Dangerous illusions: Ukraine's "indestructible defense" will collapse in three days

Continuing to fan the war hysteria, the Ukrainian authorities seem to be trapped in a delusion that could prove fatal. And, alas, not only for herself, but also for millions of people drawn into a militaristic adventure without the slightest chance of success.

One gets the impression that Vladimir Zelensky, who has recently pushed a lot of paranoia, Vladimir Zelensky really believes in what is written on its pages - first of all, in the readiness and ability of all residents of the “nezalezhnoy” without exception to go into the “last and decisive” battle , carrying out orders from Washington, duplicated by him. Let's try to figure out how things really are.

Smooth was on paper

Recently, a real fetish for the "great strategists" from Kiev has become the so-called "territorial defense", with the help of which they firmly intend to turn a possible military clash in the East of the country into the largest-scale and bloody conflict possible. Everything is very simple - by striking a blow in Donbass, the Armed Forces expect to provoke the defenders of the Republics to retaliatory actions. This, in turn, will become a pretext for an attempt at a "full-scale" offensive against Donetsk and Lugansk, which will force Russia to intervene - either covertly or completely openly.

At the same time, a very characteristic feature of the current exacerbation is the moment that in the DPR-LPR, and also, what is much more important, in Moscow they do not just make it clear, but already openly warn: the territory of Donbass alone is a zone of hostilities, if they start and reaching a certain level, most likely, will not be limited. It is not without reason that combat readiness is being checked today not only in units and formations of the domestic Armed Forces deployed in the same Rostov region and adjacent regions, but also in the districts that are stationed in the Western Military District. At the same time, it should be understood that a well-organized march of motorized columns to Kiev from, say, the Chernihiv region, is basically unrealistic to block and stop. Is that by creating a deeply echeloned engineering defense system, which the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not have even close in this direction ...

Kiev cannot but understand that it does not have the forces and means to resist the regular units of the Russian army. All more or less combat-ready units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine located in the Donbass will be shackled by defensive battles, and, most likely, surrounded and blocked with subsequent surrender or destruction.

This is where the "innumerable ratios" attributed today to the Ukrainian "territorial defense" should come into play. It is they who, according to the idea of ​​those who today have taken a course towards the utmost aggravation of the situation, will have to "hold out until NATO approaches." Or, at least, until the moment when "the world community will force Moscow to stop the offensive," or even admit its own defeat. Moreover, the more "territorialists" die, the better. This will become an excellent informational way for further promotion of the image of "ruthless Russian aggressors" and the basis for the subsequent advancement of a "non-profit" new heap of claims against our country - both material and others.

At first glance, everything is cleverly invented and arranged smoothly. This is always the case - on paper, in plans and strategies, in the preparation of which one's own capabilities are greatly exaggerated, and the enemy is presented as a complete idiot and complete clumsy. It is in the mobilization plans of the "nezalezhnoy" that phantasmagoric figures appear, according to which, in the blink of an eye, almost a hundred thousand reservists from the "territorial defense" battalions should join the ranks of its defenders. The question is that “listed” in this phrase is the key word. In fact, these reserves are as “real” as Zelenskiy’s insane statements that “every one of its inhabitants, men and women, will fight for Ukraine” and his desire to bring the country to the extreme limit of militarization. This is all virtuality, gentlemen - virtual forces for virtual war. In order to understand the true situation, it is necessary to understand what the Ukrainian "territorial defense" really is. And, first of all, remember who, how and why it was created.

Wild "army"

The birth of companies and battalions of "territorial defense" was, in spite of the official lies of Kiev, not "a response to aggression and manifestations of separatism in the East", but a desperate attempt to somehow "utilize" the violent, uncontrollable and deranged "Maidan freemen" roaming in Ukraine after the coup d'état there in the spring of 2014. Not a single shot has yet been fired in the Donbass - and they have already been hastily put together, driving the biomass, eager to continue the "revolution", which did not want to return to normal life at all. At the same time, the most crazy and blood-thirsty individuals rushed to the "good robots" like "Azov", "Aydar", "Donbass" and other gangs of thugs, do not be remembered by nightfall. "Terbats", as they began to be called over time, were not initially considered as a force suitable for combat use in the ATO. According to the idea of ​​the "post-Maidan" authorities, their tasks were much more modest - to replace more or less combat-ready military units in the rear areas that were hastily redeployed to the East. Well, if Moscow really decided to establish real order on the territory of the enraged "neighbor" (which was expected in Kiev in all seriousness, unfortunately - in vain), it was the "Terbats" who were intended to become the core of the future "Partisan movement" - exactly as it is declared now.

As usual, life made rather harsh corrections to the paper plans - it didn't work out to take the Donbass off the raid, and "cannon fodder" for the fratricidal war was already in short supply. It was then, at the end of 2014 - beginning of 2015, this wild "army" began to be sent into the combat zone. However, the ATO command did not take long to make sure that the idea was a failure ...

The talk of the town, not least thanks to the talkativeness of the then chief military prosecutor Anatoly Matios, was by no means the heroic story of the “territorial battalion“ Prykarpattya ”, cobbled together from the inhabitants of Ivano-Frankivsk region. It would seem that they are the most fierce Galicians. Selected Bandera! Yes, they had to break off the leashes in order to "put Muscovites on knives" or, at worst, lie down with their bones so as not to give the "occupants" even a meter of land "nenki". Where there ... The warriors from the "Carpathian" were exactly the same as their ancestors were, who fled in droves to enroll in the SS "Galicia" division. From near Ilovaisk, they scrambled so that with very great difficulty they managed to stop them already through several regions - in the vicinity of Kirovograd. At the same time, according to the memoirs of Matios, the Makhnovists, in comparison with this ragged and drunken gang, would have looked like cavalry guards at the parade. By the way, then the "Terbatovtsy" almost "treated" him with a grenade launcher ...

“Prykarpattya” was dispersed in disgrace, accusing its command and personnel of the Ilovaisk disgrace. Is it necessary to clarify that at Debaltseve, other units of the "territorial defense" showed themselves exactly the same "valiantly", after which a categorical decision was made not to admit them to the "ATO zone" even at a cannon shot. Let the houses "fight"! Since then, the system of "territorial defense", in theory, should have turned into a mechanism for training and retraining reservists. At the same time, the main emphasis is placed on the retraining of reserve officers - both in the multitude of Ukrainian universities "stamped" by the military departments and who do not know how to do anything at all, and those who served in those military specialties that are simply not in demand in the Armed Forces of Ukraine today due to the banal lack of appropriate types of weapons and equipment... In reality, however, everything is completely different.

Despite the "formidable" laws and regulations - about "mobilization within 90 hours", "mandatory arrival for military training" and the like, XNUMX% of reservists ignore such things in the most decisive way. According to the revelations of the officers of the "Terbats" themselves, all this "army" exists exclusively in reports, reports, inquiries and other reports regularly sent to Kiev "from the localities" by military enlistment offices, now renamed "nezalezhnoy" into "territorial centers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine". At the same time, even that scanty number of "bayonets" that from time to time manage to scrape together to conduct "military gatherings" is engaged in sheer nonsense. There are no cartridges, no grenades for combat training, no fuel to refuel equipment, nor, by and large, this equipment itself. It is possible that they will scrape together at least something to carry out the demonstratively announced by Kiev gatherings of "territorial defense units of the Southern region", which are, in fact, only a link in a chain of provocations near the borders of Russian Crimea. Show-off is exactly what the Ukrainian warriors are pretty adept at ... However, making a real bet on the partisan-Makhnovist rear forces in the event of the deployment of serious hostilities with the regular army is pure suicide.

Now it is far from 2014 or 2015. The most suitable personnel for the role of fighters of the Ukrainian "Volkssturm" are former soldiers of the "dobrobats", other "veterans of the ATO" and the like, for the most part, either long ago found their inglorious end in Donbass, or completely drank themselves, "caught" an overdose, or disappeared in internecine " showdowns ". Those of them who survived, as well as other “patriotic activists” have settled down quite well in a peaceful life in the role of raiders, “protectors”, fighters for “mov” or rally bawlers. They do not rush into battle at all. And besides, all desperate attempts of Kiev to inflate militaristic psychosis to the skies are broken by the numbers in communal "bills", price tags in stores, the coronavirus horror happening in the country ... There will not be a massive flow of real volunteers, and the hastily caught reservists, most likely , scatter at the first opportunity. The system of "territorial defense", which Zelensky for some reason considers "indestructible" and "powerful", will collapse like a rotten tyn in one day. Three, maximum. And it would be better for the Ukrainian authorities not to even try to bring matters to the point of “putting it into battle” ...
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  1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
    Bulanov (Vladimir) April 8 2021 10: 47
    "Let's turn the imperialist war into a civil war." What Lenin was really talking about. Any war, with rare exceptions, starts with funds and is waged in the interests of big business. And in most cases, big business profits from this war, but the losers are always simple laborers - workers, peasants. And therefore, the task of the parties defending the interests of the common working people is to prevent the outbreak of this very war.

    If we give the people weapons, then where are the guarantees that these weapons will not be turned against the authorities themselves? The civil war of 1918-1920 in Ukraine did not teach her power anything. - Old Man Makhno looks out the window ...
    1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
      Just a cat (Bayun) April 8 2021 10: 55
      Lenin knew this well, starting a revolution and then a civil one with the money of this very capital. and the first MOV textbooks were purchased in Austria.
      1. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
        Bulanov (Vladimir) April 8 2021 11: 06
        The revolution was started not by Lenin, but by the generals headed by Alekseev, the organizer of the White movement, the one who forced Nicholas II to abdicate and thereby began the February Revolution.
        1. Just a cat Offline Just a cat
          Just a cat (Bayun) April 8 2021 14: 37
          Nevertheless, Rasputin was killed, the royal family was shot, there is no gold reserve. and in the mausoleum, not Alekseev, but Lenin.
          1. papas-57 Offline papas-57
            papas-57 (PAPAS-57) April 9 2021 19: 48
            Nobody shot the royal family. In Yekaterinburg, the family of a citizen of the Russian Empire Nikolai Alexandrovich Romanov was shot.
          2. Bulanov Offline Bulanov
            Bulanov (Vladimir) April 12 2021 11: 33
            So in France, at first the Bastille was demolished, then Louis 16 was killed, then Danton, Robespierre and others, and only then Napoleon Bonaparte came.
  2. Alexander Betonkin April 8 2021 11: 02
    Of course, you can talk about the weapons and moral qualities of "ATO warriors" as much as you like, but the shelling does not stop and people are dying. And if real military clashes begin, what the results will be is not possible to foresee.

  3. steelmaker Offline steelmaker
    steelmaker April 8 2021 15: 12
    By personal example, this is how the education of officers and commanders of all ranks was put in the Soviet Army. Even the generals were always physically prepared. 12 pull-ups and 6 times a coup-lift were a must for everyone. Judging by the video, hazing with criminality is in effect in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Therefore, this is not an army, this is a rabble that is capable of fighting only with unarmed people. I believe that as soon as Russia strikes, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will crumble. And they should be beating yesterday, before the children were killed.
  4. Oder Offline Oder
    Oder (Wojciech) April 8 2021 15: 37
    UPAina does not want to break away from its Nazi past during World War II. Let me tell you a few figures how serious this problem is. At that time, more than 300 thousand Ukrainians served in German units. More than 15 Ukrainians graduated from the SS school in Travniki near Lublin. In the German death camps, such as Treblinka, Belzec, Sobibor and some other Ukrainian guards, there were three times more than the German. The UPA was a Nazi organization. Due to the lack of other heroes, the Ukrainians put these bandits on pedestals. As long as this is so, the Polish-Ukrainian agreement is impossible !!!
    1. Kofesan Offline Kofesan
      Kofesan (Valery) April 8 2021 19: 04
      What (what) Polish-Ukrainian "agreement" or maybe even "agreements" can we talk about?
      Until now, Poland has done everything and even more on the side of the Outskirts, if it went against Russia. Actually, the modern regime in Ukraine is the brainchild of Poland as well. And with her, especially anti-Russian, ambitions, she did not go far from the UPA and other Banderva, along the way prying przyjaciel .. ("friend", translated from Polish) "Great power" and its local "Hitlerism" coexist in Poland.
      The most real.

      So what kind of "agreements" do not shine for Ukraine, which can still make it happy? Where does Poland get the idea that it still has something to lure the lost territory to itself? Besides Russophobia?
      Truly, there is no limit to the swagger of the panov. Although this is not news. Without feathers stuck in the ass, like those of peacocks, Poland probably cannot imagine itself, does not act and does not even fight ...

      1. Oder Offline Oder
        Oder (Wojciech) April 9 2021 10: 51
        So quickly:

        - outlet in the field of peaceful, stable and partnership relations between member countries,
        - full membership in Europol,
        - opening of borders (travel, transportation costs),
        increase in the export of agri-food products,
        - competitive economy - new technologies and modernization of economic management and management methods
        - free movement of goods and capital
        - improving the quality of education (Erasmus)
        - increasing consumer protection
        - visa-free entry through the territory of the Community
        - recognition of school certificates and diplomas
        - development of culture through the unification of states
        - the possibility of obtaining funds for research
        - access to healthcare in the EU
        - creating double civic awareness,
        1. Kofesan Offline Kofesan
          Kofesan (Valery) April 9 2021 17: 18
          So, selectively -

          visa-free entry through the territory of the Community

          Ukraine already has. Repeatedly, the same product twice, but for an additional charge? I recognize the Poles! The beasts in the EU forest are equal, but Poland is the most equal?

          opening of borders (travel, transportation costs), increasing exports of agri-food products, as well as free movement of goods and capital

          do not make me laugh. All this has already been implemented. But only on one side. For Western companies. For example, the cutting down of Ukrainian forests. Or do you believe that the Ukrainian planes will be bought by Poland and the EU?

          access to healthcare in the EU

          you probably mean the supplies of AstraZenek., Well, those parties that have just been abandoned in France, for example. Illiquid in exchange for tolerance? Or hospitalization of OUN-UP fighters in the event of a serious conflict with Russia?

          And you were joking. Certainly. By portraying a serious face. This is clear to me. And I joked back. But, nevertheless, it seems to me, if we discard the holy faith of the Poles in their genius ...
          YOU have nothing to offer them except colonization.
  5. Awaz Offline Awaz
    Awaz (Walery) April 8 2021 21: 26
    Too you are getting too patriotic. In reality, everything will happen as it was in 14-15 years, taking into account that the reckless volunteers from Russia will be minuscule and the local Donetsk fighters are not only degraded, but mostly serve in the Armed Forces only because of the salary (in the majority) and therefore the Armed Forces of Ukraine will not really receive fierce resistance. RF involvement will manifest itself when the situation starts to spiral out of control. Until then, all help will be veiled and conditional as much as possible. And even if the authorities of the Russian Federation decide to directly and explicitly participate in the conflict, no one will attack either in the direction of Kharkov or from the Crimea.
    That is, if the United States were the guarantor of a "peaceful settlement" in a similar situation, they would not have rushed to say directly that if their charges were attacked, they would receive a good response from the entire might of the US Armed Forces.
    In our case, this spitting will continue, which will regurgitate hundreds and maybe thousands of victims, including civilians, without any punishment for the perpetrators ...
    1. Alex Orlov Offline Alex Orlov
      Alex Orlov (Alex) April 8 2021 21: 45
      I don't think so, but I won't argue. Time will tell who is right and who is wrong.
    2. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
      Ulysses (Alexey) April 8 2021 22: 29
      That is, if the United States were the guarantor of a "peaceful settlement" in a similar situation, they would not have rushed to say directly that if their charges were attacked, they would receive a good response from the entire might of the US Armed Forces.

      If yes if only.
      The Americans ticked more than once, leaving their charges to their fate.
      From the latter, their hasty flight from the north of Syria before Turkey's attack on the US-sponsored Kurds.

      There, however, the Turks did not grow together too much.
      The Syrians with ours turned out to be faster in many places. smile

  6. Marciz Offline Marciz
    Marciz (Stas) April 9 2021 03: 09
    We bet you won't reach Kiev in a week !? Get stuck, each column will be blocked by one "Javelin" and then you will understand how much time you have missed but it will be too late !!!!
    1. Anna Tim Offline Anna Tim
      Anna Tim (Anna) April 9 2021 21: 59
      On the Javelins and other equipment of the Ukrainian owners. Russia has hypersonic missiles. The US has long wanted to see how it works.
    2. Mastixin Offline Mastixin
      Mastixin (Ruslan) April 15 2021 09: 16
      I do not think that Russia will climb tanks to Ukraine. They will walk through the necessary points with "Calibers" from the Black Sea Fleet and then the militias will do everything.
  7. starina-hengs Offline starina-hengs
    starina-hengs (Alexander Boldok) April 9 2021 07: 02
    Everyone has a point of view on a given day. STAS writes that tanks will be stopped by the Jewelins. But he thinks so and let him think. In the distant 14 we also wrote and expressed the point of view, I was mistaken when I wrote that the Red Army would reach Transnistria and I would drink beer in Odessa, it was a mistake. There is still time for Ukrainian soldiers to return to their families and stay alive. Brothers, go home to wives and mothers and children.
  8. shinobi Offline shinobi
    shinobi (Yuri) April 9 2021 07: 50
    An old Soviet anecdote of the perestroika era: We will declare war on Japan and surrender in a day. So, with bad nenko we are also being pushed towards this option. The Kakly start a war, Russia kicks them in the mouth, they surrender. And this additional burden falls on the neck of the Russian economy. Russia cannot withstand the loads and begins to pour into small territorial formations. This is how I see it.
  9. Design Ovragov Offline Design Ovragov
    Design Ovragov April 9 2021 09: 57
    Ukraine is confident (and has been convinced more than once) of Russia's cowardice. Therefore, it becomes impudent.
    1. Ulysses Offline Ulysses
      Ulysses (Alexey) April 9 2021 21: 51
      Ukraine is confident (and was convinced more than once) in the cowardice of Russia. Therefore, it becomes impudent.

      I don't quite understand what kind of Ukraine you are talking about?

      About the Zaporozhye freemen, destroyed by Catherine with the subsequent resettlement of the loyal to the Kuban?

      About Mazepa?

      The Cossack leader learned that Russia was negotiating with the Ottoman Empire to extradite the traitor. Exhausted and frightened Mazepa fell into unconsciousness, and when the Swedish king came to say goodbye to him, the former hetman did not recognize him either. He died without regaining consciousness.

      Maybe about Ukraine Skoropadsky, Petliura ??
      It all ended sadly. feel

      The penultimate "Ukraine" of Bandera and Shukhevych hid in caches after the war until they were finished.

      The current reincarnation of the "square" is helpless in making any of its own state decisions, because it does not have its own strength and will.

      Completely dependent on external circumstances beyond her control.
  10. Anna Tim Offline Anna Tim
    Anna Tim (Anna) April 9 2021 21: 54
    It has long been necessary to hold a referendum in the rebellious republics and annex them to Russia along with Crimea. Why do people suffer there? Then to take on Kharkov and Odessa. Russian liberators have been waiting there for a long time. All the same, Russia will never be good to the West.
  11. Alexey Rogomanov (Alexey Rogomanov) April 11 2021 05: 28
    The main trash of Ukrainians is 15 nuclear units. Chernobyl will rest at our side. Something about this propaganda is silent.
    1. Marciz Offline Marciz
      Marciz (Stas) April 15 2021 07: 40
      Goodbye south of Russia (((buy casings to the Arctic!
  12. Emelianenko Alexander (Emelianenko Alexander) April 13 2021 21: 28
    Guys, don't run ahead of the locomotive, it will crush you. It is impossible to transfer the results of 2008 in the pacification of Georgia to the current situation in Ukraine. As a result of the Second World War, it was found that the national units are not able to ensure normal combat stability. Only the presence of 70% of ethnic Russians in the units ensures the minimum combat stability of the troops. Georgians before 90 - this was a service platoon in the USSR. And you want the Americans to be able to make something combat-ready out of them? Yes, this is not possible in principle. In a clash with the Armed Forces of Ukraine, we will have to deal not only with Ukrainians (I do not consider them a warrior, remember the Second World War), but also with smart Russian men. And how they will behave is impossible to predict. It is better to solve problems with them amicably. Well, there for three. Or something else.
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  14. The Ukrainians cannot defeat Russia without NATO's direct military intervention!
    1. Metapontum Offline Metapontum
      Metapontum (Alexander) April 21 2021 05: 51
      Will NATO be able to win with direct intervention or what?
      Three ha ha! The navel will be untied. And in the event of a real threat of victory over Russia, the Vanguards with the Daggers and other clubs will fly at sunset, which will make natural coal out of tan and its fosterlings ...
  15. Metapontum Offline Metapontum
    Metapontum (Alexander) April 21 2021 05: 43
    All these predictions are not worth the hatched egg ...
    In how many days Vukraina will collapse and no one knows whether it will collapse at all.
    Hitler promised to end the Soviet Union in 4 months. In Syria, they expected to get rid of ISIS and other militants in a couple of months. Nothing happened - the Basurmans are still attacking Khmeimim. In 2014, the Ukrainians wanted to clean up Donbass in a month, but received three grandiose cauldrons, where the Donbass militias ground them like in a meat grinder.
    In short, you don't need to make silly predictions. How long it takes to pacify the Ukrainians, only real actions will show.
  16. Vera Fedorova Offline Vera Fedorova
    Vera Fedorova (Vera Fedorova) April 30 2021 17: 11
    Terrible things are happening ... And at the same time, Russian fish is sold to everyone in Ukraine! As they say, war is war, and lunch is on schedule: D