second, they were deported to the east, where they were mostly destroyed.
    From 1939/40 to 1945, Jews were not kept in camps on the territory of the Reich, much less destroyed. In 1945, during the retreat, the Germans transported over 2 thousand Jews to Buchenwald, which had the infrastructure of destruction, due to the rapid occupation of the territory of the Reich by the allies, most of the Jews managed to escape.

    Instead of Kristallnacht, read ANSHLUSA.
  8. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) April 10 2021 20: 53
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    5-12 July 1940, Buchenwald
    The liquidation, by means of injections with poison, of two echelons of newly arrived Polish Jews from Poland with tuberculosis begins.

    Patients with an infectious disease are transported from Poland to Germany (!!!) to kill them by contact ...

    October 6 - the same procedure - 1188 Jewish men, women and children were burned alive in a crematorium.

    Burning alive is not technically possible, even with conveyor belts.

    As part of "Sonderbehandlung 14f13", the SS killed 384 Jewish prisoners by suffocation in a gas chamber.

    It would be interesting to know where this gas chamber was located in Buchenwald ...

    8000 Hungarian Jews were transported from the Auschwitz camp to the Buchenwald camp, where they were all killed on the spot.

    It was not technically possible to kill (and then dispose of) 8000 people in Buchenwald right there!
    All information is presented in an artistic style and looks extremely implausible.
    1. Dear sofa expert. April 11 2021 02: 11
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      All information is presented in an artistic style and looks extremely implausible.

      You are apparently imbecile, huh?

      I gave you information from this source:

      https://www.buchenwald.de/72/

      Open it up and read it yourself.

      Or do you really think. that the Germans know less than you, how and where did they kill "you"?
  9. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) April 10 2021 21: 23
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    For general erudition, a small note - https://lenta.ru/articles/2013/06/11/buchenwald/
  10. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) April 11 2021 07: 59
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    As part of "Sonderbehandlung 14f13", the SS killed 384 Jewish prisoners by suffocation in a gas chamber.
    Particularly smart ones know how to distort information ...
    For example, the source gives - As part of the "special treatment 14f13", the SS killed 384 Jewish prisoners in the gas chamber death camp "euthanasia" in Bernburg.

    1944 year.
    May to July:
    8000 Hungarian Jews transported from the Auschwitz camp, to the Buchenwald camp, where they were all killed on the spot.

    You will hang noodles for someone else but not for me!
    The original source says that 8000 Hungarian Jews, withdrawn from the extermination process at Auschwitz, are delivered to Buchenwald and ruthlessly destroyed in satellite camps.
    Buchenwald had 138 EXTERNAL branch camps.
    The only RELIABLE sources are ID and BD Buchenwald from the Arolsen archive (Bad Arolsen).
    To write about such a sensitive topic, one must have an idea of ​​it and access to information not from memorial sites.
    1. Dear sofa expert. April 11 2021 11: 29
      +3
      You will hang noodles for someone else but not for me!

      Noodles on your ears already before me, somewhere, hung.

      I, though maybe in my own words, but wrote everything correctly.

      If you really like subtleties, then I will explain them to you:

      "Behandlung 14f13" - (like Begriff) is the coded information of the SS (sheep), and in fact is a prescription for transportation:
      14 - Where: KC-Camp Buchenwald.
      f - for what purpose: killing.
      13 - method of killing: gas.

      Throw all the rest of the trash out of your head. You are cleverly listing the quantity here:

      Buchenwald had 138 EXTERNAL branch camps.

      ... without even delving into the essence, written by you yourself.

      Aussenlager - and Buchenwald had 22 of them (and 138 not invented by you "on the knee"), even being at some distance from the main camp (Hauptlager), nevertheless remained, and precisely (!) - BRANCHES of this very BUCHENWALD.

      To write about such a sensitive topic, one must have an idea of ​​it and access to information not from memorial sites.

      Exactly. The most you have so far been smart enough to call the officially registered Domain: Buchenwald.de a memorial site.

      And your next step, apparently, will be a call for the abolition of the fact of the Holocaust, in the context of Nazi Germany?
  11. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) April 11 2021 09: 09
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    Quote: Oleg Rambover
    I looked about the division. Not three divisions, but three formations of one division. I wonder how the panzergrenadier division differs from the tank division? In fact, the division was related to the "Death's Head" detachments. The first formation of the division consisted of volunteers from the Death's Head security detachment and its divisional commander was Theodor Eicke, the creator of the Death's Head detachments and the concentration camp system. He found his end in the Ukraine near Kharkov.

    I agree. Differences arise because of the "3rd division". It is the third among the tank divisions, and not among the divisions of Death's Head .. In addition, due to the fact that, in fact, it existed in 3 versions (not three divisions, but three divisions). The MG detachments arose during the creation of the MG division (it was still an infantry guard), they no longer had anything to do with the tank division.
  12. George W. Bush - medium (George Bush - average) April 11 2021 15: 31
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    This is how Western propaganda works: here is a tank division, there is a tank division ...
    About this, that fascism, born in the West, is Evil and who defeated this infection - not a word.
    1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
      Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 11 2021 20: 17
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      About May, that is, asking about the real history of the Second World War is Western propaganda, and verses like "Russian - and a warrior in captivity" smelling of Nazism and stories like half-dead prisoners in one fell swoop of seven Sowing the heights of historicity? In the West, communism and liberalism and conservatism and absolutism and humanism and internationalism and nationalism and much more were born. Actually, the entire modern world lives under the influence of ideas born in the "West" and according to the rules of "Western" capitalism.
      1. George W. Bush - medium (George Bush - average) April 11 2021 22: 24
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        Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, Bolivia ... also live under the influence of ideas born in the "west" or ... "is it different?" Oh well lol
        PS Study, study, study, liberal clever girl!
        1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
          Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 12 2021 00: 57
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          Communist Cuba? Once again communist. Communism is what the German Marx developed. And in London.
          Bolivarian Republic Venezuela, be a sweetheart, take a look at the wiki and see what a republic is and how the acquisition of US independence and the French Revolution have to do with it.
          Islamic Republic Iran is the same.
          The name of the Plurinational State of Bolivia does not contain the word republic, but this does not negate the fact that it is a republic.
          So sit down, two, ignorant cotton.
          1. isofat Online isofat
            isofat (isofat) April 12 2021 03: 58
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            Oleg Ramboverwhere did you read that communism is the development of the German Marx?

            Many civilizations, including the Western one, have achievements. But these achievements are the merit of historical development.

            Don't be nervous, I hope you still have time to fill in the gaps in your education. laughing
      2. isofat Online isofat
        isofat (isofat) April 12 2021 03: 10
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        Quote: Oleg Rambover
        Actually, the entire modern world lives under the influence of ideas born in the "West" and according to the rules of "Western" capitalism.

        Oleg Rambover, do not exaggerate the influence of the West, many civilizations have influenced the development of our world. The West did not draw its ideas from scratch.

        As for the uprising in Buchenwald, then you did not give convincing evidence in favor of your version of the development of those events.
        1. George W. Bush - medium (George Bush - average) April 12 2021 10: 52
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          convincing evidence?

          This is an ordinary, paid and uneducated hohlyat troll - Skakua New Pig ...
          He beats the drums of war to drown out the clatter of empty pans! In the event of a hot conflict, the DPR troops go either to the Dnieper or to the Dniester.
          Depending on your mood. laughing
          1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
            Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 13 2021 01: 12
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            Compared to you, the first grader is the top of education. If that I am a citizen of the Russian Federation and the name of my hometown is spelled out in my nickname.
            I understand this defensive reaction. When a person like you realizes that he is not able to give a reasoned answer and he stupidly lacks knowledge and intelligence for this, he will not admit it to himself. He will begin to accuse the interlocutor that he is a Ukrainian troll, ignorant, etc. But you and I know that you have nothing to answer stupidly.
            Better answer, so you think that the discussion of the history of the SS division is Western propaganda (some kind of paranoia), but the author's interpretation of the events in Buchenwald, in which it is not propaganda to diminish the role of prisoners of other nationalities and exaggerate the role of Soviet citizens?
            1. isofat Online isofat
              isofat (isofat) April 13 2021 22: 49
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              Oleg Rambover, you explained to your opponent what he was thinking, then what he might have thought. Found a comparison for his education, everything would be great, but ...

              There is one little "nno". Your nickname is not registerednnoh, and the propisнabout. laughing
  13. Alexzn Offline Alexzn
    Alexzn (Alexander) April 13 2021 20: 11
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    Quote: Oleg Rambover
    You seem to be from Israel? Does it have their own 28, say Yoffeis, who destroyed an Egyptian tank regiment with only small arms?

    Not to that extent. We also have a real hero. According to various sources, Zvika Gringold knocked out from 20 to 60 enemy tanks T-54, T-55, T-62 per day, replacing 6 destroyed tanks "Centurion". At first it turned into a myth about 56-60 tanks in one battle, but then it turned out that Zvika himself declared 20, which were certainly confirmed. But the writers ... yes ... I shot a dozen tanks from an ultrasound scan and a couple of moments.
  14. To what the Polish people have brought the people! Looks like in 21 the Red Army men liked to crush! Pshekossny monsters!