What "pitfalls" for Russia may be fraught with an alliance with China


A new round of heightened tensions between the United States and our country makes us think about many things. And, in particular, about whose support Russia can count on in its confrontation with the "world hegemon" who does not want to give up its positions, which is becoming more and more tough. According to the majority of domestic experts in the field of geopolitics, China could become the most likely and acceptable ally in this situation.


However, in relations between Beijing and Moscow, not everything is as smooth and unambiguous as proclaimed from the high rostrum by the officials of both countries. Let's try to figure out - what can Russia really count on in this alliance and what "pitfalls" for it can it conceal in itself?

There is a relationship ... But at what level?


Many rushed to call the recent visit to the Celestial Empire of Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov a "breakthrough" or at least a "big step forward" in the rapprochement of the two states that have a common problem with the capital in Washington. Indeed, a lot has been said - both about the abandonment of the dollar, and about "the earliest possible search for an alternative to the international payment systems controlled by the United States", as well as about the opposition to sanctions for everything that is possible and impossible, which the Americans have recently begun to "stamp "Already downright conveyor method. Nevertheless, after returning to his native land, Lavrov said several rather discouraging things. First of all, there will be no full-fledged military alliance between Moscow and Beijing, which is so feared in the West and which some people are talking about the need to create in our country. The country's chief diplomat said that "we do not need classical military blocs like NATO." And what you need?

At the same time, Lavrov did not fail to intriguingly assure that "the relations between China and Russia are in a sense closer than those of the members of the North Atlantic Alliance." To tell the truth, it sounds like something ... After all, in the end it is not about matters of the heart, but about the prospects for cooperation between the two powers, capable of jointly fairly “reshaping” the current geopolitical picture of the world. The words of the Foreign Minister regarding the fact that Moscow and Beijing are not going to give a consolidated response to certain sanctions and other similar measures taken by the West are much more understandable and therefore even more unpleasant. This already looks like a very big omission, especially in light of what a wonderful shortening the Chinese comrades were able to give to the "world community" quite recently, which took it into its head to "educate" them for the "oppression of the Uighurs."

The joint indignation of Beijing and Moscow at the "unilateral" and "unmotivated" restrictions imposed on both countries is, of course, remarkable. Diplomatic demarches such as, for example, the statement made by the official representative of the Chinese Foreign Ministry Wang Wenbin that in the Celestial Empire all issues related to Alexei Navalny are considered a purely internal affair of Russia and strongly condemn the interference in this situation by “external forces ". However, we are now talking about something else. The main thing in China's reaction to the fanning of hysteria around the "Uyghur question" is perhaps not even the counter-sanctions introduced by this state against a number of not only officials, but also entire institutions of the European Union. Much more important (and much more painful for the West) is the friendly reaction that followed from the Chinese society. Its representatives, from public figures to the most ordinary citizens, hit corporations that decided to play the "fight for human rights" on the sick person. That is, according to the wallet. A total boycott of such global brands as Adidas, Nike, H&M announced in the Middle Kingdom brought them colossal, billions of dollars in losses, and, in addition, brought down the stock quotes of these companies' shares.

Let's imagine for a moment that China and Russia will do something similar synchronously and in a coordinated manner. Why nothing of the kind (judging by Lavrov's words) is even being discussed is deeply incomprehensible. Recently, Beijing, which for a very long time adhered to maximum restraint and moderation in its own foreign policy steps even in the most unpleasant situations, began to act much more actively, assertively, and sharply. Is Moscow not ready to support such a “game of raising rates,” or does Beijing not want to add to its problems with Washington the intervention in the Russian-American showdown? It is difficult to say something definite here, but one thing is indisputable - sooner or later both countries will most likely have to start supporting each other in this confrontation in more effective ways than now.

"The economy should be ..." Or shouldn't it?


However, much more pressing, according to many analysts, remains the issue of cooperation between Russia and China in economic area. And here everything is even more complicated. Not too much zeal in rapprochement in this direction, shown by Beijing, gives rather weighty grounds for criticizing the very idea of ​​Russian-Chinese cooperation both to its open opponents and to quite numerous skeptics. Indeed, according to the official data of the domestic Central Bank, the volume of direct investments in our economy from the Celestial Empire in the first three quarters of last year fell by more than half - from $ 3.7 to $ 1.8 billion. In comparison with 2014, we have a drop in two and a half times. Our Chinese partners today account for less than half a percent of the total volume of foreign investments in the domestic economy! The fate of such large-scale projects as the second stage of the Power of Siberia gas pipeline and the Eurasia railroad remains unclear (in terms of Beijing's share in them). The Chinese comrades are not at all averse to using them - but, let's say, they are in no hurry to allocate funding.

There is one more not very pleasant moment - according to official data, only one financial institution of the Middle Kingdom - Bank of China - is connected to the SPFS payment system, which is considered to be a Russian alternative to SWIFT (and indeed it is, in fact). Agree, against the background of the appeals voiced in Beijing by Mr. Lavrov, this does not look very good ... Meanwhile, as it became known recently, the Ministry of Finance of Russia, following the example of the Central Bank (which quadrupled the share of the yuan in its international reserves in 2018-2020), transferred to the national currency of the PRC at least 15% of the funds of the National Wealth Fund.

At the same time, according to available data, last year's trade volume in the yuan-ruble corridor amounted to no more than $ 3.3 billion, with a total trade turnover between the countries of almost $ 108 billion. Doesn't sound like "ditching the dollar", does it? Of course, in the field of economic cooperation between the two countries, there are definitely positive shifts - for example, a twofold increase in railway traffic from China to Europe along our highways. However, we have to admit that everything turns out to be rather one-sided and far from being as large-scale as we would like. Meanwhile, some analysts are concerned about the conclusion by Beijing and Tehran on March 27 of this year, a "comprehensive" agreement on strategic partnership for a period of 25 years. This document, in particular, provides for the prospect of Chinese investments in the industry and infrastructure of Iran in the amount of at least $ 400 billion. Agreed within its framework and militarytechnical cooperation.

Thus, there is a danger of a significant ousting of Russian energy resources from the Celestial Empire's market, since Tehran intends to pay for all its investments, both in the peaceful and defense spheres, with energy resources, with the sale of which it is experiencing colossal problems due to Western sanctions. Without a doubt, oil and gas will be supplied to China at a very significant discount, the price competition with which domestic hydrocarbons are unlikely to withstand. Here we can only hope for the almost bottomless needs of this country for energy resources, which, perhaps, no exporter alone can fully satisfy. True, one should not forget that recently other suppliers from the Middle East, first of all, Saudi Arabia and Qatar, have also "targeted" the Celestial Empire.

In any case, for all the urgency of the economic aspect of Russian-Chinese cooperation, at the moment geopolitics is still coming to the fore. Moscow is on the verge of severing diplomatic relations with Washington (which the latter, judging by the actions of its authorities, is completely satisfied with), the prospects for establishing a dialogue between the Celestial Empire and the American side also do not inspire the slightest optimism. It is extremely important for both countries at this moment to decide whether they will respond to hostile attacks by coordinating their policies in one way or another, or everyone will be for himself, content with mutual tacit approval and the most general declarations, in which only the most general meaning will echo. There is a hope that willy-nilly, but they will have to unite. In any case, there are some encouraging signals. For example, the sharp statement by the head of the domestic Security Council Nikolai Patrushev, who directly accused the United States of developing biological weapons near the borders of our country, was actively supported by the Chinese Foreign Ministry. Its official representative Zhao Lijian demanded that the Americans report "on the experiments carried out in their military biological laboratories." At the same time, he more than transparently hinted that traces of the origin of the coronavirus should be sought in the United States, and not in China.

Such a consistency in the positions of Moscow and Beijing is good news. But in order to finally start to reckon with us seriously, it should be manifested much more often and more decisively, and literally for any reason. If the alliance of our countries does not reach a completely new qualitative level in the very near future, it will only be necessary to state that the United States has every chance of gaining the upper hand, once again applying the old world principle to its two main geopolitical opponents: “divide and rule ".
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  1. Dukhskrepny Offline Dukhskrepny
    Dukhskrepny (Vasya) April 9 2021 10: 55
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    According to Necropny, if the Chinese had poured 450 billion dollars into Russia, then everything would have been screwed up. In Beijing, apparently, Moscow is not particularly trusted because of the dominance of the oligarchs and the liberal economic policy of the authorities and the frank 5th column in the economic bloc of the government ... Money is being stolen , are withdrawn to the countries - "partners" to the West.
  2. Oder Offline Oder
    Oder (Wojciech) April 9 2021 11: 26
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    Or maybe your anti-American policy just comes back to you. The United States needs you to fight China. Your assertiveness (or maybe your willingness to raise the rate, like in poker) annoys them, so they use the Ukrainians and strengthen the troops in Donbass and Luhansk, suggesting the possibility of an attack. This is wagging a finger not to make an alliance with China, because you will be hot at the border. Of course, the US will unofficially support the UPA to balance the power.
    1. Oder Offline Oder
      Oder (Wojciech) April 9 2021 11: 50
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      Or maybe summer is just coming and Crimea will need water ...?
      1. 123 Offline 123
        123 (123) April 9 2021 20: 58
        +1
        Or maybe summer is just coming and Crimea will need water ...?

        We will get what we need ourselves. When will you finally give up Russian oil and gas?
        1. Oder Offline Oder
          Oder (Wojciech) April 12 2021 09: 59
          -1
          But why refuse, if it is very cheap, we will buy it. Business MSIU.
          1. 123 Offline 123
            123 (123) April 12 2021 10: 34
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            But why refuse, if it is very cheap, we will buy it.

            It is a little strange to hear about normal trade relations from the representative of Poland.
            Why are you bringing gas from the USA? Is it cheaper? Moreover, you come up with all sorts of sanctions.

            Business MSIU.

            What is MSIA?
    2. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) April 9 2021 20: 57
      +1
      Of course, the US will unofficially support the UPA to balance the power.

      While the UPA is supported by you.
  3. Sergey Latyshev (Serge) April 9 2021 11: 38
    +2
    Ah, this is Necropic.
    There are many words that China owes something to the Russian Federation, and not a single word, but what did the Russian Federation do with China's money?

    Capitalism, if Iran, Omerika or Arabs sell cheaper, China buys from them. Why should they pay the diamond salaries of the Gazprom oligarchs?
  4. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
    Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 9 2021 12: 31
    -4
    If the alliance of our countries does not reach a completely new qualitative level in the very near future, it will only be necessary to state that the United States has every chance of gaining the upper hand, once again applying the old world principle to its two main geopolitical opponents: “divide and rule ".

    In Russia, they mistakenly understand China as "Celestial". For the Chinese, the "Celestial Empire" is the whole world. The Chinese emperor (chairman) is the representative of heaven on earth, the whole heavenly world is subject to him. Accordingly, the center of the world is the palace of the Chinese emperor (chairman), on the second step are the highest officials, on the second are lower officials, on the third are ordinary citizens of China, on the fourth are vassal kingdoms with their subjects, on the fifth are barbarians, so wild that they do not recognize the power of the Chinese emperor ( chairman). The task of the Chinese emperor (chairman) is to enlighten these barbarians, so that they recognize the obvious (the power of the emperor (chairman) over the heavenly world) and move from the category of barbarians to the category of vassals. At the last negotiations, Lavrov was offered to enlighten himself and transfer the Russian Federation from the category of barbarians to the category of vassals. Lavrov did not want to be educated.
    But I think China will not abandon attempts to enlighten the authorities of the Russian Federation in this matter. And without outside help, it will be very difficult for Russia to resist this enlightenment.
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) April 9 2021 21: 00
      +1
      The task of the Chinese emperor (chairman) is to enlighten these barbarians, so that they recognize the obvious (the power of the emperor (chairman) over the heavenly world) and move from the category of barbarians to the category of vassals. At the last negotiations, Lavrov was offered to enlighten himself and transfer the Russian Federation from the category of barbarians to the category of vassals. Lavrov did not want to be educated.
      But I think China will not abandon attempts to enlighten the authorities of the Russian Federation in this matter. And without outside help, it will be very difficult for Russia to resist this enlightenment.

      This is what you, as translated by the transatlantic emperor, declare?
      1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
        Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 9 2021 21: 15
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        I wonder what's going on in your head?
        1. 123 Offline 123
          123 (123) April 9 2021 21: 16
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          I wonder what is going on in your head?

          You first figure it out.
          1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
            Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 10 2021 09: 01
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            I don't have agoraphobia. Unlike you. Do you understand what you wrote above?
            1. 123 Offline 123
              123 (123) April 10 2021 14: 53
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              I don't have agoraphobia. Unlike you.

              Do you start analyzing the contents of your own head by attributing phobias to me? Your path to healing will be long.

              Do you understand what you wrote above?

              I understand that. And you understand that you are exclusively concerned about the Chinese emperor, you do not see a threat in the actions of the transatlantic self-proclaimed "emperors".
              1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 11 2021 11: 27
                -2
                Good good. The main thing is not to be nervous. Are you no longer worried about the Agora organization?

                Quote: 123
                And you understand that you are exclusively concerned about the Chinese emperor, you do not see a threat in the actions of the transatlantic self-proclaimed "emperors".

                Firstly, overseas are not "emperor", but interest groups, which in itself is an advantage when decisions depend on a certain consensus, and not on the tyranny of an individual.
                Secondly, as the Chinese curse that you would live in an era of change. The change of the world hegemon is a global change. The latter was accompanied by two world wars and for Russia this change cost the tryndos as dearly.
                Third, Russia is still a European country and the overseas hegemon is much closer to her than the Asian one.
                Fourth, the overseas hegemon does not even talk about territorial claims against the Russian Federation. There are circles in China that consider Siberia to be primordially Chinese lands.
                Fifth, humanity has never lived as well in history as it does now. Yes, there are problems, injustice, inequality, it could be better, but according to most indicators, the lives of people in the world as a whole are improving. And I strongly doubt that this trend will continue under the Chinese Big Brother. The Chinese are mostly nationalists.
                In the sixths above, I have in my own words retold the Confucian view of the structure of the world, which has dominated China for the past two thousand years, and I doubt that now something has changed a lot. Plus, quite aggressive communism. The mixture of traditional Confucianism and European communism does not inspire confidence in me.
                You can list it for a long time, but mostly something like this.
                1. 123 Offline 123
                  123 (123) April 11 2021 11: 49
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                  Good good. The main thing is not to be nervous. Are you no longer worried about the Agora organization?

                  Why should I be nervous? belay It is worth worrying about this, it seems that there is no more immunity for the hired "opposition". And hands will reach the Yeltsin Center and his Agora.

                  Firstly, overseas are not "emperor", but interest groups, which in itself is an advantage when decisions depend on a certain consensus, and not on the tyranny of an individual.

                  The consensus of madmen and senile people is also a group of interests. Why not an emperor? Here the article has just been published. The Germans say the US clings to Russia everywhere. The struggle of democracy against authoritarianism. Since we have a democracy, therefore, there is authoritarianism. What kind of emperor, dictator Bidon is the first.

                  Secondly, as the Chinese curse that you would live in an era of change. The change of the world hegemon is a global change. The latter was accompanied by two world wars and for Russia this change cost the tryndos as dearly.

                  Times are changing, before the future hegemon sat behind a puddle, skimmed the cream, now he will be replaced. Not all cottage cheese is for pussy, it happens with a face on the threshold. Are you more comfortable with having a hegemon? And the fact that he is going to live and prosper at the expense of Russia does not bother you, of course?

                  Third, Russia is still a European country and the overseas hegemon is much closer to her than the Asian one.

                  What do they have to do with Europe? About 70 years ago there were contenders for the hegemon here, real Europeans ... passed, we know. An overseas hegemon is closer to you. Russia does not need hegemons.

                  Fourth, the overseas hegemon does not even talk about territorial claims against the Russian Federation. There are circles in China that consider Siberia to be primordially Chinese lands.

                  Who are you telling your stories to? Who is this stupid lie for? "Common people" with claims to the Arctic without territorial claims? Are there no complaints about Crimea?
                  Chinese "circles" in Taiwan draw maps with Chinese Siberia.

                  Fifth, humanity has never lived as well in history as it does now. Yes, there are problems, injustice, inequality, it could be better, but according to most indicators, the lives of people in the world as a whole are improving. And I strongly doubt that this trend will continue under the Chinese Big Brother. The Chinese are mostly nationalists.

                  How are these indicators improving the life of mankind? Examples will be? Preferably with numbers. Your sermons are not very interesting.
                  Is it from the good life to Texas over the fence that Arabs and Negroes migrate to Europe?
                  Why are you rushing under control again? The slave can't imagine another life? Is freedom for you the choice of the owner?

                  In the sixths above, I have in my own words retold the Confucian view of the structure of the world, which has dominated China for the past two thousand years, and I doubt that now something has changed a lot. Plus, quite aggressive communism. The mixture of traditional Confucianism and European communism does not inspire confidence in me.

                  Similar views on the structure of the world are not unique, overseas are not at all different. What other aggressive communism? belay What is aggression? Did the Chinese attack Canada? Australia bombed? In Belgium, they staged a revolution? Is the UK sanctioned by the Chinese navy to defend the freedom of navigation in the Gulf of Mexico?

                  You can list it for a long time, but mostly something like this.

                  I see you directly deduced the theory with the justification of groveling. Almost a scientific work on the topic - why the American master is good.
                  1. Oleg Rambover Offline Oleg Rambover
                    Oleg Rambover (Oleg Pitersky) April 11 2021 16: 49
                    -4
                    Quote: 123
                    Why should I be nervous? It is worth worrying about this, it seems that there is no more immunity for the hired "opposition". And hands will reach the Yeltsin Center and his Agora.

                    I don't know why you are nervous. Are you talking about the Liberal Democratic Party and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation? Why should they be nervous? Their "opposition" activities are well paid. Here the party of crooks and thieves should be nervous, every tenth governor sat down in them, even a couple of senators sat down for murder.
                    You and I have found out that the Yeltsin Center is the brainchild of the incumbent president and nothing will happen to this center while he is in power. Are you calling for a change in the current government? Oh May year, you are a revolutionary. Where is the FSB looking?

                    Quote: 123
                    The consensus of madmen and senile people is also a group of interests. Why not an emperor? Here the article has just been published. The Germans say the US clings to Russia everywhere. The struggle of democracy against authoritarianism. Since we have a democracy, therefore, there is authoritarianism. What kind of emperor, dictator Bidon is the first.

                    Any consensus is better than a senile emperor. Do you really believe that there is democracy in the Russian Federation? Well, then this is from the same area as agorophobia.

                    Quote: 123
                    Times are changing, before the future hegemon sat behind a puddle, skimmed the cream, now he will be replaced. Not all cottage cheese is for pussy, it happens with a face on the threshold. Are you more comfortable with having a hegemon? And the fact that he is going to live and prosper at the expense of Russia does not bother you, of course?

                    And I mean, too, the process of changing the hegemon is long, Great Britain was removed for half a century, accompanied by all sorts of unpleasant processes, such as wars and economic crises, in short, an era of change. Either the hegemon's muzzle on the threshold, then he responds to others with his muzzle on the same threshold. And who will replace him is not a fact that Russia will like it.
                    Are you satisfied with the sunrise in the east? Or is the moon in the sky? Or that all people are mortal? There have been hegemons since the times of ancient Egypt, or do you think that if China will overwhelm the United States, he will say that like ok, I have been facing the threshold of the previous hegemon for so long and with such expenses, now I refuse the role of the new leader of the world, everyone is equal. So what do you think will happen?
                    Who will live and prosper at the expense of Russia, China? Of course it is embarrassing, especially if you look at what the Chinese are doing in the Far East. The United States is not particularly cashing in on the Russian Federation.

                    Quote: 123
                    What do they have to do with Europe? About 70 years ago there were contenders for the hegemon here, real Europeans ... passed, we know. An overseas hegemon is closer to you. Russia does not need hegemons.

                    Don't you think that Americans are Europeans? I'm afraid to ask you, who do you think they are then?
                    And I mean too, more than 80 years ago, the Austrian corporal decided that the "West" in general and the then hegemon of Britain in particular had finally decayed in its liberal intoxication and the healthy forces of the East in the person of the German people with their traditional values ​​deserve to take the place of the new hegemon and start the most terrible war in history. The USSR in these showdowns was generally on the sidelines, but in the end it suffered the greatest losses and bore the brunt of the war. But this did not make the USSR a new hegemon (although there probably were chances). I don’t want to repeat it.
                    If I choose between the Chinese hegemon and the European (in the broad sense), then the European one is indisputably closer to me. Nobody asks Russia whether it needs a hegemon, it will be in any case and it must be reckoned with.

                    Quote: 123
                    Who are you telling your stories to? Who is this stupid lie for? "Common people" with claims to the Arctic without territorial claims? Are there no complaints about Crimea?
                    Chinese "circles" in Taiwan draw maps with Chinese Siberia.

                    USA wants to get Crimea !!! ?? Are you seriously? What are the claims to the Arctic possessions of the Russian Federation? Just wondering.
                    About the Chinese
                    https://inosmi.ru/inoblog/20200716/247759461.html
                    https://inosmi.ru/politic/20180905/243154870.html
                    https://inosmi.ru/social/20191115/246230265.html
                    there are such sentiments in China.

                    Quote: 123
                    How are these indicators improving the life of mankind? Examples will be? Preferably with numbers. Your sermons are not very interesting.
                    Is it from the good life to Texas over the fence that Arabs and Negroes migrate to Europe?
                    Why are you rushing under control again? The slave can't imagine another life? Is freedom for you the choice of the owner?

                    Do you know such a human development index?
                    http://hdr.undp.org/sites/default/files/hdr2020.pdf#page=364
                    This report shows that this index has grown over 30 years.
                    They climb over the fence not from a good life, but to a better one. Previously, there was simply no such opportunity, to climb over fences, they were poorer.
                    What are you inventing for me again? Where did I call on someone to become under the control? Again p .... If you have not seen anything but your servile life with the master, this does not mean that everyone is the same. Rather, the opposite is true.

                    Quote: 123
                    Similar views on the structure of the world are not unique, overseas are not at all different.

                    Blessed is he who believes. Let it be so for you.

                    Quote: 123
                    What other aggressive communism?

                    Well, in general, communism presupposes the rejection of the state, for this it is necessary that the whole world does it in a single communist impulse, that is, the whole world must be communist.

                    Quote: 123
                    I see you directly deduced the theory with the justification of groveling. Almost a scientific work on the topic - why the American master is good.

                    Well, not everyone, like you, lick the smelly places of the bosses, here is no idea, lick and lick. Judging by the number and volume of your comments, this is your main profession. I understand that all sorts of professions are needed, all sorts of professions are important, I probably even in my heart somewhere admire (somewhere very deeply), this probably requires remarkable willpower to start working lingua on the culus of my beloved boss.
                    1. 123 Offline 123
                      123 (123) April 11 2021 18: 41
                      +1
                      Liberal Democratic Party with the Communist Party? Is this the whole list? In my opinion, you forgot Yavlinsky's rotten apple. It makes no difference to me in which party people receive bitcoins from abroad. Everyone is imprisoned, regardless of party affiliation, for specific crimes.

                      You and I have found out that the Yeltsin Center is the brainchild of the incumbent president and nothing will happen to this center while he is in power. Are you calling for a change in the current government? Oh May year, you are a revolutionary. Where is the FSB looking?

                      This is how you decided. I did not find out anything with you, moreover, it is generally difficult to find out something with you. You don't understand basic things. For example, what does the FSB have to do with it? We are talking about financial violations in the activities of the Yeltsin Center. Are you so stupid that you consider it a government authority? The trial process is really drawn out, which reminds me of the story of the cowards, well, never mind, how long the string doesn’t twist ... and they will get to these.

                      Any consensus is better than a senile emperor. Do you really believe that there is democracy in the Russian Federation? Well, then this is from the same area as agorophobia.

                      Any? Even if the consensus of the mad and the senile? Do you believe that the United States is a democracy? Well, if you only consider it the power of the Democratic Party. To be honest, you already got it with your agorophilia.

                      Don't you think that Americans are Europeans? I'm afraid to ask you, who do you think they are then?

                      And with what fright should I consider them Europeans? They are Americans. On what basis did you rank them as Europeans? laughing

                      And I mean too, more than 80 years ago, the Austrian corporal decided that the "West" in general and the then hegemon of Britain in particular had finally decayed in its liberal intoxication and the healthy forces of the East in the person of the German people with their traditional values ​​deserve to take the place of the new hegemon and start the most terrible war in history. The USSR in these showdowns was generally on the sidelines, but in the end it suffered the greatest losses and bore the brunt of the war. But this did not make the USSR a new hegemon (although there probably were chances). I don’t want to repeat it.

                      Prefer to sit still? Looking to drink Bavarian?

                      You have a slavish, groveling psychology. You do not believe that you can live without a hegemon. The USSR did not make it a hegemon, but the United States became it only after the collapse of the USSR.

                      And I mean, too, the process of changing the hegemon is long, Great Britain was removed for half a century, accompanied by all sorts of unpleasant processes, such as wars and economic crises, in short, an era of change. Either the hegemon's muzzle on the threshold, then he responds to others with his muzzle on the same threshold. And who will replace him is not a fact that Russia will like it.

                      Like it or not like it, the hegemon is blown away for objective reasons. I do not intend to shed tears over this.

                      Are you satisfied with the sunrise in the east? Or is the moon in the sky? Or that all people are mortal?

                      ABOUT!!! I see everything is so neglected, almost at the level of religion.
                      China will not overwhelm anyone. He falls by himself. What will happen after this life will show.

                      Who will live and prosper at the expense of Russia, China? Of course it is embarrassing, especially if you look at what the Chinese are doing in the Far East. The United States is not particularly cashing in on the Russian Federation.

                      Well, of course, not really anymore. Since 1991, they have made a fortune, and not only at the expense of Russia, but of the entire former USSR. What is so terrible that the Chinese are doing in the Far East that it is worse than what the United States did all over the country 20 years ago?

                      USA wants to get Crimea !!! ?? Are you seriously? What are the claims to the Arctic possessions of the Russian Federation? Just wondering.

                      The United States disputes the country's territorial integrity. They insist that Russia's Arctic possessions should be shared. It's enough. Is this news to you? Or don't you think that Crimea is Russian either?

                      About the Chinese

                      And what did you find so terrible there? One edition does not understand why the Russians are against the export of timber, while the second edition sheds a tear over the lost territories? Is that all? Do you know how many publications we have worried about Alaska? No one likes deforestation, no matter what reason they cut down Here is one example
                      http://www.rusbazaar.biz/ru/content/198338.htm
                      And they cut it and, by the way, send to China no less than ours. When you cry over bald patches in the taiga, remember this picture and look at the satellite image of American forests.


                      Tellingly, you do not notice the hostile US policy at the official level, or you think it is normal. At the legislative level, Russia is enshrined as an adversary to the United States, they build bases around our country, support unfriendly regimes and arrange coups along the perimeter of our borders, interfere in our internal affairs. You are just an ordinary pad.

                      Do you know such a human development index?

                      I also know who compiles these indices. Do you know what infrastructure is? Let me tell you how it relates to the human development index? In one very beloved country, drinking water is supplied through lead pipes to 6-10 million homes and 100 schools and kindergartens. Tens of millions of people eat IT, including children. If you don't know how lead acts on the body, I quote Biden:

                      Lead can slow development and cause learning, behavior and hearing problems in children, as well as permanent kidney and brain damage.

                      https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/03/31/fact-sheet-the-american-jobs-plan/

                      Look there, you will learn a lot of interesting things about life in the USA.

                      This report shows that this index has grown over 30 years.
                      They climb over the fence not from a good life, but to a better one. Previously, there was simply no such opportunity, to climb over fences, they were poorer.

                      Has the development index increased? Now Latin Americans began to live so well that they could walk to the United States on foot and jump over the fence? This is how "wise rule of the hegemon" looks like in your opinion?

                      humanity has never lived as well in history as it does now

                      What are you inventing for me again? Where did I call on someone to become under the control? Again p .... If you have not seen anything but your servile life with the master, this does not mean that everyone is the same. Rather, the opposite is true.

                      Am I making up? belay you all drown for the penguins and praise how good life is with them. You are a lackey.

                      Blessed is he who believes. Let it be so for you.

                      Belief in shining dance is about you. I'm used to facts. How does the United States differ from China in this regard for the better?

                      Well, in general, communism presupposes the rejection of the state, for this it is necessary that the whole world does it in a single communist impulse, that is, the whole world must be communist.

                      You don't lecture me on theory. The question was specific. How is the aggressiveness of Chinese communism expressed?

                      Well, not everyone, like you, lick the smelly places of the bosses, here is no idea, lick and lick. Judging by the number and volume of your comments, this is your main profession. I understand that all sorts of professions are needed, all sorts of professions are important, I probably even in my heart somewhere admire (somewhere very deeply), this probably requires remarkable willpower to start working lingua on the culus of my beloved boss.

                      What deep knowledge laughing Does the place smell better? Is that why you are rushing there? What's your idea? Lay down, spread apart, lick to lick. judging by your comments, you have no other profession at all. You can only whine and lick.
  5. Jacques sekavar Offline Jacques sekavar
    Jacques sekavar (Jacques Sekavar) April 9 2021 13: 18
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    Whose support can Russia count on?

    Only on itself and the neutrality of the PRC.

    the visit to the Celestial Empire of the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry Sergei Lavrov, many were quick to call a "breakthrough" or, at least, a "big step forward"

    A breakthrough is understood as a new level of mutual relations, for example, an agreement on joint defense, the creation of a single or sectoral missile defense system, economic integration, the transition to uniform standards, etc. This has not been, is not, and never will be. Therefore, there is no "breakthrough", there is a statement of relations and plans for cooperation. Everything. This is good, but not a breakthrough.

    Beijing, which for a very long time adhered to maximum restraint and moderation in its own foreign policy steps even in the most unpleasant situations, began to act much more actively, assertively, sharper

    The PRC's response is adequate to the threats and blackmail of the United States and its vassals. With the world's largest economy and a consumer market that in total surpasses the Sshasovskiy + Eessovskiy one, the PRC does not need the help of the Russian Federation, but it constantly reiterates the importance of cooperation with the US and the EU.

    Not too much zeal in rapprochement in this direction, shown by Beijing, gives a fairly good reason for criticizing the very idea of ​​Russian-Chinese cooperation.

    The trade turnover with the Russian Federation is about 200 billion, which cannot be compared with the turnover with the USA, EU, ASEAN - hence the attitude. The importance of the Russian Federation for the PRC is not in the economy, science, IT-technologies, defense, but in the field of logistics and raw materials.

    in order for us to finally begin to be taken seriously, it should be manifested much more often and more decisively, and literally for any reason

    This fundamentally contradicts the philosophy of the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Mr. Lavrov, which he voiced how better to spend 100 years pouring from empty to empty than to fight even for 1 year. The West enlightened this and behaves in relation to the Russian Federation accordingly, knowing that an adequate answer will not follow.
    This looks especially contrasted against the background of US relations with Iran, the DPRK, the PRC, which adhere to different views, as comrade Xi Jiping said unequivocally - China does not want war, but it is not afraid of war either. The West enlightened and this, therefore, does not even think, for example, to prohibit athletes from performing under the Chinese flag and anthem.
    1. rjpthju Offline rjpthju
      rjpthju (Lev Atyasov) April 9 2021 17: 28
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      Creation of a unified or sectoral missile defense system

      The creation consists in the fact that our air defense and missile defense, like it or not, will cover the north of China. Because everything that is intended for them will fly through us. They still have to pay us ... But they won't,
    2. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) April 11 2021 12: 13
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      The West enlightened and this, therefore, does not even think, for example, to prohibit athletes from performing under the Chinese flag and anthem.

      Do not hurry. Everything has its time. The petition to cancel the Olympiad has been on the site for a year.
      https://www.change.org/p/international-olympic-committee-revoke-beijing-s-hosting-right-of-2022-winter-olympics-on-human-rights-ground

      Uyghurs against
      https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-15/uyghurs-call-for-2022-beijing-winter-games-to-be-relocated/12561294

      Human rights defenders oppose
      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-olympics-rights/over-160-rights-groups-call-on-ioc-chief-to-revoke-2022-beijing-winter-games-idUSKBN2600N8

      Olympic Committee doubts
      https://www.sports.ru/biathlon/1087005811.html

      And this is still 2020, or it will still be. Soon the Martians and the penguins will come out with protests. Maybe we'll see the boycott.

      And about the air defense missile defense ... Russia helps China to build this very system. Signing a treaty with China automatically repels India and beyond. Economic integration with China is the absorption of the Russian economy. Do we need it? In my opinion, trade is enough. What else is the transition to uniform standards? To alter the track of the railway tracks? Or go to the Chinese calendar? International standards are valid anyway. It's not clear what this is about request
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  7. Igor Pavlovich (Igor Pavlovich) April 9 2021 13: 49
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    Just now I read in the specialized press how much the March visit to China of the chief specialist Lavrov cost the country

    The NWF's yuan investments, we recall, immediately turned into losses: at the end of March, the Chinese currency fell by 1,7% (from 6,46 to 6,57 yuan per dollar), which was the largest drop since August 2019.
    Having invested $ 17 billion in yuan, the Ministry of Finance lost about $ 300 million on exchange rate differences. The total volume of investments in the yuan (including reserves of the Central Bank) reaches 87 billion dollars, and exchange rate losses in March - 1,3 billion.

    ... am
    https://www.finanz.ru/novosti/valyuty/minfin-nachnet-ezhednevno-skupat-kitayskie-yuani-1030274266
    Even if he had better tackled his boots, he brought less loss ...
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) April 9 2021 21: 08
      +1
      Just now I read in the specialized press how much the March visit to China of the chief specialist Lavrov cost the country

      These are just currency fluctuations, a month ago it was the same. Choose what you need. we read here, we don't read here, we wrap the fish here. These are from the same "specialized press":

      The Central Bank of Russia managed to win back multi-billion dollar losses after the yuan strengthened sharply in the second half of last year - from 7,2 to 6,4 yuan per dollar.

      https://www.finanz.ru/novosti/valyuty/minfin-obnaruzhil-milliardnye-ubytki-v-fnb-posle-investiciy-v-yuani-1030156731

      What currency should I invest in? The dollar? sad
      Do you know how to tach boots yourself, or just give advice?
      1. Igor Pavlovich (Igor Pavlovich) April 13 2021 09: 08
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        You seem to be neither reading nor counting - if Lavrov hadn't got in with his yuan investments, there would have been no irrecoverable losses in March of 1,3 billion. All the rest of the acting out is convulsive throwing and attempts to pull the situation out of the financial swamps committed by completely different literate people from the Central Bank of the Russian Federation ...
  8. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker April 9 2021 14: 37
    -1
    The trouble for Russia and Putin is that the United States, China, the EU, Africa, they all believe that Russia owes them. But they don't owe Russia anything. And Putin and Lavrov are constantly trying to negotiate and find understanding with everyone. And they only give us ultimatums!
  9. rjpthju Offline rjpthju
    rjpthju (Lev Atyasov) April 9 2021 17: 21
    +3
    Naive people. China will never act against its own advantage. Do we still have dreamers. He acts the way he needs to. And he wanted to spit on friendly and neighborly relations. Look at what he is doing with neighboring countries and what we are doing. They gave Tajikistan a loan, but that has no money. We took a debt by the territory. What are we doing? Writing off debts. A water pipeline with a diameter of 1400 is being pulled to Lake Baikal ... Ours are still neither sleepy nor in spirit (at least officially), but they have made a project and are pulling a water pipeline for Beijing to the border with Russia. What do you think will happen when they come to the border? And they are not used to investing money just like that.
    1. 123 Offline 123
      123 (123) April 9 2021 21: 16
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      Writing off debts. A water pipeline with a diameter of 1400 is pulled to Baikal ...

      Are you exaggerating? What debts are we writing off to the Chinese?
      A straight line that connects two points on a circle and passes through the center. 1400 is this in what units?
      Is the information about the water supply reliable? If that the construction by the Chinese of a plant for the production of water on Lake Baikal was banned by the court.
      https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4391900

      Maybe it's stuffing? Now they scare you with a pipe, will the Chinese drink the whole lake again?
      1. rjpthju Offline rjpthju
        rjpthju (Lev Atyasov) April 11 2021 12: 05
        -1
        This is how fakes are formed. You see my text, and the quote you provided. This is how Platoshkin is being dragged for extremism. I wrote not about China's debt to us (it actually looks ridiculous now), but how China treats debt repayment, and how we are. 1400 is the pipe diameter in mm. (SI system of units). And the court forbade the "Chinese" to build in the nature protection zone. About the water supply ... I'm not standing at the primary sources. It was published on the Internet. We'll live a little while, we'll see ... We are now all slaves to the Internet.
        1. 123 Offline 123
          123 (123) April 11 2021 12: 23
          +1
          I wrote not about China's debt to us (it actually looks ridiculous now), but how China treats debt repayment, and how we are.

          And how are the Chinese different? Do debtors tear out gold crowns and burn their heels with a red-hot poker? Everything is the same as everyone else. Here's something fresh.

          China wrote off nearly $ 8 billion in debt to poor countries

          https://yandex.com/news/story/Kitaj_spisal_bednym_stranam_dolgi_pochti_na$8_mlrd--7f8c02156da42b0eefbb811713cdbbcd

          Much earlier. If you look for sure, there will be more examples.

          China wrote off debts to 49 countries

          https://regnum.ru/news/economy/955463.html

          About the water supply ... I'm not standing at the primary sources. It was published on the Internet. We are all slaves to the Internet now.

          It seems to me you don't have to be slaves, even of the Internet. I mean that I have not seen any information about the pipe. As for me, it looks like a stuffing. That's why he asked where the legs grow from. The Internet is a big dump, I would like to be able to check the information.
  10. Astronaut Offline Astronaut
    Astronaut (San Sanych) April 9 2021 17: 26
    -1
    It has long been clear that Russia can only rely on its own army and navy, Russia has NO other friends!
    1. rjpthju Offline rjpthju
      rjpthju (Lev Atyasov) April 11 2021 12: 09
      0
      You just don’t tell Putin’s friends. They won't even understand what you mean ...
  11. 123 Offline 123
    123 (123) April 9 2021 20: 55
    +4
    1) Why do you need a full-fledged military-political alliance? Do we need it? Can you imagine the consequences? If signed, India will automatically start drifting towards the United States. Also, military-technical cooperation will come to naught, and just economic projects. but our heart will be warmed by an official piece of paper, with a seal sad
    2) By the Power of Siberia, we are building on our territory, China on ours. What other participation is needed? What money would they invest in construction? Then they will demand a price reduction, the costs must be recouped. The same goes for the railroad. They will use it and pay for transit. Do you offer to take them for a share?
    3) Why should we simultaneously bring down stock quotes? Just out of harm? What would you know on whom the loaf is crumbled?
    4) An agreement has been signed with Iran, this is 16 billion investments per year, for which it will pay with oil and gas and at a reduced price. Chinese investment means that Iran will have factories, ports, pipelines ... Chinese ... and the Chinese will work for them.
    5) The railroad is not only transit. China needs coal. With Australia's "divorce and maiden name", Indonesia's production is declining. In the future, these are supplies for 10-15 billion a year. In my opinion, this is a profitable event. What else should they help? If we are going to sell, creating the infrastructure is our problem.
    The Americans will not be able to divide and rule, at least not with these leaders of states.